Nex gen console battle!

[.:Subarusti:.]

Right, who's gonna win this generation? Its a hard one, ive had my xbox since Xmas day and havent stopped playing it, not even a day without it its just so user friendly and so great Online.

In my view the Xbox won it last time because it came out after the PS2. It saw the Playstation and improved it. So the 360 should lose? Well no, yes the PS3 has the technology, e.g the new 'lazer' technology. But when you get down to it, graphicly, its not that much better, if anyone saw the PS3 preview for the new metal gear solid, listen to this.the creator of metal gear solid (i forget his name) said the preview he made for PS3 could be done on the 360.

Also theres the price, due to stock shortages, places like HMV, GAME etc. have been selling the last of there stock off expensivly, but when you get down to it, its RRP is £209.99 (for the core) £279.99 (for the good one). Sony has had a bad history managing there finances when it comes to consoles, they lost billions with the PS2, and because of the 'blue ray lazer' technology, the PS3 will cost £280 to manafacture, compared to the 360's moddest £190. So boffins are estimating the X360 is going to be half the price of the PS3 by the end of the year!

Despite this, i am a Gadget geek, i love to have new technology, and i suprised myself when i said i didnt want the PSP. So once the PS3 has a realistic price i probably wil buy it.

What do you think?

P.S i havent mentioned the revoloution for one reason, i can see it bieng another flop from nintendo, like the Gamecube. Nintendos genius run out after the SNES

[smurf-you]

Firstly, Metal Gear Soild was Video Play, No actual 'game play' So you can't judge

The 360, has pretty amazing graphics and in reality is pretty much the same specs as PS3 (Leaving Blu-ray out of it)

and also, the orignal xbox lost 4 million pound and their planning to lose more with the 360.

Sony are clever they have the gaming market and they make most of the profits from the games and accessories.


revoloution will be the 'true' next gen console simply because there trying something amazily smart, cool and a totally new way of playing games!

[NekkLe]

From preveiws, clips, watching my cousins play, the Xbox 360 is pretty amazing! Good value for money whatever one it is, there both good consoles.
The PS3, loads of estimating has gone on since there was word about it release. So far, we still lie upon rumours, facts, guesses and rough estimation of whether it will basically own the Xbox 360. Till this point, its hard to get some heavy facts about this suspicous console, until its release ( which isn't very steardy to rely on just yet... ) we can only judge its true facts and compare the two, maybe three.

[Infrontation]

From preveiws, clips, watching my cousins play, the Xbox 360 is pretty amazing! Good value for money whatever one it is, there both good consoles.
The PS3, loads of estimating has gone on since there was word about it release. So far, we still lie upon rumours, facts, guesses and rough estimation of whether it will basically own the Xbox 360. Till this point, its hard to get some heavy facts about this suspicous console, until its release ( which isn't very steardy to rely on just yet... ) we can only judge its true facts and compare the two, maybe three.
Pretty similar to what I would have said. PS3 Has lots of speculation and the 360 is here about 7months earlier than the PS3 is supposed to release and the release date will probably be set back

[kha3000]

well im waiting for evolution they are going to have something big i can feel it up my boxers lol well im a nintendo fan anyways it will be a revolution of the gaming world hahaha!

[Charles]

Right, so you didn't mention the Revolution just because you believe it's going to be a flop? Its a next gen console 'war' and there are three. Include at least something.

[.:Subarusti:.]

yeah i suppose your all right but i cant see the revoloution doing well? You are right its diffrent, but that may be its downfall! And as for i think it was the first comment, that was a preview of the graphics to come so you can sort of judge it, The creator of metal gear solid did say that he thought the 360 was the best, and that the PS3 has too complicated architecture. Also I know Microsoft did lose millions (and are planning to) but the fact is Sony havent got there figures right, There initial investment for the PS3 is not a large budget for software companies to make games.

I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree. I was reading a games magazine and a manager of a games store wrote in and said 'i hate this console war because the companys are bad mouthing eachother and fighting, i had to physically split two boys up and throw them out my store the other day, just because they were fighting over microsoft and sony' And i think we all know he is speaking the truth. This console war isnt about money anymore, its about whos is the best, and i really hope the Revoloution does well, and i love the way its stayed out of the way of the big league players, but i think the Revoloution is for the retro gamers. And i think im on Microsofts side once more!

[NekkLe]

This console war isnt about money anymore, its about whos is the best.
I hope they look into that direction, we could see some pretty powerful outcomes from that. I hope they grit down to the proper gaming machine instead of faffing around and arguing about whos is better. I'm on neather side, I like both my PS2 and my Xbox, they produce the same games but they both have other games that show a uniqueness about the console itself.
The Nintendo Revolution looks the part, like you said its something different, lets hope there games are as funky as the console. Because for me, the NGC was cool in some senses but most of its games lacked excitement.

I'm looking forwards to the outcome of this battle, any console could win it in my eyes.

[Tommy]

Well how can you have a war when there are 2 that are the same then one which is in a total lague of its own? There all different but revolution seperates the most.

Xbox360 is only liked because it was released first. Ps3 will be very succesfull most likely will win. But im going for a revolution, since it supplies the most fun. Im not a graphics person. I couldnt care less about graphics. Its about how you play the games to me. And with the ps3 the boomerang for a controller ruins it for me.

[Bear-Max]

I believe you're talking about Hideo Kojima :p He said that the MGS footage seen is technically possible with the PS3, and that the consoles really are that different in terms of power. (And it is actually in-game footage, not just FMV like Killzone was.)

[smurf-you]

Opps, i ment 4 billion, - I SUCK!


Oh well, i guess it'll all come clear as soon as PS3 is released !

[Neil]

360 Is good but most of the PS3 features are tons better, the graphics card in the PS3 is better than 360 but hardly any of the game developers are any good at matching the game developers for xbox, I have also heard that PS3 has the ability of duel disks, I'm not sure on that one but we'll find out about May or something, PS3 might not out sell the 360 due to people thinking that Sony arnt as good as Microsoft but Sony didn't release their product early so the PS3 will have very few bugs in it

[Jordan3]

P.S i havent mentioned the revoloution for one reason, i can see it bieng another flop from nintendo, like the Gamecube. Nintendos genius run out after the SNES

Idiot, Nintendo's best console was the one after the SNES, the N64, argurably the best gaming system ever.

[Jordan3]

Came up twice..

[HUGECOOL]

Poor Nintendo. No one is talking about it. I love Nintendo, but they release enough news about it so I can't really talk about it's features.. Which might not be necessary.

This is what Satoru Iwata, Nintendo's president, had to say:

"Different also defines our approach to our next home system. It won't simply be new or include new technologies. Better technology is good, but not enough. Today's consoles already offer fairly realistic expressions so simply beefing up the graphics will not let most of us see a difference. So what should a new machine do? Much more. An unprecedented gameplay experience. Something no other machine has delivered before.

"The definition for a new machine must be different. I want you to know that Nintendo is working on our next system and that system will create a gaming revolution. Internal development is underway.

"I could give you our technical specs, as I'd know you'd like that, but I won't for a simple reason: they really don't matter. The time when horsepower alone made all the difference is over.

"Work on Revolution is well underway. When you see it you will be excited because you will experience a gaming revolution."

Kudos to him. I agree with his arguement. The general public isn't concerned about a console's specs so much as how it looks. The design of the consoles and their controllers seem to have stuck and Nintendo is willing to change that. Nintendo has basically said "Okay, graphics aren't that important anymore, as long as the picture is clear and the game is fun".

That could be seen as a bad thing (I don't know how, but hey, to some people, a tremendously boring game is still cool if it looks nice), but it is a good thing in the sense that now, we're going to get games that are 100% focused on AWESOME. And I mean, awesome play styles (The controller can be used in many different ways), more originality, better ideas, refined controls, etc.

The controller it will have is something I'm really looking forward to. -HEY! WAKE UP! :D- It will be like trying out a console for the first time, and I personally want to see the new possibilities this gaming console will uncover for everyone.

I also found it kind of funny when PS3 fanboys critisized the Nintendo's controller when third-party companies have already planned out PS3 controllers. ;D

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/blog2/20060105/Gamepadthing-1136503676685-440_330.jpg http://a.parsons.edu/~juliaset/files/images/nintendo_1.jpg
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Summary of this extra-long post

Nintendo Revolution

Each generation of video game consoles builds on the past to set new standards for the future. As the company with the strongest heritage of innovation, Nintendo redefines expectations for all next-gen systems by employing a wide-ranging strategy to attract more kinds of gamers to more kinds of games. When Nintendo’s new console, code-named Revolution, arrives in 2006, everyone will discover the meaning of All-Access Gaming.

"We will show the world what a next-gen system can be. Revolution marries the strongest heritage of innovation to the future of gaming," says Nintendo President Satoru Iwata. "With backward compatibility and the 'virtual console' concept, the stylish, compact body provides maximum gaming power. It will not only take home entertainment into another dimension by expanding the definition of video games, but it also will give you access to the great history of gaming."

[Rashelly]

[SIZE="1"]I couldnt care less about graphics. Its about how you play the games to meSIZE]
Exactly my view on games.
Nintendo may not have as good graphics, but nobody can beat them playability wise

[Tommy]

Exactly my view on games.
Nintendo may not have as good graphics, but nobody can beat them playability wise
Multiplayer games are unbeatable on nintendo, and nintendo are proffesionals when it comes to fun based games. The idea of games has totally gone to pot! Its all about graphics, bleedin' Halo is popular! For its graphics! Its so sad that people care about what games look like and not what the game is about and if it is fun or not. I dont play games alot, iusually play a console when my mates come round.
Im not going to play some halo game, im gonna play a game which makes you cry with laughter.

[Charles]

Exactly! There are some games, Mario Kart : DD and Wario Ware Inc (I love that game!) on the GC. Play Wario Ware with 4 people, it is so fun!

[ozzie-ing]

Firstly, Metal Gear Soild was Video Play, No actual 'game play' So you can't judge

The 360, has pretty amazing graphics and in reality is pretty much the same specs as PS3 (Leaving Blu-ray out of it)

and also, the orignal xbox lost 4 million pound and their planning to lose more with the 360.

Sony are clever they have the gaming market and they make most of the profits from the games and accessories.


revoloution will be the 'true' next gen console simply because there trying something amazily smart, cool and a totally new way of playing games!
agreed i love the mgs trailer
im getting revolution
and my favirote consoles still the n64 and my favirote games banjo tooie i dont care bout graphics

[Neversoft]

i havent mentioned the revoloution for one reason, i can see it bieng another flop from nintendo, like the Gamecube. Nintendos genius run out after the SNES

I disagree. The Revolution could be the best Nintendo Console we've seen yet! Anything could happen. Just because YOU think it will be "another flop from Nintendo" doesn't mean it will be. All the video's and previews of the Revolution I've seen have been brillient. So stop jumping to conclusions and just wait and see how good the Revolution will be. I think it will do pretty well when it is out. I do NOT Disagree that the 360 is also a good console though. But personaly I do think Nintendo are going to do quite well when the Revolution comes out. :) June is it? Correct me if im wrong. Im not to sure about the controller though, I think im going to prefer the Gamecube ones. But atleast Nintendo ARE trying something new.

Also.. I read in my Magazine (Nintendo Official Magazine, Buy yourself a copy :P) That you will be able to Download Nintendo 64 and SNES games on the Revolution!

Also I think that the Online feture will be more easy to set up on the Revolution. :) And As Weeeeeeeeeeee said Nintendo CANNOT Be beaten on Multi-player games or fun based games. Mario Kart is my personal Fave Multi-player. ;)

[HUGECOOL]

Yeah, Nintendo is mah heroez. ;D

Well, the president of Nintendo said that it would come out sometime around November 2006, maybe earlier. I really want to try out the new controllers though. ;D Oh, and controller cradles for the Rev controllers that look like GC controllers are going to be sold separately. Internet play will be free! ;D

And it makes sense, doesn't it? "Next Generation console" means that the console should be different than it's predacessors..prede.. I can't spell. >.<

So far, Microsoft has showed us more realistic graphics and a gaming console that looks like a vertical version of a Sony photo printer (http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/5866/dppfp502ji.jpg).

The PS3 will be very powerful, but it's not gonna be as if game developers will use most of that power so often.

"Nintendo might not have the horsepower that some other companies have, but if you look at the numbers that they're throwing out, are those numbers going to be used in-game? I mean, those are just numbers that somebody just crunched up on a calculator."

[Neversoft]

Wow :o

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3078/revolutioncontroller7hb.png (http://imageshack.us)

[smurf-you]

Wow :o

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3078/revolutioncontroller7hb.png (http://imageshack.us)


HMMM INTERESTING.... UGLY!


Lol, oh well, nintendo is aged now i think...

[Charles]

Wow :o

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3078/revolutioncontroller7hb.png (http://imageshack.us)
Hmm, yeah. Wasn't that just a mock-up? Or is it actually really going to be released as an add-on?

[Neversoft]

Hmm, yeah. Wasn't that just a mock-up? Or is it actually really going to be released as an add-on?

I hope it will :( I wont be able to play with a controller :'(

[Bear-Max]

Hmm, yeah. Wasn't that just a mock-up? Or is it actually really going to be released as an add-on?
There is to be a controller "shell", but I believe that's just a mock-up done by IGN.

[Wootzeh]

That looks like the 360 controllers, but it doesn't aat the same time :P

[NekkLe]

It looks exactly like a GC controller except with a slot for the new controller, why would they waste there time and money on it when they have a funky new contorller? Its obviously just an idea, like you said, mock-up.

[Charles]

It looks exactly like a GC controller except with a slot for the new controller, why would they waste there time and money on it when they have a funky new contorller? Its obviously just an idea, like you said, mock-up.
But some people may still want to have an old-school feeling while playing the past games, that are downloadable..

[Tommy]

It looks exactly like a GC controller except with a slot for the new controller, why would they waste there time and money on it when they have a funky new contorller? Its obviously just an idea, like you said, mock-up.
There will be many shells to add on to just the controller, to use with the backwards capability, the company who designed that controller said thats what the shell could look like. And i couldnt imagine it any different to be honest! Yes the controller is great but it can be better with add on's. The amount of add ons are amazing and keeps the computer new and exciting!

[J-Defoe]

If anyone has watched the Controller demonstration on IGN then you may be a little more impressed.

The contoller can be turned sideways aswell, and also reacts to movements

[Neversoft]

Yes, I watched it. But I can't live without and anolog stick :$ And the add on is weird. The Anolog stick would be miles away from the buttons. I dread to think how I'll play Mario Kart with that! I need a Controller!

[NekkLe]

There will be many shells to add on to just the controller, to use with the backwards capability, the company who designed that controller said thats what the shell could look like. And i couldnt imagine it any different to be honest! Yes the controller is great but it can be better with add on's. The amount of add ons are amazing and keeps the computer new and exciting!
Yeh, I guess but to me it seems like there deminishing the fact that there new controller is new and exciting, by adding a shell to it, the use you'll get out of the new revo one will be unused :(
But, I have no problems with them having shells, maybe they feel playing games with the new revo one isn't favoured for :/

[Neversoft]

Yeh, I guess but to me it seems like there deminishing the fact that there new controller is new and exciting, by adding a shell to it, the use you'll get out of the new revo one will be unused :(
But, I have no problems with them having shells, maybe they feel playing games with the new revo one isn't favoured for :/

People who want to try something new will use the new controller.
People who like playing with the old ones will buy a shell for it. :)

[ozzie-ing]

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/1614/ps33cc.png (http://imageshack.us)
i drew ps3 and revo 360 coming soon

[Science]

To Be honest i dont no why everyones moaning about the revolution controller. Its basicly a remake of one of the first sega remotes. You know the brick ones....

But to be honest (agian) The PS3 Pawns all in raw perfomance and graphics.

(i never read the whole convo)

[NekkLe]

To Be honest i dont no why everyones moaning about the revolution controller. Its basicly a remake of one of the first sega remotes. You know the brick ones....

But to be honest (agian) The PS3 Pawns all in raw perfomance and graphics.

(i never read the whole convo)
You should do before entering a discussion ;)

Depends what you want in a console, it varies depending on the person.