Stupid People (Stupid People don't read this)

[X]

A lot of people on Habbo are stupid. Aside from the grammatical issues I could get into, let me explain what I mean.

n00b. Yes, everyone's favorite insult. But, why? What does it actually mean? Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid, as it is derived from the term "Newbie" which denotes someone that is new to a site.

So, would a scammer be considered a n00b? Most assuredly not. They are far from it. Most scammers have some working knowledge of the hotel, they know how to get the information they need from people, and they are good at what they do. Some scammers are so involved in their scams that they actually even set up flashsites mimicing the habbo log-in applet. Very clever in it's own right.

So, anyone that would call a scammer a n00b is a stupid person, and is vastly under estimating them.

Next is one of my favorite stupid phrases, "I have been hacked!" No, you have not been hacked. You did one of several very stupid things.


You gave out the email address your habbo account is registered with.
You downloaded a program for "free credits" or maybe a "dice rigger" to cheat on Habbo yourself.
You went to a link outside of www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au (Or whichever Hotel you use.)and fell for a fake log-in site.


Think about what you are saying. Do you think someone that has the skills needed to actually hack into your computer would waste their time on pixelated habbo credits when there is so much money that could be stolen? If your answer yes, then you are a stupid person.

Habbo Trading. I am sitting in my trade shop on Habbo and a stupid person asks me what I want for my throne. There are several things wrong with this scenario from the begining.


The description of my shop clearly states read the stickies.
The sticky tells how much I want for my throne.


I tell them to read the sticky, then a little while later I get a reply similar to, "OMG U R A SCAMMER." Now, why am I a scammer by asking 25 HC sofas for my throne? Why am I a scammer for asking for 10 Creds of furniture for a Holodice? THe only response I can ever get is because that isn't worth that much, which I reply, "To me it is." Of course, this makes them "LOL" and tell me I will never sell it. Which is exactly why it is 25 HC Sofas in the first place.

Anyone that would call someone a scammer for wanting to evoke capitalism in Habbo is a stupid person.

And my favorite group of stupid people are people that get scammed. If you get scammed you HAVE done one of the following (VERY few exceptions).


Downloaded a keylogger.
Gave your password to someone.
Gave your personal email address to someone.
Clicked Agree on the trade box too quickly.
Gambled at a casino.
Fell for a fake log-in site.


If you do not have the brains to keep yourself from being scammed by one of these OBVIOUS scams, you are a stupid person.

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?


Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.


It's that simple. 6 things.

And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.) If you were Perm Banned, you were banned by a Staff member, and not just some Hobba. Perm bans are not given out lightly and to get one you have to either do something VERY wrong, or have a history of doing the same thing over and over again.

My last one will be for those members of this forum that will not read this far into my post and will actually reply (Yes I am foretelling the future here) "That was way too long, I ain't even going to read that." If you aren't going to read a post, why would you even type that out? Some jerk like me may actually be laughing at you before you even type it, knowing how much of an idiot you are in advance.

Well, that about does it for this bit..

X

[Vampire]

I did actually take the time to read all of that, and I agree with almost all of it, except the banning part.

People do get banned for saying "bobba", why? The word's been filtered, so why bother banning people over it? It kinda takes away the whole point of the filter, really. What if the habbo's saying it are new to the site and don't know what the filter is? Yeah, maybe they should read the FAQ's. People who say "bobba" over and over again though should be banned, I just don't agree with Hobba's banning you over one solitary "bobba". And yes, I have been banned for that.

Very nice post though, X.

[X]

On several occasions, I have been in a room with several members of staff at once, including YaTwice, Supreemio, and Dirk Gently, and have both bobba'd, and also saw them bobba.

The filter is a safety net to catch people that may want to expose children on the site to bad language. It is not a replacement for moderation. Intelligent hobbas will see the difference in the context of a conversation and in most cases will not ban you for innocent transgretions.

If you use the sentence, "bobba off" it COULD be a very simple matter of the filter catching your swear word, and if a hobba deems it worthy of a ban, as you may be entitled to under the Terms of Service we all agreed to when creating our habbos, you may recieve one.

However, in my travels, I have found something bobba'd that I have no idea why..

Numbers over 99,999 are bobba'd. (Or were to my last knowledge)

It's very odd if you ask me.

(However.. don't get me started on the filter. I could write pages on why I think it is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen online.)

[Mazoku]

A lot of people on Habbo are stupid. Aside from the grammatical issues I could get into, let me explain what I mean.

n00b. Yes, everyone's favorite insult. But, why? What does it actually mean? Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid, as it is derived from the term "Newbie" which denotes someone that is new to a site.

So, would a scammer be considered a n00b? Most assuredly not. They are far from it. Most scammers have some working knowledge of the hotel, they know how to get the information they need from people, and they are good at what they do. Some scammers are so involved in their scams that they actually even set up flashsites mimicing the habbo log-in applet. Very clever in it's own right.

So, anyone that would call a scammer a n00b is a stupid person, and is vastly under estimating them.

Next is one of my favorite stupid phrases, "I have been hacked!" No, you have not been hacked. You did one of several very stupid things.

You gave out the email address your habbo account is registered with.
You downloaded a program for "free credits" or maybe a "dice rigger" to cheat on Habbo yourself.
You went to a link outside of www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au (http://www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au) (Or whichever Hotel you use.)and fell for a fake log-in site.

Think about what you are saying. Do you think someone that has the skills needed to actually hack into your computer would waste their time on pixelated habbo credits when there is so much money that could be stolen? If your answer yes, then you are a stupid person.

Habbo Trading. I am sitting in my trade shop on Habbo and a stupid person asks me what I want for my throne. There are several things wrong with this scenario from the begining.

The description of my shop clearly states read the stickies.
The sticky tells how much I want for my throne.

I tell them to read the sticky, then a little while later I get a reply similar to, "OMG U R A SCAMMER." Now, why am I a scammer by asking 25 HC sofas for my throne? Why am I a scammer for asking for 10 Creds of furniture for a Holodice? THe only response I can ever get is because that isn't worth that much, which I reply, "To me it is." Of course, this makes them "LOL" and tell me I will never sell it. Which is exactly why it is 25 HC Sofas in the first place.

Anyone that would call someone a scammer for wanting to evoke capitalism in Habbo is a stupid person.

And my favorite group of stupid people are people that get scammed. If you get scammed you HAVE done one of the following (VERY few exceptions).

Downloaded a keylogger.
Gave your password to someone.
Gave your personal email address to someone.
Clicked Agree on the trade box too quickly.
Gambled at a casino.
Fell for a fake log-in site.

If you do not have the brains to keep yourself from being scammed by one of these OBVIOUS scams, you are a stupid person.

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?

Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.

It's that simple. 6 things.

And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.) If you were Perm Banned, you were banned by a Staff member, and not just some Hobba. Perm bans are not given out lightly and to get one you have to either do something VERY wrong, or have a history of doing the same thing over and over again.

My last one will be for those members of this forum that will not read this far into my post and will actually reply (Yes I am foretelling the future here) "That was way too long, I ain't even going to read that." If you aren't going to read a post, why would you even type that out? Some jerk like me may actually be laughing at you before you even type it, knowing how much of an idiot you are in advance.

Well, that about does it for this bit..

XI agree with what you say , they're just annoying .. !

Btw , I red it all

[Vampire]

However, in my travels, I have found something bobba'd that I have no idea why..

Numbers over 99,999 are bobba'd. (Or were to my last knowledge)

It's very odd if you ask me.

(However.. don't get me started on the filter. I could write pages on why I think it is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen online.)

They say it's to stop kids giving out their phone numbers, they neglect to tell you it's also patched scripted photos.

[hellamatrix]

It is also to prevent people from giving out their password because the Min. Characters needed to create a password is " 6 " and the digit 99,999 has only 5 characters .

It's easy to understand .

[Mentor]

athogh ive only scaned threw it, id have to agree with the points its making

[GommeInc]

I agree with you alot perhaps some stupid people will actually read that, when someone comes into a room saying they have been hacked or scammed I normally say 'Tell someone who cares, idiot' which they are as they are to dumb to read the FAQ's and/or look at what they are trading for etc.

FOR THE LOVE OF PETE READ YOU 'STUPID PEOPLE'.

I highly agree with X and if anyone asks me for furni I will be heartless, espeically if they were scammed of it. DUmbys

[lukeisok]

I Read It All. I Think That should Be Published On The Habbox Homepage.

[GommeInc]

I think it should be too. Perhaps people will learn!

[Max]

X, you scare me :P your to smart
I have been perm banned for 'scripting' while I was talking about scripting..
I dont think thats fair..maybe a temp ban but not a perm..
I mean, how would you feel if you get banned for 'scripting' while you were talking about it?
You mostly told the truth but there are situations when its a bit different..sometimes
I guess :P

Btw, I dont call scammers n00bs, I call newbies n00bs..

[GommeInc]

You're not alone ThaMax, I was banned for Hacking when I was talking about, shows how dumb Hobba's are.

[Max]

:') Im not alone, thnx
But i have been perm banned...
I only talked to a scripter and asked wot programs he uses...i mean is that illegal??
If it is...then a perm ban is a bit...exaggerated isnt it?

[GommeInc]

I got perm banned but my IP changes randomly and they are to dumb to ban a habbo permenately.

[Michael.]

A lot of people on Habbo are stupid. Aside from the grammatical issues I could get into, let me explain what I mean.

n00b. Yes, everyone's favorite insult. But, why? What does it actually mean? Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid, as it is derived from the term "Newbie" which denotes someone that is new to a site.

So, would a scammer be considered a n00b? Most assuredly not. They are far from it. Most scammers have some working knowledge of the hotel, they know how to get the information they need from people, and they are good at what they do. Some scammers are so involved in their scams that they actually even set up flashsites mimicing the habbo log-in applet. Very clever in it's own right.

So, anyone that would call a scammer a n00b is a stupid person, and is vastly under estimating them.

Next is one of my favorite stupid phrases, "I have been hacked!" No, you have not been hacked. You did one of several very stupid things.


You gave out the email address your habbo account is registered with.
You downloaded a program for "free credits" or maybe a "dice rigger" to cheat on Habbo yourself.
You went to a link outside of www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au (Or whichever Hotel you use.)and fell for a fake log-in site.


Think about what you are saying. Do you think someone that has the skills needed to actually hack into your computer would waste their time on pixelated habbo credits when there is so much money that could be stolen? If your answer yes, then you are a stupid person.

Habbo Trading. I am sitting in my trade shop on Habbo and a stupid person asks me what I want for my throne. There are several things wrong with this scenario from the begining.


The description of my shop clearly states read the stickies.
The sticky tells how much I want for my throne.


I tell them to read the sticky, then a little while later I get a reply similar to, "OMG U R A SCAMMER." Now, why am I a scammer by asking 25 HC sofas for my throne? Why am I a scammer for asking for 10 Creds of furniture for a Holodice? THe only response I can ever get is because that isn't worth that much, which I reply, "To me it is." Of course, this makes them "LOL" and tell me I will never sell it. Which is exactly why it is 25 HC Sofas in the first place.

Anyone that would call someone a scammer for wanting to evoke capitalism in Habbo is a stupid person.

And my favorite group of stupid people are people that get scammed. If you get scammed you HAVE done one of the following (VERY few exceptions).


Downloaded a keylogger.
Gave your password to someone.
Gave your personal email address to someone.
Clicked Agree on the trade box too quickly.
Gambled at a casino.
Fell for a fake log-in site.


If you do not have the brains to keep yourself from being scammed by one of these OBVIOUS scams, you are a stupid person.

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?


Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.


It's that simple. 6 things.

And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.) If you were Perm Banned, you were banned by a Staff member, and not just some Hobba. Perm bans are not given out lightly and to get one you have to either do something VERY wrong, or have a history of doing the same thing over and over again.

My last one will be for those members of this forum that will not read this far into my post and will actually reply (Yes I am foretelling the future here) "That was way too long, I ain't even going to read that." If you aren't going to read a post, why would you even type that out? Some jerk like me may actually be laughing at you before you even type it, knowing how much of an idiot you are in advance.

Well, that about does it for this bit..

X
:o - I am... I'm stunned. That was an excellent piece of writing!
I would add 'Habbo babies' for their 'Crimes against the letter W' aswell, but that deserves a positive rep ;)

X FOR HABBOX WRITER!

[GommeInc]

X for Habbox Writer, he calls scam victims Stupid which they are!

[nets]

As If Im Gonna Read All That!
No, I did read it all, and I think that most of it is very true.

[hellamatrix]

I agree , sometimes they should just adjust their strict level .

[Soyers]

Woooow amazing piece of writing i must say :o And, tis all true.

[Mentor]

i agree, if i could give anmother repution point for it i would, unlukly i cant thogh, but stil an exilent peace of writting

[GommeInc]

Fascinatingly true in many ways.

[MissAlice]

Excellent post!

Well written and easily understandable :)

[jrh2002]

I agree 100% and also you are allowed to say bobba whoever said you get banned for it, if you were banned for this the peson who banned you would be in trouble i guess.

[Ciaran]

Great well done perfectly stated.. made me checkle a few times when the phrase "stupid idiot" was used alot. Great **claps**

[:kader]

People Say They Have Been Hacked When Infact They've Just Been Scammed Or As X Said Downloaded Dicerigger Or Free Credz Scam

[GommeInc]

I never donate to anyone who asks for something, I tell them I don't donate in a friendly way.

[nets]

Woooow amazing piece of writing i must say :o And, tis all true.


Excellent post!

Well written and easily understandable :)


I agree 100% and also you are allowed to say bobba whoever said you get banned for it, if you were banned for this the peson who banned you would be in trouble i guess.

As you all have said, this is a great post, perhaps stick it, so others read it? As some of the points made are very ture, and it will mean people dont have to explain some of those points again - to maybe people who havent read it, at a later date?

[Adzeh]

Its alot of good points that you are making, accept for the furni shop bit where you are clearly over reacting.

Would you go into a furni shop and read every sticky, of course not.
So dont go calling peple stupid just because they did not see/want to rerad a sticky note.

[GommeInc]

Yeah, they need to make stickies so the stick out and can be read.

I dont read stickies unless told to or I am bored.

[la-ur-en]

A lot of people on Habbo are stupid. Aside from the grammatical issues I could get into, let me explain what I mean.

n00b. Yes, everyone's favorite insult. But, why? What does it actually mean? Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid, as it is derived from the term "Newbie" which denotes someone that is new to a site.

So, would a scammer be considered a n00b? Most assuredly not. They are far from it. Most scammers have some working knowledge of the hotel, they know how to get the information they need from people, and they are good at what they do. Some scammers are so involved in their scams that they actually even set up flashsites mimicing the habbo log-in applet. Very clever in it's own right.

So, anyone that would call a scammer a n00b is a stupid person, and is vastly under estimating them.

Next is one of my favorite stupid phrases, "I have been hacked!" No, you have not been hacked. You did one of several very stupid things.


You gave out the email address your habbo account is registered with.
You downloaded a program for "free credits" or maybe a "dice rigger" to cheat on Habbo yourself.
You went to a link outside of www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au (Or whichever Hotel you use.)and fell for a fake log-in site.


Think about what you are saying. Do you think someone that has the skills needed to actually hack into your computer would waste their time on pixelated habbo credits when there is so much money that could be stolen? If your answer yes, then you are a stupid person.

Habbo Trading. I am sitting in my trade shop on Habbo and a stupid person asks me what I want for my throne. There are several things wrong with this scenario from the begining.


The description of my shop clearly states read the stickies.
The sticky tells how much I want for my throne.


I tell them to read the sticky, then a little while later I get a reply similar to, "OMG U R A SCAMMER." Now, why am I a scammer by asking 25 HC sofas for my throne? Why am I a scammer for asking for 10 Creds of furniture for a Holodice? THe only response I can ever get is because that isn't worth that much, which I reply, "To me it is." Of course, this makes them "LOL" and tell me I will never sell it. Which is exactly why it is 25 HC Sofas in the first place.

Anyone that would call someone a scammer for wanting to evoke capitalism in Habbo is a stupid person.

And my favorite group of stupid people are people that get scammed. If you get scammed you HAVE done one of the following (VERY few exceptions).


Downloaded a keylogger.
Gave your password to someone.
Gave your personal email address to someone.
Clicked Agree on the trade box too quickly.
Gambled at a casino.
Fell for a fake log-in site.


If you do not have the brains to keep yourself from being scammed by one of these OBVIOUS scams, you are a stupid person.

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?


Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.


It's that simple. 6 things.

And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.) If you were Perm Banned, you were banned by a Staff member, and not just some Hobba. Perm bans are not given out lightly and to get one you have to either do something VERY wrong, or have a history of doing the same thing over and over again.

My last one will be for those members of this forum that will not read this far into my post and will actually reply (Yes I am foretelling the future here) "That was way too long, I ain't even going to read that." If you aren't going to read a post, why would you even type that out? Some jerk like me may actually be laughing at you before you even type it, knowing how much of an idiot you are in advance.

Well, that about does it for this bit..

X


I would just like to point out, that not everyone are idiots, and your message makes no sense, what so ever.
You cannot call so many people idiots, your an idiot yourself, your use of words were terrible there, you are calling people idiots, yet you did not explain properly why they are idiots, nobody is an idiot, the correct meaning of idiot is a foolish person, and only foolish people call other people idiots, as they cannot admit to themselves that they are idiots, and people who take 'hack' as that type of meaning, must be an idiot themselves, and yes, some people may hack people to get onto there habbo account, just because it doesnt happen alot, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

And also, scammers might not be 'noobs' but they are 'foolish and selfish' and to be honest, you must be pretty 'noobish' if you decide to spend some of your time hacking people on habbo, for pixels.

And the other reason people may not read your whole article is because, some people may not like being called 'idiots' all the way through it, i cannot explain my anger in that comment, you obviously aren't that bright either if you cant go a whole paragraph without insulting people.

Also, if you didn't want to sell your throne then the 'SMART' thing to do is to put on your stickie 'throne not for sale' maybe then you will stop being called a scammer, as 25Hcs is quite alot to ask for, especially for a throne, as they are only worth 17 Hcs... So in this case, you are the idiot for trying to make people trade you for alot more than the original price, a few more hcs more isnt much, but 8 is, and obviously any 'idiot' would figure that out...


Altogether, your whole article is offensive, and 'idiotic' so instead of calling others idiots. look at your own article, that will show you how much of an idiot you are yourself...

Its people like you who make habbo an unfriendly enviroment.

[GommeInc]

Here you go X Proof, a stupid person ^^

He did say why they are idiots I quote:


And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.)

And you, technically thanks to his post, La-ur-en, are a stupid person. As you didn't know what n00b stood for and take it as an insult, which it isn't.


Altogether, your whole article is offensive, and 'idiotic' so instead of calling others idiots. look at your own article, that will show you how much of an idiot you are yourself...

You have to pretty as he says 'stupid' to find that insulting. As they are, in fact, stupid for not noticing the obvious.



And also, scammers might not be 'noobs' but they are 'foolish and selfish' and to be honest, you must be pretty 'noobish' if you decide to spend some of your time hacking people on habbo, for pixels. a Hacker cannot be a 'n00b', they have to learn how to get though the weaknesses of habbo making them 'not a n00b'. Therefore, this again makes you a 'stupid person'.


Also, if you didn't want to sell your throne then the 'SMART' thing to do is to put on your stickie 'throne not for sale' maybe then you will stop being called a scammer, as 25Hcs is quite alot to ask for, especially for a throne, as they are only worth 17 Hcs...

There is no real price for any furni in the hotel as Habbox said it is a 'guide.' Making you a stupid person again for not reading.

[la-ur-en]

Isnt it odd how i also said that he didnt give proper meanings on how he thought it was idiotic?..
Anyone could EASILY read the FAQ's on habbo, so hes not so smart himself, he is just repeating what habbo FAQ's say, but adding in a few of his own insults, NOBODYS has a right to call ANYONE an idiot, and he did not make any good points of his own, as a very smart philospher said 'smart people talk about ideas... average people talk about things... idiotic people talk about other people' which is clearly stating that whom ever talks about other peoples 'disadvantages' is also stating that he himself is 'an idiot'. And you cannot call me an idiot, my life does not evolve around habbo, but thats like calling an adult an 'idiot' because he does not know how to ride a bike, just because he does not know how to do it now, does not mean he will NEVER know how to do it. And also another smart philospher said 'we live through our mistakes' so your post is calling people 'idiots' who may have made mistakes in the past. Parts of your post i agree of, like the banning part, but the rest may insult others.
He said he put it to 25 thrones because he didnt want to sell it, but if he didnt mean it in that way, then he most defiently is an idiot for misleading people.

GommeInc dont you DARE call me an idiot, i may not like the fact of insulting others, because im not cold hearted like you, but i do know more important facts than habbo facts, i hardly go on habbo anymore, but i just passed my science highers, and i got 1 for all 3 of them (the highest mark) so think carefully before you start calling ANYBODY an idiot, especially if you do not know the person, or if you dont understand the post properly...

[wrestlin-kid]

well,i agree with vampire on this one,why should people get banned for bobba?like even though they ment to say a swear word directed at someone,the words filtered,so who cares if they sware,they can't say it anyways.but the rest i agree with,very well typed up.

[X]

Isnt it odd how i also said that he didnt give proper meanings on how he thought it was idiotic?..

It's funny how only you have thought I haven't given proper meanings to my thoughts. Perhaps it is more of a default in your brain functions than the fault of my post.


Anyone could EASILY read the FAQ's on habbo, so hes not so smart himself, he is just repeating what habbo FAQ's say, but adding in a few of his own insults, NOBODYS has a right to call ANYONE an idiot, and he did not make any good points of his own,

Thank you for proving my point. Anyone COULD easily read the FAQ's, yet here we are, talking about why people are stupid idiots for not reading the FAQS.


as a very smart philospher said 'smart people talk about ideas... average people talk about things... idiotic people talk about other people'

I have looked for this quote on Google, as I have studied Eastern Philosophy in college, and I was not able to find it. Could you give me the name of this Very Smart Philosopher?




which is clearly stating that whom ever talks about other peoples 'disadvantages' is also stating that he himself is 'an idiot'.

Your wit is mind-boggling! You quote a philosopher that says Idiotic People talk about othe people.. in a reply talking about ME! You are very crafty! -_-




And you cannot call me an idiot, my life does not evolve around habbo,

Oh no, because only people who enjoy Habbo are idiots.. -_-


but thats like calling an adult an 'idiot' because he does not know how to ride a bike, just because he does not know how to do it now, does not mean he will NEVER know how to do it.

Huh? I don't understand what that is in relation to or how it fits anywhere, sorry.



And also another smart philospher said 'we live through our mistakes'

Are you just making these up? Again, could I have a name?


so your post is calling people 'idiots' who may have made mistakes in the past. Parts of your post i agree of, like the banning part, but the rest may insult others.

No, my post is calling people stupid for being STUPID and making STUPID mistakes. Very big difference. Forget to put your name on your homework? That is a mistake. Put your mom's name on your homework? That is a stupid mistake. (I guess if you can use references to things that have no bearing on Habbo, so can I.)


He said he put it to 25 thrones because he didnt want to sell it, but if he didnt mean it in that way, then he most defiently is an idiot for misleading people.

This part has been answered above. And I still don't understand how I was misleading anyone, as I would be stupid NOT to sell my throne if someone actually offered me 25 Sofas..


GommeInc dont you DARE call me an idiot, i may not like the fact of insulting others, because im not cold hearted like you, but i do know more important facts than habbo facts, i hardly go on habbo anymore, but i just passed my science highers, and i got 1 for all 3 of them (the highest mark) so think carefully before you start calling ANYBODY an idiot, especially if you do not know the person, or if you dont understand the post properly...

Good luck on your Language Highers.. (Not sure if there ARE Language Highers.. but I am sure you understand my point.... Oh wait, you probably don't, seeing as you are kind of stupid. Let me point it out for you.. Your grammar is bad. Brush up on it before EVER posting in one of my threads if you want me to take you seriously.)

[GommeInc]

LOL, X you have backed up my claims that she is in fact a 'STUPID PERSON'.

[la-ur-en]

Oh wait X, before you say anything else

Was that you AGAIN calling ME an idiot?
You use sarcasim in ALL of those replys
And yes, people could easily read the FAQ's, SO IF THEY DONT WANT TO, THEN IT IS UP TO THEM, THEY DO NOT NEED LOW-LIFES LIKE YOU TO CALL THEM IDIOTS...

The very smart Philosopher was infact Edward Abbey...

You said that my wit was mind boggling

Well, i know it is, as the whole point in philosophy...
If you talk about me, it just goes straight back at you...

And no, i wasnt saying everyone who play habbo is idiots, but the whole point in your thread is pointing at how stupid habbo players are, you said yourself you were banned, is this calling you STUPID because you may have done something wrong?

You cannot say that my quote had nothing to do with the thread, because if you had quoted everything i typed before it, it will have made sense...

And no, actually putting your moms name on your homework is a SILLY mistake, something you can laugh off... Stupid is quite a harsh word!

I'm sorry, was i talking in french? Or did you mean English Highers?
There is nothing wrong with my grammer, again, you did not point out WHAT was wrong with my grammer, you TOLD me that my grammer was wrong, but WHERE is my grammer wrong. You wouldnt make a good help centre worker, as you do not give proper reasons WHY i am doing something wrong, telling someone they are wrong, doesnt stop them, as they do not know what they are wrong ABOUT...

You can make another comment, saying im stupid all you want, but i can out-smarten alot of people on these forums, and GommeInc, i dont know who you are calling Stupid, as in one of my threads you said
Lauren out of 10, 10 being the smartest you can be and 1 being a dumby butt, you are a 9 in these forums...

Oh yes, and one last point, i have never been scammed or banned, and i dont call people noobs... so infact, i am not stupid, i am proving a point that you are offending people for mistakes they done in the past...

And in actual fact, when you said that you get annoyed when people say 'OMG I HAVE BEEN HACKED' people cannot find out your password by hacking you, as they cant see every keystroke you do, this is keylogging.
When people say they have been 'hacked' it usually means they have been scammed (someone has went into there habbo account)...

Some think that hacking a hotel server is impossible, but, nothing is impossible, people so smart they know more about computers than you know about yourself...

Anyway, i rest my case...

[X]

Oh wait X, before you say anything else

Was that you AGAIN calling ME an idiot?


To answer you yet again, yes. You are an idiot.


You use sarcasim in ALL of those replys

Really?! I hadn't noticed. -_-


And yes, people could easily read the FAQ's, SO IF THEY DONT WANT TO, THEN IT IS UP TO THEM, THEY DO NOT NEED LOW-LIFES LIKE YOU TO CALL THEM IDIOTS...

Thank you for agreeing with me. However, to add to your point, if you do not read the FAQ's, then go on to ask questions/complain, you are an idiot. There is no getting around the fact that they are idiots.


The very smart Philosopher was infact Edward Abbey...

"Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you get a lot of scum on top."

A better quote from your Edward Abbey.

Edward Abbey also fell in love withand married his cousin (underage).


You said that my wit was mind boggling

And you said I used "sarcasim" in all of my "replys" (Your bad spelling, not mine)


Well, i know it is, as the whole point in philosophy...


No, the whole point of philosophy is to make your thoughts more attainable to others and to then expand on the thoughts of others based on opinion and conjecture.


If you talk about me, it just goes straight back at you...

So, someone that is stupid thinks I am an idiot. It is a sad day.


And no, i wasnt saying everyone who play habbo is idiots, but the whole point in your thread is pointing at how stupid habbo players are,

Nope, how stupid MOST habbos are.


you said yourself you were banned, is this calling you STUPID because you may have done something wrong?

Yes, I was stupid for not reading the rules and fully understanding them before using Habbo. I remedied that situation the only way you CAN remedy being stupid, by attaining the knowledge of what I did wrong, and putting that knowledge to practical use.




You cannot say that my quote had nothing to do with the thread, because if you had quoted everything i typed before it, it will have made sense...

I quoted everything in your post.


And no, actually putting your moms name on your homework is a SILLY mistake, something you can laugh off... Stupid is quite a harsh word!

Silly is a glib word for people that cannot take the criticisms of real life. Stupid is more to the point as silly implies humor.


I'm sorry, was i talking in french? Or did you mean English Highers?
There is nothing wrong with my grammer, again, you did not point out WHAT was wrong with my grammer, you TOLD me that my grammer was wrong, but WHERE is my grammer wrong. You wouldnt make a good help centre worker, as you do not give proper reasons WHY i am doing something wrong, telling someone they are wrong, doesnt stop them, as they do not know what they are wrong ABOUT...

I am not your English teacher, and I do not get paid to give you English direction, child. And, it is not my ambition to BE a help centre worker, so I guess that doesn't matter much does it?

Oh, and to actually answer your question, you spelled grammar wrong, Stupid.
There are SO MANY THINGS I could point out in your grammar, but quite frankly, there are TOO MANY to do so.


You can make another comment, saying im stupid all you want,

I will take this as permission to do so.



but i can out-smarten alot of people on these forums

Not that you understand proper syntax, Stupid.


, and GommeInc, i dont know who you are calling Stupid, as in one of my threads you said

I will not comment on this bit, as it is not my bit to comment on.


Oh yes, and one last point, i have never been scammed or banned, and i dont call people noobs... so infact, i am not stupid, i am proving a point that you are offending people for mistakes they done in the past...

So, wait a tick..

You are offended... because I am offending stupid people? If anyone here wants to raise their hand and be counted amongst the people listed in my first post as stupid, I will gladly apologize.

No I won't. I will laugh at them for not only being stupid enough to take offense to my post, but also for standing up and be counted as you have.


And in actual fact, when you said that you get annoyed when people say 'OMG I HAVE BEEN HACKED' people cannot find out your password by hacking you, as they cant see every keystroke you do, this is keylogging.
When people say they have been 'hacked' it usually means they have been scammed (someone has went into there habbo account)...

Read the first post, Stupid.


Some think that hacking a hotel server is impossible, but, nothing is impossible, people so smart they know more about computers than you know about yourself...

Only stupid people think that hacking the Habbo servers are impossible. However, only stupid people would actually HACK the habbo servers, seeing as the prison time is not worth the pixelated furniture.


Anyway, i rest my case...

What case?!

All you have said is that I am wrong for calling people stupid. Good detective skills, Batman.

[GommeInc]

Shes a bit stupid isnt she.

[Mentor]

Its amsing how entertaing this is.
Athogh X is winning the argument by a land slide.

Athogh 1 point i disagree with is when x says "most habbos are stupid" as i think most habbos are bright enogh not to get scammed, it just the few that are stupid and do get scammed and run around screeming they were hacked tenc to attract alot more attention than habbos that are smart.

[la-ur-en]

Thank you for agreeing with me. However, to add to your point, if you do not read the FAQ's, then go on to ask questions/complain, you are an idiot. There is no getting around the fact that they are idiots.

I wasn't agreeing with you, i was saying that the if people decide not to read the FAQ's then they do not have to, and instead of you telling them that they are idiots for not reading the FAQ's... then why dont u tell them to read the FAQ's...


""Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you get a lot of scum on top."

A better quote from your Edward Abbey.

Edward Abbey also fell in love withand married his cousin (underage). ."

First of all, you were the one who originally asked me who the philosopher was, so i gave you then answer, you did not need to type down STUPID things he has done in the past aswell, obviously he is not stupid, his acts may be stupid, but his mind is FAR from stupid...


And you said I used "sarcasim" in all of my "replys" (Your bad spelling, not mine)
Then you said

I am not your English teacher, and I do not get paid to give you English direction, child

So first of all, you are correcting me for my bad spelling, then you are saying you are not my english teacher? Hmmmm, you should think of how you use your sarcasm before you actually type it!



No, the whole point of philosophy is to make your thoughts more attainable to others and to then expand on the thoughts of others based on opinion and conjecture.

Yes, but if you look at what i said before, the philosopher i was talking about was clearly stating that 'if others call you names, they are what the call you' That is what i meant by that post...


So, someone that is stupid thinks I am an idiot. It is a sad day

That comment made no sense, as no stupid person called you an idiot, I called you an idiot, and i am far from stupid...



Nope, how stupid MOST habbos are.

Okay, im sure everyone will be quite offended now, as not MOST habbos are stupid, your point is tht you think people who dont read the FAQ's are stupid, this does not mean MOST people in the hotel dont read the FAQ's because u say they dont, this is the same as not MOST people in the hotel are STUPID because you say they are.


However, only stupid people would actually HACK the habbo servers, seeing as the prison time is not worth the pixelated furniture
Okay, but first of all you said scammers and hackers are not STUPID but then u just said they are stupid, they cannot be stupid if they hack the hotels servers, they are obviously smart, but it just wasnt a very smart action, as another smart philosopher said 'It takes an idiot a lifetime to make a maggot, yet he has created thousands of gods' It isnt the religious reasons i am looking at, but it shows that just because there actions aren't smart, doesnt mean they AREN'T smart...


Silly is a glib word for people that cannot take the criticisms of real life. Stupid is more to the point as silly implies humor.

Yes exactly, just because you put your moms name on your homework doesnt make you stupid, you made a silly mistake, it is easily fixed. So that wasnt a very good example, i thought a witty person like you would be able to think up alot more better examples than that...



I am not your English teacher, and I do not get paid to give you English direction, child. And, it is not my ambition to BE a help centre worker, so I guess that doesn't matter much does it?

Already commented on this...


I will take this as permission to do so.

Actually i wasn't giving you permission, but then again, nobody gives you permission to insult them...


Yes, I was stupid for not reading the rules and fully understanding them before using Habbo. I remedied that situation the only way you CAN remedy being stupid, by attaining the knowledge of what I did wrong, and putting that knowledge to practical use.

Okay, so then that means, that everyone who gets scammed isnt really stupid, because they made a mistake, and they can easily fix that mistake, afterall, it is just a bunch of pixels!



You are offended... because I am offending stupid people? If anyone here wants to raise their hand and be counted amongst the people listed in my first post as stupid, I will gladly apologize

No, i am offended because you are calling habbos stupid for mistakes
Only stupid people think that hacking the Habbo servers are impossible. However, only stupid people would actually HACK the habbo servers, seeing as the prison time is not worth the pixelated furniture. that they have done, its not just habbo matters, you are calling actual people stupid, and it is horrible to think that someone so vein is calling someone else stupid, even although they have never met this person, these people may not know alot about habbo, but hell, they might be a scientist for all you know!


All you have said is that I am wrong for calling people stupid. Good detective skills, Batman.

No actually, i have done something that you have never done, and that is give reasons WHY you are wrong, and it is wrong calling people stupid, and as i said in the post above, they might not understand habbo, but they could be as smart as einstein...

[Hippygurl101]

Hmm This thread is interesting, One thing is that i hate the word 'Noob' with passion. as to be honest everyones new to things and so why should we judge others. But if i had to use it i would actually reserve it for scammers hence "Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid" is the action of a scammer. Im saying there stupid, maybe not in mind but in the action.
Some people do feel it worth stealing a measly few credits, thats how petty life has become.

I would also stay where does one define the 'your a stupid person' barrier to someone who actually made an honest mistake. Maybe someone did something like accidently download a keylogger from a friend who they thought to be trusted (Believe me this happens.), do they want to be told there stupid for making a mistake? not particularly.

I also wonder why one wants to evoke capitalism into habbo? Im not much of a marxist not wanting vast segregation between the masses. But then again hey thats a personal point of view.

[Mentor]

Quote:
However, only stupid people would actually HACK the habbo servers, seeing as the prison time is not worth the pixelated furniture

Okay, but first of all you said scammers and hackers are not STUPID but then u just said they are stupid, they cannot be stupid if they hack the hotels servers, they are obviously smart, but it just wasnt a very smart action, as another smart philosopher said 'It takes an idiot a lifetime to make a maggot, yet he has created thousands of gods' It isnt the religious reasons i am looking at, but it shows that just because there actions aren't smart, doesnt mean they AREN'T smart...

he said there anrt any real hackers on habbo as real hackers woulnt be stupid enogh to try hack it. You imly a hacker has tryed to hacvke the habbo servers, athogh as in X's orignal post, hacker is what "idots" call the common scammers. Scammers arent noobs, there uslay very exsparced players, the only rsik is being baned from the holtel so many do it becuse its so easy.




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Only stupid people think that hacking the Habbo servers are impossible. However, only stupid people would actually HACK the habbo servers, seeing as the prison time is not worth the pixelated furniture.
that they have done, its not just habbo matters, you are calling actual people stupid, and it is horrible to think that someone so vein is calling someone else stupid, even although they have never met this person, these people may not know alot about habbo, but hell, they might be a scientist for all you know!

1. you comment on thsi alredy
2. No one smart enogh tobe a scintoist would be stupid enogh to hack habbo :/


One thing is that i hate the word 'Noob' with passion. as to be honest everyones new to things and so why should we judge others. But if i had to use it i would actually reserve it for scammers hence "Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid" is the action of a scammer. Im saying there stupid, maybe not in mind but in the action.

Yes evryone is a noob at one point, im a noob at php, im leanring it? its not an isnult. A scammer is not a noobm as if they can scam there unlikly to be new to teh hotel.
Evryoen starts as a noob, its not a bad thing, if someone calls you a noob and you are, hwo can that be offencive? its just the ovios :/

[Hippygurl101]

You say its not an insult. But it is. I have seen it used nearly everyday by someone in order to offend someone else. People hold onto the fact that they dont find it insultive as replacement that its ok to use it. I know people who get offended by it, and jsut because there new to the hotel why should they be ok with it because its the 'obvious'

I think that the term 'Noob' if used should not just apply to newer members. I mean it may be derived from the word new, But as people class it as the stupid actions of a person then a scammer easily falls in there.

[Michael.]

However, only stupid people would actually HACK the habbo servers, seeing as the prison time is not worth the pixelated furniture.

Okay, but first of all you said scammers and hackers are not STUPID but then u just said they are stupid, they cannot be stupid if they hack the hotels servers, they are obviously smart, but it just wasnt a very smart action, as another smart philosopher said 'It takes an idiot a lifetime to make a maggot, yet he has created thousands of gods' It isnt the religious reasons i am looking at, but it shows that just because there actions aren't smart, doesnt mean they AREN'T smart.

Stupid
1. Not clever or thoughtful.
2. Without reason or common sense.

Scammers & Hackers are NOT stupid in the sense of the 1st definition, as they have an indepth knowledge of the hotel and how it works, as highlighted by X in one of his posts.
What X is calling scammers & hackers is the 2nd definition of stupid.

[Hippygurl101]

I would say though they lack thought in how they actions offend others. But that is more a personality trait then anything else. I fully agree scammers fit the 2nd definition.

[la-ur-en]

Scammers & Hackers are NOT stupid in the sense of the 1st definition, as they have an indepth knowledge of the hotel and how it works, as highlighted by X in one of his posts.
What X is calling scammers & hackers is the 2nd definition of stupid.


How exactly do you know this? Did he tell you? He may have meant either definition or both definitions...

Oh yes, and did you not see the little bit where i put 'he is obviously smart, he is not stupid, only his action was stupid', use your eyes mate, thats what their there for!

[Mentor]

Most scammers arent stupid in ether ways, if they were to dumb or were noobs they woulnt be able to scam, and the only reason most scams work is becuse as x said, some habbos are pretty stupid, if you goive oyt your password its your falt, your told at least 80 times your not supposed to by habbo, wich does show most habbos must be stupid, as to most people not giving out your password would fall under common sences.
Most scammers scam for fun, rather for the furi they may get, if your stupid enogh to give out a pasword to someone on habbo you real do deserve to have your furni taken, theres no other explinition for goving away your password than blatent stupidity

[Hippygurl101]

Uh, People deserve to if there that stupid? How harsh is that. No one deserves to be scammed. Someone made a mistake typed there pass in, so we justify the fact the scammers are allowed to take it?
Why dont we just say that scammers of lovely smiley people..and thye just take what they rightly deserve.. Wrong they take for fun? yeah well that is stupid for one thing. They take for furni again stupid. Im saying they are stupid, because i dont class this 'Noob' as applying to someone new to the hotel. I class it as someone whos actions are stupid, thoughtless, and selfish without any common sense. Could you think of a better description for a scammer?

[Mentor]

Yep, i know a few, they do it becuse they find it funny people are sad enogh to cair about loosing a few pixles, was roghly the opinon. plus they get free stuff, temporaily (he gets baned ofetn, athogh now has taken to speding it out over a serises of clones)


Anyway how do you accidntly type your password, i dont realy have any simplathy to those who get scamed, if there stupid enogh to give out there passowrd or cahneg there email in my opinon they deserve it.

[Hippygurl101]

Well, I suppose we will differ. I dont think people deserve to be hacked. Yeah in the end its jsut pixel furniture, but someone has still spent money on that furniture. Its the same as theft, Just last week i got my wallet stolen in a club and its just. Evil and unfair.

[Michael.]

Most scammers arent stupid in ether ways, if they were to dumb or were noobs they woulnt be able to scam, and the only reason most scams work is becuse as x said, some habbos are pretty stupid, if you goive oyt your password its your falt, your told at least 80 times your not supposed to by habbo, wich does show most habbos must be stupid, as to most people not giving out your password would fall under common sences.
Most scammers scam for fun, rather for the furi they may get, if your stupid enogh to give out a pasword to someone on habbo you real do deserve to have your furni taken, theres no other explinition for goving away your password than blatent stupidity
Say I parked a car in a car park and left my doors wide open, should someone jump in and steal it? No. Of course not. Why not? Because no one should steal. Give me the arguement that I shouldn't have left my doors open and I'll laugh it off, cos even if I leave my doors open, no one should touch it!

Scamming is STEALING, and it's not just virtual points they lose, its REAL MONEY. Your hard earned pounds and pence people! Wake up!

[Hippygurl101]

Say I parked a car in a car park and left my doors wide open, should someone jump in and steal it? No. Of course not. Why not? Because no one should steal. Give me the arguement that I shouldn't have left my doors open and I'll laugh it off, cos even if I leave my doors open, no one should touch it!

Scamming is STEALING, and it's not just virtual points they lose, its REAL MONEY. Your hard earned pounds and pence people! Wake up!

Ah Men to that. Just because they might give there pass out by mistake no one should take it and use it. They have no right.
(I wouldnt leave my car unlocked thou.. But thats cos i trust no one aroudn here.)

[Mentor]

Say I parked a car in a car park and left my doors wide open, should someone jump in and steal it? No. Of course not. Why not? Because no one should steal. Give me the arguement that I shouldn't have left my doors open and I'll laugh it off, cos even if I leave my doors open, no one should touch it!

Scamming is STEALING, and it's not just virtual points they lose, its REAL MONEY. Your hard earned pounds and pence people! Wake up!

Giving out your password, isnt like leaving a car door open, its mor elike handing over your credit card along with pin number, and car keys, then showing them to your car and letting them drive off

[Hippygurl101]

Uh your wrong there, because when they accidently say their pass in no way are they letting them take there pass and use it, or saying they can go ahead and scam them. All there doing is making a mistake. A person that then takes there pass and uses it are going ahead and stealing of them. There in the wrong, they dont have to take it. They dont have to, but they big fat do it anyway becasue there stupid and selfish. And no-one deserves to be the victim of them.

[GommeInc]

If you are too stupid to give out your password, why not kill yourself or just not play anything online, people saying they were convincing are way too stupid for there own sanity.

[Mentor]

So if you go to dogy bit oif london, giev someone your moble phoen along with pin codes. thats an accidnt as well by your standareds?

[la-ur-en]

If you are too stupid to give out your password, why not kill yourself or just not play anything online, people saying they were convincing are way too stupid for there own sanity.

I'm sorry, but that's just a little harsh...
Just because you're stupid doesn't mean you dont deserve to live...
Especially if all you have done that is 'stupid' is got scammed on a computer game, I think you took that a little far there, and also you said ' why not kill yourself, or just not play anything online' thats a big comparison, as you would never kill yourself over it, and just because you get scammed on habbo, doesnt mean you cant play anything online'.
I'm sorry, but you cannot compare a computer to your life, and you also cannot compare stupiditity to your life!

[Michael.]

So if you go to dogy bit oif london, giev someone your moble phoen along with pin codes. thats an accidnt as well by your standareds?
All I'm trying to say is, if you left your car with keys in the engine & open, NOONE AT ALL SHOULD TOUCH IT! It belongs to you and people should accept that you've left your keys in it and move on! Just because you're giving them an opportunity to steal something very easily doesn't mean they should do it.

[Mentor]

Not everyones going to respct that. And on habbo peopel have afr less acir for these morals as its realy is only a laod of pixles.
I Know of no way in posiiblty of giving somoen your passoword other than complear and utter stupidity. Its no somthing you can do by accidnt or when your in a hurry, its not somthjiong u could accidntly leavs somwhere, you woudl have to go out of your way, and simply tell them it. So you may as well just give them teh furni for nothig anyway.

[Hippygurl101]

But the fact is the morals are wrong. Its something within a person to take something that doesnt belong to them to use it. All Im trying to prove is that scammers are stupid because they lack thought for others and common sense.

[dj-ally]

I did read it all it basicly does make sence -_- ecept the new meaning 4 n00b is a non hc person i dounno if its only on .ca but....

[Mentor]

They dont lack common snecs and arnt stupid. its stupidy of others that allows teh to scam, they themslevs must be smart enogh to pull it off. Yes ist a thoughless action, if i get scamed, im not going top balem habbo, if your scamed its your falt. peoples have trye, but u can see threw them with simple logic. Anyway If you get scamed by a good scammer you will never know you were scamed at all. some of ther ideas are pretty clever. but scames liek gestting your password are just simple trciks that in most places woulnt have a hope of working? if you cant secure a passoword how do u hope to survie in teh real world?



I did read it all it basicly does make sence -_- ecept the new meaning 4 n00b is a non hc person i dounno if its only on .ca but....
I doubt all canadianas are that stupid, shore therare alot of idiost whop get the meaing wrong, but not everyone?

[Demi]

A lot of people on Habbo are stupid. Aside from the grammatical issues I could get into, let me explain what I mean.

n00b. Yes, everyone's favorite insult. But, why? What does it actually mean? Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid, as it is derived from the term "Newbie" which denotes someone that is new to a site.

So, would a scammer be considered a n00b? Most assuredly not. They are far from it. Most scammers have some working knowledge of the hotel, they know how to get the information they need from people, and they are good at what they do. Some scammers are so involved in their scams that they actually even set up flashsites mimicing the habbo log-in applet. Very clever in it's own right.

So, anyone that would call a scammer a n00b is a stupid person, and is vastly under estimating them.

Next is one of my favorite stupid phrases, "I have been hacked!" No, you have not been hacked. You did one of several very stupid things.


You gave out the email address your habbo account is registered with.
You downloaded a program for "free credits" or maybe a "dice rigger" to cheat on Habbo yourself.
You went to a link outside of www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au (Or whichever Hotel you use.)and fell for a fake log-in site.


Think about what you are saying. Do you think someone that has the skills needed to actually hack into your computer would waste their time on pixelated habbo credits when there is so much money that could be stolen? If your answer yes, then you are a stupid person.

Habbo Trading. I am sitting in my trade shop on Habbo and a stupid person asks me what I want for my throne. There are several things wrong with this scenario from the begining.


The description of my shop clearly states read the stickies.
The sticky tells how much I want for my throne.


I tell them to read the sticky, then a little while later I get a reply similar to, "OMG U R A SCAMMER." Now, why am I a scammer by asking 25 HC sofas for my throne? Why am I a scammer for asking for 10 Creds of furniture for a Holodice? THe only response I can ever get is because that isn't worth that much, which I reply, "To me it is." Of course, this makes them "LOL" and tell me I will never sell it. Which is exactly why it is 25 HC Sofas in the first place.

Anyone that would call someone a scammer for wanting to evoke capitalism in Habbo is a stupid person.

And my favorite group of stupid people are people that get scammed. If you get scammed you HAVE done one of the following (VERY few exceptions).


Downloaded a keylogger.
Gave your password to someone.
Gave your personal email address to someone.
Clicked Agree on the trade box too quickly.
Gambled at a casino.
Fell for a fake log-in site.


If you do not have the brains to keep yourself from being scammed by one of these OBVIOUS scams, you are a stupid person.

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?


Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.


It's that simple. 6 things.

And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.) If you were Perm Banned, you were banned by a Staff member, and not just some Hobba. Perm bans are not given out lightly and to get one you have to either do something VERY wrong, or have a history of doing the same thing over and over again.

My last one will be for those members of this forum that will not read this far into my post and will actually reply (Yes I am foretelling the future here) "That was way too long, I ain't even going to read that." If you aren't going to read a post, why would you even type that out? Some jerk like me may actually be laughing at you before you even type it, knowing how much of an idiot you are in advance.

Well, that about does it for this bit..

X

:eusa_clap

hell yeah you are right
i also got banned for flooding
but hey its life
i never went round saying "look i got banned, pleas edont do iut again mr hobba"
anyways i also did read all what you have said

[la-ur-en]

All I'm trying to say is, if you left your car with keys in the engine & open, NOONE AT ALL SHOULD TOUCH IT! It belongs to you and people should accept that you've left your keys in it and move on! Just because you're giving them an opportunity to steal something very easily doesn't mean they should do it.

I do agree that nobody should touch it...
Leaving your engine on and doors open on your car, then somebody coming along and driving it away, IS classed as stealing...
On the other hand though somebody said

Its like giving them your car keys and showing them to your car

That wouldnt be classed as 'stealing' because you 'GAVE' them your car keys, this means you gave them permission to do whatever they want with them, and if they want to drive the car that the keys belong to, they are entitled to do so...

I still think stealing is wrong though, nobody should steal, and the thing is, people on habbo jump at the chance when they see another habbo saying there own password out... I may never have stopped anyone from getting scammed, but i try to tell people and get the message across about scams, unfortunately some people don't listen, but they choose not to, so we can't force them to, as it is there choice, not ours, and if they want to give away their habbo to a stranger, we cannot call them stupid for it, as they are entitled to do whatever they want with their habbo

[Mentor]

I do agree that nobody should touch it...
Leaving your engine on and doors open on your car, then somebody coming along and driving it away, IS classed as stealing...
On the other hand though somebody said


That wouldnt be classed as 'stealing' because you 'GAVE' them your car keys, this means you gave them permission to do whatever they want with them, and if they want to drive the car that the keys belong to, they are entitled to do so...

I still think stealing is wrong though, nobody should steal, and the thing is, people on habbo jump at the chance when they see another habbo saying there own password out... I may never have stopped anyone from getting scammed, but i try to tell people and get the message across about scams, unfortunately some people don't listen, but they choose not to, so we can't force them to, as it is there choice, not ours, and if they want to give away their habbo to a stranger, we cannot call them stupid for it, as they are entitled to do whatever they want with their habbo


yes but for them to have your passowrd. you GAVE them your password. its not like you left it sitting on a pixlated kichcnen table.

[GommeInc]

Here here,

Teach La-ur-en the n00b a lesson. If you give your password to someone, no one should show pity as you are so stuid enough to give it awat, especially for 'free credits' and 'free rares etc'. If you have been hacked by downloading a 'magic tool' then you must be stupid!

[Michael.]

We're a victim of our own greed.

[Mentor]

If you give out your password. I have no simpaty for you, and if i did, i woulnt exspect any, giveing oput your passowed is just stupidlty.
If you downlaod a habbo tool and get keyloges, i have even less simathy as you rather than just getting it for stupidty, get it a punsimnt for trying to scam of cheet themesvles.


We're a victim of our own greed.
I agree on that one. It etnds to be greed that allows some people to get scamed

[GommeInc]

Cant people learn these simple things

1. Habbo Hotel is not life.
2. Habbo Furni does not exist.
3. You don't own the furni.
4. If you have a lot of furni on Habbo, gd 4 u, you're not rich.
5. Your Password is YOUR password!!!
6. LOG IN TO SODDING HABBO, NOT ANOTHER SITE!!!!

[la-ur-en]

yes but for them to have your passowrd. you GAVE them your password. its not like you left it sitting on a pixlated kichcnen table.

Yes, thats what i said, people gave them their password, which means the scammer can do whatever he wants with that peice of information... That's why afterwards i said 'I still don't agree with stealing'

I have no sympathy for anyone who gives out there password either, but i don't think they are stupid, they did a mistake, everyone on this earth is entitled to mistakes...

To be honest, i think people who 'scam' are 'idiotic' as they are stealing something that will never be worth anything. The fact still remains that they are stealing something that was worth something to someone, but if another habbo gets scammed, it was there decision, they may not have picked that decision, but it was their fault, and they can learn from there mistakes...
I got scammed ages ago (it wasn't a big scam though) somebody said to me 'I still have iones throne in a present' and i said 'cool, i have got the holo-girl' and so we traded, and when i opened it, it was a duck...
I learnt from my mistake though, and i never got scammed again...

There is a diffrence between 'getting scammed' and 'losing you car' though, 'cause the average habbo only spends about £50 on habbo, and a car is worth something like i dont know, say £4000 (average) so you are losing alot more! and also, you can trade a car in for money, but you cant trade in habbo furni!

[Mentor]

You may not notice youve jsut admited to lieing as erlyer, you siad you have NEVER been scamed.
Giveing out your password is IDIOTIC. You dont need to be told. its common snecs.
Your scam, yes its its psoible to fall for. But then again, when thogh about it, you woulnt notcie that happening is not only imposible, but taht you rely shoulnt tarde with someone with an errors as ther would be a cahnces of furni loss anyway. there are many other people in the hotel.
you sya habbo furni isnt worth anything, and habbis are stupid to scam it, seriosly i think osmeone who waist 50 pound on it is teh one with teh problems. Scamers dont do it for gain, they do it for fun, and so tehy can have nice rooms and pay nothing.
i doubt most people even know who scammers are, you any get a cople of idiost asking for pasowords here and there, anyone who falls for them desvers it, if u get scamed by good scamers you owulnt no it happened and woulnt compleain. i know people that scam, and its not like they havnt rryed to get my stuff, i reiles thst stuff has no worth so its just a joke.

[Hippygurl101]

Hmm Joke. But you have used your real money to buy such furni and so in many ways when people take that furni there taking your money. It is of course peoples choice to spend so much money with the risk that they may have it all taken away from them. I think the fact is that we are aware that there are people out there willign to steal others for 'fun' I mean there are many criminals in the real word stealin for 'fun' but they dont get away with it do they.
Ok lets say you spent 50 quid on habbo and then had everything stolen cos ya best made stole youraccoutn cos they guessed your pass being i dont know your pats name.birthday etc then taking that 50 quid. Its ok they get away with it end of story.
IN Real life if soemone stole 50 quid of you, you would be fuming and say a crimiunal was caught they would have charges aganist them and be punished. (prb by our law standards community service but anywaay). Im jus saying there is a difference to the real and habbo hotel bu that there is so amny transactions one puts into habbo that gettin scammed is a evil process.

[Mentor]

Its realy your falt thogh, all you need is just a tiony bit of common snec to avoid being scamed. A passoword tahts not stupidly easy to guess. DONT give it out to anyone under nay circumsatnces. If you get a keyloger form downloing a tool, the person who keyloged you is probly more in teh right than u are, as your braking the habbo way by downlaoing it anyway.
Once your moneys in habbo its gone, thers no way of turning habbo furni back in to real cash, so stuff on habbo is worthless. when u get boared of habbo all it does is go to waist. scammers probly keep laot of furni in circtlion. They are not stupid, the only reason tahy can scam is becuse other habbos ARE stupid. If you cant keep a passowrd to your slef dont by the furni to start with.

[Hippygurl101]

OK One People are stupid to download tools, and if they get keyloggers then it is there fault, but ther person providing the service is as much to blame, There amking it available for people to take. I mean its like saying the drug dealer isnt at fault if the people he supply die/End up in a hospital bad someplace. Alot of the reason people download such things is the way its advertised and so there are at blame aswell.

All I can say is if you ever get scammed, evernthrough any means then I hope you would willing to call yourself stupid. By anyway at all... after all It would be all your fault now... Hey not even the scammers fault.. They take none of the blame at all do they? Im more inclined to accept that people make mistakes, and ones and they pay for that but they dont deserve to be labelled stupid. Everybody in the world makes mistakes.. But you wouldnt call everyone stupid.

[Mentor]

Well, actaly, i think it would be quite easy to make teh clame everybody in the world is stupid, as albert instine said (badly quoted) "there are to things than are infinate, the univers and human stupidty, athogh the 1st im not shore about" i know its misqouted badly, but still rohly the same thing. You see stupidly most the time in most circumsances. Anyway tahts anotehr matter.
Scammers take advantage of stupidty, thats how the scam, if people went stupid they woulnt be able to, There just takeing advnatge of th situretion, in other ciurcumsatnces they may even be called entrpenuers.
If you downlaod a tool teh keylogs the punishment to trying to cheet habbo.

[Hippygurl101]

I agree on the tools thing, But actuaslly I think its hard to label everyone stupid I mean were the curies stupid when they found the cure for cancer? Was Flemming stupid when he created Penicillin.. No. Einsein was him self a brilliant scientist who we couldnt claim was stupid.
The fact that scammers claim of such 'stupidity' or an honest mistake as i like to call them, just makes them worse.
Im pretty sure entrepenuers dont take advantage of situations that in the real world would put them behind bars for theft...

[Mentor]

Takeing advantage of siturtions is what entripuse do. aka microsfot, even thogh now the EU is forsing them to stop, took avantge of the compute market by making it so other opriting sytesm coulnt work there software, and took advnatge of being an os produser top push out competing media players. EU now is foring them to change, but thats stil teh reson microsoft is so big.
Humans as a rase do tend to be stupid. Humans do stupid actaions, make stupid desiions, ist human nature, alot of the time its shown anaimals liek rats have more common sence than us. I could giev a very good exspample but it owuld probly offened a few people.

ps. there is no cure for canser? its a mutaion?

All mistakes are acats of stupidiy, if soem people just cant fase up to facts, ive done stupid things, somtiems complety idotic, everyone does, but if you cant admit to them, then your the one sin trouble, scammers only scam people when there stupid, if they wenrt stupid the scams woulnt work, if people were less greedy, scams woulnt work, the greed that gets peopel scams is why people becoem scammers anyway.

[FRISC0]

I did actually take the time to read all of that, and I agree with almost all of it, except the banning part.

People do get banned for saying "bobba", why? The word's been filtered, so why bother banning people over it? It kinda takes away the whole point of the filter, really. What if the habbo's saying it are new to the site and don't know what the filter is? Yeah, maybe they should read the FAQ's. People who say "bobba" over and over again though should be banned, I just don't agree with Hobba's banning you over one solitary "bobba". And yes, I have been banned for that.

Very nice post though, X.
Thats Just what i was thinking if its filtered then they aren't avoiding the filter so they shoulden't get banned :S

[ddred]

Hey I agree with you totally. You make such a good point. People ARE stupid sometimes.

[la-ur-en]

Thankyou...
People are stupid SOMETIMES.
This means that people can be stupid at times, but this does not make them 'stupid'...

[Hippygurl101]

I just dont feel that people should be blamed over the scammers who are doing the actual wrong act themselves. Yeah people make mistakes, stupid mistakes buty what should we turn around and say.. 'My god I just made a stupid mistake someone better come scam me so I can face up to it and get what I deserve.' Unlikely.

Rats actually lack a Theory of mind which most humans posses this includes the abilities of self recognition, role taking, decision making and common sense, they do not hold such as there brain size and equivilent match to weight to body ratio wouldnt work, and this has been shown in many pyschological/scientific trials. (Thought Id just add that in.. why not.)
Also the curies founded the use of chemotherapy - exposion of more chmicals to the mutation which was original brought about by such a chemical., These cells but these can be shrunk and eliminated by the use of chermotherapy (Again thought Id just add in..)

[la-ur-en]

I agree with you hippygurl101, people shouldn't be judged upon for other peoples selfish actions, if people are edged over to a scam, they obviously weren't wary about it happening, scammers gain trust usually, they sound so innocent, then you get ****ed in like a hoover to there evil scams, and who gets the blame for it? the victim, and that isn't right, as if it wasn't for the scammer trying to scam them in the first place, they never would have been scammed!

[Mentor]

A scammer did teh scaming, but you let them. You could have ealy avoided it, but simple logic does not seme to be common place upon habbo.

Ps. i said common sence, not coniosness, rats and most other anaimals on many occions show them selves to have far more than most humans, humans may have the copasity to be much smarter, but i can deffntly say, alot of people dont use it alot of the time.

[Hippygurl101]

Uh Yeah I wrote about Common sense.... Not whatever tht other word is.. I was jsut showing you some psychological studies I have found on my course on the theories of human behaviour. Anywaay.
Its not like people stand there and go 'Roll UP Roll UP come and take my account' Thats just stupid.. No one lets them intentionally.. They make accidents.

[Mentor]

well actaly, ive seen a scame where someoen scamed himslef in front of poeple, then got a few to donate. It is scray how easy it is.

I cannot thin kof any possible excuse to giving your password out. Yet so many people do, and then ru around screeming theve been hacked, ill admit its not the majority, but i cannot think of any other word to describe that sort of behavior.
Anywayi just noticed im sitting deffneding X's post. hes the one who wrote it so he probly be bettre justfiedinbg what he said. I agree whith his posts, hes said what mnay people have been to scared to say. There are idiots on habbo, yet i do admit, athogh it seems like the majority, its most likly not, as you only realy noticed the idots while the normal people just get on with thinsg as normal. Its like the conspt, of if someone goes to a theam park, and enjoys, it they tell one person, if the hated it they tell several, wich im using to say, the bad things are much mroe noticble and spred far more than the good things, in this case, people pay the idots more attention, while the normal people dont realy show up..... im just going to hope you get that parts point, as i got lost in making it.

[Hippygurl101]

Firsty you would have to define what the line between 'normal' and 'Idiots' is.
Secondly people spread the bad things because it makes people feel better to find faults in things as people are usualyl mora adverse to gossip and rumour of this type. arent we a great humman race.
Thing is alot of scams dont happen instantly these scammers win people over, say there friends, and gain the habbos trust with a false sense of security then like ask for there pass misleading them.. Or they ask them to chnage there email addy for them. I mean It soudns inviting doesnt it free creds and all. People Make a mistake and we have to upset them more by blaming them on top of this.

[Mentor]

Maybe if it happened once, it could be mistake, but then peopel do it again, and again, i know peopel who've been scammed 6 or 7 times, its so simple not to be scamed, but the people just dont seem to be interting in hearing it, most of the habbo site is made up of, DO NOT GIE OUT YOUR PASSWORD. and keep your deatls pernal messages, yet people still dont seem to learn, ill admit, when i was new to habbo (noob) the freecredit offers looked very relistic, they aks for my password, even at that stage, im ovioly not going to give out my real password, even if i have no furni at the time, i created a flace account for it. i could have give out my real one, but i thoght it over, this is before i ever even gave the site a proper look over, it was mont kater i first disided to actaly buy furni on it, by that time, id got sum idea of the system. I found out other poeple have take the same intive, and created, a bogus account, if they do try these things, thats i would class as common sence, you sstill have no idea if its possible, yet you at least make a conditgeny to it being flase. giving our pass strait out to a site is stupid, if i gave my pass out and lost all my stuff, it would be my flault.


ps. teh line between nromal people and idots, is one can learn from mistkes, one doesnt.

[Hippygurl101]

So now were back to Noob meaning new again. Soo confusing boy.
Anywaay Yes people learn from there mistakes.. But guess what?
People make mistakes and then they learn from them.
So They make one mistake there nomral but there also an idiot cos there a noob cos theyve given out there pass.
Thats one argument that goes in circles...

[Mentor]

Giving out my real pass has never actaly happened, i still made the mistke of believing it, i leanr from it it hasnt repated, noobs often havent yet made the mistake, tahst wh ythere noobs, the idots our one thats made the mistake many many times, and just arent learning from it. Plus i stick with my idea its a complty and utterly stupid mistake, i may have made it, but thats doesnt change how stupid it actaly is.

[GommeInc]

Perhaps people find it fun to get scammed?

[la-ur-en]

I don't think people would find it fun to get scammed!
Mentor, in your last post you said

i created a fake account for it
Then you said

month later i first disided to actaly buy furni on it
Okay, so you went out and bought furni, just to prove to yourself that this guy was scamming?
That doesn't make sense, if you know he was scamming, then why didn't you just say 'go away' and report him, instead of wasting money on something you already knew about. Either you are telling a lie there, or you did really get scammed, or infact you are 'stupid'
Giving your password out is dumb, as there has been warnings and everything on habbo, but that doesn't stop people from doing it, they are not 'stupid' for doing something that they want to do, it is not the end of the world if they are scammed, i would call a drunk man driving 'stupid' because he is putting others in danger, but there is nothing we can do about it, standing calling them stupid wont stop it from happening, it will make people feel useless, and will lower there confidence to the fact that they wont play habbo again...
The only thing we can do is to try and avoid it from happening, and to warn people about it, if a guy wants to drive after he is been drinking, it is up to him, he will suffer the conciquences, we can't stop him, we can only warn him about the dangers, and if they take the information in, they will stop themselves from getting scammed... but standing there calling him stupid will only make you more angry, and make people more upset, as people have learnt from there mistakes, and getting scammed is there own personal mistake/decision. If they get scammed, it is there fault, they are not stupid because the only person they have really hurt is themsleves...

[Mentor]

What are you one about? Broght furni to prove someone was scamming? What. I brogh furni cuz me and gommeinc were building, well gommeinc. Whats this got to do with provoing someones a scammer :/.

Ps. u may find it fun if your on a bet taht u can get scamed before the other peroson

[la-ur-en]

What are you one about? Broght furni to prove someone was scamming? What. I brogh furni cuz me and gommeinc were building, well gommeinc. Whats this got to do with provoing someones a scammer :/.

Ps. u may find it fun if your on a bet taht u can get scamed before the other peroson

Just shows you what grammical mistakes can do, mislead people, OH WAIT A TIC, so can cretain scams, it can mislead people, and make them give them there password, people who scam dont just say 'give me your password' they have ways of doing, they entise you to do it, it is as if they are hypnotising you! and not all scams are password scams, they can be furni scams!
People gain your trust, and they think they have known you all there life!
And who's to say that people you know wont scam you? If you have met someone and don't have close contact, but still talk, and you trust each other, just because you know them, doesn't mean they wont scam you at any point, or vice versa, if you know them lots, doesn't mean they wont scam you!
To be honest, whoever scams are lowlifes for wanting things that arn't worth anything, and habbo has to get there act together, if someone scams someone, if reported, it should be taken care of straight away!
If the scammer is caught guilty, they should get fined, for stealing, its not just pixels they are stealing, its money!

[Mentor]

people try and scam me, i just dont fall for it.
One intersting thing is, when people say that if u leave furni in there rooms, athogh its a scam, when they were updating, everything in one of my firends rooms kept duplicting, its was probly just a glitch, but it aint immposible,

Ps. the eprson i know who scams, has tried on many many occiosns, and id exspect them to happen more. ps, going up to people and saying "GIVE ME YOUR PASSWORD" apprntly does work on some people... make you think :/

[la-ur-en]

Oh? so you have seen this happen? Or are you just trying to prove me wrong by telling me lies? There may be the odd occasion, but not everyone tells there password like that, its just a little common sense!

[Mentor]

seen it, been told it, heard it. ANd yes it is only a littel common snecs, tahts why i garee when X says oin his topic, some habbos are truly STUPID.
I mean if people are going to giev out a password thats easy, what the point of having one to start with?

[la-ur-en]

No, common sense is easy to have, and nobody on habbo is truly stupid if they get scammed, it is only pixels, it is not a big deal... if you give your password out, it does not mean you are stupid, for god sake, you don't know how many people you are calling stupid in just one post, people are entitled to mistakes, and they dont need idiots like you to call them stupid for a mistake!

[Hippygurl101]

Arent you Great for not falling for it.. Does that Mean everyone shoudl Be like you.. Not everyone is like you. They dont always avoid scams, soem are easily misled. The thing is we all have common sense weather you accpet that or not. Its stupid to say we dont becasue evertyone does.. Some people jus dont have such a highly eleivated sense of it. mI have common sense, im a logical person but even in my life i do things make mistakes and thats like. Everyone makes mkistakes.
I hate the fact that we seem to be letting scammers of... God are they the good people here fro teaching 'stupid' habbos a lesson (who in another thread were called normal for makin mistakes.. I cant keep count).

[Mentor]

No, but considering it does tech that there are people like that, and that they do existed, if far better looseing some worthless furni than eventaly finding someosn nicked your moble phone or your wallet, that you didnt think to put someone safe. i do think thats a valuble lesson. Im not deffeding them, im just saying, if you get scamed it is partly your fault, the scammer did it, and gets good at it, but oif you haddent partispated then there would ahve been no scam at all. Theres a diffence between a mistake and doing somthing blatenly stupid, i would barly call that a scam, tehy basily just GAVE the stuff to them. If you disagree you dissagree, but i cnat honistly belive that you think that a scam could go ahead, with the user having some part in it.

[la-ur-en]

Arent you Great for not falling for it.. Does that Mean everyone shoudl Be like you.. Not everyone is like you. They dont always avoid scams, soem are easily misled. The thing is we all have common sense weather you accpet that or not. Its stupid to say we dont becasue evertyone does.. Some people jus dont have such a highly eleivated sense of it. mI have common sense, im a logical person but even in my life i do things make mistakes and thats like. Everyone makes mkistakes.
I hate the fact that we seem to be letting scammers of... God are they the good people here fro teaching 'stupid' habbos a lesson (who in another thread were called normal for makin mistakes.. I cant keep count).

I agree, Mentor, just because you have not fallen for a scam, does not make you the smartest person alive... People think diffrently... People look at things other ways, not everyone is perfect in this world, we all make mistakes, and god, if we didn't make mistakes there would be nothing to look forward to in our lifes, as everything would be perfect, so technically we would all have everything, world peace, no world hunger, health, happiness, wealth, but the thing is, none of this will ever happen, because you will always get those idiots who will ruin it all, scams will never stop, they will become worse and worse, to the point that people will be scared to trade...
People have to stop judging the victims, and start going against the scammer, because one day it could happen to you, and you will know how it feels! Everyone has common sense, as i said in my last post, 'common sense is easy to have' because everyone has it, but common sense doesn't stop you from everything, if you arn't doing so well in a certain subject in school, doesn't mean you are terrible at everything!

[miss-t]

:o - I am... I'm stunned. That was an excellent piece of writing!
I would add 'Habbo babies' for their 'Crimes against the letter W' aswell, but that deserves a positive rep ;)

X FOR HABBOX WRITER!
soz for this but what was the point in quoting him it just makes the thread longer!
any way i think ur proving a point there gdgd! :8

[-Soro-]

I agree, Mentor, just because you have not fallen for a scam, does not make you the smartest person alive... People think diffrently... People look at things other ways, not everyone is perfect in this world, we all make mistakes, and god, if we didn't make mistakes there would be nothing to look forward to in our lives, world peace, no world hunger, health, happiness, wealth, but the thing is,fes, as everything would be perfect, so technically we would all have everything none of this will ever happen, because you will always get those idiots who will ruin it all, scams will never stop, they will become worse and worse, to the point that people will be scared to trade...
People have to stop judging the victims, and start going against the scammer, because one day it could happen to you, and you will know how it feels! Everyone has common sense, as i said in my last post, 'common sense is easy to have' because everyone has it, but common sense doesn't stop you from everything, if you arn't doing so well in a certain subject in school, doesn't mean you are terrible at everything!

What are you talking about? You can prevent being scammed with ease, this is Habbo we're talking about. Fellow Habbo's, scammers or not, have no access to you - mentally or physically. The only way you can get scammed, is by actually taking part in an action that can possibly get you scammed.

Don't compare Habbox to real life, because in the real world someone can walk right up to you and top you. On Habbo, you can't physically get hurt, and if it harms your mind - you have problems!

What I'm saying is, yes, it can be easy falling into a trap if you're not careful, but those who do aren't always the innocent victims, because on most cases would have done something that the Habbo homepage would have warned you not to.


if we didn't make mistakes there would be nothing to look forward to in our lives

LMAO! Please explain that a little further, as I do not understand how looking forward to something and mistakes link. What's perfectness got to do with this anyway?

Jees guys, this is HabboHotel you know.

If you think this deeply about it then you have my sympathy... :s

I'd like to know one, just one, story about someone who has been scammed without being greedy or getting into a dangerous situation where the possibilities are that they can get scammed.

All that perfect world stuff, I think you're talking about heaven, in which case, you need to realise that Habbo isn't all that important when you grow older.

You learn from mistakes, and some people cry about them. In actual fact, deep down they know they were in the wrong taking part...

You'll probably all misunderstand my point completely, and start saying I'm a scammer-victim hater and all that. Seriously though, it is not possible to get scammed on HabboHotel without taking part in a process which can possibly get you scammed. There is a way to avoid it, be careful and follow the rules.

[Hippygurl101]

"if far better looseing some worthless furni than eventaly finding someosn nicked your moble phone or your wallet, that you didnt think to put someone safe. i do think thats a valuble lesson."

Now to me that doesnt makes sense I mean why do we need to be taught lessons in life and 'valuble' ones at that yes we learn through experience and mistakes but i do not in any way think these should be done in soem deliberate way to help us. Its like congratulating scammers for helping us enter the real world. Yes its far worse having your phone or wallet nicked (which I have both had happen to me) But god sake being scammed wouldnt of helped me from these situations would it?

"and if it harms your mind - you have problems! "

Thats thoughtless I mean some people have spent money on it.. I grant there desision, dont they have some right to actually get a lil upset/annoyed about it, Your saying having emotions make you have problems.

"I'd like to know one, just one, story about someone who has been scammed without being greedy or getting into a dangerous situation where the possibilities are that they can get scammed."

Easy I was on habbo a year ago and i realised this girl i knew from one of my classes was on. We used to talk on messenger (She was already on it before I started.) and we used to like exchange work we hadnt done.. So one time she sends me our biology homework over msn, I mean I trusted her why wouldnt I.. Luckily for me i happened to have AVG on messenger and found she had attached a kelogger on the file, she was trying to get me. I was lucky but this kind of thing does happen.. Friends you trust backstab you using your pass, keylogging you.

[-Soro-]

"if far better looseing some worthless furni than eventaly finding someosn nicked your moble phone or your wallet, that you didnt think to put someone safe. i do think thats a valuble lesson."

Now to me that doesnt makes sense I mean why do we need to be taught lessons in life and 'valuble' ones at that yes we learn through experience and mistakes but i do not in any way think these should be done in soem deliberate way to help us. Its like congratulating scammers for helping us enter the real world. Yes its far worse than having your phone or wallet nicked (which I have both had happen to me) But god sake being scammed wouldnt of helped me from these situations would it?

"and if it harms your mind - you have problems! "

Thats thoughtless I mean some people have spent money on it.. I grant there desision, dont they have some right to actually get a lil upset/annoyed about it, Your saying having emotions make you have problems.

"I'd like to know one, just one, story about someone who has been scammed without being greedy or getting into a dangerous situation where the possibilities are that they can get scammed."

Easy I was on habbo a year ago and i realised this girl i knew from one of my classes was on. We used to talk on messenger (She was already on it before I started.) and we used to like exchange work we hadnt done.. So one time she sends me our biology homework over msn, I mean I trusted her why wouldnt I.. Luckily for me i happened to have AVG on messenger and found she had attached a kelogger on the file, she was trying to get me. I was lucky but this kind of thing does happen.. Friends you trust backstab you using your pass, keylogging you.

1) If you think losing a pile of pixels is worse than losing a mobile phone, you're lying. I've been mugged before, when I was 11, I haven't ever had a worse experience. I've been scammed, yes, when I was new to Habbo. I admit it was my fault...

2) When I said if it harms your mind then you have problems, I was simply saying that if you had your priorities right you would have worse problems in your life than losing 30p worth of pixels. I apologise if I upset anyone, but jees - when you grow up (I'm not saying this in an offensive way), you will understand that when you lose something that's virtual, via a computer, it's not all that bad.

3) LMAO! That story is not scamming, it's called hacking - there's a difference. A keylogger isn't a scam, it's a virus that can take any passwords, and she was a traitor yes... So you're whole point there is completely invalid. Infact none of it was valid, because you didn't even get hacked in the first place..

Once again I shall ask, if anyone knows one, just one, story about someone who has been scammed without being greedy or getting into a dangerous situation where the possibilities are that they can get scammed.

Not so easy, is it?

PS: I knew I would get a reply like that. Which is why I wrote what I did at the bottom of my previous post. Don't ever say losing furni is worse than being mugged in real life - because anyone sane will tell you it's not, mugging is a serious crime.


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Everyone:

A scam is where the person intentions are to get as much profit out of the relation, with complete disregard to personal feelings and finances of the victim.

A partial or 'honest' scam is when a person does not break a relation because of financial motives, when she would otherwise end it.

In both cases the 'victims' are guilty of being gullible at least. Often this is the result of not asking the right questions and not doing any thinking!!

[Hippygurl101]

"1) If you think losing a pile of pixels is worse than losing a mobile phone, you're lying. I've been mugged before, when I was 11, I haven't ever had a worse experience. I've been scammed, yes, when I was new to Habbo. I admit it was my fault... "

I never said that beleive me a mobile phone theft is far worse I know that too, Ive had it happen to me. It was horrible. On a second occasion I had my bag stolen off me. I meant 'Its far worse having your..' There Just a typo I apologise. I was suggesting the logic that we should have these things done to use to teach us valuable lessons was off. I was mot suggesting Thta it was worse ok. Im perfectly saine, Thanks.

"2) When I said if it harms your mind then you have problems, I was simply saying that if you had your priorities right you would have worse problems in your life than losing 30p worth of pixels. I apologise if I upset anyone, but jees - when you grow up (I'm not saying this in an offensive way), you will understand that when you lose something that's virtual, via a computer, it's not all that bad."

Excuse me, You dont know anything about me, You said it is not an offensive way but how can I not get offended. I have my lifes priorites fine, I realsie that theres more important things than a loss of pixels.
All i said i if you read that people have a right to be a bit down that someone stole somehting from them that was all.

"3) LMAO! That story is not scamming, it's called hacking - there's a difference. A keylogger isn't a scam, it's a virus that can take any passwords, and she was a traitor yes... So you're whole point there is completely invalid. Infact none of it was valid, because you didn't even get hacked in the first place.."

Oh I was meerly answering. What you said was "getting into a dangerous situation where the possibilities are that they can get scammed." Yes it was hacking but i was trying to display that some people may have these situations that they get scammed in that all they did was a trust a friend.

You got my reply, whatever 'type of reply' you wanted, well it doesnt always work like that.
Btw
"In both cases the 'victims' are guilty of being gullible at least. Often this is the result of not asking the right questions and not doing any thinking!!"
Lets insult the victims more. They made one mistake.

[-Soro-]

"1) If you think losing a pile of pixels is worse than losing a mobile phone, you're lying. I've been mugged before, when I was 11, I haven't ever had a worse experience. I've been scammed, yes, when I was new to Habbo. I admit it was my fault... "

I never said that beleive me a mobile phone theft is far worse I know that too, Ive had it happen to me. It was horrible. On a second occasion I had my bag stolen off me. I meant 'Its far worse having your..' There Just a typo I apologise. I was suggesting the logic that we should have these things done to use to teach us valuable lessons was off. I was mot suggesting Thta it was worse ok. Im perfectly saine, Thanks.

"2) When I said if it harms your mind then you have problems, I was simply saying that if you had your priorities right you would have worse problems in your life than losing 30p worth of pixels. I apologise if I upset anyone, but jees - when you grow up (I'm not saying this in an offensive way), you will understand that when you lose something that's virtual, via a computer, it's not all that bad."

Excuse me, You dont know anything about me, You said it is not an offensive way but how can I not get offended. I have my lifes priorites fine, I realsie that theres more important things than a loss of pixels.
All i said i if you read that people have a right to be a bit down that someone stole somehting from them that was all.

"3) LMAO! That story is not scamming, it's called hacking - there's a difference. A keylogger isn't a scam, it's a virus that can take any passwords, and she was a traitor yes... So you're whole point there is completely invalid. Infact none of it was valid, because you didn't even get hacked in the first place.."

Oh I was meerly answering. What you said was "getting into a dangerous situation where the possibilities are that they can get scammed." Yes it was hacking but i was trying to display that some people may have these situations that they get scammed in that all they did was a trust a friend.

You got my reply, whatever 'type of reply' you wanted, well it doesnt always work like that.
Btw
"In both cases the 'victims' are guilty of being gullible at least. Often this is the result of not asking the right questions and not doing any thinking!!"
Lets insult the victims more. They made one mistake.

Ok I'm not gonna number them, simply because I can't be bothered now - But in your previous post you said "Yes its far worse than having your phone or wallet nicked", which is why I thought you mean.. what you said...

When I said 'you' I said it in a general way, as if I was saying it to the person who believes that, I don't know you no, I don't want to know anything about you, frankly I'm not interested in you. I wasn't directing that at you.

What do you mean you were merely answering? I asked for a story about a scam, and you told me about a hack story - that doesn't really back up your point now does it, when I was refering to scams.

When I said I knew I was going to get a reply like that, I didn't demand any type of reply I wanted, I know it doesn't work like that because I've been posting here since last July.

Gullible isn't an insult, if you look at it in it's true meaning you'll see I actually took that whole paragraph from a definition off of the internet, meaning the scammers victim didn't thouroughly check things out before taking part in such actions.

[Hippygurl101]

Yeah I admit I made a typo in my earlier post.. I shall edit that.
Even if the 'you' wasnt at me and aimed at every one its still a patronising statement. Its like what Elders have drummed into you since you were old enought to talk back. Why do we need to be told to 'When we grow up' This place is for alot a way they can be themselves.. I mean its like everyone is immature or something. People even from an early age have a concept of the world and morals and whats right or wrong.

By the way I used that example of hacking similar to scamming to reflect the fact that alot of people get scammed by people they trusted, people who had taken them in and misled them or friends that turned there back on them.

I also meant the insult was saying they were not thinking. I did not say it was being Gullible.They had a moment of mistake. Unforunately some people do get led by scammers in the gullible sense pretedning to be there friends.


All we seem to be doing is responding points in the others posts. So Ill just say that I think that anyone gettin scammed is wrong, and That the scammer should take much more blame than anyone else it wasnt the victims motive to go and get scammed was it. People shouldnt be told that its a valuable life lesson.

[-Soro-]

I read the first bit, then got bored... The when you grow up thing is to those who get emotionally scared by being scammed on Habbo Hotel, I can't be bothered to argue anymore, seriously. I've made my point, you've made yours, let's agree to disagree.

I've pretty much answered everything you've just said already about 9 posts ago, and I'm not gonna keep posting the same things over and over.

[Hippygurl101]

Ditto. So we agree to disagree. I very much doubt people get emotionally scared, But If they do well thats them.. people are unique in thoughts and reactions.This is not an argument.
It is a 'Debate' If it was an argument.. we wont imagine that, lol.

[-Soro-]

True, debates are tiring.. I've started losing the will to type. I go now. Eat. Hungry. Back 2 minutes. Gone. B-...

[GommeInc]

Being scamed is fun :p

You scam the scammer by hiding the furni, giving out your pass, then finding their IP by getting them on a forum, give it to habbo and they have perm ban muahahahahaha

[-Soro-]

Somehow, I do not understand why you look at it in that way - Let's debate! No j/k, please no more debating, anything!

[X]

Thankyou...
People are stupid SOMETIMES.
This means that people can be stupid at times, but this does not make them 'stupid'...

Yes it does, stupid.

When you are being scammed on habbo, you are being stupid. When you log off and go for a jog, you are NOT being stupid.

Thank you for saying that people are stupid, it makes it easier for me that way. Not that I am going to really defend anything else I have said in this thread, as everything I have said has sound logic behind it.

[BlackGarden]

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?


Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.


It's that simple. 6 things.

Well, actually, I got banned when I did absolutely nothing wrong (see linky (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=16231&page=3)), and I have a friend who got banned for sending "too many" calls for help. It's not even like they'd sent 2 or more calls for help within 15 minutes. Some unscrupulous Hobba was probably just sick of seeing them calling for help and decided to "eliminate" the problem. There are many cases of Habbos being banned unfairly, and I don't doubt that this has affected the status of perhaps a handful of Hobba applications.

Just thought of another example. Every month or so there are huge protests, usually in the Hallways. I think these protests are pretty pointless to be honest, especially that "protest against Hobbas". In many of these "protests", there was some serious mass-banning by staff of anyone who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Say you just walked in there randomly, with no idea that there was a protest, wandered around a few empty stretches of hall, then into a massive group of people, and a few seconds later, had a ban message on your screen. Don't you think that this is an unfair ban?

Other than that, great post. Add "protests" to your list :D

[Hippygurl101]

My Mate was banned for a week for 'Spreading Rumours'. He doesnt have a clue what hes meant to of said.

[-Soro-]

What's the big deal with bans? Most like them are only temporary, and a Hobbas job is to distinguise possible distractions from their work, if they make one rash decision - so what? don't we all?

[Hippygurl101]

Its Just Id like to know what my ban is for... Not be up in the air on what I did wrong.

[la-ur-en]

The big deal about bans is because you cannot become a hobba/habbo staff, and sometimes your reputation goes down, and also it makes you quite wary of habbo, because if you did not know what your ban was for, you would become quite annoyed...

[ramjet]

I would just like to point out, that not everyone are idiots, and your message makes no sense, what so ever.
You cannot call so many people idiots, your an idiot yourself, your use of words were terrible there, you are calling people idiots, yet you did not explain properly why they are idiots, nobody is an idiot, the correct meaning of idiot is a foolish person, and only foolish people call other people idiots, as they cannot admit to themselves that they are idiots, and people who take 'hack' as that type of meaning, must be an idiot themselves, and yes, some people may hack people to get onto there habbo account, just because it doesnt happen alot, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

And also, scammers might not be 'noobs' but they are 'foolish and selfish' and to be honest, you must be pretty 'noobish' if you decide to spend some of your time hacking people on habbo, for pixels.

And the other reason people may not read your whole article is because, some people may not like being called 'idiots' all the way through it, i cannot explain my anger in that comment, you obviously aren't that bright either if you cant go a whole paragraph without insulting people.

Also, if you didn't want to sell your throne then the 'SMART' thing to do is to put on your stickie 'throne not for sale' maybe then you will stop being called a scammer, as 25Hcs is quite alot to ask for, especially for a throne, as they are only worth 17 Hcs... So in this case, you are the idiot for trying to make people trade you for alot more than the original price, a few more hcs more isnt much, but 8 is, and obviously any 'idiot' would figure that out...


Altogether, your whole article is offensive, and 'idiotic' so instead of calling others idiots. look at your own article, that will show you how much of an idiot you are yourself...

Its people like you who make habbo an unfriendly enviroment.

habboxs rare values arent correct they are a guideline imp.net sez they are different to 17 hcs evry1 has there own interpritations, so u are THE idiot

[-Soro-]

The big deal about bans is because you cannot become a hobba/habbo staff, and sometimes your reputation goes down

That's the point, it's a punishment after all - isn't it?


and also it makes you quite wary of habbo, because if you did not know what your ban was for, you would become quite annoyed...

If you were banned, you should 1) either be able to understand why your were banned, maybe sometimes guilty by association, or 2) they would tell you in the ban message, and their job is to distinguish trouble, not satisfy you!

[Patriotism]

I couldn't agree more
I mean, if people are going to insult others
Why use what they are?


I Read it all and found in interesting. Nice work X

[Hector-Chubb]

Chill out. It's only a game. Whats the point of posting a huge lot of in-depth stuff on a game? I agree with the rules and that they are idiots who will spoil other ppls fun but its not like out of control!

[Drewar]

You deserve an award for this post! My thoughts are exactly the same! I have been playing since 2001 and never have I once been scammed. Half of the people who lie and say that "I've been scammed" they weren't really scammed they just want their friends to donate furniture.

It's just horrible

[scottish]

I Aint Reading that :p

[cocaine]

Hmm, I didn't read it all :o I didn't have much time. But anyway, I agree with everything except the Banning bit for a "Bobba".

Just because you say one word which is already filtered, you should be banned for that :o

[Jõnathan]

TRUE STORY THAT HAPPENED 2DAYThe classic XxX6Lizzie9XxX Big Brother re-opened 2day (yay!) and this habbo sed i was a noob cos i wear green trainers. WHAT A MORON. Listen Jim-Jam01- (yes, i'm givin' his name) you are a noob. SO HA!

[lucyecc]

good ideas guyz :) keep posting good things it helps alot!

[Nelson111]

A lot of people on Habbo are stupid. Aside from the grammatical issues I could get into, let me explain what I mean.

n00b. Yes, everyone's favorite insult. But, why? What does it actually mean? Most everyone agrees that it means someone that acts stupid, as it is derived from the term "Newbie" which denotes someone that is new to a site.

So, would a scammer be considered a n00b? Most assuredly not. They are far from it. Most scammers have some working knowledge of the hotel, they know how to get the information they need from people, and they are good at what they do. Some scammers are so involved in their scams that they actually even set up flashsites mimicing the habbo log-in applet. Very clever in it's own right.

So, anyone that would call a scammer a n00b is a stupid person, and is vastly under estimating them.



Next is one of my favorite stupid phrases, "I have been hacked!" No, you have not been hacked. You did one of several very stupid things.


You gave out the email address your habbo account is registered with.
You downloaded a program for "free credits" or maybe a "dice rigger" to cheat on Habbo yourself.
You went to a link outside of www.habbohotel.co.uk/.com/.com.au (Or whichever Hotel you use.)and fell for a fake log-in site.


Think about what you are saying. Do you think someone that has the skills needed to actually hack into your computer would waste their time on pixelated habbo credits when there is so much money that could be stolen? If your answer yes, then you are a stupid person.

Habbo Trading. I am sitting in my trade shop on Habbo and a stupid person asks me what I want for my throne. There are several things wrong with this scenario from the begining.


The description of my shop clearly states read the stickies.
The sticky tells how much I want for my throne.


I tell them to read the sticky, then a little while later I get a reply similar to, "OMG U R A SCAMMER." Now, why am I a scammer by asking 25 HC sofas for my throne? Why am I a scammer for asking for 10 Creds of furniture for a Holodice? THe only response I can ever get is because that isn't worth that much, which I reply, "To me it is." Of course, this makes them "LOL" and tell me I will never sell it. Which is exactly why it is 25 HC Sofas in the first place.

Anyone that would call someone a scammer for wanting to evoke capitalism in Habbo is a stupid person.

And my favorite group of stupid people are people that get scammed. If you get scammed you HAVE done one of the following (VERY few exceptions).


Downloaded a keylogger.
Gave your password to someone.
Gave your personal email address to someone.
Clicked Agree on the trade box too quickly.
Gambled at a casino.
Fell for a fake log-in site.


If you do not have the brains to keep yourself from being scammed by one of these OBVIOUS scams, you are a stupid person.

Getting Banned. If you have been banned on habbo, you did something wrong. I was banned once on habbo, for flooding. I did it, I own it. It was a 2 hour ban and I have not been banned since. I do not understand how people can do something wrong, get banned, then be mad at Habbo and the Hobba that banned them.

Don't want to be banned?


Don't swear.
Don't flood.
Don't script.
Don't scam.
Don't harass others.
Don't give out your personal details.


It's that simple. 6 things.

And anyone that gets a PERM ban is even more stupid for complaining about it. (Or even TELLING anyone about it for that matter.) If you were Perm Banned, you were banned by a Staff member, and not just some Hobba. Perm bans are not given out lightly and to get one you have to either do something VERY wrong, or have a history of doing the same thing over and over again.

My last one will be for those members of this forum that will not read this far into my post and will actually reply (Yes I am foretelling the future here) "That was way too long, I ain't even going to read that." If you aren't going to read a post, why would you even type that out? Some jerk like me may actually be laughing at you before you even type it, knowing how much of an idiot you are in advance.

Well, that about does it for this bit..

X

totaly agree with every word, i am so glad that there are some clever people out there on habbo. and that it isnt just me who thinx the word noob is annoying. also i would hav thought that noob was the double slang for a ***** (single slang being **** double slang being the slang for that)

[.Ex-]

Amen to that.