PETA IS LABELLED WRONG. **WARNING: CONTIANS GRAPHIC IMAGES**

[Emicat.]

I was browsing around on the forum when I came across a website called www.petakillsanimals.com or something and I came arcross this shocking picture;

http://media-carnell.macrobyte.net/animalrights/images/01_06_2004_your_mommy_kills.jpg

PETA is corrputing children AND killing animals!

Just thought I'd let y'all know that >;(

[velvet]

Peta, People for the Ethnical Treatment of Animals, I can assure you do not kill animals ruthlessly. :l Some animals are ill, or cannot be rehomed, I know it's horrible, but it's done in a humane way, unlike how it woukld be done in the fur industry (Skinned alive), or the meat industry.
About the comic, It's not corrupting childrens minds, it's the truth, if you wear fur or eat meat, the fact is your paying for the slaughter of innocent animals.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Yeah. What he said. They are just trying to get there point across

[Jordan3]

Peta, People for the Ethnical Treatment of Animals, I can assure you do not kill animals ruthlessly. :l Some animals are ill, or cannot be rehomed, I know it's horrible, but it's done in a humane way, unlike how it woukld be done in the fur industry (Skinned alive), or the meat industry.
About the comic, It's not corrupting childrens minds, it's the truth, if you wear fur or eat meat, the fact is your paying for the slaughter of innocent animals.

I agree with what he said.

[velvet]

I'm a she. -Cough* (:

[Mentor]

by any chance was the browsing over some of the many links i posted...

Yes, all these animals were obviosly for that reason http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm

So are 90% of EVERY animal they adopt, and of cause they use humain methods that leave half the staff in prison on animal rights abuses, and make profit to fund a few terrorist groups. Yes what great people PETA are...

Look at the puppy they rehomed
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/images/article_petatrial2.jpg

[ilovejordan]

Peta, People for the Ethnical Treatment of Animals, I can assure you do not kill animals ruthlessly. :l Some animals are ill, or cannot be rehomed, I know it's horrible, but it's done in a humane way, unlike how it woukld be done in the fur industry (Skinned alive), or the meat industry.
About the comic, It's not corrupting childrens minds, it's the truth, if you wear fur or eat meat, the fact is your paying for the slaughter of innocent animals.

what she said <3

[Chaz]

Bunnies =)

[Mentor]

PETA is not an animal welfare organization.
PETA spends less than one percent of its multi-million dollar budget actually helping animals. The group euthanized (killed) more than 1,900 animals in 2003 alone -- that's over 85 percent of the animals it received. In fact, from July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five animals every day. On its 2002 federal income-tax return, PETA claimed a $9,370 expense for a giant walk-in freezer, the kind most people use as a meat locker or for ice-cream storage. But animal-rights activists don't eat meat or dairy foods. So far, the group hasn't confirmed the obvious -- that it's using the appliance to store the bodies of its victims.

A sum up of what peta does for animals :D

[Emicat.]

Peta, People for the Ethnical Treatment of Animals, I can assure you do not kill animals ruthlessly. :l Some animals are ill, or cannot be rehomed, I know it's horrible, but it's done in a humane way, unlike how it woukld be done in the fur industry (Skinned alive), or the meat industry.
About the comic, It's not corrupting childrens minds, it's the truth, if you wear fur or eat meat, the fact is your paying for the slaughter of innocent animals.

I didn't think I explainned enough.

This is aimed at 4-7 years olds and in America they wait outside schools and smother them with infomation when the children leave school for the day.

And alot of the animals that have been killed they just get dumped in the streets.

And possibly they are just being lazy about cruing the animals - maybe they can cure some of them.

[velvet]

A sum up of what peta does for animals :D

I get what you mean, but personally, i'd rather be Euthanized, than skinned alive, having my throat cut, ect.
Peta may do some bad things, but think about all the people it makes aware, every vegaterian saves approximately 92 animals a year from slaughter. If you think about all the people peta has provided information for about vegaterianism and not wearing wool/fur, then maybe the company doesn't save that many animals, but overall, the people who peta have turned vegaterian/vegan, save more animals. so really, peta is doing some good. But I don't agree with the fact that they Euthanize all those animals.

[Mentor]

I get what you mean, but personally, i'd rather be Euthanized, than skinned alive, having my throat cut, ect.
Peta may do some bad things, but think about all the poeple it makes aware, every vegaterian saves approximately 92 animals a year from slaughter. If you think about all the poeple peta has provided information for about vegaterianism and not wearing wool/fur, then maybe the company doesn't save that many animals, but overall, the people who peta have turned vegaterian/vegan, save more animals. so really, peta is doing some good. But I don't agree with the fact that they Euthanize all those animals.

Yea, but when you take in to account the videos your watching were are stadges vidioes made by peta, not envoling real places, and actaly happening under petas OWN supervison... Then they hold less weight.

Peta spend 1% of its buget helping animals.
Kills 90%
Most the buget goes right of to terroists so they can fire bomb and murder a few other scientists trying to cure cancer...

Its all about profit, they brain wash children, take there money, get out of paying tax's...

ps. 92 animals? http://www.petakillsanimals.com/images/chart_deathToll.gif
Well peta seems to be trying to pick up the slack.

I dont agree even with real and honest animal rights activits in princable, Peta thogh i hate as they only pretend to be animal rights, and insted murder them in the 1000's

[ilovejordan]

Sorry but i would like proof of what your saying mentor

[velvet]

Yea, but when you take in to account the videos your watching were are stadges vidioes made by peta, not envoling real places, and actaly happening under petas OWN supervison... Then they hold less weight.

Peta spend 1% of its buget helping animals.
Kills 90%
Most the buget goes right of to terroists so they can fire bomb and murder a few other scientists trying to cure cancer...

Its all about profit, they brain wash children, take there money, get out of paying tax's...

If that is true, I suppose, but do you have any evidence they are staged?
And even if they are, it still has an impact on people watching.

[Mentor]

Sorry but i would like proof of what your saying mentor
if you followed the links youd find it..

A few links to news sites maybe?
http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/wvec_local_062405_peta_warrants_pics.4008bc72.html
http://www.vancnews.com/articles/2005/07/13/warrenton/news/news07.txt
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm?id=148
http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/articles/2005/06/30/news/news2.txt
http://www.wnct.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WNCT/MGArticle/NCT_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031783337916&path
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/article_detail.cfm/article/156
http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/21
http://www.animalscam.com/

[velvet]

if you followed the links youd find it..

A few links to news sites maybe?
http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/wvec_local_062405_peta_warrants_pics.4008bc72.html
http://www.vancnews.com/articles/2005/07/13/warrenton/news/news07.txt
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm?id=148
http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/articles/2005/06/30/news/news2.txt
http://www.wnct.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WNCT/MGArticle/NCT_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031783337916&path
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/article_detail.cfm/article/156
http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/21
http://www.animalscam.com/

But where's the proof their videos where staged..?

[Mentor]

But where's the proof their videos where staged..?
To find the persfic case i orignal would have used would requre trolling thew quite large new archvives of peta exsploits.

http://brianoconnor.typepad.com/animal_crackers/2005/06/peta_corrupting.html

im guesising from the title that artical most likly covers the subject

(im currnly to lazy, may have proper search later)

[Sammeth.]

I gotta say Im siding with 01101101entor on this. Look how many animals were killed compared to how many they killed compared to which were adopted in 2005, out of the amount they received. And whose to say they kill them fairly? In a humane way? Whats the proof in that?

[RedStratocas]

every vegaterian saves approximately 92 animals a year from slaughter.

Lets break out the ol' calculator: 92/365 = .252. If you suggest that I eat 25% of an animal every day, Ive got some suprising news... I dont. Most people dont, considering 25% is a pretty big amount.

Also, by not eating something, that doesnt mean you saved it. Meat companies dont say "This guy doesnt eat meat, we shouldnt kill this cow". Supply and demand isnt effected by one person, there is no way to measure how many animals are 'saved' by vegitarians.

[Jordan3]

Also, by not eating something, that doesnt mean you saved it. Meat companies dont say "This guy doesnt eat meat, we shouldnt kill this cow". Supply and demand isnt effected by one person, there is no way to measure how many animals are 'saved' by vegitarians.

Yeah he's right. Vegetarians don't save animals from being killed, they just stop animals being bought from shops then eaten. So the thing that misses out is supermarkets, not aninal deaths.

[Revis]

Wow, encouraging to oppose your parent's views for someone elses. Doesn't that just remind you of 1930's Germany?

[Adam$]

Haha @ Lee.

[Mentor]

Lets break out the ol' calculator: 92/365 = .252. If you suggest that I eat 25% of an animal every day, Ive got some suprising news... I dont. Most people dont, considering 25% is a pretty big amount.

Also, by not eating something, that doesnt mean you saved it. Meat companies dont say "This guy doesnt eat meat, we shouldnt kill this cow". Supply and demand isnt effected by one person, there is no way to measure how many animals are 'saved' by vegitarians.
techincaly the stats probaly correct, althogh its being used in a way to trick people, something peta do commonly.

There more giveing you the statictic on how many diffent animals your meat will come from, rather than how many whole animal you will eat yourself, 92 maybe? buy about 30 people will probaly eat other parts as well "/

[FlyingJesus]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

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Two pages from the same brilliant site. Excuse the extremity of some of the things said, but the main point is clear. Animals will be killed even if we all turn completely vegan, because of techniques used in non-livestock farming. Not even using that meat to feed people is pure idiocy. And ask yourselves, why do you really care? With the exception of dolphins perhaps, pretty much all animals are well below us humans by way of brainpower, and let's face it, we're simply the better species and have a right to eat what we like. We're primarily predators for Christ's sake, would you go against nature in such a pointless way? The "pain" that animals feel is just an instinct reaction to a sudden change in their surroundings (ie: a spike through the neck), whereas we feel it through instinct and actually understand what it is we feel. You care because you've been taught to. Killing something that's been bred for eating, that's fair enough. It's for the good of the human race, and more importantly, me. Killing domestic animals that someone is or at one time was attached to, that's what's wrong. And blow me, who is it who does the most of that? Why, it's those crazed chaps down at PETA.

[Mentor]

Im not agaist killing any animal as long as its for a purpos, To Eat, for fur, or even just get rid of a pest.
As long as its not done out of malis, and actaly has a point rather than simply being an act of vilence i have no problem with it.
Dog is just as valid a food as cow, just becuse people are usaly more attched to dogs, doesnt change the status in anyway for me "/

[emo...]

Peta, People for the Ethnical Treatment of Animals, I can assure you do not kill animals ruthlessly. :l Some animals are ill, or cannot be rehomed, I know it's horrible, but it's done in a humane way, unlike how it woukld be done in the fur industry (Skinned alive), or the meat industry.
About the comic, It's not corrupting childrens minds, it's the truth, if you wear fur or eat meat, the fact is your paying for the slaughter of innocent animals.

um, im glad i dont eat meat! lol, but i agree

[Mentor]

um, im glad i dont eat meat! lol, but i agree
Far more animals die in the production of vergiteran food than would do in the food sold at a butchers.
Alot of vegitrans fail to understand what exsactly happens to the mice and bunnys in feilds when the combine havister comes ploweing over them :)

[FlyingJesus]

No animals should be killed for meat? Ok I have an idea. Wipe out every single species on the planet that is a predator, decomposer or scavenger, then I'll consider turning vegetarian. Why should I not eat meat when other animals do it all the time? Go tell a lion not to hunt. Go tell a snake not to bite. Hell, let's not stop at food, why not ask giraffes not to walk? Humans are naturally predators, we kill and we eat. Why argue with nature?

[Sammeth.]

No animals should be killed for meat? Ok I have an idea. Wipe out every single species on the planet that is a predator, decomposer or scavenger, then I'll consider turning vegetarian. Why should I not eat meat when other animals do it all the time? Go tell a lion not to hunt. Go tell a snake not to bite. Hell, let's not stop at food, why not ask giraffes not to walk? Humans are naturally predators, we kill and we eat. Why argue with nature?

That pretty much sums up everything. You cant really have a strong counter argument for THAT. Tis all true, and fact.

[FlyingJesus]

I thought that answer up whilst on the toilet earlier ;)

[Infrontation]

I was browsing around on the forum when I came across a website called www.petakillsanimals.com or something and I came arcross this shocking picture;

http://media-carnell.macrobyte.net/animalrights/images/01_06_2004_your_mommy_kills.jpg

PETA is corrputing children AND killing animals!

Just thought I'd let y'all know that >;(
No offence but sometimes you act quite immature. If you had of read it properly like everyone else is saying and checked out the website. They are getting the point across that buy having fur coats from animal fur they are basically paying for the animals too be killed. Particularly interesting with the news about furs not being labelled properly and some 'fake fur' is actually real fur as it is actually cheaper too use.

[Mentor]

No offence but sometimes you act quite immature. If you had of read it properly like everyone else is saying and checked out the website. They are getting the point across that buy having fur coats from animal fur they are basically paying for the animals too be killed. Particularly interesting with the news about furs not being labelled properly and some 'fake fur' is actually real fur as it is actually cheaper too use.
YEA, rather than kill an animal and get a nice coat out of it! We should give it to PETA so they can kill it and keep the moeny the get tax exsempt!

Peta spend less than 1% of the buget on animals.
and KILL 90% of animals they take in.
propotanty More of there staff are in jail for animal rights abuses than all hunting, slaiugter houses and other related companys put together.

Such nice people :)

I value humans above animals. Also If the mother was planning on makeing it in to a cote why the hell would see rip the fur and get it all stained in blood, It would ruin the ****ing thing? misinformtaion even in there misinofrmation "/

[Lukeh]

Well its shock treatment, if it works then great.


PETA's ways of killing animals will be much more human than the way people treat them, as seen on their site, peta2.com

[Jim Rotates]

PETA are idiots who just look for attention. Sure, animal cruelty happens but protesting and storming fashion events doesn't stop it. They should stop complaining and start acting.

[FlyingJesus]

PETA's ways of killing animals will be much more human than the way people treat them, as seen on their site, peta2.com

I guess you meant humane, not human. I also guess you think that homocide is fine at long as the victim doesn't have to endure as much pain as another murderer's victim? Someone please answer me this:

When you really think about it, why do you care so much about animals?

[Infrontation]

I guess you meant humane, not human. I also guess you think that homocide is fine at long as the victim doesn't have to endure as much pain as another murderer's victim? Someone please answer me this:

When you really think about it, why do you care so much about animals?
Animals are living things on earth just like us. Man evolved from an ape basically. How would you like it if man never evolved that much and dogs did and now dogs where the 'leaders' of the world and we roamed free and got killed in painful ways o.O

[Mentor]

Animals are living things on earth just like us. Man evolved from an ape basically. How would you like it if man never evolved that much and dogs did and now dogs where the 'leaders' of the world and we roamed free and got killed in painful ways o.O
If that were true we woulnt have the mental capsity to compriend consepts of pain, death or anything else, so would be blissfuly unaware, exsactly like animals are when where here "/