Conspiricies.

[Revis]

Right, me and Adam have been mates for a few months. We laugh and joke about life and whatever but today we actually had a serious descussion.

Adam - My Cellphone is Ringing, I Pick it Up, It's the Angel of Death, and, he says, What's Up.. says:
and it's been more than a few months

The events on the 11th of september were extremely well publicised with alot of video footage, photos and eye witness accounts and from these people have come up with conspiricy theories surrounding the events.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194
This video highlights most of the reasons behind the speculation.

I have been to Ground Zero and it was perhaps one of the most moving experiences in my short life and I really can't belief that the American government could inflict this upon their own people. Adam contradicts and think's there was something going on on that terrible day.

Although I think the Twin Towers were brought down by terrorists, I believe there has been a huge cover up at the Pentagon. Perhaps terrorists hijacked a plane full of important officials, maybe it delves into the illuminati, I'm not too sure and i'll read up on it.

We were just wondering what your views on the subject were.

[Adam$]

After seeing this video posted on www.abovetopsecret.com (http://www.abovetopsecret.com), I decided to watch it, and was amazed.

Obviously, I cannot prove who actually is behind the whole act. I do believe Al Quaeda has a part to play in this, as it was what was publicised in the news.

I am undecided over this matter, there are views for each party.

No matter who did this, I have complete and utmost respect for those injured, killed, and relatives of whom, who were victims of this fatal attack.

I guess I am unable to prove what really happened on that day. I do, in a way, believe the towers were an act of terrorism, as led by the media.

[RedStratocas]

The twin towers were attacked before, it was terrorists. The first attack didnt bring them down or leave many dead.

Attacking Iraq is a conspiracy, since Iraq had nothing to do with it, but I dont think 9/11 is. Just my opinion.

[Ezzie.]

This you may call me insane but this is the works of the new world order, manipulating terror to manifest the common folks hearts which'll in turn give over civil liberties for false protection, the new world order's aim is to create one supreme government that governs over the entire world, there aims include:
reducing the population by 2/3 eg: not giving aid/diseases etc
making all currency obselete and introducing a cashless bill
and more...
Basically it's all being done by bankers/politicians and it is not a lie, I'm a christian and it explains parts of what is going to happen in the bible in revelations.

[Revis]

Yeah, I thought that they might have something to do with it if it was a conspiricy. I'm slightly low on what to believe anymore.

[Ezzie.]

All this goes to ONE thing actually two I guess God and satan, if you read in revelations it says alot of what will happen

[Largo]

What does conspiricies mean?

[Revis]

What does conspiricies mean?
It's like a cover up. When something happens and if you look hard enough you can discover the gorvernment is behind it.

[Largo]

Oh, like they're faking it or something? Like they did a mistake first then used the event as an excuse? I never really cared about this conflict. I'm just trying to enjoy life while I can. It's nice to know young people are looking into events like these and trying to figure out the core of the event, very clever!

[Revis]

Oh, like they're faking it or something? Like they did a mistake first then used the event as an excuse? I never really cared about this conflict. I'm just trying to enjoy life while I can. It's nice to know young people are looking into events like these and trying to figure out the core of the event, very clever!
Might lead to understanding in the future. I'm interested in history and took it at GCSE level so I'm taught to analyse things like this.

[Ezzie.]

You'd better look into it the nwo might appear in our life times which means that Jesus christ and also the anti christ will make their appearances

[Largo]

I hate looking back in our past, it disgusts me how people faced each other with much hostility.

[Ezzie.]

And I live in Lutterworth 20miles from coventry (I was born in coventry) :D ccfc for life <3

[Revis]

The past can teach us alot. The failings in Vietnam can be used so we succeed in Iraq. Although it is different terrain the gurrela (sp?) tactics the enemy is using are similar.

If me and Ezzie beg Micky Adams to look back to 1987, maybe we'll have a chance of playoffs next season...

[Largo]

The past can teach us alot. The failings in Vietnam can be used so we succeed in Iraq. Although it is different terrain the gurrela (sp?) tactics the enemy is using are similar.

If me and Ezzie beg Micky Adams to look back to 1987, maybe we'll have a chance of playoffs next season...
The gurrela tactic is where you run, attack foe, and run and hide? Repeating that concept over and over again? Sorry for all these dumb questions, I'm curious, and I love learning new stuff. :$

[Revis]

The gurrela tactic is where you run, attack foe, and run and hide? Repeating that concept over and over again? Sorry for all these dumb questions, I'm curious, and I love learning new stuff. :$
Basically yeah. Large, conventional armies face the enemy head on. Gurrelia is where they try and ambush, flank and basically fight dirty. B*stards.

[Largo]

[Lee has proved himself as a good student but lacks enthusiam and motivation for the subject. If he put more effort into the work than wasting it on creating sardonic comments he could do extremely well...] I saw your comment in the other thread, I just wondered if I can ask you a few questions, what does .. enthusiam mean? And does sardonic comments mean mocking comments? My friend told me that. :rolleyes: Even though the gurrelas fight dirty, atleast they inflicted a lot of damage on their foes, clever meanies. :rolleyes:

[Revis]

Enthusiasm is like motivation. It's like wanting to do something, getting excited over it. Sardonic comments are just sarcastic ones, so yeah, mocking comments would be right.

[Mentor]

Well for all you conspircy thearist out there, a few interesting facts.

Asama Bin larden, was Trained by the CIA and was previosly a "personal" friend of bush.

America currently has a manpoly over the old industryc since its all traded in dollas so they get most the money back, Just before the irack was sadam was discusing moveing to the euro.

Reasnly Iran decised it may go to the euro also...Whos america starting to build heat up agaist now?

Bush doesnt seem to cair when harsh dictatorships like North Korea build atomic wepons, starnge how he only minds in certain contarys, even thogh half of its fictoinal "/

The Irack war doctrin had been written years in advance to the actal war by bush seniior and his staff...

The war on terror, has allowed govemnts in so called free contarys to loose alot of that freedom. In america they can now detain people indefinlty without trial or charged, tap phone lines, No privacy. People get fired form jobs for speaking out about bush. "/

Sames happening in the uk, with identy cards and all that, the uk has had laws that limit the govements power to stop them abusing it, its stood for centursy now, The war on terror is now removeing them "/
Terrorism is a crime, a terrorist can be charged and held legaly... so why do they need to hold people without any charges "/

[Largo]

So you have no motivation for the lesson? But you seem very clever and into history. Can I get some examples of those sardonic comments? I need a laugh, I'm falling apart.

[Revis]

So you have no motivation for the lesson? But you seem very clever and into history. Can I get some examples of those sardonic comments? I need a laugh, I'm falling apart.
Can't remember them off the top of my head but one was about a book we were reading, the question was "What would you do if you were ill" so I answered "not alot, i'd be in bed... ill".

Mentor has put a thought into my mind. Would the Bush administration be willing to kill thousands of it's own citizens so it could restrict the countries human rights?

[Largo]

Your questions are too highly complex for me. :(

[Revis]

Your questions are too highly complex for me. :(
Yup, but they improve my history and might make my teacher respect me. My brother took history and got good A levels so I have alot to live up to :(

[Mentor]

Can't remember them off the top of my head but one was about a book we were reading, the question was "What would you do if you were ill" so I answered "not alot, i'd be in bed... ill".

Mentor has put a thought into my mind. Would the Bush administration be willing to kill thousands of it's own citizens so it could restrict the countries human rights?
Bush has been quoted many times on saying how a dictatorship would be far easyer to run, and other merits.... Dictator ships usealy dont have to many problems with killing there own people, so if that was where there going, theres nothing to stop them from doing it.
If its not, then they wouldnt do it, and would have no reason to do it to start with... its kinda a paradox so i dont think makes much diffence "/

[Largo]

Aww! You look up to your brother or does your Mom expect you to be as good as your brother?

[Revis]

Aww! You look up to your brother or does your Mom expect you to be as good as your brother?
My teachers expect me to. "Your Neils brother, he was a great pupil, did really well, I expect you to beat him."

Generally, a dictatorship is easier to run. Look how the Nazi part took control of Germany from the chaos of Wiemar.

[Mentor]

My teachers expect me to. "Your Neils brother, he was a great pupil, did really well, I expect you to beat him."

Generally, a dictatorship is easier to run. Look how the Nazi part took control of Germany from the chaos of Wiemar.
Yup all it takes is mass geniside of a few socal groups, killing off any talented people, scientists to artists. and there you have it a nice easy to run dictaorship....

[Revis]

Yup all it takes is mass geniside of a few socal groups, killing off any talented people, scientists to artists. and there you have it a nice easy to run dictaorship....
Just brainwash your citizens to believe your ideas and eliminate your oppositions. Was 9/11 a way of brainwashing Americans to believe the planned wars were justified?

[Mentor]

Seems overkill for that purpos, america was stupid enogh to vote him in, convinceing them to go to war for no reason woulnt have been much of step from that "/

[SHEEPY]

this video circles this forum every couple of months. it's utter bs.

fin.

[Revis]

Seems overkill for that purpos, america was stupid enogh to vote him in, convinceing them to go to war for no reason woulnt have been much of step from that "/
The whole point of this thread was to try and find a reason for the Government to attack the twin towers. The main driving point behind a conspiricy is a motive and I can't find one for this, making me think it was just a terrorist attack.

[Mentor]

but the video had nothing to do with the orignal topic and was posted later on by someone answering it, so what diffence does that make?


The whole point of this thread was to try and find a reason for the Government to attack the twin towers. The main driving point behind a conspiricy is a motive and I can't find one for this, making me think it was just a terrorist attack.
Althogh it could be a silar thing to the regstag fire etc, id agree with you, it was too big for conspirsuy, althogh i do think theres more wieght in the Irack one, to do with the oil tradeing "/

Amasing how they can still deniy oil was an objective when it was one of the two primary objectves of the orignal mission "/

[Largo]

I hate it when people expect me to do better then someone esle, why don't they just go get laid and worry about their life. :rolleyes:

[Revis]

Althogh it could be a silar thing to the regstag fire etc, id agree with you, it was too big for conspirsuy, althogh i do think theres more wieght in the Irack one, to do with the oil tradeing "/

Amasing how they can still deniy oil was an objective when it was one of the two primary objectves of the orignal mission "/
The Reichstag fire resulted in Hitler eliminating the entire communist party from Germany. The chap who supposedly started the fire was a drunk communist who could of either been a Nazi spy or forced to do it by the SS, then boozed up so he wouldn't remember. Almost definately something going on there.

[Mentor]

The Reichstag fire resulted in Hitler eliminating the entire communist party from Germany. The chap who supposedly started the fire was a drunk communist who could of either been a Nazi spy or forced to do it by the SS, then boozed up so he wouldn't remember. Almost definately something going on there.
Naa, It was actaly discovered not long ago, in some old declasiffed logs or somthing the whole thing was documented, ive forgoetn the name of the guy who actaly did it, but they basicly got the other guy drunk and left him there "/

[Revis]

Naa, It was actaly discovered not long ago, in some old declasiffed logs or somthing the whole thing was documented, ive forgoetn the name of the guy who actaly did it, but they basicly got the other guy drunk and left him there "/
So it was started by the Nazis. Wow, clever b*stards.

Right, I'm off for some sleep.