You know, Just chillin, having a bud, breaking the laws of physics... True... True.

[Karl]

Well I was playing around with shapes on Excel making graphs and stuff then it got me thinking... About the laws of physics and area... And all area broke down and re converted should cover the same area right?

For example... If you break down a 32x32 inch square, you'd be able to rebuilt it in a different form but it would not miss any thing out, there would be the exact same ammount of area right?

Well, I did the same with a triangle and I was amazed to find that even though the same are is used, it needs more to complete the triangle.

Can you figure this out? Or have I broke the laws of physics? =P

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5528/triangle8mn.gif

[Adam$]

OMG. Freaky. O_O

[Charlie]

Erm.. What?

[Karl]

Erm.. What?

Either;

A) You're confused at my amazement.
B) You're confused at the whole thing.

WHICH IS IT BOY!?

[Charlie]

Either;

A) You're confused at my amazement.
B) You're confused at the whole thing.

WHICH IS IT BOY!?

Girl and B) I'm confused at the whole thing.

[Dupion]

swear i've seen it before. ;>

[Karl]

Girl, boy... Same thing...

Well lets use something simple... Say you have a bar of six chocolate pieces and you layed them out in a row, you would always have the same area when you change it right? You would still have 6 chocolate pieces that cover the same area when broken down.

But this, when the shapes were broken down they cover LESS area in the SAME shape with the same area. Which is really odd.

[Charlie]

Oooh, I get it now ;)

[Rawr]

Karl you do such random things in your spare time. :p

[YellowParasol]

I don't get it..

[Revis]

That's not the laws of physics, it's like some unknown maths Law. I guess if you broke the law then Officer Whiplash will have to pay you a visit...
http://halloweencostumeboutique.com/images/2170.jpg

[issaa.]

Wowowowowowow.

[Infrontation]

Rofl, all you people that don't understand it are morons ;D I'm sure this is a simple answer too this.. *Stares at pictures..6Hours later "Not sure yet"* ;o
Tis a good one

[Homesrfan]

You didn't make this...
I've seen this A BILLION times on optical illusion sites.

[Infrontation]

You didn't make this...
I've seen this A BILLION times on optical illusion sites.
Tell us what it is before I phone the little google man too get me a site too the answer *cries*
Edit; Found it

[Jordan3]

Lmao, that's messing with my head, I'm trying to work out why it doesn't work. Aaah!

[Infrontation]

Lmao, that's messing with my head, I'm trying to work out why it doesn't work. Aaah!
There are not triangles, infact they are quadrilaterals! If you look ever so closely you will see a slight concave in both triangles. The rate at which they rise will change. The both reach the same points of 5 High and 13 Long but one of them uses on less square too get there (the bottom one). That is as simple as I could put it ;)

[Jordan3]

There are not triangles, infact they are quadrilaterals! If you look ever so closely you will see a slight concave in both triangles. The rate at which they rise will change. The both reach the same points of 5 High and 13 Long but one of them uses on less square too get there (the bottom one). That is as simple as I could put it ;)

Holy crap...

[Infrontation]

Holy crap...
Yes indeed, you make presumptions that you do not even though in most cases. You presume that these are of course triangles and they're nothing but triangles and you start too measure out the squares too make sure the litle guy on paint didn't sneakily change one the four shapes too be a square less off!

[Jordan3]

Yes indeed, you make presumptions that you do not even though in most cases. You presume that these are of course triangles and they're nothing but triangles and you start too measure out the squares too make sure the litle guy on paint didn't sneakily change one the four shapes too be a square less off!

Gee, why didn't I think of that eh?

[mynameishelen!]

Weirdddd ;s

[Infrontation]

Gee, why didn't I think of that eh?
Lmao cause most normal people's brains don't think about increasing the slope on triangles by about 0.1cms -.-' At least your sane unlike the guy who made this who is now either in a maths lab or in a luoony bin

[ilovejordan]

Girl, boy... Same thing...

Well lets use something simple... Say you have a bar of six chocolate pieces and you layed them out in a row, you would always have the same area when you change it right? You would still have 6 chocolate pieces that cover the same area when broken down.

But this, when the shapes were broken down they cover LESS area in the SAME shape with the same area. Which is really odd.

Cos in rl some pieces of chocolate would break off ;]

[Infrontation]

Cos in rl some pieces of chocolate would break off ;]
Meh not neccesarily ;> You could stick the chocolate into a oven and cut it ;p

[ilovejordan]

When you cut it the pieces would drop off with it like millimetres of it ? :]

[Embean]

Umm, I get the chocolate thing, but WTH at the first post, i seriously don't get that :(

[Neversoft]

You have broke the laws of physics.

[Infrontation]

Umm, I get the chocolate thing, but WTH at the first post, i seriously don't get that :(
Read my previous posts replying Jordan's queries ;0

[ilovejordan]

Umm, I get the chocolate thing, but WTH at the first post, i seriously don't get that :(


Basically the 2nd triangles at a tiny tiny tiny tiny x infinite slope

[nvrspk4]

They're not the same size...that is probably it. Or maybe its the slope that's different.

EDIT: Rofl you guys figured it out too fast ;[

[Infrontation]

Basically the 2nd triangles at a tiny tiny tiny tiny x infinite slope
They're both sloped ;) The first one is sloped more than the other though

[ilovejordan]

They're both sloped ;) The first one is sloped more than the other though

SHH :'( CONFUSIN ME ITS NT NICE

[Infrontation]

SHH :'( CONFUSIN ME ITS NT NICE
Not Nice, But good fun ;)

[Groovy]

omg..how wierd :s :s

[ilovejordan]

Not Nice, But good fun ;)


*beats with eloy*

[Neversoft]

omg..how wierd :s :s

Weird? Its mega Confusing. I just look at this Thread and my brain explodes.

[Karl]

Not Nice, But good fun ;)

Them being sliped by like 1 MM doesn't relieve the fact that there is 1 whole block missing.

[Infrontation]

A) Would you people read the thread I have already gave you a explanation for those that are confused on the ending of page 2/
B) If you continue too beat me with eloy I shall take it and eat it
Edit; The angle is tilted by 1degrees or so. The shapes use more room when they are tilted upwards and ultimately create that gap I think .

[ilovejordan]

Weird? Its mega Confusing. I just look at this Thread and my brain explodes.

*hits dead brain with eloy*


*continues to hit infrontation with eloy till he dies*

[FlyingJesus]

Also.. if you look at the squares around the shapes (the grid, basically), the amount of spacing is different between the two.

[Infrontation]

*hits dead brain with eloy*


*continues to hit infrontation with eloy till he dies*
*Grabs Eloy "Munch"*

[Neversoft]

*hits dead brain with eloy*


*continues to hit infrontation with eloy till he dies*

Its good I have spares..

[ilovejordan]

*Grabs Eloy "Munch"*


*kills*

[Karl]

Stop spamming says Nurse Karl.

[ilovejordan]

Stop spamming says Nurse Karl.

Nurse cassie says : Want some eloy? :]

[Karl]

Nurse cassie says : Want some eloy? :]

Eloy is dead, I killed it.

Now no spamming kplslolz.

[ilovejordan]

Eloy is dead, I killed it.

Now no spamming kplslolz.

No eloy pwnz you.

[Infrontation]

OKAY DWEEBS >> http://www.grand-illusions.com/triangle.htm
IF YOU WANT TOO KNOW THE ANSWER GO THERE.
P.S. SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY QUITE FUN I SHOULD DO THIS MORE OFTEN AS I KNOW HOW MUCH PAIN YOU GO THROUGH WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!!!!!!! OH AND DO THIS11£!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO LYKE YOU HAVE WASTED YOUR TIME READING THIS AND UMM LYKE ILUALL TRUELLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY

[ilovejordan]

YOU LUV ME MORE LIKE <3

[Karl]

http://www.grand-illusions.com/images/trig.gif


Lol at that.

[ilovejordan]

*confused even more*

[Embean]

popcorn is confused.
lolol.
(,,,)

[Neversoft]

http://www.grand-illusions.com/images/trig.gif


Lol at that.


WTH!!1!11


E=MC Squared

[ilovejordan]

popcorn is confused.
lolol.
(,,,)

yes i am :(

[--ss--]

O.o thats wierd

[ilovejordan]

O.o thats wierd


Read page 2 *beats with eloy*

[Infrontation]

That equation isn't too bad ;> If you have a calculator. While researching I found a equation 6 lines long infact there was 3 of them. All similar too that ;l

[what the hell?]

i've seen it before.

[Skittles]

i know the answer.......it has something to do with an answer and numbers

[HUGECOOL]

OK. The thing is - the big triangle is not really a triangle. The smaller ones - red and green - are triangles, but the angle at the bottom left of each triangle is not the same - the red triangle's is a little narrower than the green. So, in the top picture, when you put the red triangle in the lower left corner, then the big shape really has a bit of a "dent" where the two smaller triangles meet - i.e., the line going from the lower left corner to the upper right corner is not really a straight line. And in the bottom picture, there is a bit of a "bump" where the two triangles meet. Not much, but enough to give you room to squeeze another square in there.

How do I know this - well, if you count the squares as if the big shape was really a triangle, you'll see that the area should be 1/2 of 5 (height) x 13 (width), or 32 1/2 square units. If you add up the areas of all the smaller shapes, you get 32 square units on top and 33 square units on the bottom (including the white "hole"). So, the big shape can't really be a triangle.

And to get even more pedantic, for the big shape to be a triangle, the red and green smaller triangles would have to have the same angle in their lower left corner, and if we calculate that angle, we find that they are not the same, so the line in both shapes going from lower left to upper right is not really a straight line, but a "bent" one.

Red Angle = arctangent(3/8) = 20.556 degrees
Green Angle = arctangent(2/5) = 21.801 degrees

Close, but no cigar!

Still a GREAT illusion - I'm sure it drives most people crazy!

[Grindie]

You do cover the same area, just in a different way :rolleyes: