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?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 12:00 AM
Ok, the thread about KFC got closed because I reported it when it started to turn really bad, with a lot of arguing and pointless posts. Anyway, the debate wasn't why I posted the thread. I just want to say that the videos are fake, and I'm really sorry to anybody who thought it was true. Actually, I'm one of them. Thanks to Mentor for proving us that the videos were fake.
So Mentor and a few people think that vegetarians are weak and don't eat enough proteins and iron. I think it's NOT true, as I'm vegetarian and I'm not weak. Before the thread got closed, I was giving websites about some facts about vegetarians.
Ok, sorry for the double post, but I couldn't edit.
You wanted researches ? Here is some websites.
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm - The iron in vegetarian diet
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm - The proteins in vegetarian diet
http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBJulAug00p131.html - Good article that says that vegeratians can grow up normally.
http://www.shedrupling.org/resource/...pic3=teter.htm - Read the yellow part
Here is a few quotes if you don't want to bother reading :
No discussion of vegetarian diets for children would be complete without mentioning iron. Iron deficiency anemia is the most common nutritional deficiency in America. It can affect children regardless of whether they are vegetarian or not (Messina and Messina 183-86). Still, the stereotype of vegetarian children as thin, weak, and pale (all symptoms of anemia) persists. In fact, though meat is the best source of absorbable iron, iron can be found in abundance in plant foods like enriched grains, dried fruits, soy products, broccoli, beans, and nuts. If foods high in iron are served with vitamin C-rich foods or drinks (e.g., orange juice, cantaloupe, strawberries, bell peppers, or watermelon) absorption is greatly improved.
It is now scientifically demonstrated (studies of the American Dietetic Association) that to be vegetarian allows for a longer life, better health, while being a lower charge for society, especially at retirement time. The concept as what to be vegetarian would make us weak, or would compromise the children growth, is only phantasm or prejudice, which does not have any other justification than ideological.
I invite everybody to enter the debate.
P.S.: The old thread : http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=106909 (11 pages, good luck ;))
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 12:04 AM
how do you know its fake
Peta made the website, visit http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ =/...
And by the way, try to stay on topic ;)
Greed
02-11-2005, 12:05 AM
Actually Mentor is completely wrong, Vegetarians are strong the vitamins and other nutrients we need are found everywhere in plants, pill forms, and other non-meat-by-products.
So he needs to do a little catching up on human anatomy and phisiology/biology.
I think vegetarians or people who try to cut back on meat are even healthier.
Diabetic people who don't have sugar-ie foods (even though we need sugar) are healthy.
Though I am not a vegetarian myself I tend to cut back on meat foods but I can't resist the temptation.
Uhh... Yeah that KFC place is wrong, Unlike other fast food places who buy there food commercialy by companys, not that they own their own slaughter house.
Mentor
02-11-2005, 12:15 AM
Actually Mentor is completely wrong, Vegetarians are strong the vitamins and other nutrients we need are found everywhere in plants, pill forms, and other non-meat-by-products.
So he needs to do a little catching up on human anatomy and phisiology/biology.
pssssst, proteans and vitimans arnt the same thing. Phraps you need to do a little catching up on the food groups.
also, pills arnt natraly occuring :s and athogh some nuts etc contaiun proteans it is very low grade protean "/
I think vegetarians or people who try to cut back on meat are even healthier.
Diabetic people who don't have sugar-ie foods (even though we need sugar) are healthy.
Though I am not a vegetarian myself I tend to cut back on meat foods but I can't resist the temptation.
Uhh... Yeah that KFC place is wrong, Unlike other fast food places who buy there food commercialy by companys, not that they own their own slaughter house.
I have both exsprince, logic and many infomatianl sorces wich give me my opionon veigtans are not heathryer and are weeker? what are you basing yours on?
On a prior debate topic, Your aware that Insulin is a result of animal testing? and before that was exstrated directly from animals, so if you didnt allow the killing of animals or what resulted from them, they realy woulnt be to helathy "/
And i dont eat meat simply threw week will, i eat it becuse its needed for optimal biological function, we eveolved to eat it, athogh techialy we are best suted out of everything for fish, wich we have many obvios adaptions for, eg our noses wich allow us to swim, are becuse of are reliance on fish as food at one point "/
And Yes FISH is a meat in case your one of those strange vegitarans who somehow thinks theres a diffence "/
I can think of anyone at all, who is both vegaitan and in any spetcalar amount of health "/
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 12:19 AM
Mentor, could you pay attention about the websites ? Thanks :)
Greed
02-11-2005, 12:22 AM
Mentor, could you pay attention about the websites ? Thanks :)
Does he always type like that? Its hard to read his typing.
(not you WhyNot)
Mentor
02-11-2005, 12:23 AM
Mentor, could you pay attention about the websites ? Thanks :)
Im to lazy to read threw a tone of pointless properganda wich has rougly 1 sences of true and useful infomatuon per page on them "/
Id rather stick to unbyassed sorces, or at least sorces wich hold some weight as in were writen by someone who has the slightisted clue what there on about, nutritonist etc. if you just want properganda, u can get a more aless infiate amount of websites on wich the other load of people are idiots and there right, wich are the type i class as pointless "/
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 12:24 AM
Does he always type like that? Its hard to read his typing.
(not you WhyNot)
Well, the debate isn't about someone's spelling...
Yes, but I'm still able to read.
Im to lazy to read threw a tone of pointless properganda wich has rougly 1 sences of true and useful infomatuon per page on them "/
Id rather stick to unbyassed sorces, or at least sorces wich hold some weight as in were writen by someone who has the slightisted clue what there on about, nutritonist etc. if you just want properganda, u can get a more aless infiate amount of websites on wich the other load of people are idiots and there right, wich are the type i class as pointless "/
Well, do you have any of these to show me ?
Mentor
02-11-2005, 12:26 AM
Well, do you have any of these to show me ?
Unbyass sorces, aka govmental nutalal advice websites, ones containg infomation form actal nutronists and human bioligistes etc, or the pointless properganda?
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 12:27 AM
Unbyass sorces, aka govmental nutalal advice websites, ones containg infomation form actal nutronists and human bioligistes etc, or the pointless properganda?
Lol, not the pointless properganada, the other thing.
P.S.: I'll be back in about 3 hours =/
Mentor
02-11-2005, 12:32 AM
ok, ill probaly have gone then, since i need to catch up on some sleep, since i nearly fell asleeep in computing today lol "/
anyway i mean gov based ones
http://www.food.gov.uk/healthiereating/
http://www.sacn.gov.uk/
or amercan based ones
http://www.consumer.gov/food.htm
http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/
(some just came from google as exsamples, so i havent read much of it, and even then only skimmed it from most of them)
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 02:13 AM
You're just giving me websites like that, they don't even talk about vegetarian diet. I could give websites about nutrition but not talking about vegetarian diet too, but what would be the point ? At least I gave you sites that talk about the debate, even if they don't talk about specialist people.
RedStratocas
02-11-2005, 02:52 AM
I agree with mentor. Pills arent "Natural". ANY time you have to take a pill, its unnatural. What if they didnt take pills?
And WhyNot?, stop acting like a mod, its kinda annoying:rolleyes:
And Yes FISH is a meat in case your one of those strange vegitarans who somehow thinks theres a diffence "/
If they dont have facial expressions, they arent living:P
doraemonkiller
02-11-2005, 03:06 AM
i'm vegetarian
eat animal easy to get cancer
eat vegetarian if you want longer life, better health
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 03:13 AM
And WhyNot?, stop acting like a mod, its kinda annoying:rolleyes:
Hmm... When did I act like a mod ? I didn't notice. Maybe if you give me some examples, I'll understand.
doraemonkiller
02-11-2005, 03:22 AM
i'm vegetarian but i dint eat pill
i can run very fast :D
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 03:32 AM
i can run very fast :D
Yes me too, vegetarians aren't weak at all. Mentor is completely wrong.
What if they didnt take pills?
Who told you that vegetarians take pills ? I don't take pills... :rolleyes: And I'm still healty !
TealArms
02-11-2005, 03:41 PM
ye u can live without meat without taking pills, i do eat eggs milk and stuff
Mentor
02-11-2005, 07:06 PM
You're just giving me websites like that, they don't even talk about vegetarian diet. I could give websites about nutrition but not talking about vegetarian diet too, but what would be the point ? At least I gave you sites that talk about the debate, even if they don't talk about specialist people.
Becuse its info on a health diet, you notice how they all include a balence, and not just vegitaranism. They give advice on what is heathy to eat, not what isnt "/
i'm vegetarian
eat animal easy to get cancer
eat vegetarian if you want longer life, better health
1. Theres no link between eating meat and getting canser, athogh there are links between high soi(vegitaan) diets and miscarrages.
And There is no vegtarn who even comes close to being one of the oldest people, even remotly? so wheres the logic to that?
Or are you going on the steriotype that there active longer?
Yet at 100 years old, there is still a Practising surgen in china who is healther than most 50 year olds, who also isnt a vegitaran "/
i'm vegetarian but i dint eat pill
i can run very fast :D
Good for you :rolleyes:
Who told you that vegetarians take pills ? I don't take pills... And I'm still healty !
lmao, it was actalty you who told me that one?
Im also heathy and not a vegiran so whats the pointer to vegitranism being heather?
Eamonn
02-11-2005, 07:08 PM
Actually Mentor is completely wrong, Vegetarians are strong the vitamins and other nutrients we need are found everywhere in plants, pill forms, and other non-meat-by-products.
So he needs to do a little catching up on human anatomy and phisiology/biology.
I think vegetarians or people who try to cut back on meat are even healthier.
Diabetic people who don't have sugar-ie foods (even though we need sugar) are healthy.
Though I am not a vegetarian myself I tend to cut back on meat foods but I can't resist the temptation.
Uhh... Yeah that KFC place is wrong, Unlike other fast food places who buy there food commercialy by companys, not that they own their own slaughter house.
Thats a load of bull diabetics do have sugar my sister has alot of it too much xD , because if they did'nt have sugar why would they inject? :$
Dimebag
02-11-2005, 07:09 PM
Vegetarians... No thanks. It's all very silly... Burton-x was raised one, now even looking at ham makes him feel sick, how messed up is that?!
TealArms
02-11-2005, 07:09 PM
Becuse its info on a health diet, you notice how they all include a balence, and not just vegitaranism. They give advice on what is heathy to eat, not what isnt "/
1. Theres no link between eating meat and getting canser, athogh there are links between high soi(vegitaan) diets and miscarrages.
And There is no vegtarn who even comes close to being one of the oldest people, even remotly? so wheres the logic to that?
Or are you going on the steriotype that there active longer?
Yet at 100 years old, there is still a Practising surgen in china who is healther than most 50 year olds, who also isnt a vegitaran "/
Good for you :rolleyes:
lmao, it was actalty you who told me that one?
Im also heathy and not a vegiran so whats the pointer to vegitranism being heather?
just cos he aint vegi don't mean he is not healthy
Thats a load of bull diabetics do have sugar my sister has alot of it too much xD , because if they did'nt have sugar why would they inject? :$
Well said bbz x
xhannx
02-11-2005, 07:53 PM
I haven't really read any part except the first one and I'd like to say I disagree with Mentor, I, myself, am a vegetarian [So posh lmao] and i'm perfect in health.
I'd like to say that without meat you have
1. Less chance of cancer
2. Less chance of getting fat
3. Less chance of getting diseases
Though you may think your healthier, your actually alot LESS healthier, because the animals may not be healthy in the first place. Also meat gets alot of grease which isn't really healthy.
There is alot of things out there for vegetarians
Trust, because I HATE vegetable and I can only JUST down broccoli!
And I'm a strict vegetarian
I don't eat fish/gelatin like some 'vegetarians' do
There is things like
"Quorn" and "Linda Mcartney" Which is fake meat which builds you with LOTS of protein, you can also get protein in cheese, milk, yoghurt, things like that.
Now I am happy, healthy, and alot skinnier
and I feel SO much better because...
WHY THE HECK should animals be killed for our eating pleasure?
Dimebag
02-11-2005, 07:56 PM
I'd like to say that without meat you have
1. Less chance of cancer HUH?
2. Less chance of getting fat NO
3. Less chance of getting diseases PFFFT
WHY THE HECK should animals be killed for our eating pleasure? BECAUSE THAT' S HOW NATURE WORKS. WHY DO LEOPARDS KILL GAZELLE... TO EAT THEM!
:D
xhannx
02-11-2005, 08:02 PM
But they shouldn't... animals are just like humans, you only get one chance to live. and its wasted cause were greedy... :rolleyes: That makes sense
And yes yoo DO have less chance of getting cancer. I have no idea why but facts say so ...
And less chance of getting fat
Why the heck do you think they fatten them up! TO GET A NICE FAT ONE then you EAT all that fat an voila! Its not that hard to work out...
nd yes Less chance of disease... How can yoo be so shure the animal wasn't unwell to start with... It wouldn't be killer disease but vegetarianess certainly highly improves your health :)
I support veggies, if you eat healthier you taste better! ;)
xhannx
02-11-2005, 08:25 PM
Good on yoo (I would say LOL, but looking at yoor siggy, Just for yoo) Lmao! :d
brodeo
02-11-2005, 08:43 PM
Ok, i'm not a vegetarian, i like meat too much. First of all, hann, you don;t have less chance of getting cancer being a veggie, you contradicted yourself, you said - "I have no idea why but facts say so." Let me see these facts :) Eh? Yes, meat contains fat, as does milk, cheese and other dairy products which you admitted to eating. And there is a nearly nill chance you will get disease, i mean, the meat is cleaned, then frozen, then cooked at a high temperature. Yes, you can get salmonella, but that's from inpreperation of your meat.
And i was wondering. Many veggies don't eat meat because of the conditions it's kept in. I eat free range meat, heck it costs a lot but i still know my chicken roamed a field, didn't eat food to make it fat, and had a chew toy to play with (it said on the packet :o). Where as your dairy products, who said your cow wasn't kept in a shed and fed on foods to make it produce more milk. There is no guarentee on a milk bottle.
Sorry rant over. Mentor has already proved that veggies are equal, or less healthier than meat eaters. I mean, fgs, heard of the food chain? *starts ranting again* - We, humans, are designed to eat meat AND vegtables, look how we are designed. If we were designed to eat just veggies we would have much more molars than other teeth to crunch, but we don't. Few (maybe no?) mammals are just vegetarians.
I'm not against veggies, my best friend is a veggie, but when somebody turns around and says i don;t eat meat so i'm healthy that ticks me off.
And for the record, being good at running has nothing to do with this whole topic - so you have a good structure, i bet you've always been like that, i bet you didn't suddenly turn muscley like popeye when he ate spinache.
Rant over. I don't think anyone will change their mind about eating anything so we should definitly stop convincing each other to become veggies/meaties. Sorry for being offensive to veggies, i wub you really, i do...
Good on yoo (I would say LOL, but looking at yoor siggy, Just for yoo) Lmao! :d
Lmao :p
GoldenBiscuit
02-11-2005, 09:04 PM
just cos he aint vegi don't mean he is not healthy
Aslong as they watch there protein levels, being a Vegi is very healthy. :)
RedStratocas
02-11-2005, 09:05 PM
i'm vegetarian
eat animal easy to get cancer
eat vegetarian if you want longer life, better health
The sun gives you cancer too. Stay inside all day. X-rays can give you cancer. Dont go to the doctor. Everything gives you cancer basicly. Orange juice, yes, orange juice gives you cancer.
And what if you are miserable without meat? What if meat makes you happy? It would make a long, miserable life. I would much rather have a regular length happy life than a slightly longer miserable life.
And eat we should eat vegitarians? Thats worse than meat eating, thats canniblism.:P And what, are you recruiting people to be vegitarians or something?
Bradd-Aaron
02-11-2005, 09:08 PM
pssssst, proteans and vitimans arnt the same thing. Phraps you need to do a little catching up on the food groups.
also, pills arnt natraly occuring :s and athogh some nuts etc contaiun proteans it is very low grade protean "/
I have both exsprince, logic and many infomatianl sorces wich give me my opionon veigtans are not heathryer and are weeker? what are you basing yours on?
On a prior debate topic, Your aware that Insulin is a result of animal testing? and before that was exstrated directly from animals, so if you didnt allow the killing of animals or what resulted from them, they realy woulnt be to helathy "/
And i dont eat meat simply threw week will, i eat it becuse its needed for optimal biological function, we eveolved to eat it, athogh techialy we are best suted out of everything for fish, wich we have many obvios adaptions for, eg our noses wich allow us to swim, are becuse of are reliance on fish as food at one point "/
And Yes FISH is a meat in case your one of those strange vegitarans who somehow thinks theres a diffence "/
I can think of anyone at all, who is both vegaitan and in any spetcalar amount of health "/
Wrong. MY mother is a doctor and In her body book Its says "Vegatarians are more likely to be healthy than un-healthy.
Also if we were born to eat meat ONLY we would have very sharp teeth like lions we have insciors that we have evolved form evouloution.
I haven't really read any part except the first one and I'd like to say I disagree with Mentor, I, myself, am a vegetarian [So posh lmao] and i'm perfect in health.
I'd like to say that without meat you have
1. Less chance of cancer
2. Less chance of getting fat
3. Less chance of getting diseases
Though you may think your healthier, your actually alot LESS healthier, because the animals may not be healthy in the first place. Also meat gets alot of grease which isn't really healthy.
There is alot of things out there for vegetarians
Trust, because I HATE vegetable and I can only JUST down broccoli!
And I'm a strict vegetarian
I don't eat fish/gelatin like some 'vegetarians' do
There is things like
"Quorn" and "Linda Mcartney" Which is fake meat which builds you with LOTS of protein, you can also get protein in cheese, milk, yoghurt, things like that.
Now I am happy, healthy, and alot skinnier
and I feel SO much better because...
WHY THE HECK should animals be killed for our eating pleasure?
1) Less chance of getting cancer - Has this been scientifically proven? I've not really heard of this, so unless it has been scientifically proven, don't use it because it isn't a valid fact. If it is, well, ok :p
2) Less chance of getting fat - Uhm, meat doesn't really make you fat anyway does it? Anyway as long as you excersise well and don't just eat rubbish you shouldn't get fat anyway
3) Less chance of getting diseases - The only diseases I can think of by eating meat are food poisoning, so basically if you cook your meat properly you should be fine.
But whatever, if you want to be vegitarian that's your choice, I'm not really bothered :p
GoldenBiscuit
02-11-2005, 09:12 PM
My cousin is vegi and her step sister chases her with cold meat; is pritty harsh but funny. :)
Jesus-Egg
02-11-2005, 09:18 PM
animals are just like humans, you only get one chance to live. and its wasted cause were greedy
Humans eat food to survive. How does eating meat to survive make you greedy, and eating plants not make you greedy? And killing an animal for food is not wasting its life. It is being used to allow other animals to live.
I'd like to say that without meat you have
1. Less chance of cancer
If you eat meat a couple of times a week, you'll be fine. It's only if you eat too much red meat, the chances of you getting cancer will increase.
Why the heck do you think they fatten them up! TO GET A NICE FAT ONE then you EAT all that fat an voila!
Yes, meat contains fat. But, as part of a balanced diet, you need to eat fat. Besides, eating proper meat won't make much difference to how fat you are; it's eating a diet of processed, fast food :rude: with tonnes of salt and sugar that'll make you fat.
Mentor
02-11-2005, 09:52 PM
Wrong. MY mother is a doctor and In her body book Its says "Vegatarians are more likely to be healthy than un-healthy.
Also if we were born to eat meat ONLY we would have very sharp teeth like lions we have insciors that we have evolved form evouloution.
Not a book =.= u know i can get books telling you how the moons made out of cheese? the book has to be writen by people, who aint taht relible.
Plus *** no one here says were carnivors, were omnovrs we eat BOTH, its unhgeathry to JUST eat meat, and unhelathy to JUST eat veg
If you eat meat a couple of times a week, you'll be fine. It's only if you eat too much red meat, the chances of you getting cancer will increase.
Actaly theres no proven link, its about as true as the mmr causeing autism.
Yes, meat contains fat. But, as part of a balanced diet, you need to eat fat. Besides, eating proper meat won't make much difference to how fat you are; it's eating a diet of processed, fast food :rude: with tonnes of salt and sugar that'll make you fat.
Agreed.
I haven't really read any part except the first one and I'd like to say I disagree with Mentor, I, myself, am a vegetarian [So posh lmao] and i'm perfect in health.
1. Less chance of cancer - Not proven nore remotly likly to be true
2. Less chance of getting fat - complty disproven, actaly do to gas levels vegitarans are MORE likly to appear far even thogh being less in weight, mainly becuse thers far less mustle groth and more actal FAT wich weights less.
3. Less chance of getting diseases - That one you just made up lol, complte and utter bull****e
Though you may think your healthier, your actually alot LESS healthier, because the animals may not be healthy in the first place. Also meat gets alot of grease which isn't really healthy.
There is alot of things out there for vegetarians
Trust, because I HATE vegetable and I can only JUST down broccoli!
And I'm a strict vegetarian
I don't eat fish/gelatin like some 'vegetarians' do
There is things like
"Quorn" and "Linda Mcartney" Which is fake meat which builds you with LOTS of protein, you can also get protein in cheese, milk, yoghurt, things like that.
Quarn is also has the msot people alleric to it out of any food, as well as possible liks to casueing canser, well supoose only the same as meat does, but u belived that ok.
Fish, is the most heathy thing a human can possibly eat, We are perfectly adapted to eat it, since it has been a primory socres of food for a VERY long time.
And Unlikly for two reasons. if i went to a butecher i could get veyr high qualty meat and know its sorce.
If i went for mass produced stuff there are strick heath systems in place, sick animals are removed and quarteaned, and many chemicals are used for setialtuion purposes becuse of this "/
and greese refers to alot of things, some heathy some deadly, wana be more persifci?
Now I am happy, healthy, and alot skinnier
and I feel SO much better because...
WHY THE HECK should animals be killed for our eating pleasure?
Wow, im perfectly heathy, never had a weight problem, and waight have always eaten meat, and quite alot of it, and quite fatty foods at that "/
Dosnt fit does it.
Becuse if we didnt the animals would ALL die. We are a Preditor. Just like EVERY other animal. We keep the popualtions of lower animals down, plus we get the required foods easly.
Its how nature works "/
But they shouldn't... animals are just like humans, you only get one chance to live. and its wasted cause were greedy... :rolleyes: That makes sense
No there not? not even remotkly, there non consnsuis, none aware and if we dont eat them somthing else will? plus that in tren will eat a load of other things as well.
And yes yoo DO have less chance of getting cancer. I have no idea why but facts say so ...
And less chance of getting fat
Both compleat bull **** and not even remotly related to any facts or edvicane.
Why the heck do you think they fatten them up! TO GET A NICE FAT ONE then you EAT all that fat an voila! Its not that hard to work out...
nd yes Less chance of disease... How can yoo be so shure the animal wasn't unwell to start with... It wouldn't be killer disease but vegetarianess certainly highly improves your health :)
Simple soultuon, Kill your own food if its that much of a worry to you "/
Corn syrup the big fattener is the same as the sugar substute used in all fizzy driunks, there fat as there blood eating the same stuff the chickens eat. A rabbit isnt made of carrots, even thogh it may have eaten them is it =.=
Ok, i'm not a vegetarian, i like meat too much. First of all, hann, you don;t have less chance of getting cancer being a veggie, you contradicted yourself, you said - "I have no idea why but facts say so." Let me see these facts :) Eh? Yes, meat contains fat, as does milk, cheese and other dairy products which you admitted to eating. And there is a nearly nill chance you will get disease, i mean, the meat is cleaned, then frozen, then cooked at a high temperature. Yes, you can get salmonella, but that's from inpreperation of your meat.
And i was wondering. Many veggies don't eat meat because of the conditions it's kept in. I eat free range meat, heck it costs a lot but i still know my chicken roamed a field, didn't eat food to make it fat, and had a chew toy to play with (it said on the packet :o). Where as your dairy products, who said your cow wasn't kept in a shed and fed on foods to make it produce more milk. There is no guarentee on a milk bottle.
Sorry rant over. Mentor has already proved that veggies are equal, or less healthier than meat eaters. I mean, fgs, heard of the food chain? *starts ranting again* - We, humans, are designed to eat meat AND vegtables, look how we are designed. If we were designed to eat just veggies we would have much more molars than other teeth to crunch, but we don't. Few (maybe no?) mammals are just vegetarians.
I'm not against veggies, my best friend is a veggie, but when somebody turns around and says i don;t eat meat so i'm healthy that ticks me off.
And for the record, being good at running has nothing to do with this whole topic - so you have a good structure, i bet you've always been like that, i bet you didn't suddenly turn muscley like popeye when he ate spinache.
Rant over. I don't think anyone will change their mind about eating anything so we should definitly stop convincing each other to become veggies/meaties. Sorry for being offensive to veggies, i wub you really, i do...
QFT :D
Loaned
02-11-2005, 10:16 PM
I'm not even going to bother reading this.
You care about animal rights? Go into the jungle and tell those predators to stop killing the smaller animals.
It's called the food chain.
Loaned
02-11-2005, 10:51 PM
ye u can live without meat without taking pills, i do eat eggs milk and stuff
Vegetarians started with equal rights. You are a vegetarian, but you eat and drink animal products? (Milk and eggs) You complain about KFC, Burger King, McDonalds, but do you realised that the animals may be abused at the milking plank?
~Hilton~
02-11-2005, 11:19 PM
Vegetarians are nuts
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 11:19 PM
Becuse its info on a health diet, you notice how they all include a balence, and not just vegitaranism. They give advice on what is heathy to eat, not what isnt "/
If I would like to have information about the health, I would have called this thread "Alimentation health", but this is a thread about vegetarianism, not health.
Vegetarians are nuts
Excuse me ? Wow, what an awesome argument ! This is a debate -.-"
Eamonn
02-11-2005, 11:19 PM
The sun gives you cancer too. Stay inside all day. X-rays can give you cancer. Dont go to the doctor. Everything gives you cancer basicly. Orange juice, yes, orange juice gives you cancer.
And what if you are miserable without meat? What if meat makes you happy? It would make a long, miserable life. I would much rather have a regular length happy life than a slightly longer miserable life.
And eat we should eat vegitarians? Thats worse than meat eating, thats canniblism.:P And what, are you recruiting people to be vegitarians or something?
Omgs and chips give you cancer lols , and none of you would be alive today if people did'nt eat meat , so just go die kks you little vegi's with your pathetic excuse for burgers called vegi burgers :$
?WhyNot?
02-11-2005, 11:22 PM
Omgs and chips give you cancer lols , and none of you would be alive today if people did'nt eat meat , so just go die kks you little vegi's with your pathetic excuse for burgers called vegi burgers :$
Vegie burgers are discusting, I can't even eat them. I don't find them good at all.
Eamonn
02-11-2005, 11:24 PM
Did i say you liked them , did i ask if you liked them , do i even remotely care if you like them ? Et na :)
~Hilton~
02-11-2005, 11:24 PM
Excuse me ? Wow, what an awesome argument ! This is a debate -.-"
Geez dude, chill out. It's not like I personally made fun of you. I was just saying in general, that I think it is crazy to not yeat meat, because I prefer to eat that kind of food than not.
NekkLe
03-11-2005, 09:52 AM
Jebus!
Come on please, this debate is concluded from a past thread which was discussed and ended.
There isn't much difference between a Vegetarians health and a person who eats meat. All of us grow in our differences, our bodies need certain nutrients protiens etc.
I wouldn't say that Vegetarians are healthier than people who eat meat? To be healthy, your diet consists of both meat and fruit and vegetables.
Depending on who lives the longest is a matter of how healthy you are, being a vegetarian doesn't mean at all you will live longer than a person who eats meat? Thats a biased comment I think that 'helps' support those vegetarians. A person who eats meat is no different than one who doesn't. It varies on the consumptions you take.
Soya is processed from beans and mushrooms which are then made up into various meats such as 'Quorn meats e.g burgers and steaks' eurgh!
One question, what made you think about being a vegetarian? Why?
Mentor
03-11-2005, 06:52 PM
If I would like to have information about the health, I would have called this thread "Alimentation health", but this is a thread about vegetarianism, not health.
It is on the fact that there is no evidance that the vigtaran diet is heathery, and its not recommended by any foods standard agence but is adviced agaste by a few "/
GoldenBiscuit
03-11-2005, 07:01 PM
Bringing up vegatarians will obviously brig up the health issues aswell.
?WhyNot?
03-11-2005, 10:14 PM
It is on the fact that there is no evidance that the vigtaran diet is heathery, and its not recommended by any foods standard agence but is adviced agaste by a few "/
I NEVER said vegetarians are healthier than omnivores. I'm just saying that we are not less healthy, like you think.
NekkLe
03-11-2005, 10:16 PM
I NEVER said vegetarians are healthier than omnivores. I'm just saying that we are not less healthy, like you think.
He may not think that? research could show this maybe?
Biseinen
03-11-2005, 10:20 PM
Feed a man a piece of meat, he'll eat for a day... Teach a man to shoot cows, he'll be set for life. <3
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