Hiring more Super Moderators?

[James!]

Theres around 4 Super Moderators, and when theres perverted morons like that Aaron guy showing pictures of his privates to under 13's we need Super Moderators.

nvrspk4
8Freak8
properclone
Eckuii

It's usually only 1 of them online at once.

[MattUH]

I kind of do agree. ;D

[Seatherny]

properclone & 8freak8 arent super moderators, they are site managers but have been put in the super moderator usergroup for security! Also, in my opinion 2 super moderators is fine as there are a lot of moderators!

[Wizzdom]

properclone & 8freak8 arent super moderators, they are site managers but have been put in the super moderator usergroup for security! Also, in my opinion 2 super moderators is fine as there are a lot of moderators!

Not when normal mods cant remove sick images in signatures :)

[Eckuii]

I was contacted about it and removed the images.

[Callum.]

Yep, i pmed eckuii and the images was removed. There should be more mods around some sections of the forums.

[Neversoft]

As Saurav said, only Eckuii and nvrspk4 are actually Super Moderators. But there really doesn't need to be more, There are Moderators assigned to every forum.

[KickerFliper]

Iv noticed most moderators that are on the forums are un-active, they dont edit rude posts, dont warn people, just either dont come on, or post junk in spam and show off.....

More Supers needed <3

[Eckuii]

The Forum moderator of a Forum cannot be on HabboxForum every minute of Everyday. That is why there is Super Moderators, nvrspk4 comes on mainly at night time due to the time difference, im on during the day. If there is a problem with anything Moderators can post in a special thread asking Super Moderators to deal with something, or you can PM me or nvrspk4

[the wombats]

If a Super Mod isn't online to ban someone, I am sure an Admin will. Mods cant be on all day as we do have lifes you know.

[KickerFliper]

The Forum moderator of a Forum cannot be on HabboxForum every minute of Everyday. That is why there is Super Moderators, nvrspk4 comes on mainly at night time due to the time difference, im on during the day. If there is a problem with anything Moderators can post in a special thread asking Super Moderators to deal with something, or you can PM me or nvrspk4

But thats the problem, you should have a system like most forums, set s timetable for moderators and Super Mods.

What if lots of you are on Holiday, then its an easy target.

[Callum.]

Well there needs to be a few more maybe, but like Craigex said, moderators cant be on all day. But users can help, by telling people to not click the attachments or links to websites.

[the wombats]

But thats the problem, you should have a system like most forums, set s timetable for moderators and Super Mods.

What if lots of you are on Holiday, then its an easy target.
Thats the thing, they'd be less mods on at once to do work. And people would miss shifts etc etc.

[Neversoft]

But thats the problem, you should have a system like most forums, set s timetable for moderators and Super Mods.

What if lots of you are on Holiday, then its an easy target.

Perhaps you might want to look at the Staff list? There are plenty of Moderators.

[holo-jonny]

Maybe You Could Hire Substitute Super Mods?

[Steven.]

But thats the problem, you should have a system like most forums, set s timetable for moderators and Super Mods.

What if lots of you are on Holiday, then its an easy target.

eh? You do know we have lifes aswell as you do, although i'm on most of the time, but i maybe not around or invisable, most of the time i check hxf every 20 mins if i'm not busy.

[KickerFliper]

If theres alot of moderators, why arnt they doing anything? Becuase there INACTIVE. Try sorting out the staff lists. ''/
And it would be easier with a timetable as you can have different groups, like radio stations, and you can book times that youll be online, any mod/s mod misses like 3 in a row without telling anyone, he gets fired. Simple as.

Mods dont even do much, they sit and show off their powers and post in the 'Spam' section.
They should try actually working to make this place cleaner, rather than post junk like 'O rly' in the 'O rly' Official thread -.-

[Callum.]

They ARE active, maybe you dont find that, but i think the vast majority are active.

[Lyca]

Evryone is entitled to a social life
They cant be on Habbox 24:7

[Neversoft]

If theres alot of moderators, why arnt they doing anything? Becuase there INACTIVE. Try sorting out the staff lists. ''/
And it would be easier with a timetable as you can have different groups, like radio stations, and you can book times that youll be online, any mod/s mod misses like 3 in a row without telling anyone, he gets fired. Simple as.

Mods dont even do much, they sit and show off their powers and post in the 'Spam' section.
They should try actually working to make this place cleaner, rather than post junk like 'O rly' in the 'O rly' Official thread -.-

I'm a Moderator. If you can show me a post that I've posted in the spam section, I'll happly buy you Free Vip... Same if you find a post with me going 'O RLY'

[cocaine]

It's ok, but I think Mods should be able to remove signature images and avatars.

[the wombats]

Mods cant get on the forum everyday you know?????

[Steven.]

If theres alot of moderators, why arnt they doing anything? Becuase there INACTIVE. Try sorting out the staff lists. ''/
And it would be easier with a timetable as you can have different groups, like radio stations, and you can book times that youll be online, any mod/s mod misses like 3 in a row without telling anyone, he gets fired. Simple as.

Mods dont even do much, they sit and show off their powers and post in the 'Spam' section.
They should try actually working to make this place cleaner, rather than post junk like 'O rly' in the 'O rly' Official thread -.-

Hangon.. wo wow wow.. So you're saying we have to WORK everytime we're on hxf? We get post reports, we do them whenever we feel we want to do it, like me, i normally do mine late at night as thats when im actually not bsy with my own site.

We have the same permissions as you do, we can come on here and make friends, post, spam in the sppam section, TBH, We don't "Work" here, we volounteer. ;) So we can get breaks to talk to friends, spam in the spam section etc.. like it do.

[Baving]

The way the moderation department is run is upto the forum management. There is a super moderator online most of the time with Eckuii being in the UK means the forum has someone with banning capabilities during the day time. Then with nvrspk4 in the USA the forum has someone with banning capabilites at night time.

Just because it doesn't look like there is no super moderator / admin online doesn't mean there isn't as there is the invisible button!

Giving moderators more powers than they have at the moment could cause security issues as it would mean over 30 users having acess to tamper with others forum accounts, this is why the permissions are restricted.

Moderators do have a social life, they can't be expected to be on here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They also volunteer their own time to try and keep this forum as safe as possible.

You must do your part aswell by reporting posts, therefore directing the moderators to the trouble.

If you wish to discuss the way the moderation team is run don't hesitate to PM me or seacat.

[KickerFliper]

Hangon.. wo wow wow.. So you're saying we have to WORK everytime we're on hxf? We get post reports, we do them whenever we feel we want to do it

Its you JOB to work on the forum, cant handle the pressure of working, you shouldnt be one, If you want social lifes you should try taking time off.

[MattUH]

Its you JOB to work on the forum, cant handle the pressure of working, you shouldnt be one, If you want social lifes you should try taking time off.


Sounds like someone is JELOUS... :rolleyes:

[KickerFliper]

Sounds like someone is JELOUS... :rolleyes:

NA, I wouldnt get hired anyway </3 JackHB seems to think I work for kréws :rolleyes:

Still, Mods should be doing there jobs, if theres nothing to do, then they can post, if they disagree they hould be fired </3


Oh and Track, your sigs wrong, :Jin: Passed his trial on that date, didnt get one.

[MattUH]

- Removed by .Track

Dont wish to talk to wannabes like this idiot.

[laurenx]

I think theres enough Moderators as there is, I mean they give up there time to check were OK.
I mean they put 100% effort to make us safe. Can't you just leave them alone, they work hard, so just leave them alone.

Dior.

[Seacat]

? It's not a real life job, lol. People don't have to take time off the Forum to have "social lives".. I think you seem to have the impression that Moderators sign a contract and it's a real job. Moderators don't get paid, and they aren't expected to work 24 hours per day, and of course they can have social lives AND still work for the Forum, that's not even an issue.


Its you JOB to work on the forum, cant handle the pressure of working, you shouldnt be one, If you want social lifes you should try taking time off.

Atm I'm happy with the amount of Super Mods, although properclone and 8Freak8 are Super Moderators as part of their job title only, I am sure if it was urgent enough they would ban somebody, I've actually seen 8Freak8 helping with the 'Report here for Super Mod' thread in Forum Moderators Only before :P.

As Baving said we can't give each Moderators the power to edit signatures/avatars, as its a big security risk if a Moderator got hacked. There is usually at least 2 admins online most of the day, if you can't see us we are probably invisible and there is usually always a Moderator on for each Forum as well as a Super Mod to back them up should they need assistance. :)

[MattUH]

i think some forums do lack a tiny bit! but overall Moderation team is pretty well run!

(I should know *Winks at SeaCat*)

[Steven.]

Its you JOB to work on the forum, cant handle the pressure of working, you shouldnt be one, If you want social lifes you should try taking time off.

It's not a job, it's volunteer, like Dior has stated, we don't get payed so it cannot be called a "Job"'.

We're on ALOT of time, when we can be out with mates, doing more constructive stuff, instead we wish to help people we do not evan KNOW and help keep the safe.



NA, I wouldnt get hired anyway </3 JackHB seems to think I work for kréws :rolleyes:

Still, Mods should be doing there jobs, if theres nothing to do, then they can post, if they disagree they hould be fired </3


Oh and Track, your sigs wrong, :Jin: Passed his trial on that date, didnt get one.

You say on your first post that there isn't enough moderators, then you evade the forum filter.. cause more work for us? Right.. :|.

[Encryptions!]

I believe that there is more than enough moderators to contend with the immature spamming that occasionally happens on the forums and they do a great job. As well as the administration team do a great job by picking them. Just ask yourself would you give up your day and attempt to make Habbox Forum a better place for people to visit by editing peoples post whom can't follow a simple set of rules. Most of you would just like this for the 'respect' or perhaps even the powers of moderating.

The Super Moderators do a great job and don't forget that they all have other jobs in Habbox especially Eckuii and they will also probably do a lot of work behind the scenes of Habbox. You say that the moderators are lazy or inactive I have reported quite a few incidents which have needed quick attention to an online moderator and in all incidents within 10 minutes my PM has been answered and the incident sorted so I don't see how they're lazy. If anyone is lazy it is people who just spam a forum without thinking before they post. There is a Spam forum which is used for that as long as it is in the rules of Habbox and Habbo Hotel but still you get people showing explicit content from rude pictures to abusive words yet the moderators 99% of the time seem to get the job sorted.

Before I get the immature people saying I am a suck-up then they should read some of the posts I have made in this forum. I just try and be unbiased and remain on no side towards the immatureness of some people. The people who make this forum hard for the Moderation team really should be grateful that this forum is here because it isn't actually free to run such a huge forum with a database of thousands of members.

Thats my two cents on this issue.
Encryptions

[Eckuii]

But thats the problem, you should have a system like most forums, set s timetable for moderators and Super Mods.

What if lots of you are on Holiday, then its an easy target.

We cant all go on holiday at the same time :P. Also, i'd like to see Seacats face when he is 'drawing up a timetable' I dont need a timetable. I have many jobs on Habbox, me been on a timetable would mean me doing no Moderators work, because I am not on the router. I would be concentrating on my other jobs. So when people actually PM'd me asking me to do stuff, I couldnt do it :). I dont think many forums users would be pleased with this method. Also, what if they are away? Then we have a problem with the router because it will be all messed up and some Moderators would feel like they dont want to because its not their duty to Moderate at that time.


Mods dont even do much, they sit and show off their powers and post in the 'Spam' section.
They should try actually working to make this place cleaner, rather than post junk like 'O rly' in the 'O rly' Official thread -.-

You do not see what goes on in the Forum Moderators forum. There is a thread, REPORT HERE IF A SUPER MODERATORS NEEDS TO LOOK INTO ANYTHING. nvrskp4 and I then look at that thread, we change signatures, avatars e.t.c. We assign MODERATORS to do the Spam section. We dont 'show off' our powers, we use them when we need to. If you feel a Moderator is using their powers at a wrong time please contact Seacat or Baving .


It's ok, but I think Mods should be able to remove signature images and avatars.

I dont think so, maybe some Moderators would abuse powers to change Signatures to say sommat like: Im cool - (Moderators name). That would be pathetic.


Its you JOB to work on the forum, cant handle the pressure of working, you shouldnt be one, If you want social lifes you should try taking time off.

Its not a JOB, I dont see it as a JOB. I dont get payed (Although that would be nice :P haha) for Moderating the Forum. I can handle the pressure, as can many Moderators. Time off social lifes? What would you do when your older? Not socialise? Sit behind that desk 24/7. No, I dont think Moderators wish to give up that amount of time to remove images. :).

[nvrspk4]

Hey.

Listen, one of the things you guys really have to remember is that we are VOLUNTEERS as has been stated many times. We devote an enormous amount of time as it is and just as you don't see us working our tails off does not mean that we aren't working (our tails off). No offense but I'm not sure you guys understand how hard the job is.

Ok listen, for a normal moderator, who has maybe 3 forums, lets say 1 active forum and 2 inactive forums (that's being very generous, there aren't that many moderators who have that if any.) For that moderator to check through his active forum and look through every one of the posts takes 20 minutes. If you moderate Discuss Anything or Habbo UK News and Rumours, each of those can take you 30-40 minutes. I should know, I used to mod them. I also happen to know that sometimes your job gets monotonous. You have to go through sometimes 10-20 page threads about subjects you really don't care about. Also, for us Super Moderators, to do a ban, just a plain old measly ban, can take 5-10 minutes. We have to find the user, find their offenses, then fill out a long and tedious ban report with various information and cite numerous pieces of evidence of the member's rulebreaking. Only then can we hit the ban button.

You guys say that we aren't on enough, quite frankly we are on quite a bit, just to do the required amount of work is quite a bit. However most moderators go above and beyond, I know in many instances moderators have stayed on for hours, sometimes into the early hours of the morning, one even stayed till 5 AM, JUST to sort out 1 spammer. Of course this was before SMods and all and we had like 3 admins back then, Sierk, DJ, and Proper. Maybe Jack :P

Also, now away from the time issue, what about the quality of our work? Moderators make many edits every day. You wanna see how much a moderator has done? Click on search, then advanced search. Put the moderators name in the search box on the left (search entire post for or whatever) and select sort results by posts. Then click the search button. Most of the results will be posts with something like Edited By BlahBlah (Forum Moderator): Please don't blah blah and blah. tagged onto the bottom. Some moderators don't always have many rulebreakers each day but still, they do work. I personally devote alot of time just to my jobs. I don't post in the normal forums very much, 1 or 2 posts a day, maybe 1 or 2 a week.

Now there are some of you who question the work of moderators. Well there's alot to prove you wrong just up there. Also, moderators have PMs to deal with and issues from members. Although I'm not popular enough to be PMd that frequently I do get some PMs. I usually turn around and sort it within 1-2 minutes and reply to that message if I'm online. Of course sometimes I leave Habbox on and do something else on a different site so sometimes it takes me a bit and I explain that. We do all work very hard though, and I know that people tend to do this alot which gets really annoying.

What if lots of us are on holiday? Well I hate going places so I normally don't and the chances that me and Eckuii will go on holiday at the same time are slim, the chance that all the admins and smods will go on holiday at the same time is slimmer still. A timetable. A sytem like most forums... Do most forums really use timetables? Anyway, the issue with this, what if a moderator misses his timetable? Then we're left "vulnerable". Here I have never come online and not seen a fellow (not counting me) moderator on. Very rarely have I seen no red names on the list and when I had it was back when there were few admins and no such thing as Super Moderators.

Those of you suggesting more Super Moderators and more powers for normal moderators, consider this: The more people you give powers to, the more vulnerable you are, and the greater chance that you will get hacked. Also, not all of our moderators are always completely uncorrupt, so they have to have limitations. Editing sigs and avatars gets people into a tizzy anyway, having loads do it would cause a bigger tizzy. Also, SMods are worked out, as has been stated before, Eckuii usually is on most of the day and I most of the (UK) night. Might there be an hour or 2 hour gap somewhere at some day? Well yeah maybe very rarely, but you'd be pretty sad to time when gaps are and get up at odd times just to spam a forum -.-

Just the big points I want to make. Just because you don't SEE us working doesn't mean we aren't. I know a few moderators who go on invisible mode 24/7. Also, THIS IS NOT OUR JOB! No matter how many times we say it, people don't seem to understand. It's like being in a mafia and having people tell you that you need to do raids more or whatever the heck mafias do. I may have missed some points but oh well. That's just my stance on the whole thing.

[Eckuii]

Whenever I am away most of the time, Seacat is away. This is due to us been brothers, I dont see a MASSIVE problem with this due to the fact there is about 4 other admins and 1 other Super Moderator to do things.

[JackHb]

NA, I wouldnt get hired anyway </3 JackHB seems to think I work for kréws :rolleyes:

Still, Mods should be doing there jobs, if theres nothing to do, then they can post, if they disagree they hould be fired </3


Oh and Track, your sigs wrong, :Jin: Passed his trial on that date, didnt get one.

I never said you work for them, i simply said you joined on there forum making rude posts about Habbox saying they would never find out who you were, i got someone to get your IP of their forum and then traced it on here, you then thought tasha told me your IP so she got annoyed and had a go at me, which means it must of been you otherwise how would of she known? And i will stick to you making those posts on that forum forever :) You then started accusing me of working for them. So whatever