Habbo - My Truth (originally posted on impetuous.net)

[la-ur-en]

Here is what i think about habbo:

Habbo is a very large co-orporation controlled by sulake, the more people they get, the more money the recieve... but what happens to when we buy credits, buy furniture then scammers get it, let me tell you what I THINK the whole plan is...

habbo was created in 2001, as you know not alot of scams were about then, there was hardly any habbos, or any furniture...
ask yourself, how did habbo become so popular?
well when ione sent presents (to hardly any people at that time there was hardly anybody on habbo) to the whole of the hotel, thats when people started coming in, when the first catalogue rare came out, the hotel had more than 2.000 people (at that time) signing in (which was alot)

the more rares they created the more habbos joined, but then, in 2002/3 scams were reported more than often, and why were such scams a relief to sulake well heres why...
if you think about it... scammers/hackers log into your account and steal your furniture, then you report to habbo, you get a reply a few days later asking questions, they then ask you for your ip address, then you get your password back... but when you sign back on whats one of the first things you do? BUY CREDITS, that means that the more scams the better...

heres a quick demonstration

say i bought 20 credits worth of furniture sulake would get £2
but if i got scammed sulake would still have that money...
then i got my password back and buy more credits £5
sulake are makin £7 and your only gettin £5 of that... thats a £2 profit they are making which isnt alot, but if you multiply that by the ammount of habbos in the hotel it is alot

the hotel is expensive to keep up and running but think about it logically, say there were 8,000 habbos - 5,000 habbos = 3,000 habbos get scammed each year
so above all if they spent £7 all together but only got £5 of that, sulake would be getting £21000 a year where as the habbos would be getting only £15,000 thats another £6,000 they are making as a profit (this is just a demonstration, i know there are more/less scams in the hotel and there are more habbos)

im not saying anything bad about sulake, but if it wasnt for scammers the hotel wouldnt be up and running, and im not saying i like scammers as i absoloutely hate them, but for some suspicious reason to me i think scamming is a whole marketing procedure!

if you understand what i meant by all this please comment

[Concentric]

i understand what you mean but i wouldn't say that scamming is part of sulakes plan. Also scamming makes people think "Oh well ive lost everything" and many will leave habbo, where they would have originally continued paying for credits ;)

[oldieboldie2.]

Hi all i think this a load of rubbish. sulake scamming? stupid!! ok say ur right y would ppl keep commin bck? :s

[TooClose$]

Habbohotel, is a happy, virtual community. It is YOUR choice to buy credits, therefore itis YOUR responsibility to look after your account and prevent scammers.
Sulake is a respected company, and i can assure you, there is no scamming involved.
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[Adzeh]

sulake are a major organisation who make thousands of punds (if not more) a day. they would not risk being shut down because they were deceiving people.

i can see what your saying, but think, as the number of habbos grow, the number of scammers would grow too. cause and effect.

as hacking and scripting technology advances, people would find it easier and easier to scam people. therefore more people would do it as it is seen as a fast cheap way to make furni.

before you go accusing sulake (or any other major organisation, made to make people happier) think about how you are going to do it and why.

most of the time when people get scammed it is there own fault. if they give pout their password, email address, birth day etc.. and they get scammed, its nobdys fault but theirs.

be safe. be carefull and nobody gets scammed.

thats the best advice.

[TheLostPara]

Honestly Sulake Dont Scam :)

[Simmzy]

Why would sulake scam?
Sulake are the people who work/fix/maintain the hotels, I don't see anything wrong with sulake at all, they make sure habbo is in top order. It's the staff/hobbas that are the problem for the various reasons I won't go into.

[GommeInc]

I have known for ages about Sulake only having Habbo to make money.

WHy else would Sulake not care when you have had you furni stolen, you are just another annoying customer to them.

[Concentric]

well of course Sulake is profit making company, thats the whole idea :eusa_wall
That doesn't mean that they dont care about their customers though, of course they want happy customers, thats how they make money.

[Lincognito]

I have known for ages about Sulake only having Habbo to make money.

WHy else would Sulake not care when you have had you furni stolen, you are just another annoying customer to them.

Good Grief !! Its a buisness what buisness doesn't need to make money? It costs a fortune to keep habbo up and running. Who do you think pays for the upkeep of it all, the designers the staff etc etc As for people losing furni well it is up to all individuals to take care of their accounts..if I told someone my bank pin number and they stole all my money do you think the bank would reimburse me for my carelss stupidity?? I think not!!
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[GommeInc]

Actually it is hard to get in a bank pin number as they will record when it was taken and the police will be informed and you will get the money back.

Also camera's are arround the machines now and sometimes infront so people will get a good look of the person, then he will get followed by other cameras in the area.

[Mentor]

Suzileke dont need scammer to make profit, they acn craet as many credits as they liek for nothing, and pople pay 10p for thease, each. that makes money, when tiems by all teh people buying its enoght to cover server cost and staff payment, as well as making suzlkae profit. if i dint they woudl have npo point in running habbo. scammer are bad for suzlkae, as they often sacre pople off and make poeple leave.

Concentric - Category Manager & Moderator
Please be careful with your spelling, all these mistakes make your message illegible.

[GommeInc]

Sulake only have Habbo Hotel to make money and do not care if people are hacked or scammed. If they did care wouldn't they do something about it like get a better server for habbo hotel that cant be hacked, no, I rest my case.

[Concentric]

If Habbo don't care about the safety and happiness of their customers then why do they hire hobbas and customer service staff?

[Mendonky]

this does actually raise an issue that may be starting to arise around the habbo hotel. scammers may be a big problem around the hotel, but these scammers do their "scamming" for their own personal gain.as many other members have said, sulake does not need them to further their buisiness. and scripters that are found by hobbas/ office staff are punished sevearly, and often perm banned. now would they be doing this if they were doin the "dirtywork" for sulake? i think not.

but one thing i would like to mention is perm banning. if u have spent loads of ur own well earnt money on habbo credits, and then get perm banned, u have paid for an extra servixce which has now been denied to you.

i think a representative from sulake should make an puplic announcement/ have a meeting with habbo hotel managers/ habbo official fansites to clear this issue for good.

[Lincognito]

this does actually raise an issue that may be starting to arise around the habbo hotel. scammers may be a big problem around the hotel, but these scammers do their "scamming" for their own personal gain.as many other members have said, sulake does not need them to further their buisiness. and scripters that are found by hobbas/ office staff are punished sevearly, and often perm banned. now would they be doing this if they were doin the "dirtywork" for sulake? i think not.

but one thing i would like to mention is perm banning. if u have spent loads of ur own well earnt money on habbo credits, and then get perm banned, u have paid for an extra servixce which has now been denied to you.

i think a representative from sulake should make an puplic announcement/ have a meeting with habbo hotel managers/ habbo official fansites to clear this issue for good.


All covered in Terms and Conditions. ;)

[GommeInc]

Sulake only have Hobba's to help out, thats why when you send them an e-mail they say go to Habbo Hotel and if you send another one they ban you, is that caring nope, called snobbism.

[la-ur-en]

Okay, i see all your points, some of them are good, some of them were just posted several times as a same answer...

what im saying is, sulake wouldn't make a profit without scammers okay look at this...
habbo just stop one more scam
they then bring out a new furni/accessory
scammers then find there way round the hotel way and are able to scam people.
sulake then are again making even more money, im not blaming it on sulake, im blaming it on the lot of them, if they really cared about people getting scammed, they wouldnt let people change there password on the site they would send letters/e-mails to parents to change the password...

someone said, 'Why would people come back?'
Because habbo is very addictive, people find it hard not to go back and make a new start, i've done it, and im sure alot of people around the hotel have done it...
i'm not asking for you to agree with me as im not saying i am correct, i am just raising the point so that you can understand where im coming from!

and as someone else said 'you're just another annoying customer to them'
If sulake didnt have so called 'annoying customers' they wouldn't even be running at the moment, as nobody would be able to prove points to them, so nothing would be improved...

i dont like the idea of scamming being part of sulakes plan, but at the start, there were hardly any scammers or scams, but then when they got rares alot of scams started happening... noticing that hotels grew into a wider range to suit some countrys that COULDN'T buy credits from .co.uk so that was also getting in sulakes way...
all im saying is, the more things that sulake created, the more scammers entered the hotel, so no wonder sulake made more hotels, they were making a profit out of it...

you may still disagree with me, but read both my posts again a few times, you may start to understand it then!

[GommeInc]

la-ur-en, you are an angel, i dont normally like angels so lets go with saint. You are someone that completely sees through Habbos Scam or Sulakes scam, if you send an e-mail to sulake saying you were banned or scammed they will automatically not care and direct you some where else and probably ban you from e-mailing them again.

If a scammer was to scam someone, then the habbo would hav to buy more credits which will mean Sulake will make more money, thats why they dont care and they will probably give you a job if you say' I have been scammed, I shall buy 1000 credits not j/k.

Also, Habbo Club, if you are perm banned on an account and you are one of these weirdo's that are so obsessed to buy another months prescription, they Sulake are again making profit, DOWN WITH SULAKE!

la-ur-en on a scale of 1-10, 10 being smart and 1 being dumby butt. You are a 9 in these forums.

[la-ur-en]

why thankyou, i just like trying to get the message across to people, as im sure alot of people have never thought of this before, but you cant always look at sulake being the goodys, and scammers being terrible, cause really they are just as bad as one another!

[Mentor]

techily speking encorging scammers woudl sacre away potental memebrs who would pay to buy credits, and once coverd teh serevs and staff pay evrythingni sprofit, and it doenst cot anything to craet as many creadit at are broght so id guess nerly 50 or more could be profit, wich mena sthey dffently dont need scammers help to be proitable as far as i can see.

[GommeInc]

Scammers arent to much to the blame of people getting scammed, it is the victim thats the idiot, why would you think you can get free credits and your password coming out as ****** honestly, dumbys,.

[G-flow]

Sorry but i really need help. where is the create thread sign??? plz reply to me

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[Jane]

When habbo first started, do you think sulake sat down and said " I know, we could make a profit by habbos being hacked, losing their account making another one and buying more credits! Isnt that great?!"
I think not. As someone has previously said, if you read the terms and conditions YOUR habbo = YOUR responsibility, which means if you are scammed it is technically your own fault as you should read faqs etc before you start to play on habbo, which clearly state many times there are no such thing as free credits, and also a list of scams.

[GommeInc]

Yay to Janeh, it is YOUR responisibility if you get scammed, when ever someone says I have been scammed i turn a blind eyes as it is THEIR fault not ours.

[la-ur-en]

It may be our responsibility, but scammers have there ways, and im not saying anything about scammers, im saying that if it wasnt for scammers the hotel wouldnt be running, JEEZ, please gonna read it properly before you reply as you are completely going off topic!

[Mentor]

It would be running lol, plus being scamed is u own falst, u cant be scamed unless u fool for somthing, commeon sence keeps u safe most the time, habbo amkes more than enogh money without scammers, ist true they dont chaneg how much habbo hotlkle, makes, but they scare away mebers, and that does affcet it.

[la-ur-en]

scammers first of all don't scare members, they intimidate them, which causes people to be more causious, but sometimes people dont always understand what the scam is and falls for it, i know habbo would still be running, but wouldnt be making as much of a profit, it may not cost money to make credits, but it costs money to make the furni and hc and things like that!

[Mentor]

no, it cost them nothing to do any of that, once its made, ist autmated, and cost ahbbo nothing, its origanl design is coverd by staff costs, its still all profit. intimteding memeber still tends to scrae peopel off wich mean slower prifits if less mebers, wich is why habbo hotel puts so much in to trying to get rid of them

[GommeInc]

la-ur-en, i have never been scammed, I scammed the scammer for asking for my account, he is now on perm ban muahahahahahaha.

[angry moe]

but this is a buisness u must remember so it's not sulakes fault if you get scammed so if what youre getting to is that if you get scammed sulakes going to give your money back i dont think so they have to make money no credits=no pay for habbo staff and i dont think they'd like that idea now would they.............

angry moe
quiksilver678

[GommeInc]

Why would they give you your money back, its the idiots that fell for it that are to blame, stupid idiots, there are enough warning and they still dont listen, idiots.

[la-ur-en]

no, it cost them nothing to do any of that, once its made, ist autmated, and cost ahbbo nothing, its origanl design is coverd by staff costs, its still all profit. intimteding memeber still tends to scrae peopel off wich mean slower prifits if less mebers, wich is why habbo hotel puts so much in to trying to get rid of them

Thanks, you completely just backed me up unknowingly

when you said 'it costs habbo nothing' that is another way of how they are scamming, they make us pay 10p for 1 credit...

I'm sorry, but people who are rich and buy alot of credits dont just leave the hotel cause of scammers, where as poor people with no credits and buy nothing wont matter to the hotel, as they are worthless anyway, they arnt getting scammed, and arnt buying credits

[Mentor]

thay art buying credits cuz they think they may get scamed, and the incres in sacmemrs means, when a meber who would have payed lots more havingb stayed on habbo, gets scammed and desides to leave.
say hpatheticy habbos costs £10 000 per year to run
Then afetr 7 montsh thyved made the 10 000, the next 5 months are pure profit, the more memebers the more money. the more scammers the less mebers taht acatly pay for there own funrni, meaning scammers means habbo makes less.

[Moose]

Hmm, i see how, habbo should make a gaurenteed or something if a habbo is scammed, so they can recieve there loss credits/coins, its only pixels, they won't lose anything.

[Mentor]

if they did that, habbos woulnt mind beings cammed, so effectibly ahbbo hotel would be makeing huge losses give free furni to the scammers

[Moose]

if they did that, habbos woulnt mind beings cammed, so effectibly ahbbo hotel would be makeing huge losses give free furni to the scammers

what kind of loss just pixels? the Staff or Mods would just Ip/safety ban the person who last logged on that account that was suppose-to-be scammed, i think thats a better idea than getting nothing when you just buy pixels.

[ullie]

I agree sulake are just trying to get more money. This is why they bring out old rares which should NEVER come out again. It clearly said when the rare was out "never to be sold again" Why cant they just make more rares? People are losing out on HC's. Take the hologirl, its worth 4 hcs when they bring it out again its gonna be 25 creds. Loads of people will lose 3 hcs worth that is £7.50.

[GommeInc]

I always laugh when someones says they've been scammed or hacked, they should learn to read everything, their fault not ours so dont give any donations to them...

[la-ur-en]

Thats a little mean is it not? lol

[GommeInc]

No, not really, they are warned time and time over, do not give your password out, do they listen no, their fault not mine, they should of known better.

[:kader]

Hi all i think this a load of rubbish. sulake scamming? stupid!! ok say ur right y would ppl keep commin bck? :s
Thats Her Point, Habbos Keep ******* Back Because Its A Highly Addictive Prospect With Lots To Do. I Mean I Spend Hours On it A Day, Ive Even Said To My Mates Laugh Out Loud When A Good Joke Is Cracked!

[GommeInc]

To me it was a addictive chat game, it is kinda boring and once you realise that furni dosnt exist and it is just pixels you get bored. I mainly go on it for the community aspects.

[Mentor]

Ita mainly a chat room, but stil a good one. i agree with the community aspct

[GommeInc]

Runescape is something you cant have as a community as you dont really own anything, like a room or in runescape terms a building.

Habbo you can have rooms but the furni isnt really yours.

[Mentor]

Runescape is something you cant have as a community as you dont really own anything, like a room or in runescape terms a building.

Habbo you can have rooms but the furni isnt really yours.
Actaly you can own houses and land in it. but you have to be a member to do that, plus it cost a rediculsy huge amount of gp

(or at least from where i am, im resonbly poor)

[GommeInc]

Hmmm, still not much of a community area though.

[BlackGarden]

Someone probably already said this, but Sulake would not benefit from scams. In a lot of cases, people probably get disheartened when they lose their Habbos and don't bother coming back. So Sulake needs to protect users from scams as best it can in order to keep users interested, and therefore maximise profits.

[GommeInc]

They do benefit from scams but if you think about it, do you think they will tell people to not buy credits because they maybe scammed later on?

[Mentor]

not realy, the benfift will be made if they get scamed or not, they gte payed wethere a scammer has teh furni or the buyere. all teh skamming does is make people to scared to buy more furni aka make less mony for suilake, wich is deffinatlyy not a benefit. thast hwy theye invets so much it stryoing to stop the scammers

[simondude]

wouldnt sulake scamming kindof be illegal? somehow it must be

[GommeInc]

True, but not all habbos think they will be scammed again or be scared to buy anymore furni from a scammer. I haven't been scammed as I am smart enough to know what to do etc but some Habbos may want to buy some more credits (profit for sulake) and then buy furni and they're happy again

[Mobs!]

lol u r one wierd chicken mi friend :P

[G-flow]

Ah the present i got was a throne lol! they were the good days!

[GommeInc]

Shame there will soon be no such things as Super rares, when the snowglobe is out for sale everything might follow other than the trophys and the typos.

[Mentor]

i acatlky think the puuting all teh super rairs in the catlog is a bit of a stupid move by habbo, becyuse people used ti spedn huge amiounts getting them, when there common they wil becone almost worthless.

anyway habbo has nothing to gain by scamming memebers, only stuff to lose

[la-ur-en]

Yet another smart move by sulake, if the furniture is released people will think 'OMG A SNOWGLOBE, THATS SOOO RARE' yet later they find out it has went down about 20x its starting price, so again, sulake is making a fortune by bringing out a rare that everyone wanted in the beggining, as they wouldnt have been earning alot when it was a super rare, because everyone would KNOW they would never get it as hardly any people they knew, actually hardly any people they didnt know had it either..

[nvrspk4]

Good Grief !! Its a buisness what buisness doesn't need to make money? It costs a fortune to keep habbo up and running. Who do you think pays for the upkeep of it all, the designers the staff etc etc As for people losing furni well it is up to all individuals to take care of their accounts..if I told someone my bank pin number and they stole all my money do you think the bank would reimburse me for my carelss stupidity?? I think not!!
:eusa_snoo

Hes right ya know. Sulake wouldn't scam anyway, that decreases customer satisfaction which=possible Bankruptcy

Also the'yre now a million/billion dollar company, they dont need to scam.

I seriously doubt that Sulake would spend its time scamming Habbos to make a few extra thousand pounds a year. Think of all the time it would take!

[Jacko2kn3]

Is it Sulakes fault you get scammed, or is it the person who got scammed for...
1) giving out their password
2) buying an account
3) downloading unsafe files housing keyloggers and other nasties.
among more

All these reasons are said by Sulake as "DON'T DO THEM"

It should be simple enough to follow them, why do so many people struggle?