Fur trade / Fur clothes

[ilovejordan]

What are you views on itt? I think its bloody disgusting i just watched the program with the mcartneys protestin the videos they showed had me crying blummin sick i dont see how people can wear fur

[issaa.]

its sickkk ;[

[ilovejordan]

there was this video of a seal pup being killed for its fur.. they kill them as young as 12 days old :'(

[Jordan3]

Wearing fur is horrible. Even faux fur makes me ill.

[ilovejordan]

Yea they we're saying sometimes real furs sold of as fake fur. I'm gettin rud of all my "fake fur" stuff now </3

[SHEEPY]

I'm not an animal lover or anything, but I don't believe in killing animals for fur.

[ilovejordan]

Have you seen the videos sheepy?

[splatttt]

ITS SICK

[kasi]

it's wrong...

[Groovy]

Its horrible :(

[ilovejordan]

I'm totally against it. Stella has balls though rofl she went into a designer shop shoutin her mouth off

[Colourful™]

I saw the videos, not very nice. People don't need to wear animal fur, there are plently of other clothes and materials they can wear. :s
It's just stupid, if I met the people who killed Seals etc for their fur i'd shoot them.

[SHEEPY]

Have you seen the videos sheepy?

I assume you mean the video where an animal is being skined alive?

[ilovejordan]

I assume you mean the video where an animal is being skined alive?

I meant the one of a 14 day old seal pup having its head hacked off and the one of a cat havin its head smacked off the concrete to kill it. I saw that one the dog too . So anyway yea u seen them?

[SHEEPY]

Not those ones, no. I've seen the ones on the official Peta website.

[Colourful™]

I've seen many videos of stuff like this now. But don't worry even thoguh I think killing animals for their fur is very wrong, most of them are killed in positive ways.

[ilovejordan]

I've seen many videos of stuff like this now. But don't worry even thoguh I think killing animals for their fur is very wrong, most of them are killed in positive ways.


Sure if you call having your head smacked off concrete then yea very positive :rolleyes:

[SHEEPY]

Seriously? Is he an idiot?

[ilovejordan]

Seriously? Is he an idiot?

Not normally but that post was ugh.. *cant think of the word*

[Jordan3]

Has anyone seen the PETA videos about being vegeterian?

[Colourful™]

No I didn't mean it like that.

I said I really hate animals being killed for whatever matter.

But most animals aren't killed by having their head smacked off the pavement etc.

[Embean]

Its awful, it really is so sickening. I am a true animal lover and I myself would kill myself for an animal [I'm not just saying that .. I truely would] and I can't believe the way some people kill animals [i'm not saying eating meat is wrong or anything, because I eat meat, but I think its awful how people abuse the animals, and kill them in a horrible way not giving a chrap] when i'm older I want to turn into a vegiterian, because I love animals so much, I don't think I should eat them. Fake fur makes me sick, if somebody I know is wearing it, I won't make any contact with them and I won't speak to them at all, I'll just blank them out, even if they stop wearing it, because I just think it is wrong. I own a coat with fake fur around the hood, but thats the only fake fur I own, and I think for certain it is fake. I'd know by the feeling of it. I have sponsored 2 dogs, I have adopted a dolphin and adoped a tiger, I'm going to adopt a panda next time the advertisment comes on t.v [forgot the phone number or website]. Yeah, so basically.. as you can tell. I think its sickening. And I can throw up because of it.

[SHEEPY]

You'd kill yourself for an animal, isn't that rather pathetic?

[Embean]

You'd kill yourself for an animal, isn't that rather pathetic?
If it was a pet of mine and I loved it, yeah I would. I just love animals so much.

[ilovejordan]

alex what your sayin on msn in disgusting all fur fraders kill animals unfairly ;l

[Colourful™]

I'm just saying that not everyone kills them in savage ways, the program just showed you the worst possible ways etc. I hate it too full stop but i'm just trying to tell you that not everyone kills them the same. :(

[ilovejordan]

ew ew im goin veggie now :'(

[Embean]

ew ew im goin veggie now :'(
Same, after that video. I am disturbed.

[ilovejordan]

i swear im so disturbed those seals and those cows etc omg ;[

[Frozen..]

link pls.

I wouldn't die for an animal but i think it's wrong what they do. The killers should be hanged in public i say. Only animal i'd die for is my pet parrot :)

[ilovejordan]

okaay WARNING ; THESE VIDEOS ARE DISTURBING THEY'VE GOT ME N EM CRYING N IM TURNIN VEGGIE COS OF THE SECOND ONE


http://www.furisdead.com/feat-harpseal.asp


and


www.meat.org

:'(

[MsTanya]

I cried at that seal one ]:

[ilovejordan]

same . :(

[MsTanya]

I wanna become veggie but meat is the only thing I like :|

[Frozen..]

Oh my god, this SHOULDNT be happening. Cruel isn't the word to describe it. As sad as it sounds for a boy to say this, i ALMOST cried. But i dunno how to cry, mainly because i don't know how to. Anyways, this is absolutly sick. How can they even let them do this? Do they have no conscience [sp?] ? Im officaly a vegetarian. :)

[Sazzle]

That's horrible. The people who work in places like that have no heart.

[Phorum]

I mean I'm against it but I suppose its just like getting your hair cut, shaving ect. It doesnt worry me to much

[issaa.]

I mean I'm against it but I suppose its just like getting your hair cut, shaving ect. It doesnt worry me to much
erm they are pulling the animals skin off, not their hair mate..

[MsTanya]

I mean I'm against it but I suppose its just like getting your hair cut, shaving ect. It doesnt worry me to much
Its nothing like getting your hair cut, are you that stupid?

[Frozen..]

Hair is dead, animals aren't.. until they get butchered by these killers.

[Phorum]

Its nothing like getting your hair cut, are you that stupid?
Pretty much but we need meat to survive. They are living but then there are people who kill each other for fun, not for food...

[RedStratocas]

Its stupid. Im for the boycott, there is plenty to wear that doesnt come from hurting an animal. (Shaving sheep I dont mind, they dont kill or even hurt them)

[issaa.]

Its stupid. Im for the boycott, there is plenty to wear that doesnt come from hurting an animal. (Shaving sheep I dont mind, they dont kill or even hurt them)
Its good when they shear sheep if they didnt they would get too hot in summer.

[RedStratocas]

Its good when they shear sheep if they didnt they would get too hot in summer.

Depends on the location, but true. Sheep dont mind either, when shaving them they stay put, so thats probably one of the major reasons you never hear of sheep abusers.

[Sazzle]

Pretty much but we need meat to survive. They are living but then there are people who kill each other for fun, not for food...
Fair enough, I'm no vegetarian, and I'm probably still gonna eat meat after watching them videos, but the way they do it is just nasty and there is no need for it. They shouldn't put them through that torture.
Oh, and killing animals for fur I'm totally against.

[ilovejordan]

Fair enough, I'm no vegetarian, and I'm probably still gonna eat meat after watching them videos, but the way they do it is just nasty and there is no need for it. They shouldn't put them through that torture.
Oh, and killing animals for fur I'm totally against.


Im goin veggie as from today

[Sazzle]

Im goin veggie as from today
Yay, good luck <3 I've tried before, but I can't do it lol.

[Tash.]

I turned veggie last year cos of this stuff.. its absolutely disgusting. People who wear the fur/do the killing should be skinned too.

[ilovejordan]

Lol its gna be hard i love chicken but ugh those videos made me cry

[FrozenWhisper]

I only have fake fur, what ever you call it, I don't wear it much anyway, I couldn't be a veggie, I <3 chicken to much :(

[ilovejordan]

I only have fake fur, what ever you call it, I don't wear it much anyway, I couldn't be a veggie, I <3 chicken to much :(

on the mc cartneys they were sayin some real furs sold off as fake fur..

[FrozenWhisper]

on the mc cartneys they were sayin some real furs sold off as fake fur..
You can tell if fur's fake or not, mine defanitly is

[ilovejordan]

You can tell if fur's fake or not, mine defanitly is

you can only tell under a microscope

[FrozenWhisper]

you can only tell under a microscope
The fur on ym fake furred coat is itchy and plastic like, ;)

[ilovejordan]

The fur on ym fake furred coat is itchy and plastic like, ;)
Lmao i still wouldn't trust it :(

[FrozenWhisper]

Lmao i still wouldn't trust it :(
Too small for me now anyway lol thats un1337n355 :P

[ilovejordan]

oh well. Where did u buy it from?

[FrozenWhisper]

oh well. Where did u buy it from?
ASDA lol

[ilovejordan]

rofl yea asda can be trusted its a big shop but i mean like markets etc

[FrozenWhisper]

rofl yea asda can be trusted its a big shop but i mean like markets etc
Not like the clothes at markets, they itch :P

[ilovejordan]

I;ve never worn anythin from the market :]

[Mit]

I like faux fur, feels soo nice :)

[Biseinen]

Real fur - Against
Faux fur - All for.

[ilovejordan]

Sometimes real fur is sold and faux fur thats the problem

[Biseinen]

Real fur is being sold all the time and it's always gonna happen because famous people will want it and because of their uphold on life they can have it, it's frowned upon but some are not entirely illegal.

Me, I could never wear any real fur.

[ilovejordan]

Yea but people wear it unintentionally [sp?] because the think its fake when it isn't. And chinas the biggest problem and canada with the fur trade

[Biseinen]

Well, like I said, it's always gonna happen.

And I don't see how people can wear real fur un-intentionally, it's like 10 x the price of faux fur. = /

[ilovejordan]

Not really if you buy say a jacket off the market that has "fake fur" trimmed it could be real fur ..

[Biseinen]

Oh the drama. =P

[ilovejordan]

:l your not funny

[Biseinen]

:l your not funny

I wasn't saying it at the situation, I was saying it at the situation of it all and the fact that you can't win. (Not you, people in general)

[RedStratocas]

I wasn't saying it at the situation, I was saying it at the situation of it all and the fact that you can't win. (Not you, people in general)

You would actually be suprised what people can do. We cant say obviously "That's wrong" and the whole world will stop. But most of the styles and ideas come from the U.S.. Already in there are tons of ads against fur, and tons of boycotts on fur clothing. Even some celebrities are getting in on it. Eventually it will become frowned upon across the country to wear fur. People in other countries will catch on.

No, not everyone will stop, but enough will to put people who sell fur clothing out of buisness.

[Craig]

All animal cruelty súcks and the people who harm them can go to hell.

[FrozenWhisper]

All animal cruelty súcks and the people who harm them can go to hell.
Yep, I only think killing animals for food is ok because we need food, we don't need fur clothes, fake fur is fine, ral fur is horrible.

[Jordan3]

I don't even like fake fur. My sister has a fake fur coat which is purple and she looks like a freaking yeti.

[FrozenWhisper]

I don't even like fake fur. My sister has a fake fur coat which is purple and she looks like a freaking yeti.
My coat has a tiny amount of FAKE fur on, I look nothing like a yeti lol

[Craig]

Yep, I only think killing animals for food is ok because we need food, we don't need fur clothes, fake fur is fine, ral fur is horrible.

We don't need animals for food we can survive without them.

[Mentor]

Theres this thing alot of people call nature. It includes a thing know as a food chain.
What happens in this is Bigger animal uses smaller animal to survive.
Fur clothing is needed to survive for some? humans are bigger animal. Humans use other animals to survive. Nature.

Same way humas use animals for food. to survive.

Also for anyone who quotes peta, they probaly murdered more animals in the last year than the fur trade itself, they just make money by brainwashing idiotcs with properganda and fake footage.
A large amount of peta emplyes are actaly inpresoned on animal curlty charges...

Take a look

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm

(admitedly its probaly about as unbyass as peta itself, but theres tones of links to news storys on many a respectable news sorce, from cnn to the bbc :) )


Fur food, we bigger we use for are surval. All animals do it, we are included, without it we become exstinct. I enjoy liveing, a valude my life over that of a rat, or any other non centaint animal for exsample hence i will use it to surive if needs be.

Chances are the fur trade and eating them is Far Far more humain, than what would happen to them in the wild. That even includes the videos of peta tortoring animals wile dressed up as scinetists *cough* or reaserches. In the wild other animals have no consept of mercy (well disgrarding a few ape subspecises). and haveing no consept of mercy coenisdes with the other animal haveing no conspets of anything ether, therefor even pain is meaningless along with its life "/ it doesnt cair if its dead, it never knew it was alive itself. Only humans are selfaware.


We don't need animals for food we can survive without them.
The prasing of thats probly the problem, but no we cant, we are pretty reliant on them, plus the no eating animals thing is falce anyway, apart from being grossly unheathy and have poor meat substitues, by technial deffintion of an animal, your murdering a few millions everytime your breathjing in...

[Colourful™]

But humans dont need fur to live, they use it as an accessory...how can you say that? :@

[Mentor]

But humans dont need fur to live, they use it as an accessory...how can you say that? :@
You may not, but that doesnt include all humans, the entire escimo populations are pretty reliant on it, They tend to not like freezing to death you see. And i cant realy blame them on that one :rolleyes:

[ilovejordan]

You may not, but that doesnt include all humans, the entire escimo populations are pretty reliant on it, They tend to not like freezing to death you see. And i cant realy blame them on that one :rolleyes:

But they don't use it as a fashion acsessory [sp?]

[Biseinen]

But they don't use it as a fashion acsessory [sp?]

That's because it's a necessity for them to survive.

[Mentor]

But they don't use it as a fashion acsessory [sp?]
No, they use it to live, Hence negating iAlex! clame humans dont need fur to live.

[ilovejordan]

ohh. okay noone but eskimos need fur to live :]

[Biseinen]

Lol, if we all didn't have heating, warmth and a good climate where we survived in. We all would need it.

[Mentor]

ohh. okay noone but eskimos need fur to live :]
Actaly, most of the 3rd would also relie on it.... not just eskimos, they just make a good exsmaple since there climeit is more likened to the steriotypical idea of why it would be requred "/

[emo...]

its just horrid! it made me sick. i cried and cried and cried, and being a vegetarian, i just cried and cried more! :@ :(

[Phorum]

I think every one agrees but me sort of.

[crash]

its terrible. </3

[cocaine]

id hate to wear fur