VIP Badge override...Habbo's mistake costs many reindeer's badges!

[LewstherinII]

It seems the VIP badge's room override has led a few reindeer to enter the forbidden "Hobba room." Any reindeer who has done so has lost all badges except for HC, including any non-related reindeer ones!

Another slip-up on Habbos part...

So not only have they made the mistake of having NEW potential Hobba-room enterers and not telling them about consequences of entering AT ALL, they have taken away Habboween badges, etc that attributed to some of the Habbo's achievement.

Sorry to all the reindeer; but again, what's Callie going to do about it? Unless you're a bit of a staff pet...nothing :S

I admit that the Reindeer who lost badges have to have entered the room, but seriously, who began it? Habbo, as usual. Two reindeer who deny entering the room have lost badges too. (No names mentioned)

[Vix]

If they said don't go in the room or you'll lose your badge, then why did you?

[LewstherinII]

I didn't go in the room...and Habbo didn't tell anyone not to go in the room. I said many reindeer lost badges, including new ones.

[TwoWorlds]

it says dont enter so DUH they are muppets for doing it good on callie.

[Vix]

Habbo sent messages saying not to go in the room, but people still did, so it's evidently their fault.

[Evolution]

Habbo warned users that entering the room will mean their badges will be removed.

There was a mass alert saying "Anyone that is not a Hobba or Ex-Hobba and enters the Hobba ONLY public room, will have their badges removed."

[LewstherinII]

Unfair on Habbo's part to remove badges. Perhaps a 2 hour ban for not even BREAKING THE HABBO WAY would suffice.
And it was uncalled-for to take other badges.

[jamie_fellow]

Its there fault they enetered :p

[Barmi]

Taking their VIP badges I can understand, but taking other badges is harsh, yes.

And Sir Lews, you can't deny that this forum name is linked to your forum name, as the "...have lost badges too. (No names mentioned.)" sentance sort of gives it away.

[Slydog]

its compleatly wrong, say they came on habbo after the alert and saw the hobba room went inside and got there badge taken, just a kick and a message on the console would be anough but takin the badge is wrong.
in my opinion ;)

[JT-Fan]

So VIPS with elf and reindeer badges got all badges taken? Thats a bit wrong/

[Barmi]

Only the ones that were caught gatecrashing without a valid reason for doing so, yes. And that is applicable to all that went in either last night, or today. The individuals in question had all their badges taken, not just their VIP - so they could have lost Halloween, Reindeer, etc. A little unfair that they took all of them...

[Typpi]

well they sould read the desc before entering -.-

[Eckuii]

Callie already knew that the badges did this :S. She gave some people badges so they can host offical events e.t.c - If they get D.c they can get back in with there VIP badge.

[Typpi]

Callie already knew that the badges did this :S. She gave some people badges so they can host offical events e.t.c - If they get D.c they can get back in with there VIP badge.
well she thrusts kids too mcuh with them :D

[GommeInc]

Unfair on Habbo's part to remove badges. Perhaps a 2 hour ban for not even BREAKING THE HABBO WAY would suffice.
And it was uncalled-for to take other badges.
It is more easier just to remove them all. It is like giving out guns to a bunch of babies. Once one baby has shot something the others will follow. Plus removing the badges was a more better idea, it must be very tempting to enter that room.

[Barmi]

Eckuii, we are primarly on about the 18 of us who were given VIP badges yesterday, as that makes up the mass of those who were affected. I myself was not affected, same with others, providing there are mitigating circumstances...

Gomme, she didn't remove all VIP badges from everyone. She removed all the badges that that individual had, apart from HC.

[Typpi]

It is more easier just to remove them all. It is like giving out guns to a bunch of babies. Once one baby has shot something the others will follow. Plus removing the badges was a more better idea, it must be very tempting to enter that room.
lol compering a Gun with a VIP bagde :d

[Re101]

Their fault for entering but unfair on the ones who didnt

[Typpi]

Their fault for entering but unfair on the ones who didnt
well they have it in capitals HOBBAS AND EX HOBBAS ONLY!!!!!!!!!!! so its abit hard to miss it x.x

[Barmi]

re101, it's fair generally, because those who didn't enter didn't get VIP badges taken. The point he is trying to get across is that those who did get their VIP badges taken got their other ones taken aswell, such as reindeer, Halloween, etc.

[Typpi]

haha halloween bagdes removed?!?! -.-

[Barmi]

I don't know which of the people who had a VIP badge removed also has a Halloween badge... but if they did, yes, it would be removed also. ALL custom badges were taken from the offending Habbos, unless there were mitigating circumstances. Anyway, night. <3

[LewstherinII]

Yes MAD is right. Barmi, my "forum name is not linked to my forum name" again, please don't continue with this...
I told you before, you're the only one who seems to go on about it. I know LewstherinII, yes I admit it! We have discussed this, but would you say, give up a Habbo account with a few Rares on it just to start again because someone thinks I am the real person?
I USED to be a newbie that liked LewstherinII, and he accepts that. Why can't you?
I am sorry for involving other habbox viewers about this, but every time I try to post some good news, it seems Barmi likes to bring up a fairly non-existant issue, and Barmi, I am sorry I have to defend myself in public.

The issue with this is that yes, the reindeer + elves went in, I'm not sure if they knew that habbo had told them NOT to, but taking away badges such as Habboween and VIP, AND reindeer or elf badges, was wrong. Perhaps a two hour ban or a kick and an alert would be sufficiant.

[LewstherinII]

Okay, sorry didn't read all the pages.
Barmi, you bring up some good and quality postings there, and are one of the few on my side on this issue.
Thanks for that; but all other viewers please leave feedback on this. It's just one of the many mistakes Habbo has slipped up on, and it isn't liek giving guns out to babies, as an earlier poster would have us think.
First of all, not only did the people who got ALL their badges taken earned each and every one of them, whether it was being a resposible member of Habbo or auditioning and getting through by talent and punctuation skill, or winning competitions no one I repeat: NO ONE has the right to take them all due to an unclear incident that Habbo decided was wrong AFTER it happened. They had given VIP badges out without a word; and then took ALL badges back. Like I said, 2 hour ban and an alert, confiscation of the VIP badge, perhaps, but not when the Habbo, according to Habbo Hotel, has earned the right to wear that badge for the rest of that account's days.
As for the reindeer or elf badge loss, it was going soon anyway, but again, they earned the right to wear that badge for as long as everyone else, too. It's the principal of the matter.
Habbo says it punishes people for breaking the Way. Where in the Habbo Way does it say that you can't use a VIP badge given by Habbo to enter a room not formally forbidden BEFORE many VIPs were debadged hm?

[Antony]

I was a reindeer and i didnt enter the room However i did have a VIP badge at the time, when we were given Reindeer badges we couldn't get into full rooms, Both my reindeer and VIP badges were removed for no reason atall i didnt enter the New hobba room. I have emailed and messaged for info About the Reindeer Bagde but yes they do ignore.

[GommeInc]

Then comes the fact that it said "Hobbas and Ex Hobbas only". Unless you are proving your ignorance then I suggest you answer why these idiots went in when it says not to. They do not need a warning before hand, how would they do it anyway? A Hotel Alert would be pointless, some VIPs won't be online! If the room didn't have that description, this would be a whole bigger story, but it isn't. Some idiot who is to blame, who is a baby with a gun, who is also blind, descided to enter a room, when it clearly says not to.

There was also a warning sent globally to the hotel, a few minutes before they were removed. That even proves that they shouldn't of got in. So maybe there was a few more babies with a gun?

[Col]

I know for a fact that Fadingaway, NEVER entered the room. Causmo entered the room by mistake not knowing that he had a VIP badge. He must have recieved it that day, without knowing.

For the record, it wasn't just reindeers who lost their VIP badge.

[Aao]

HARSH! Halloween & Xmas badges are an achievement, you cant remove those! God, if i where hotel manager, i would just kick them from the room they entered, not freekin remove their badges.

[LewstherinII]

Exactly right, guys. I've been thinking about this too. I'd heard Fadingaway and Antony, the two reindeers I mentioned in the first post, had lost their badges for no reason.

The other reindeer and elves who went in have SOME blame, though Habbo is mostly responsible, GommeInc, get over the babies with guns because this is a different thing! This is not like a Hobba badge how we ban people with these badges - therfore rerference to guns are pointless. In fact, some power-hungry Hobbas have done far worse! Why do you think they become Hobbas? Habbo may go on about their great volunteers, doing work for nothing, but perhaps some do it because they have a power problem (Not All, but then again, not all reindeer went in the room). Not only did Habbo slip up and take ALL the badges of the Habbos that entered, but they removed two or more perfectly innocent Habbos' badges without reason. Again, when they slip up, they usually ignore people. These badges were earnt and I'd say you, Gomme, have never had one. If you look at the other posts, you'll find a hell of a lot more reasoning that you have.

You say:
A) The description had HOBBAS AND EX-HOBBAS ONLY. Regardless of the fact a few VIPs tried to get in for a bit of fun - note - not maliciously or for power - shows that HABBO gave them the rights to do it. What if a reindeer accidentally clicked it, as well?

B) "They knew about it through an alert they shouldn't have gone in" If the Habbos weren't online when the alert was given, Habbo didn't officially say to them 'this isn't allowed.'

C) Babies with guns? This has nothing to do with killing/banning other people. Your reference with guns SHOULD be to the VIPs hurting/demoting other people in some way, if your metaphor is correct. This hasn't happened. The Way has not been broken. And because of Habbo's error, which could have been rectified with a kick and a message, or even a small ban, now many VIPs lost not just their VIP badges, but others as well. Is this fair?

[Rawr]

Nah take there badges they clearly sent out a message saying do not go into it and it says hobbas only so it's there own fault. I bet there crying at there keyboards. :p

[LewstherinII]

Bet you've never had a badge, Tin, and I bet you're pretty envious of them. I bet you they're NOT crying at their keyboards but I bet you'd be hysterical if Callie came within in two pixel paces of you, let alone give you a badge. If it was taken...you'd probably fall into depression and the next day jump of a cliff or something...
And don't insult people for the sake of doing so, as we can be equally nasty.

[LewstherinII]

Hm...seems like this issue will be ignored by Sulake and Callie. It doesn't look like the badges are going to ever be restored and the Habbos that didn't enter won't either.
Callie and Sulake like to ignore things like this, so they don't have to bother fixing it up. It makes me irritated though; even if I personally don't have a badge.

Edited By nvrspk4 (Forum Moderator): Please don't double post, simply edit your previous post.

[brodeo]

Auronthebest has been banned with the messege - banned untill VIP badge removal?

[KCMac]

There own fault for entering the room. Staff clearley sent an warning out

[Evolution]

Hm...seems like this issue will be ignored by Sulake and Callie. It doesn't look like the badges are going to ever be restored and the Habbos that didn't enter won't either.
Callie and Sulake like to ignore things like this, so they don't have to bother fixing it up. It makes me irritated though; even if I personally don't have a badge.
I'm sorry but I stand by my word and say it's the Habbos own fault. Habbo Staff sent out an alert saying "Any users that enter the HOBBA ONLY public room will have their badges removed if they arn't a Hobba or an ex-Hobba."

Notice the capitals - HOBBA ONLY public room, it's up to the Habbos own common sense if they wish to ignore the warning sent to the whole hotel, and can't read - HOBBA ONLY.

EDIT:// That ban that you said Dollars was for an account called "HELPER-namehere". These accounts are not their real accounts, but helper accounts with VIP Badges on them. He doesn't need to use it again so that makes no difference. All HELPER- accounts were banned, as was my own.

EDIT 2:// I just found out you are also a reindeer, while this has hardly any relevance it would explain why you are so mad. If it was elves team badges being removed, you wouldn't give a toss would you? No, thought so.

[Re101]

Look i didnt see the warning message so it can't of been that clear :P

[.:.:jjm261:.:.]

They could do like one of them ban messages as soon as people log on it tells them not to enter the hobba only room

but no hobbas went in anyway

[Desjardens]

It is funny, the Reindeers wouldnt win anyways. The way it was set up they would've lost the badges anyways.

[:Bleh]

I'm sorry but I stand by my word and say it's the Habbos own fault. Habbo Staff sent out an alert saying "Any users that enter the HOBBA ONLY public room will have their badges removed if they arn't a Hobba or an ex-Hobba."

Notice the capitals - HOBBA ONLY public room, it's up to the Habbos own common sense if they wish to ignore the warning sent to the whole hotel, and can't read - HOBBA ONLY.

I don't mean to ruin your point but, what if they weren't on habbo when the alert was sent around the hotel?
I never saw that message :l

[LewstherinII]

Actually, I did mention some Elves lost their badges earlier Evolution - but I'm not generally mad about it happening to reindeer - I'm just a bit irritated over the affair as a whole. You can all say that an alert was sent out, but in the end it seems 2 reindeer did NOT go in, and I don't really care what people may say; I believe them.

I am not arguing that they 'broke the rules' by going in. I am saying that a kick and a message might suffice, rather than taking not just the VIP Badge, but all of the others too. A badge is part of your Habbo's reputation.

[LewstherinII]

Hm...it would seem this post has said all it needs to. Recommend closure.

Edited By nvrspk4 (Forum Moderator): Please don't double post, simply edit your previous post.

[Chanced]

Habbo warned users that entering the room will mean their badges will be removed.

There was a mass alert saying "Anyone that is not a Hobba or Ex-Hobba and enters the Hobba ONLY public room, will have their badges removed."
Even though you say That, not all VIP, Room overide Badges where on at the time, therefor the opnly way to get it clear would be sending an emailt o the people with badges, or to send a cosnole message to them

[Evolution]

Even though you say That, not all VIP, Room overide Badges where on at the time, therefor the opnly way to get it clear would be sending an emailt o the people with badges, or to send a cosnole message to them

Still the room was called "Hobbas ONLY". Were they Hobbas? No? Oh well then.

[Jõnathan]

Still the room was called "Hobbas ONLY". Were they Hobbas? No? Oh well then.
Evo you went mad yesterday in one of AshAlbrecht's rooms.
LOL
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Back on topic, they were being a bit optimistic cos they were like "YER WER VIPZ LET US IN LOLZ!!!!!11!!!!"
Or maybe not like that.
Or w/e.
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Lol, back on the AshAlbrecht topic.
You went damn mad on him, you made him pick up all of his furni!
And that's the LOLZ0RZ!
Lol.
And every1 was like :o :o OMG EVOLUTION MADE ASH PICK UP HIS FURNI!!!!!111!!!
And that was getting your own way.
Sure, you WERE ex-1 week hotel manager, but don't get like that!
Jeez. "/
That was possibly the weirdest yet coolest thing to happen YET on Habbo in 06!

[BlackGarden]

If you get given a badge then it is a great privilege - it is not your "right" to keep that badge. As with any privilege, if you abuse it then you can expect it to be removed.
You may remember that when the Hobba parties were going on last month, some parties were Hobba-only parties. Some VIPs (and some Habbo Xs also if I remember right) also entered the room and this caused great anger and a lot of Hobbas left the room in disgust. Clearly, Callie does not want the Hobbas to get upset by this behaviour again.
It seems harsh to take all their badges, but you have to remember this is not the first time this has happened. They abused their privileges, and if Habbo did not take harsh action then others may also do the same.
For me, this whole episode is just a reason to avoid giving out so many badges.

[madchild24]

if i belive hobbas only was just in the description so if u just clicked go and never even opened the descripion u wouldn't know unless u were onlien for the message.

[Outcast]

I think they should have been banned for that but not taken the badges.

[Evolution]

if i belive hobbas only was just in the description so if u just clicked go and never even opened the descripion u wouldn't know unless u were onlien for the message.

The room name was The Hobba Party.

For Hobbas and Ex-Hobbas only.

What part of Hobba/ex-hobba only can't people read?

[Article.]

Clearly all of it...

Have you blocked me ;p

[Mr.Himself]

Evo you went mad yesterday in one of AshAlbrecht's rooms.
LOL
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Back on topic, they were being a bit optimistic cos they were like "YER WER VIPZ LET US IN LOLZ!!!!!11!!!!"
Or maybe not like that.
Or w/e.
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Lol, back on the AshAlbrecht topic.
You went damn mad on him, you made him pick up all of his furni!
And that's the LOLZ0RZ!
Lol.
And every1 was like :o :o OMG EVOLUTION MADE ASH PICK UP HIS FURNI!!!!!111!!!
And that was getting your own way.
Sure, you WERE ex-1 week hotel manager, but don't get like that!
Jeez. "/
That was possibly the weirdest yet coolest thing to happen YET on Habbo in 06!

Are you on *****? That made no sence...

Edited by -S-G- (Super Moderator) - Please dont avoid the filter.

[Rawr]

Well habbo sent out a notice saying no VIPs are any one else can enter that room it's a hobba only room. If you can't read that it says ''hobbas only'' then it's your own fault.

[beth]

I have no sympathy for them. They're meant to be such 'loyal, polite and devoted to habbo' habbos then seriously a room that says "HOBBAS ONLY" would have made them think twice about entering it. Most of the guys who have these badges think it's their 'right' to have them because they're so 'great' well they should start looking to their VIP badges as an honour.

[Seatherny]

I think Hobbas should have got a different badge .... maybe they should have been allowed to keep the hobba badge, but just remove their powers.
Also, cant they hide the Hobba Room?

[Neversoft]

Ermm.. Isnt this abit old? It was posted on the 23rd of December..
And im not even sure if the Hobba room is there anymore since the Hobbas have gone ;/

[LewstherinII]

[QUOTE=You may remember that when the Hobba parties were going on last month, some parties were Hobba-only parties. Some VIPs (and some Habbo Xs also if I remember right) also entered the room and this caused great anger and a lot of Hobbas left the room in disgust. Clearly, Callie does not want the Hobbas to get upset by this behaviour again.
badges.[/QUOTE]

Did they take the HabboX and VIP badges? No, because Callie gave those particular badges out. She may have been disappointed with these pets, but as pets, she ignored this...for once.

As soon as non-pets make 1 mistake, that was PARTIALLY, I didn't say ALL, but partially Habbo's fault, then they lose the badges. Is this fair? No. The point I am getting across is this, so don't refute by saying "it's their fault, etc" Okay? Okay. I am saying:

A) ALL of the VIP Habbos' badges were taken. HabboWeen, etc.
B) The VIP override was due to Habbo's allowance on this. No one told the VIP's "you are strictly forbidden to enter." YES the mission had Hobbas and Ex-Hobbas ONLY but my point is this: Why were non-ex-Hobbas and non-Hobbas allowed to go in? Because of HABBO'S slip up. Read that carefully, everyone who wants to disagree. I am by no means saying that the VIPs were allowed to go in there, okay?
C) While I understand fully that there should have been some retribution for this, it is NOT against the Habbo Way, and according to Sulake terms and conditions, no rules have been broken. If there WAS a rule breaking, Terms and Conditions state "Users shall be banned from the site" which can mean 2 hours bans, etc. What I am saying is that according to Sulake, a small ban and an alert SHOULD have sufficed, not the taking of ALL badges.
D) 2 reindeer, who did NOT enter the room, lost their badges. Antony04 and Fadingaway. No emails have been answered, contrary to the fact that Habbo is a business, and we are clients. We have a right to be answered.
E) The VIPs that went in the room MAY have clicked by accident, or went in out of curiousity if so, this is completely unfair, because they have not broken the rules with malicious intent, or intent to break the rules
F) This is a topic with no precedent, therfore there is no way for Callie to explain her actions in a good answer. To take badges WITHOUT a precedent suddenly is against the rules of most companies. i.e Two clients breaking identical rules with different consequences. (Referring to the incident where Habbo Xs and VIPs gate-crashed a Hobba-only party with no badges removed)

This is the point I am getting across. All of you who posted after my 'recommend closure' thread have argued pre-used arguements. Read other posts before posting please :) And read this carefully to avoid furthur pointless posts.

[Lyca]

I think habbo actually told them not to enter room ?

[LewstherinII]

BTW, all those talking about alerts, most reindeer weren't on when they were posted. Many of you are saying 'Its their fault if they can't read Hobbas only etc, etc," I have covered this in previous postings, so have others. I understand they went in against some regulation Callie made up on the spot, and some punishment should be taken: READ POSTS, I SAY, lol :)
I am not arguing they should have got away with no punishment, and I have outlined this many times before in this post.

They did Browdy, good find, but nevertheless that happened the morning after, too. Not before, the alert went out after.

Yes, Browdy, the morning AFTER (referring in answer to your post below me :) )

Wow...over 1,000 people have viewed my post. That's pretty good. Only 1 positive rep for me, though...

[Lyca]

BTW, all those talking about alerts, most reindeer weren't on when they were posted. Many of you are saying 'Its their fault if they can't read Hobbas only etc, etc," I have covered this in previous postings, so have others. I understand they went in against some regulation Callie made up on the spot, and some punishment should be taken: READ POSTS, I SAY, lol :)
I am not arguing they should have got away with no punishment, and I have outlined this many times before in this post.
I thaught it was published on the homepage
Thats where i read it

[beth]

I'd just like to say, someone bad repped me for being an envious child? I don't use habbo dear, I don't think 'envious' is the word.

[LewstherinII]

What a sad, sad world.
Who would rep someone for being an envious child...

Please, in future viewers BACK UP YOUR STATEMENTS. Silver, did the rep just say "Envious child?"

[Asherr]

it's just rep you clubbeh.

[Dudeitsme]

Stop bumping threads

[Undesirable]

its compleatly wrong, say they came on habbo after the alert and saw the hobba room went inside and got there badge taken, just a kick and a message on the console would be anough but takin the badge is wrong.
in my opinion ;)

Shouldn't go in it, the room was for HOBBAS.. serves them right :)

[LewstherinII]

Wow I got repped for having an opinion...

*Quotes From the Book of Rep*

"They have no RIGHTS at all. Habbo is letting us use there server, we are mere users not clients - even if we do happen to pay for PRIVALEDGES".

Learn to spell. If you wish to share something, don't REP, simply POST.