View Full Version : Have you ever eat KFC chicken ? Look at this...
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 08:48 PM
Have you ever eat KFC chicken ? I hope you will never again, after seeing this.
www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com (http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com)
Look at the videos... That's discusting. They're so stupid to do that.
Thread closed at the thread starters request.
TealArms
31-10-2005, 08:49 PM
and ppl wonder why i am vegi
yeah i've seen that before
good thing im vegeterian :)
Victimized
31-10-2005, 08:50 PM
I only ever go to bakeries now whenever im out in town.
TealArms
31-10-2005, 08:51 PM
Subway is the best
I've never liked KFC.
Or Chicken for that matter..
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 08:52 PM
and ppl wonder why i am vegi
:o !! You're vegetarian ?! Me too ! :D
Biseinen
31-10-2005, 08:52 PM
I just hate KFC anyway.
Frank459
31-10-2005, 08:53 PM
:'( i dont wanna watch coz it will put me off maccy d's and popcorn chicken from kfc :'(
TealArms
31-10-2005, 08:53 PM
:o !! You're vegetarian ?! Me too ! :D
kool whats you fav vegi meal?
Victimized
31-10-2005, 08:53 PM
:'( i dont wanna watch coz it will put me off maccy d's and popcorn chicken from kfc :'(
What your eating isnt chicken.
:o !! You're vegetarian ?! Me too ! :D
dont forget about me ^_^ xD i am too
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 08:54 PM
kool whats you fav vegi meal?
Well, I'm living in Canada, I don't think we have the same stuff :p
Mohawk Man
31-10-2005, 08:54 PM
never been to KFC but i still eat there if need to or feel like it
TealArms
31-10-2005, 08:55 PM
What your eating isnt chicken.
It has problem never seen chicken in its life lol
no kaye we won't whats ur fav meal kaye?
i like pancakes rolled up with quorn minces source over the top
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Did anybody actually watched the videos ?
Well, I'm living in Canada, I don't think we have the same stuff :p
TealArms
31-10-2005, 08:59 PM
lol we probly will have the same stuff u do have quorn don't u?
Did anybody actually watched the videos ?
ye i did but i seen worse, i know that the black bits u see on a chickens legs are burns from its waste and the works have mini graters to scrape it off
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:01 PM
oh my god :'( I am actually crying over it :'(
its making me really depressed.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:04 PM
Well, I got :
"Veggie Bologna Slices" from Yves Cuisine
and
"Veggie Dogs" from Yves cuisine
Edit : Fixations, same here. I couldn't even eat my dinner...
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:05 PM
Big wow some of its probly fake , its going to happen anyway , of corse i eat KFC why not i bet everyone on the forum has tried it and i bet half the people who say there vegi's aint :rolleyes:
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:05 PM
Wow, who the hell answered "Yes, I don't care about what they do to those poor animals." to the poll ?
Edit : eamonns, I am really vegetarian.
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:05 PM
I've always loved kfc, but now Im probably gonna quit that meat for good, fish is still good though :p
TealArms
31-10-2005, 09:09 PM
wow people are being like really weird when i made the thread, about ur parents jobs i got told i was lieing now i am being told i am not vegie, when most of the people on this forum dont know me, wow i really might leave now
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:10 PM
wow people are being like really weird when i made the thread, about ur parents jobs i got told i was lieing now i am being told i am not vegie, when most of the people on this forum dont know me, wow i really might leave now
I think you shoud remove "People who rock : eamonns" of your signature, lol :p
Big wow some of its probly fake , its going to happen anyway , of corse i eat KFC why not i bet everyone on the forum has tried it and i bet half the people who say there vegi's aint :rolleyes:
i am vegeterian "/
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:11 PM
Did i say your pacificly were'nt a vegi :rolleyes:
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:11 PM
Did i say your pacificly were'nt a vegi :rolleyes:
What do you mean ?
Did i say your pacificly were'nt a vegi :rolleyes:
who me or tealarms..
and its specificly :P pacific is a ocean lol
TealArms
31-10-2005, 09:12 PM
Did i say your pacificly were'nt a vegi :rolleyes:
Oh i know, but like u can get acussed of anything on this forum now
Vitality
31-10-2005, 09:13 PM
I like KFC and that video isnt going to put me of it so ...
even if i saw it with my own eyes
I like KFC and that video isnt going to put me of it so ...
even if i saw it with my own eyes
thats terrible.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:14 PM
thats terrible.
I totally agree :'(
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:15 PM
I dont see how thats terrible its going to happen anyway plus its probly fake =l
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:16 PM
I like KFC and that video isnt going to put me of it so ...
even if i saw it with my own eyes
have you watched it? if you haven't watch it now I used to LOVE kfc but that has put me off for life, I used to have like kfc 4 times a week...
now I dont eat it atall, watch it now...
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:17 PM
I dont see how thats terrible its going to happen anyway plus its probly fake =l
Watch the videos, they AREN'T fake AT ALL.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:19 PM
I love KFC, and like Eamons said, I bet everyone has tried it and likes it. Yummy KFC :p
Mostly every fast food resturant has ********* foods, who cares? The hippies? everyone eats it. We're the worlds most advanced predators, we kill to eat, thats what any predator will do...
Concentric - Super Mod
Don't avoid the filter please.
Vitality
31-10-2005, 09:20 PM
Well so what if they do that ... they make nice food :D
GoldenBiscuit
31-10-2005, 09:20 PM
I had KFC on Saterday night, I got a family bucket for my self. -.-
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Like omgs i cant eat chicken again arghh w/e its life live with it, im not going to become some hippy vegitarian just because that tart on the video says its true =l
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:21 PM
I love KFC, and like Eamons said, I bet everyone has tried it and likes it. Yummy KFC :p
Mostly every fast food resturant has cra'ppy foods, who cares? The hippies? everyone eats it. We're the worlds most advanced predators, we kill to eat, thats what any predator will do...
When people says things like that, that reminds me how sick and sad the world is.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:22 PM
When people says things like that, that reminds me how sick and sad the world is.
Yea but we aint killing them were just eating them , you would'nt be alive today if it did'nt happen so go die if its so terrible
Vitality
31-10-2005, 09:23 PM
Yea but we aint killing them were just eating them , you would'nt be alive today if it did'nt happen so go die if its so terrible
That is totally correct
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:23 PM
I love KFC, and like Eamons said, I bet everyone has tried it and likes it. Yummy KFC :p
Mostly every fast food resturant has cra'ppy foods, who cares? The hippies? everyone eats it. We're the worlds most advanced predators, we kill to eat, thats what any predator will do...
I wouldn't mind eating kfc, if they killed the chickens humainly, not brutally slaughtered slitted throats thrown into cages...
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:23 PM
Yea but we aint killing them were just eating them , you would'nt be alive today if it did'nt happen so go die if its so terrible
Now we're able to live without killing animals. I never ate meat (I swear to god, my parents were vegetarian when I was born), and I'm still alive. So why does people still want to eat meat ?
Steph
31-10-2005, 09:25 PM
OK so it is a bit cruel, specially the catching when they were throwing themm but at the end of the day it won't stop me eating chicken or KFC. Like say if I was all like "I'm not eating chicken now because of that video" it wouldn't matter cause they would still be killing chickens.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:26 PM
Because its healthy for you , go get anemic because you have no iron in you because you dont eat no meat be weak die young you obviously want to :)
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:26 PM
OK so it is a bit cruel, specially the catching when they were throwing themm but at the end of the day it won't stop me eating chicken or KFC. Like say if I was all like "I'm not eating chicken now because of that video" it wouldn't matter cause they would still be killing chickens.
Thats why there are such things as petitions...:rolleyes:
Baving
31-10-2005, 09:26 PM
That video is disgusting. It gives food a bad name.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:28 PM
Because its healthy for you , go get anemic because you have no iron in you because you dont eat no meat be weak die young you obviously want to :)
Lol, I'm completely healthy and I have my iron. I eat eggs, nuts, tofu and stuff like that, and I have everything I need to live. Actually, I'm a bit fat, people at school noticed too. Not only meat have iron, you stupid person.
TealArms
31-10-2005, 09:29 PM
i gotta say if u say some of the chickens flapping around, then thats what happens same with pigs, it is summit to do with the nerves.
my cus has chickens and i have killed chickens, but i will only kill an animail if there is a reason, the reason we killed them was because they cought a disise
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:29 PM
So they have the best source , how do you know you dont like meat if you hav'nt tried it , go die with your chicks kks because its not going to stop so run along in the fields you naked hippy xD
Steph
31-10-2005, 09:30 PM
Thats why there are such things as petitions...:rolleyes:
I don't think they'd ever get enough signatures.
Concentric
31-10-2005, 09:30 PM
Yea but we aint killing them were just eating them,
Huh?
I dont see how thats terrible its going to happen anyway
HUH!?!?
What a load of tosh - please reconsider these comments. Clearly the brutality of the handling and poor quality of life for the birds is the result of deliberate human activity and isn't "going to happen anyway".
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:30 PM
Yea but we aint killing them were just eating them , you would'nt be alive today if it did'nt happen so go die if its so terrible
Rofl!
Twas funny!
Yummy Yummy KFC :p Eating animals is natural, I'd rather eat some meat than some Cabbage.
I'd rather be a carnivore than a herbivore ;)
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:30 PM
So they have the best source , how do you know you dont like meat if you hav'nt tried it , go die with your chicks kks because its not going to stop so run along in the fields you naked hippy xD
Shutup I'm not a hippy and your point is stupid because I'm as healty as you and I don't eat meat.
DJ-Bahrami
31-10-2005, 09:31 PM
That Is Pretty Cruel :(
TealArms
31-10-2005, 09:32 PM
lol u don't need to be a hippi to be a veggi, my old scout leader was a vegi, my teacher is and her son has been a vegi all his life, its like u know when u see summit and u don't like it even though u aint tried it, i think it is like that
also KFC, Maccers, Bk and other fast food places are not that healthy and we all know that
Rofl!
Twas funny!
Yummy Yummy KFC :p Eating animals is natural, I'd rather eat some meat than some Cabbage.
I'd rather be a carnivore than a herbivore ;)
Your omnivore not carnicore as u eat vegis and meat
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Have you ever eat KFC chicken ? I hope you will never again, after seeing this.
www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com (http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com)
Look at the videos... That's discusting. They're so stupid to do that.
And now i will eat more, to make up for any idiots who take that made up stadges properganda bull **** seriuosly :rolleyes:
Comeone its peta? they acta all charty then they kill of the animals and keep them in frezzer and half there staff have been arested on animal rights abouses?
what to know how "NICE" the people who made that website are? take a read http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm
peta are little more than terrorists, who clame there a chraty
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Huh?
HUH!?!?
What a load of tosh - please reconsider these comments. Clearly the brutality of the handling and poor quality of life for the birds is the result of deliberate human activity and isn't "going to happen anyway".
Well said con, eamnons or how ever you spell it, obviously you have no heart into whats happening to these animals, if I came round your house/flat/mansion/box/whatever and hung you upside down and slit your throat and threw you into a cage, how would you feel?
Steph
31-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Huh?
HUH!?!?
What a load of tosh - please reconsider these comments. Clearly the brutality of the handling and poor quality of life for the birds is the result of deliberate human activity and isn't "going to happen anyway".
I think eamonns means like we are not the ones who are personally killing them. We are just eating a dead animal.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Huh?
HUH!?!?
What a load of tosh - please reconsider these comments. Clearly the brutality of the handling and poor quality of life for the birds is the result of deliberate human activity and isn't "going to happen anyway".
Yes because i go around killing the meat i eat :rolleyes: and like its going to stop anyway it would'nt the average life expectancy would go down if it stopped and we had no meat
TealArms
31-10-2005, 09:34 PM
Fixations he would be dead
eggd2
31-10-2005, 09:34 PM
i think they over act it a lot, chickens live to feed, we live to eat!
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:34 PM
Well said con, eamnons or how ever you spell it, obviously you have no heart into whats happening to these animals, if I came round your house/flat/mansion/box/whatever and hung you upside down and slit your throat and threw you into a cage, how would you feel?
Yea because it happens that way , do you believe everything tarts on videos tell you :rolleyes: and you dont know where i live so thats not likely to happen
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:35 PM
Well duh :p
im not hungry don't talk in this thread
*doesn;t look*
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:36 PM
And now i will eat more, to make up for any idiots who take that made up stadges properganda bull **** seriuosly :rolleyes:
Comeone its peta? they acta all charty then they kill of the animals and keep them in frezzer and half there staff have been arested on animal rights abouses?
what to know how "NICE" the people who made that website are? take a read http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm
peta are little more than terrorists, who clame there a chraty
Peta Anumal murder more animals pointlessly than most food chains do for food. How can anyone be stupid enogh to trust sites and rediculs clames, and stadges movies trhat they make? or didnt you know there movies are fake, and filmed by them? theyve been sued a few times for it and got away becuse there a "chratry"
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:36 PM
Yea because it happens that way , do you believe everything tarts on videos tell you :rolleyes: and you dont know where i live so thats not likely to happen
god... you are really immature aren't you?
its called an EXPRESSION thats a big word for you isn't it eamonns!
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:38 PM
Well said con, eamnons or how ever you spell it, obviously you have no heart into whats happening to these animals, if I came round your house/flat/mansion/box/whatever and hung you upside down and slit your throat and threw you into a cage, how would you feel?
It's not as if there going to see any life, the world. Once there born, there fead loads and kept in those cages for a long time. The farmers don't let them have a run around outside, so in a way, its not really cruel because your killing an inocent animal.
If you saw a chicken running around all happily then shoot it, that would be cruel.
Concentric
31-10-2005, 09:38 PM
I think eamonns means like we are not the ones who are personally killing them. We are just eating a dead animal.
Of course we are (we, as in humans in general) - the chickens wouldn't die if we didn't kill them would they?
and like its going to stop anyway it would'nt the average life expectancy would go down if it stopped and we had no meat
You have a rediculous obsession with the necessity of meat in a healthy diet - the life expectancy of humans would not go down if we stopped eating meat, what a rediculous assumption.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:38 PM
god... you are really immature aren't you?
its called an EXPRESSION thats a big word for you isn't it eamonns!
Yes arnt peta nice, saving the animals, form being eaten, takeing money, Then BRUTALY SLUGTRING THEM. Most there staff are up on animal rights abuses.
There movies are fake
Take a read at the truth http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:38 PM
eamonns, everything you deserve is that we give you a lot of food to make you become fatter and your legs can't even support the weigh, so you will have to crawl to walk, and then that we throw you in a cage where there are already hundreds of people, then we put you in a truck for 1 week without any food or water, then we cut your neck and if it doesn't work properly, you will stay conscious for 4 minutes before you die in a cruel death, then I someone eat you and say "I don't care, I'm a predator and I kill to live, even if I don't have to kill and I could stay alive without eating this person.". That is really what you deserve. Go die you cruel person, I hope this happen to you or you get hit by a truck and die after 1 hour of suffering.
All I have to say is;
'Did Eamonns act like this, no..'
oh my god :'( I am actually crying over it :'(
its making me really depressed.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:39 PM
No a big word for me is what that mary poppins women says you know big un :) and are you saying she were'nt a tart p-leaseee
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:40 PM
The reason they dont see any life or the world, is because they were kept in there in the first place... they have no choice unless they become giant, and evil...
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:40 PM
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm
PETA kills more animals than KFC so why are people saying kfc is bad ?
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:41 PM
The reason they dont see any life or the world, is because they were kept in there in the first place... they have no choice unless they become giant, and evil...
Exactly so theres no point in crying about it :rolleyes:
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:41 PM
I were'nt the one that said that predator stuff :rolleyes:
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Well do you agree ?
NOWNOW ORDER, ORDER!!
*Bangs wooden thingie*
This thingie has been postponed till tomorrow at 5pm!
Now, stop :) <33
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Ross, it was becuase it was depressing, but now Mentor has showed us ALL the site, I now know that it was fake... so I am now quitting this thread, I am sorry to anybody that I have offended (eamonns, and the rest...)
Cya ;D
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Who cares, you agree with it.
He has a brain, Your got washed by the animal murders, PETA judging form your respoinces.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm
*is highly anti peta and will keep on like this till someone notices him*
Animal righst and wethr its ok to eat meat arnt to do with this thread id be happy to arugue that one, but dosnt belong here
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:43 PM
Lol, mentor you can stop posting the site now :p
you posted it 5 times :p
GoldenBiscuit
31-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Animals are cool, I love my dogs, they are pure pwnage, I also used to have chickens, but the fox killed the little critters. :(
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Hmm yes and theres whynot going omg they ARENT FAKE !! and mentors proven you wrong =l anyway that tart on the video would'nt even know how to spell orange let alone know about how kfc chicken is made
Steph
31-10-2005, 09:44 PM
eamonns, everything you deserve is that we give you a lot of food to make you become fatter and your legs can't even support the weigh, so you will have to crawl to walk, and then that we throw you in a cage where there are already hundreds of people, then we put you in a truck for 1 week without any food or water, then we cut your neck and if it doesn't work properly, you will stay conscious for 4 minutes before you die in a cruel death, then I someone eat you and say "I don't care, I'm a predator and I kill to live, even if I don't have to kill and I could stay alive without eating this person.". That is really what you deserve. Go die you cruel person, I hope this happen to you or you get hit by a truck and die after 1 hour of suffering.
omg how ott are you. wishing someone would die just because they don't agree with something. and the end of the day people have a choice, you can eat meat or you can chose not to. just because some of you don't eat it doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:44 PM
eamonns, everything you deserve is that we give you a lot of food to make you become fatter and your legs can't even support the weigh, so you will have to crawl to walk, and then that we throw you in a cage where there are already hundreds of people, then we put you in a truck for 1 week without any food or water, then we cut your neck and if it doesn't work properly, you will stay conscious for 4 minutes before you die in a cruel death, then I someone eat you and say "I don't care, I'm a predator and I kill to live, even if I don't have to kill and I could stay alive without eating this person.". That is really what you deserve. Go die you cruel person, I hope this happen to you or you get hit by a truck and die after 1 hour of suffering.
Well your half as nice as the people who kill the chickens :rolleyes:
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Lol, mentor you can stop posting the site now :p
you posted it 5 times :p
No one was takeing any notice so i dieded to attempt to drum it in rather than let it woosh over peoples heads lol :D
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:45 PM
Yes ?whynot? because i dont agree with you i should get hit by a truck
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:46 PM
omg how ott are you. wishing someone would die just because they don't agree with something. and the end of the day people have a choice, you can eat meat or you can chose not to. just because some of you don't eat it doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't
I'm not telling that to him because he doesn't agree with me, but because he agrees with what is happening to the chicken. Then why wouldn't it happen to him ?
I'm not telling that to him because he doesn't agree with me, but because he agrees with what is happening to the chicken. Then why wouldn't it happen to him?
I don't think you're in touch with reality..
It wouldn't happen to him, because he's human do humans go around killing other humans AND THEN eating them, I think not.
So stop going ott, see daylight and get in touch with the real world.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I'm not telling that to him because he doesn't agree with me, but because he agrees with what is happening to the chicken. Then why wouldn't it happen to him ?
No because i knew it was fake and its true that you would'nt be alive if animals were'nt killed :$ and your embarassing yourself now
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I'm not telling that to him because he doesn't agree with me, but because he agrees with what is happening to the chicken. Then why wouldn't it happen to him ?
Have you not read half this thread and the posts iin it? Your being silly and overreacting immaturely.
Steph
31-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I'm not telling that to him because he doesn't agree with me, but because he agrees with what is happening to the chicken. Then why wouldn't it happen to him ?
How else can you kill a chicken? I agree they do it in a vile way, but even if they just killed it on the spot it would still be as bad.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:49 PM
No because i knew it was fake and its true that you would'nt be alive if animals were'nt killed :$ and your embarassing yourself now
Then if it wouldn't be fake you wouldn't say the same thing ? By the way, I'm not embarassing myself.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 09:49 PM
I'm not telling that to him because he doesn't agree with me, but because he agrees with what is happening to the chicken. Then why wouldn't it happen to him ?
its a chicken mate, get some pretcive, trust me, if it didnt happen, fox would have it, and trust me a fox is far less humanin than even the made up and over exsgated stupidty vilence added in petas vidioes, never lown how human quick and easy it is IRL
Scriptermone
31-10-2005, 09:50 PM
I
do humans go around killing other humans AND THEN eating them, I think not.
Lol, ross theyre called Cannibals :rolleyes:
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:50 PM
You dont see how your embarassing yourself ;o i feel sorry for you ;(
Exactly.
If it wasn't for animals being killed, you wouldn't be alive.. well, maybe you'd live on bread - but, I'm sure you like a good ole chicken breast sometime.
We can't stop it (not saying I agree or disagree with it), yet - someone eventually can though.. but for now, I'd leave it, you're embarassing yourself.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:52 PM
Exactly.
If it wasn't for animals being killed, you wouldn't be alive.. well, maybe you'd live on bread - but, I'm sure you like a good ole chicken breast sometime.
We can't stop it (not saying I agree or disagree with it), yet - someone eventually can though.. but for now, I'd leave it, you're embarassing yourself.
No because his ancestors would'nt be alive because they would'nt of had meat to survive with
Good point.
As I said earlier ?WhyNot? get in touch with the real world, that's life for you, you have to do wrong to make a right (if that made any sence)
What I mean is; we need chicken as food to live, so without it, half of the world would starve..
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:53 PM
If it wasn't for animals being killed, you wouldn't be alive.. well, maybe you'd live on bread - but, I'm sure you like a good ole chicken breast sometime.
Ok, I'll just say something and then I think this thread should be closed.
I NEVER ate meat, I want it to be clear, I swear to god, or to anybody you want. Actually, maybe I ate meat not on purpose when I was yound and I went to my friend's house, but that's it, I find steak and stuff like that completely discusting.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:56 PM
Ok, I'll just say something and then I think this thread should be closed.
I NEVER ate meat, I want it to be clear, I swear to god, or to anybody you want. Actually, maybe I ate meat not on purpose when I was yound and I went to my friend's house, but that's it, I find steak and stuff like that completely discusting.
Hence we have Carnivores, Herbivores and Omnivores. :rolleyes:
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 09:57 PM
Ok, I'll just say something and then I think this thread should be closed.
I NEVER ate meat, I want it to be clear, I swear to god, or to anybody you want. Actually, maybe I ate meat not on purpose when I was yound and I went to my friend's house, but that's it, I find steak and stuff like that completely discusting.
Ok you've just contradicted yourself , saying I NEVER ate meat the saying actually maybe i ate meat :$
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:57 PM
Hence we have Carnivores, Herbivores and Omnivores. :rolleyes:
And vegetarians.
Edit : eamonns, I'm just saying if I ever ate meat I didn't notice, but I never meant to eat meat. :$
Concentric
31-10-2005, 09:58 PM
Ok, I'll just say something and then I think this thread should be closed.
I NEVER ate meat, I want it to be clear, I swear to god, or to anybody you want. Actually, maybe I ate meat not on purpose when I was yound and I went to my friend's house, but that's it, I find steak and stuff like that completely discusting.
Why do you find it disgusting? You could say that you're being cruel to plants by chopping them down and mashing them up.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 09:59 PM
Why do you find it disgusting? You could say that you're being cruel to plants by chopping them down and mashing them up.
Lol, I'm finding it discusting, just like you find poo and pee discusting, it's like that.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 09:59 PM
And vegetarians.
Edit : eamonns, I'm just saying if I ever ate meat I didn't notice, but I never meant to eat meat.
Herbivore = Vegetarian
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Concentric
31-10-2005, 10:00 PM
Lol, I'm finding it discusting, just like you find poo and pee discusting, it's like that.
Who said i find poo and pee disgusting?
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 10:00 PM
Why do you find it disgusting? You could say that you're being cruel to plants by chopping them down and mashing them up.
Yea you have a point because plants are living creatures
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:00 PM
Who said i find poo and pee disgusting?
Lol, don't you.. ?!
Edit : There is a BIG difference between plants and animals.
Plants doesn't feel the pain.
Animals do.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 10:02 PM
Lol, don't you.. ?!
Well its a pretty off topic post, are we not discussing about chickens and how some of them are treated? Not about human waste :s
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:02 PM
And vegetarians.
Edit : eamonns, I'm just saying if I ever ate meat I didn't notice, but I never meant to eat meat. :$
lol no you realy are imbarisng yourself, look up the meanings of those big words then relise the stupidty demostaryed.
Also even ignoring petas Bull****, im pro meat, and actaly have enogh of a grip on realty to undertsnad what realy happens "/
ps, u know about the force feeding birds the fattener, corn syrup. Guess what sugar subsitue is used in almsot every fizzy drink? thats right corn syrup so we are beeing fattened up anyway lol
Lol, don't you.. ?!
Edit : There is a BIG difference between plants and animals.
Plants doesn't feel the pain.
Animals do.
Wrong. they dont do it threw a cerntal nervos system, but still can, plants have dmosated advnaced movment abiultys, the bailty to feel, screem and even count?
But they have no conuose relcotion of this, then again nore do any animal exspet us =.=
Vitality
31-10-2005, 10:03 PM
Chick Chick Chick Chicken Lay A Little Egg For Me .. :eusa_whis
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 10:03 PM
Lol, don't you.. ?!
Edit : There is a BIG difference between plants and animals.
Plants doesn't feel the pain.
Animals do.
How do you know that? just because you can't hear them yelp! its ok to eat them ?
And theres a BIG difference between Chickens and human poo and wee :s
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 10:03 PM
Yay thanks for Mentors smartness :)
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:03 PM
ps, u know about the force feeding birds the fattener, corn syrup. Guess what sugar subsitue is used in almsot every fizzy drink? thats right corn syrup so we are beeing fattened up anyway lol
Yes, but we are AWARE of this, but do we ask chicken if they agree ? I don't think so.
Concentric
31-10-2005, 10:03 PM
Lol, don't you.. ?!
Edit : There is a BIG difference between plants and animals.
Plants doesn't feel the pain.
Animals do.
I don't find them painfully disgusting - i accept that they are produced and don't worry about it. Similarly i was trying to argue that however you do it the animal has to be killed in order to eat it. Sorry, the plant example was a bit rediculous.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 10:05 PM
I don't find them painfully disgusting - i accept that they are produced and don't worry about it. Similarly i was trying to argue that however you do it the animal has to be killed in order to eat it. Sorry, the plant example was a bit rediculous.
No way was it rediculous you made a good point ! Because theres no fact that they cant feel pain just becasue they cant scream +rep
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Yes, but we are AWARE of this, but do we ask chicken if they agree ? I don't think so.
Your embarrasing yourself now...surely :s
Were not Ace Ventura or Dr.Doolittle :rolleyes:
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Yes, but we are AWARE of this, but do we ask chicken if they agree ? I don't think so.
Chcikens arent aware to start with, you have as much chances of getting your pet rock to dance the okey cokey, than you do of that =.=
No way was it rediculous you made a good point ! Because theres no fact that they cant feel pain just becasue they cant scream +rep
actaly... plants can scream, there screams are ultra sonic, so thats an even better point that you think
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Lol, how could they feel anything ? They need a brain to feel it, or anything such as a nervous system.
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Lmao at the Ace ventura bit :D
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:09 PM
Lol, how could they feel anything ? They need a brain to feel it, or anything such as a nervous system.
No you dont? we use that method, there are billions of other possible methods, my computer has no cenral nevos systems and that can feel when buts are pressed, yes a synitheic system, but is still feeling and reacting to it, like plants and animals, as well as sharing the same level of conuisness aka NONE.
Concentric
31-10-2005, 10:10 PM
Lol, how could they feel anything ? They need a brain to feel it, or anything such as a nervous system.
This could turn into a really complex debate about the plants having souls and stuff - let's not go there.
And please stop saying "You're just embarrassing yourself now", putting forward their opinion shouldn't be an embarrassment, and against fierce opposition i'd say he's doing ok :rolleyes:
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:11 PM
By the way, EVEN if the plants could feel pain, we just cut the plants, then they die. But what about the animals ? If we would just cut the chicken's head, then the chicken die, I wouldn't have started this thread. The point is that they mistreat them.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:11 PM
This could turn into a really complex debate about the plants having souls and stuff - let's not go there.
And please stop saying "You're just embarrassing yourself now", putting forward their opinion shouldn't be an embarrassment, and against fierce opposition i'd say he's doing ok :rolleyes:
i personly dont belive in soles, there non existant, its just a persptive conspet to descirbe what is are coniosness, we being the only coniose animal, aka haveing knolage that we have knolage, would mean we are the only animal to have a "sole" evne thogh the sprital sole sence is ficttonal
By the way, EVEN if the plants could feel pain, we just cut the plants, then they die. But what about the animals ? If we would just cut the chicken's head, then the chicken die, I wouldn't have started this thread. The point is that they mistreat them.
In the real world, they dont thogh, companys dont spend the buget on mistreating animnals :rolleyes: plus beheading is actaly seen as inhumain by many, they actaly use a more humanin method that that for most animals "/
Pelfe
31-10-2005, 10:14 PM
-shudders- thats put me off for life :'[
Concentric
31-10-2005, 10:14 PM
i personly dont belive in soles, there non existant, its just a persptive conspet to descirbe what is are coniosness, we being the only coniose animal, aka haveing knolage that we have knolage, would mean we are the only animal to have a "sole" evne thogh the sprital sole sence is ficttonal
In the real world, they dont thogh, companys dont spend the buget on mistreating animnals :rolleyes: plus beheading is actaly seen as inhumain by many, they actaly use a more humanin method that that for most animals "/
I said avoid debates on souls! :rolleyes:
I'm glad you said that WhyNot, and i agree with you there.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:14 PM
In the real world, they dont thogh, companys dont spend the buget on mistreating animnals :rolleyes: plus beheading is actaly seen as inhumain by many, they actaly use a more humanin method that that for most animals "/
"Most" of the animals ? Why not ALL of them ?
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:15 PM
-shudders- thats put me off for life :'[
pssst. i think u missed it, but that video is made up propagnda from peta a bunch of terrorist and animal killers.
"Most" of the animals ? Why not ALL of them ?
becuse some smaller animals its far easyer to behead them as it can be done in a slinge clean and human motion :rolleyes:
I said avoid debates on souls! :rolleyes:
due to not haveing a good debat in some time, i shall be pulling in any quetsion that arrised in to debate :D
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Anyway, I got to go now.
P.S.: Don't worry, I didn't embarass myself by explaining my point ;)
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:18 PM
Anyway, I got to go now.
P.S.: Don't worry, I didn't embarass myself by explaining my point ;)
*pats head* you just keep on beliveing that
Eamonn
31-10-2005, 10:19 PM
Yes the arguement has been won thanks to mentors uber smartness :)
GommeInc
31-10-2005, 10:22 PM
I suppose that answers why I am violently ill after eating KFC. Nenver gain shall I eat that, the chicken is literally poison to me...
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 10:22 PM
I think we need a good ol debate about something. Oh well, lets go over to Thybag ;)
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:24 PM
I suppose that answers why I am violently ill after eating KFC. Nenver gain shall I eat that, the chicken is literally poison to me...
even thogh there video is bull****, i will agree, KFC do serve some realy skanky chicken "/ wich is very good at ill makeing, wich is why i always avoid kfc (even if they do have shiney adverts)
I think we need a good ol debate about something. Oh well, lets go over to Thybag ;)
Dag nabit, you took the words right out of my mouth lol. *cough* http://thybag.co.uk
Yes the arguement has been won thanks to mentors uber smartness :)
Woo, thanks :D +rep
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 10:27 PM
Dag nabit, you took the words right out of my mouth lol. *cough* http://thybag.co.uk
Rofl^:p
The chicken that the really rubbish Chicken shops ell must be manky :eusa_sile
GommeInc
31-10-2005, 10:30 PM
The only chicken I eat nowadays is from the Tescos Ready Cook range, because you can see the chicken being cooked, it is a whole chicken and it is actually is real.
I don't eat sandwiches as much anymore where they come with it already in the sandwiche, I make my own...
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Yes the arguement has been won thanks to mentors uber smartness :)
What the hell ? You say you and Mentor won... Any proof ?
Actually, I still think I am right, so I don't think you won anything, me either though. Stop thinking you're always right and because I had to brb you and Mentor are the best.
P.S.: As you maybe noticed, I'm back.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:31 PM
What the hell ? You say you and Mentor won what you said... Any proof ?
Actually, I still think I am right, so I don't think you won anything, me either though. Stop thinking you're always right and because I had to brb you and Mentor are the best.
P.S.: As you maybe noticed, I'm back.
yay, i was getting board of un debatltyness.
Athogh you made no redoniable point within that to actaly chalenge?
GommeInc
31-10-2005, 10:32 PM
What the hell ? You say you and Mentor won... Any proof ?
Actually, I still think I am right, so I don't think you won anything, me either though. Stop thinking you're always right and because I had to brb you and Mentor are the best.
P.S.: As you maybe noticed, I'm back.
In theory Plants and Animals are from the same genetic background. All started off as bacteria or whatever the name it has. They grew up in the water, then inhabited the Earth. I think plants came first, then animals?
The only different is how they were created really, both cells are different.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:33 PM
yay, i was getting board of un debatltyness.
Athogh you made no redoniable point within that to actaly chalenge?
Did you ?
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:34 PM
Did you ?
yes, the last ontopic post was mine http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=1046231&postcount=134 i would quoted but it would looses the quoted quotes, so ill just link ya
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:38 PM
yes, the last ontopic post was mine http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=1046231&postcount=134 i would quoted but it would looses the quoted quotes, so ill just link ya
This is not what the debate is about.
You say that humans are predator and kill animals to eat.
I say that it's basically true, but we don't NEED to kill animals to live.
I agree with the ancestors thing, but now we ARE able to live without killing animals. So we kill animals for the fun of the taste ? That's terrible.
brunojrthechao
31-10-2005, 10:39 PM
To be honest I couldnt care less if the 'poor chicken' had been brutely murdered with no life what so ever, or it had had a lovely life outside or whatever, aslong as its...
Safe to Eat
Tastes nice
and is cheap.
Im afraid option no3 would be cut out if this wasnt happening, would you realy want to pay £10.00 for abit of popcorn chicken? NO! but that would probably be the cost if they did live a lovely life.
welcome to the real world....
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:41 PM
Im afraid option no3 would be cut out if this wasnt happening, would you realy want to pay £10.00 for abit of popcorn chicken? NO! but that would probably be the cost if they did live a lovely life.
Is popcorn chicken essential to live ? NO.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:43 PM
This is not what the debate is about.
You say that humans are predator and kill animals to eat.
I say that it's basically true, but we don't NEED to kill animals to leave.
Untrue, we can survive without them, but not so well, proteans form other sorces are far less quality than meat based ones, and many of the subtitutes have some very negive effetcs.
a high soi diet is shown to cuase infertilty, and massivly increase the risk of miscarge in mothers.
kwarn has more peope alergic to it than penuts, so not that many people could realy survive to well, on that sort of diet.
And why not kill, its nature, we top preditor eat that lower down, if we dont another perodtor will, and trust me were the more humain ones "/
I agree with the ancestors thing, but now we ARE able to live without kill animals. So we kill animals for the fun of the taste ? That's terrible.
Ever wondered why most vegatians have stunted groth, and are ether over weight, or weeklings? its just some of the vegitaran helth benifits "/
We can live without them, but not very well.
Plus by stopping eating meat you would have tp pointly kill millions of animals, or the population would be unstainable, plus the fact are planets not big enogh to fit enogh farm land in to to grown enogh crops like that to feed us.
plus the fact theres no reason to to start with?
brunojrthechao
31-10-2005, 10:44 PM
By the way I was talking to the people who might actualy eat there, im suspecting your a vege? (correct me if im wrong)
If you are please dont force your opinion on to me please ;) it might be to some people.
brunojrthechao
31-10-2005, 10:45 PM
Untrue, we can survive without them, but not so well, proteans form other sorces are far less quality than meat based ones, and many of the subtitutes have some very negive effetcs.
a high soi diet is shown to cuase infertilty, and massivly increase the risk of miscarge in mothers.
kwarn has more peope alergic to it than penuts, so not that many people could realy survive to well, on that sort of diet.
And why not kill, its nature, we top preditor eat that lower down, if we dont another perodtor will, and trust me were the more humain ones "/
Ever wondered why most vegatians have stunted groth, and are ether over weight, or weeklings? its just some of the vegitaran helth benifits "/
We can live without them, but not very well.
Plus by stopping eating meat you would have tp pointly kill millions of animals, or the population would be unstainable, plus the fact are planets not big enogh to fit enogh farm land in to to grown enogh crops like that to feed us.
plus the fact theres no reason to to start with?
Great post im sure someone will argue with you though +rep.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:47 PM
By the way I was talking to the people who might actualy eat there, im suspecting your a vege? (correct me if im wrong)
If you are please dont force your opinion on to me please ;) it might be to some people.
Yes, I am vegetarian.
By the way, Mentor, where on the PETA website is it written that they made the KentuckyFriedCruelty thing ?
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:49 PM
Yes, I am vegetarian.
By the way, Mentor, where on the PETA website is it written that they made the KentuckyFriedCruelty thing ?
I duno, athogh it is somewhere, its easyer to find on the KentuckyFriedCruelty website thogh, plus the fact peta host it, and the fact they own the domain, and the fact they advertise it as part of there orgnaition, they have a few about many diffent fast food chains and other issues?
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 10:50 PM
I duno, athogh it is somewhere, its easyer to find on the KentuckyFriedCruelty website thogh, plus the fact peta host it, and the fact they own the domain, and the fact they advertise it as part of there orgnaition, they have a few about many diffent fast food chains and other issues?
Ok and where is the proof that the videos are fake ?
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:53 PM
Ok and where is the proof that the videos are fake ?
appart from a few errors in the film, the fact peta staff are in it actaing, the fact any real farmer woulnt waste time and money being crule to animals, never lown giveing films it it, and the fact they admited it, and clamed athogh it was faluce it wasnt supposed to be real, it was just trhere normal shock propganda to show what could happen (they always have a few spelling mistakes that complty change meanings of sentances, and avoide any clames to real validty, notice how vage what they say actaly is)
take a read http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm if you realy interested
Hatake Kakashi
31-10-2005, 10:55 PM
That's put me off chicken for ever. Thanks for that >:(
Mentor
31-10-2005, 10:57 PM
That's put me off chicken for ever. Thanks for that >:(
its fake =.= why dont people actaly read the attched theads?
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 10:59 PM
Ok and where is the proof that the videos are fake ?
Well for one, if they've stuck Pamela Anderson (out of all the people in the world) on the video set, I think most of there points are badically rubbish. Pamela Anderson has no signifficance about what happens to the poor chickens. She was oly on the video because shes a busty blonde and famous, publicity, a way of getting people to read there sotry and the campaign there trying to withhold.
As Mentor has quoted already, deep research shows that this group (PETA) does the opposite of what there campaigning about, the kill innocent animals for no reason I presume.
I'd like to know more about this now we've had a lengthly discussion.
Hatake Kakashi
31-10-2005, 10:59 PM
I just saw it now thank you.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:01 PM
appart from a few errors in the film, the fact peta staff are in it actaing, the fact any real farmer woulnt waste time and money being crule to animals, never lown giveing films it it, and the fact they admited it, and clamed athogh it was faluce it wasnt supposed to be real, it was just trhere normal shock propganda to show what could happen (they always have a few spelling mistakes that complty change meanings of sentances, and avoide any clames to real validty, notice how vage what they say actaly is)
take a read http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm if you realy interested
Ok, maybe the videos are fake. But there still the fact that I'm more informed than you about the vegetarians.
I never had any problem being a vegetarian. Of course, if you do not eat proteans and iron in other food, you will have problems. But someone who is vegetarian and who is eating what he needs won't have any problem, he will maybe even be more healty than someone who isn't vegetarian. You're saying that vegetarians are weak... Are you one ? Do you know how it is ? Do you know if you feel weak ? Where is the proof ? You're saying anything and you don't even know what you're talking about.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:02 PM
As Mentor has quoted already, deep research shows that this group (PETA) does the opposite of what there campaigning about, the kill innocent animals for no reason I presume.
I'd like to know more about this now we've had a lengthly discussion.
i woulnt say for nothing, they get millions of sponcering and funding to look after the animals they take in, as well as tax conseesions for being a charity, they take in a few `1000 animals, kill them all, then there more aless millionairs overnight. Its all about the money.
I never had any problem being a vegetarian. Of course, if you do not eat proteans and iron in other food, you will have problems. But someone who is vegetarian and who is eating what he needs won't have any problem, he will maybe even be more healty than someone who isn't vegetarian.
Ok, true alot of what i said applyed more to vegans, but the point remains, in the qualty of proteans taken in, wich often causes weekness, a vegarain diet is alos harder to support and gives no real beaaift. True many people say that vegtarinas are more healthy than other people? athogh from my own knolage i find nothing that even remotly supports it.
Other than the fact, vegitarans being vegairan are more cariful what they eat and stick to higher qualty foods rather than alot of the normal junk, wich increases health, yes. But thats only more than someone who lives on junk food, the worlds healthest people, are omnioves, who also eat cairfuly, includeing a practising surgen in china, if i rember rightly who hit the age of 100, nearly a year ago now. keep in mind still practismng, and still looks healther than alot of 50 year olds.
You're saying that vegetarians are weak... Are you one ? Do you know how it is ? Do you know if you feel weak ? Where is the proof ? You're saying anything and you don't even know what you're talking about.
less protean, less mustle groth, this is based on both my own exsperinces and evidance.
i did also mean in the phiscal sence.
Exspreine is ive yet to meat a vegiatrn who isnt a aboulte weekling, who can litaral punch you aorund the face without you noticeing (i mean serriosly that week)
Do strengh intencoive jobs even have any vegitarns in them? athleats such as welit lifers? cant think of one. Jobs with alot of manula labor, also cant think of own, at all "/
Athogh i can think of ex vegaitrans who had to give it up since they theslves admited on that diet they were to febal to to the intncive work required "/
.Lynn
31-10-2005, 11:02 PM
I love KFC. Chicken is great!
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:03 PM
i woulnt say for nothing, they get millions of sponcering and funding to look after the animals they take in, as well as tax conseesions for being a charity, they take in a few `1000 animals, kill them all, then there more aless millionairs overnight. Its all about the money.
Did you see my post ?
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:11 PM
Did you see my post ?
look up :D
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:13 PM
Ok, maybe the videos are fake. But there still the fact that I'm more informed than you about the vegetarians.
I never had any problem being a vegetarian. Of course, if you do not eat proteans and iron in other food, you will have problems. But someone who is vegetarian and who is eating what he needs won't have any problem, he will maybe even be more healty than someone who isn't vegetarian. You're saying that vegetarians are weak... Are you one ? Do you know how it is ? Do you know if you feel weak ? Where is the proof ? You're saying anything and you don't even know what you're talking about.
Firstly, you don't have to be a vegetarian to know what its like to be one. Research plays a key factor in this, rather than us slaving around to show you some research, whynot you do any?
Your views about this are obviously oblivious to know what your actually talking about. Humans need a balance of proteins, carbohydrates, iron, vitamins etc... to be healthy. Thats a healthy balanced human diet which if people abided to, we would be healthy.
You choose to be a vegetarian, you were bought up that way, its a rule you follow in life and you choose to live with that. Not eating meat can disadvantage your health obviously, plants may contain irons, proteins etc.. but you'd have to eat a large consumption in order to match what meat contains.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:16 PM
less protean, less mustle groth, this is based on both my own exsperinces and evidance.
i did also mean in the phiscal sence.
Exspreine is ive yet to meat a vegiatrn who isnt a aboulte weekling, who can litaral punch you aorund the face without you noticeing (i mean serriosly that week)
Do strengh intencoive jobs even have any vegitarns in them? athleats such as welit lifers? cant think of one. Jobs with alot of manula labor, also cant think of own, at all "/
Athogh i can think of ex vegaitrans who had to give it up since they theslves admited on that diet they were to febal to to the intncive work required "/
Well then, we both saw (felt in my case) different stories. The vegetarian people that you met wasn't eating enough proteans and iron. Then how do you explain that me, my father, my brother and my mother never had any problem being vegetarian ?
Edit : NekkLe, do you have any research to show me to prove your point ?
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:17 PM
Well then, we both saw (felt in my case) different stories. The vegetarian people that you met wasn't eating enough proteans and iron. Then how do you explain that me, my father, my brother and my mother never had any problem being vegetarian ?
Please read my post :p ^^
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:18 PM
Please read my post :p ^^
Look up ;)
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:18 PM
Well then, we both saw (felt in my case) different stories. The vegetarian people that you met wasn't eating enough proteans and iron. Then how do you explain that me, my father, my brother and my mother never had any problem being vegetarian ?
the people in question dont think they have any problem being vegiatran, if you have no exsperince of not being vegitaran your mind would have nothing to base a true conspet of being ok on, so would defult toi the weekened state as being the normal level
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:20 PM
the people in question dont think they have any problem being vegiatran, if you have no exsperince of not being vegitaran your mind would have nothing to base a true conspet of being ok on, so would defult toi the weekened state as being the normal level
My mother turned omnivore now, and she didn't notice any change.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:22 PM
My mother turned omnivore now, and she didn't notice any change.
a humans coneptual levels woulnt change, changes would only be visable from an exstnal or indpeant prospective.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:22 PM
Well then, we both saw (felt in my case) different stories. The vegetarian people that you met wasn't eating enough proteans and iron. Then how do you explain that me, my father, my brother and my mother never had any problem being vegetarian ?
Edit : NekkLe, do you have any research to show me to prove your point ?
Do I have any research? As I stated, look it up yourself. And I have a knowledge about this matter so maybe learn something from me :)
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:23 PM
Do I have any research? As I stated, look it up yourself. And I have a knowledge about this matter so maybe learn something from me :)
Where did you get your knowledge ?
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:27 PM
Where did you get your knowledge ?
when did this become a Epistemology debate lol? my knolage is primary knolage from athory combined with sence expserance, wich i used ratonal knolage to deduce conclueions from thogh :D
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:28 PM
Well, I can tell you that my Biology teacher (she must has a very high knowledge) said that if I eat eggs, nuts, tofu and stuff like that, I have everything I need. Will you tell me that my teacher is wrong ? She studied about this...
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:29 PM
Where did you get your knowledge ?
You have a question for everything? I done P.E for GCSE's and read books about this stuff.
This could turn into a lengthly debate however I'm tired so I sha'll not go that way.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:32 PM
I do read books about this too, and I never read that being vegetarian is dangerous.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:33 PM
Well, I can tell you that my Biology teacher (she must has a very high knowledge) said that if I eat eggs, nuts, tofu and stuff like that, I have everything I need. Will you tell me that my teacher is wrong ? She studied about this...
An egg should do, since it is everything needed to form a chicken, just baring fertilsition? so it is like eating a tiny chicken in its raw componets in a way "/
tofu is soy based, wich has been linked to causeing miscarrages in woman.
nuts are nuts, athogh there protean qualty is quite low "/
I do read books about this too, and I never read that being vegetarian is dangerous.
Depends wich books you read, plus most people dont read books that conflict with the stand point, most pro meat people for exsample woulnt read a novel about vegitaran properganda and for the mostr part id say that would work backwards.
Athogh personly i prefer to read the arguments for both sides, as it gives you a far better standing when you want to make a case for ether.
Iakona
31-10-2005, 11:34 PM
Personally i dont care... They taste good.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:34 PM
An egg should do, since it is everything needed to form a chicken, just baring fertilsition? so it is like eating a tiny chicken in its raw componets in a way "/
tofu is soy based, wich has been linked to causeing miscarrages in woman.
nuts are nuts, athogh there protean qualty is quite low "/
What is your point ?
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:35 PM
I do read books about this too, and I never read that being vegetarian is dangerous.
I didn't state that being a vegetarian is dangerous, I'm stating that being a vegearian, there are disadvantages to be consealed within your diet. I don't wish to carry on as you are just rambeling on about stuff which isn't needed at this time.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:36 PM
What is your point ?
primarly that an egg was like eating a chicken anyhow "/ its just the raw ingreadants lol.
I do read books about this too, and I never read that being vegetarian is dangerous.
Depends wich books you read, plus most people dont read books that conflict with the stand point, most pro meat people for exsample woulnt read a novel about vegitaran properganda and for the mostr part id say that would work backwards.
Athogh personly i prefer to read the arguments for both sides, as it gives you a far better standing when you want to make a case for ether.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:38 PM
I don't wish to carry on as you are just rambeling on about stuff which isn't needed at this time.
This is what the debate is about, I'm not rambeling on about stuff wich isn't needed o.O
primarly that an egg was like eating a chicken anyhow "/ its just the raw ingreadants lol.
You don't have to kill to eat an egg.
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:41 PM
You don't have to kill to eat an egg.
Dispite its appearance the egg is alive, not alive in the form of a chiken, but in the potenatly parts to make a chiken yes. You kill it when you boil it thogh "/
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:41 PM
This is what the debate is about, I'm not rambeling on about stuff wich isn't needed o.O
You are, your asking us all the questions when you havn't a knowledge yourself about most things that are discussed in this thread.
What is your point ?
^Try researching or atleast learn what it is that you are talking about, arguments and discussions need valid information from both sides which you are not achieving.
Your basically rambeling.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:42 PM
Dispite its appearance the egg is alive, not alive in the form of a chiken, but in the potenatly parts to make a chiken yes. You kill it when you boil it thogh "/
Nope, an egg isn't alive. I don't kill it when I boil it because it's just NOT alive.
If an egg isn't fertilised by a male, nothing will happen.
You are, your asking us all the questions when you havn't a knowledge yourself about most things that are discussed in this thread.
I'm just asking questions to prove that you're both wrong. I have lot more knowledge than you in this thread.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:44 PM
Nope, an egg isn't alive. I don't kill it when I boil it because it's just NOT alive.
If an egg isn't fertilised by a male, nothing will happen.
What about the egg inside? Yes it does need to be fertilised to begin the whole process of making a living being but in its current state, yes it is alive.
I'm just asking questions to prove that you're both wrong. I have lot more knowledge than you in this thread.
And thats why you've asked a whole bunch of questions? please advance...
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:45 PM
Nope, an egg isn't alive. I don't kill it when I boil it because it's just NOT alive.
If an egg isn't fertilised by a male, nothing will happen.
That dosnt change the fact its alive thogh, all the cells in the egg are working doing there job and fully alive, all it lacks is the instrutions (fertition) on how the egg can construt the chickin from itself.
Its not alive as an entity know, but it is as alive as your hand on its own, no it cant think of anything, but its still replaing itself growing, moveing blood around, pumping veins, moving mustles etc etc ?
As a queary about poll choises? seeing as KFC do have vegitarin options why dose it actaly have its own votes part?
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:50 PM
What about the egg inside? Yes it does need to be fertilised to begin the whole process of making a living being but in its current state, yes it is alive.
Do you know what is the definition of life ?
There is a few rules for something to be called "living".
It can moves by itself.
It can reproduces itself.
It can eat and/or drink.
It grows.
It can respond to an external stimulus.
The egg can't do anything of these rules.
As a queary about poll choises? seeing as KFC do have vegitarin options why dose it actaly have its own votes part?
To be even more precise
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Do you know what is the definition of life ?
There is a few rules for something to be called "living".
It can moves by itself.
It can reproduces itself.
It can eat and/or drink.
It grows.
It can respond to an external stimulus.
The egg can't do anything of these rules.
the egg cant as an enticaly, but componet wize it can, since there are billions of simple orgnaims and strutures ment for forming a chicken, they are cpable of indepenat servial, even if it be a a single cell level in some case, and repodcuting asexulay via mitosis "/
Athogh i have used this deffition type to make a point within many abortion debeats myself "/
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:54 PM
the egg cant as an enticaly
Period. There is not but. The egg just can't, it's NOT alive.
NekkLe
31-10-2005, 11:55 PM
Do you know what is the definition of life ?
There is a few rules for something to be called "living".
It can moves by itself.
It can reproduces itself.
It can eat and/or drink.
It grows.
It can respond to an external stimulus.
The egg can't do anything of these rules.
Aah, the life topic. So from slaughtering chickens to the rules of the beginning of life.
Cells, a living form of life that can duplicate itself into many others rebuilding a population of its own. Working, growing, consuming, moving as a living being would do.
I was talking about the actual egg inside, the egg that plays a key factor in fertillisation...Anyways, I could ramble for hours talking about this, sadly, I have no time left for this discussion. Good Nigh'.
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:56 PM
Good Nigh'.
Good night ;)
Mentor
31-10-2005, 11:57 PM
Period. There is not but. The egg just can't, it's NOT alive.
there is a but, since its the host to millions of LIVING things, wich are part of the egg, and indvidaly live in there own right, athogh its not created the final orgnaism, the live components still exist.
On that note this actal vear of on the debate is kinda pointless, so can we return to the primary topic... actaly as i cant rember what it was, the previos points made in this thread.
Also i may be going soon, tis late and im up early
ps. Byedly NekkLe
?WhyNot?
31-10-2005, 11:58 PM
there is a but, since its the host to millions of LIVING things, wich are part of the egg, and indvidaly live in there own right, athogh its not created the final orgnaism, the live components still exist.
On that note this actal vear of on the debate is kinda pointless, so can we return to the primary topic... actaly as i cant rember what it was, the previos points made in this thread.
Also i may be going soon, tis late and im up early
Will the egg ever grow up ? Reproduce itself ?! NO WAY.
Greed
31-10-2005, 11:59 PM
No matter what, people are going to consume chickens, though I am agaisn't it I still eat meat.
Mentor
01-11-2005, 12:01 AM
Will the egg ever grow up ? Reproduce itself ?! NO WAY.
On your logic, if i had a barrle of fish, the fish dont count as alive, becuse the barrle isnt?
No matter what, people are going to consume chickens, though I am agaisn't it I still eat meat.
Indeed they are, and i still do not see any valid reason for being agsiast it?
?WhyNot?
01-11-2005, 12:01 AM
Anyway, I got to go now. I will only come back tomorrow.
It was nice to debate with you, take care.
Mentor
01-11-2005, 12:02 AM
Anyway, I got to go now. I will only come back tomorrow.
It was nice to debate with you, take care.
Ok, i agree good debate, carry on tommro then? lol :D Bye, ill probably be off now two :D
Greed
01-11-2005, 12:03 AM
Its the way the chickens are treated before they are slaughtered, though slaughtering animals for consumption is legal...
But treating them unfaily like in the Pamela Anderson Vid, kind of gives the reason why.
RedStratocas
01-11-2005, 12:06 AM
I never liked KFC. But you vegitarians, dont act like you are right and all non vegitarians are evil:rolleyes:. Its cruel, but they have been fired and it hasent always been like that.
ChloeDust
01-11-2005, 12:35 AM
Yeh this doesn't put me off eating chicken, or any meat of that matter, i love meat =P but what they do to those chickens (For KFC) is not nice, and yeh it should be changed. But anyways i never eat KFC anyways, it tastes gross, the food is too greasy and it's just eugh.
?WhyNot?
01-11-2005, 03:05 AM
I never liked KFC. But you vegitarians, dont act like you are right and all non vegitarians are evil:rolleyes:. Its cruel, but they have been fired and it hasent always been like that.
Where did I say that non-vegetarians are evil ? All my friends are non-vegetarians, and they aren't evil. I don't have a vegetarian "gang" :rolleyes:
?WhyNot?
01-11-2005, 03:39 AM
Ok, sorry for the double post, but I couldn't edit.
You wanted researches ? Here is some websites.
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm - The iron in vegetarian diet
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm - The proteins in vegetarian diet
http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBJulAug00p131.html - Good article that says that vegeratians can grow up normally.
http://www.shedrupling.org/resource/base.php?lang=en&topic1=vegetar.htm&topic2=barre.htm&topic3=teter.htm - Read the yellow part
Here is a few quotes if you don't want to bother reading :
No discussion of vegetarian diets for children would be complete without mentioning iron. Iron deficiency anemia is the most common nutritional deficiency in America. It can affect children regardless of whether they are vegetarian or not (Messina and Messina 183-86). Still, the stereotype of vegetarian children as thin, weak, and pale (all symptoms of anemia) persists. In fact, though meat is the best source of absorbable iron, iron can be found in abundance in plant foods like enriched grains, dried fruits, soy products, broccoli, beans, and nuts. If foods high in iron are served with vitamin C-rich foods or drinks (e.g., orange juice, cantaloupe, strawberries, bell peppers, or watermelon) absorption is greatly improved.
It is now scientifically demonstrated (studies of the American Dietetic Association) that to be vegetarian allows for a longer life, better health, while being a lower charge for society, especially at retirement time. The concept as what to be vegetarian would make us weak, or would compromise the children growth, is only phantasm or prejudice, which does not have any other justification than ideological.
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