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Ben.
12-05-2006, 08:10 PM
Shay signs a new contract for newcastle taking him till 2011 as a newcastle keeper :D

i rekon hes the best keeper in premiership :)

paradox
12-05-2006, 08:11 PM
lmao hes far from Best keeper in Prem.

Ben.
12-05-2006, 08:12 PM
lmao hes far from Best keeper in Prem.

:o who you think is then?

SHEEPY
12-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Cech is better, but i'd say he's defiantly the second best keeper in the Prem.

Ben.
12-05-2006, 08:15 PM
Cech is better, but i'd say he's defiantly the second best keeper in the Prem.

Nah i think given is much better

paradox
12-05-2006, 08:19 PM
Cech, Van Der Sar IMO.
But yes I'd say 3rd best :)

Jordan3
12-05-2006, 08:19 PM
Cech is the best in the Premiership, maybe even the best in the world.

Ben.
12-05-2006, 08:20 PM
Cech, Van Der Sar IMO.
But yes I'd say 3rd best :)

VAN DER SAR!! :o:o:o Ive had better craps

SHEEPY
12-05-2006, 08:21 PM
World:

Buffon > Casillas > Cech

Prem:

Cech > Given > Van der Sar > Jussi

paradox
12-05-2006, 08:23 PM
I rate Victor Valdes too.

Jordan3
12-05-2006, 08:23 PM
VDS ain't what he used to be.

SHEEPY
12-05-2006, 08:24 PM
Valdes is awful.

paradox
12-05-2006, 08:24 PM
Hes getting worser as he ages but hes a good shot stopper at times.

Ben.
12-05-2006, 08:24 PM
What bout Robbo?

paradox
12-05-2006, 08:25 PM
I thought Valdes was quite good but I can't really say I can judge him well because I don't watch that much Spanish football but from the games I've seen him play he done quite well.

SHEEPY
12-05-2006, 08:33 PM
I thought Valdes was quite good but I can't really say I can judge him well because I don't watch that much Spanish football but from the games I've seen him play he done quite well.

He's alright, nothing more. Prone to the most awful mistakes you'll ever see. And on Robbo, yeah I rate him always have. He has improved immensely sine he has been at Spurs.

Worthy England no.1, not quite world-class yes though.

paradox
12-05-2006, 08:36 PM
James has just seemed to get worse and worse.

Ben.
12-05-2006, 08:37 PM
James has just seemed to get worse and worse.

I agree he was bad now hes absolutly rubbish

Jordan3
12-05-2006, 08:38 PM
I've always liked Valdes and Robinson. I've also always thought that Kahn is one of the world's best.

SHEEPY
12-05-2006, 08:38 PM
James is a brilliant shot stopper, he'd be awesome if he could claim crosses and didn't **** about so much.

Edited by Eckuii (Super Moderator) - Please do not avoid the word filter.

DMB-Hosting
12-05-2006, 09:29 PM
;o your forgetting pepe reina he's quality

bingoking
12-05-2006, 09:45 PM
VAN DER SAR!! :o:o:o Ive had better craps

So how come Given has only 13 cleansheets this season and conceded 42 this season while Van Der Sar has 18 cleansheets and conceded 33 this season, I think Van Der Sar, Cech, Reina, Robinson are the best 4, Given is 5th, Lehmann 6th!

Jim Rotates
12-05-2006, 11:56 PM
Given is blatantly Ireland's best player right now.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 02:40 AM
So how come Given has only 13 cleansheets this season and conceded 42 this season while Van Der Sar has 18 cleansheets and conceded 33 this season, I think Van Der Sar, Cech, Reina, Robinson are the best 4, Given is 5th, Lehmann 6th!

Reina and Robinson are definitely not in the top 5... England doesn't even have a good goalkeeper for their country.

By the way, the world's best goalkeepers are:
1. Cech
2. Dida
3. Buffon

Colourful™
13-05-2006, 06:58 AM
He's good but far from the best goalkeeper in the Premiership. Van Der Sar, Jens Lehmann, Paul Robinson, Petr Cech, Carlo Cudicini, Jose Reina and a few more are all better than him.

England have a great keeper for the world cup copared to a lot of other countries.

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 07:20 AM
Dida is awful & so is cech.

Ben.
13-05-2006, 09:29 AM
So how come Given has only 13 cleansheets this season and conceded 42 this season while Van Der Sar has 18 cleansheets and conceded 33 this season, I think Van Der Sar, Cech, Reina, Robinson are the best 4, Given is 5th, Lehmann 6th!

Because man u have a better defence..... than newcastle..

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 09:45 AM
He's good but far from the best goalkeeper in the Premiership. Van Der Sar, Jens Lehmann, Paul Robinson, Petr Cech, Carlo Cudicini, Jose Reina and a few more are all better than him.

England have a great keeper for the world cup copared to a lot of other countries.

Like which?
Italy has Buffon
Germany has Lehmann
Brazil has Dida
Czech Republic have Cech
Holland has Van der Sar
Poland has Dudek (though I think he's rubbish)
France has Coupet/Barthez

Lyca
13-05-2006, 09:48 AM
Evry one knows Cech is the best , then maybe Lahmen but shay is up there with the top guns

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 09:50 AM
Cech is awful.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 09:51 AM
Cech is not really the best actually since thinking again, Chelsea just have a good defence. You can't just look at the single game performance to determine how good they are.

Billabong
13-05-2006, 09:51 AM
I agree

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 09:53 AM
Lehmann is a great keeper. He has a afwul defence infront of him and has pulled off world class saves this season. (this is coming from a utd fan)

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 09:54 AM
I still think that Oliver Kahn is better than Jens Lehmann though. Bayern have bad defenders. Arsenal has Sol Campbell, Kolo Toure, Lauren and Ashley Cole though they get constantly injured this season. I'm a supporter of both Bayern and Arsenal.

Ben.
13-05-2006, 09:58 AM
I think Lehmann is a ok keeper and VERY lucky kahn is far better than him

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 09:58 AM
*** Kahn is a donkey.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 09:59 AM
VERY lucky Kahn is far better but an unlucky Kahn is still better than him.

Kahn is not a donkey. People call him an ape, but he's a good goalkeeping ape.

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:04 AM
Dida is crap.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:05 AM
Dida's not crap. He was voted as second best goalkeeper in the world (Not Brazil or Milan fan)

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:06 AM
Dida is crap.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:07 AM
Dida's way better than ANY English goalkeeper.

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:08 AM
No he's a muppet.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:09 AM
A muppet who's better than ANY English goalkeeper. Wow, look what you're saying about the English...

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:10 AM
Are you english? If you're your a disgrace.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:12 AM
I'm not English and neither am I patriotic so I don't care what I say about my country. England is a nice country but their football team doesn't have proper strikers or goalkeepers.

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:12 AM
Dida's not crap. He was voted as second best goalkeeper in the world (Not Brazil or Milan fan)

Voted by who?

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:13 AM
I'm not English and neither am I patriotic so I don't care what I say about my country. England is a nice country but their football team doesn't have proper strikers or goalkeepers. Rooney, Defoe, Bent, Crouch & Owen not proper strikers?! ROFFLLL

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:14 AM
It was a while ago but I think it was FIFA.


Rooney, Defoe, Bent, Crouch & Owen not proper strikers?! ROFFLLL

Rooney's okay but I don't like him at all. Defoe, Bent and Crouch are not good at all. Owen is inconsistent. Are you English?

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:14 AM
Your team is?

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:14 AM
It was a while ago but I think it was FIFA.

Well when have Brazil ever cared about defence? They normally have a keeper and 2 centre backs, but they always use R.Carlos and Cafu as almost midfielders, which is why they score so many, but let so many in.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:15 AM
Your team is?

What do you mean? The team I support?


Well when have Brazil ever cared about defence? They normally have a keeper and 2 centre backs, but they always use R.Carlos and Cafu as almost midfielders, which is why they score so many, but let so many in.

Just cause they don't care about defence, doesn't mean they don't have a good keeper.

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:16 AM
What do you mean? The team I support?

You support AS Roma right?

Railed
13-05-2006, 10:17 AM
Shay Given is a great goalie. I actually agree he is probably the goalie in the premiership. The amount of times he has kept newcastle in the games is unbelievable. Petr Chech has never really needed to make a save becuase of his defense.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:17 AM
Yes and I don't care if you say they're crap and all that. You can't change my mind.


Shay Given is a great goalie. I actually agree he is probably the goalie in the premiership. The amount of times he has kept newcastle in the games is unbelievable. Petr Chech has never really needed to make a save becuase of his defense.

Like I said, you can't look at single game performances.

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:18 AM
I'm not saying they're crap, but you said Middlesborough were crap, and look what happened :]

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:18 AM
Roma are shocking.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:19 AM
They got thrashed by Sevilla.


Roma are shocking.

Shockingly good. They got voted as best team in the WORLD in February 2006 because of their record of 11 consecutive undefeated games in the league. Francesco Totti got injured for 8 weeks in their 8th game or something.

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 10:20 AM
Roma's fans are disgraceful.

Railed
13-05-2006, 10:20 AM
Yes and I don't care if you say they're crap and all that. You can't change my mind.



Like I said, you can't look at single game performances. Could you please tell me where i said about Single game performances.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:21 AM
Could you please tell me where i said about Single game performances.


Shay Given is a great goalie. I actually agree he is probably the goalie in the premiership. The amount of times he has kept newcastle in the games is unbelievable. Petr Chech has never really needed to make a save becuase of his defense.

Not really single game but a few games

Ben.
13-05-2006, 10:23 AM
Not really single game but a few games

Most games more like...

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:24 AM
You're a Newcastle fan so you'd obviously say that. And if it was most games, Newcastle would be at least 6th in the EPL

Railed
13-05-2006, 10:24 AM
Not really single game but a few games Im sorry but i have to disagree about that. Shay Given has kept Newcastle in the game so many times if they didnt have him Newcastle would be in HUGE trouble. Ever since Shay Given was in the premiership with Newcastle which i think is 1998 present he has been there hero over and over again.

Ben.
13-05-2006, 10:26 AM
Im sorry but i have to disagree about that. Shay Given has kept Newcastle in the game so many times if they didnt have him Newcastle would be in HUGE trouble. Ever since Shay Given was in the premiership with Newcastle which i think is 1998 present he has been there hero over and over again.

1997 and i agree he has kept them in many games

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:26 AM
They haven't gotten the Premiership title since he joined. Newcastle was never really in the race were they?

DMB-Hosting
13-05-2006, 10:27 AM
PEPE Reina is brilliant

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:27 AM
Roma's fans behavior is disgusting.

Ben.
13-05-2006, 10:27 AM
They haven't gotten the Premiership title since he joined. Newcastle was never really in the race were they?

Yes that is because theyve never spent HUGE ammounts of money on players like chelsea or man u for rooney

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:28 AM
Reina isn't that good actually. He just got lucky in those games where he got cleansheets. We're talking about Shay Given and Roma, not their fans...

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 10:29 AM
Iamme, at the UEFA cup thing, I seem to remember you saying 'Boro were crap and that Roma were gonna beat them?

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:30 AM
Not if Roma didn't have Francesco Totti...

Railed
13-05-2006, 10:30 AM
They haven't gotten the Premiership title since he joined. Newcastle was never really in the race were they? I Do remember one season when they was at the top with the big guns. ( Man U Arsenal at the time ). At that time thats where i began to notice how great shay given was. Without shay given at that time they would of finished about 7th, 8th. And if you wondering who i support, I support Birmingham City ;D. You can rub the relegation in my face if you want ;D

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 10:32 AM
I'm not the type of person who likes to say that.

bingoking
13-05-2006, 11:34 AM
I think Fabien Bartez is well crap!

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 12:14 PM
I agree

Jordan3
13-05-2006, 12:16 PM
Barthez is like a French David James.

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 12:20 PM
I admit that Shay Given is better than Barthez but he's not the best in EPL

bingoking
13-05-2006, 01:03 PM
in my opinion the best keepers in England are:

1) Cech (chelsea)
2) Van Der Sar (man u)
3) Reina (liverpool)
4) Robinson (spurs)
5) Given (newcastle)
6) Lehamnn (arsenal)
7) Jaaskelainen (bolton)
8) Freidel (blackburn)
9) Niemi (fulham)
10) Sorensen (aston villa)

... i think the worst in England are:
1) Howard (man U)
2) James (man c)
3) Carroll (west ham)

Eckuii
13-05-2006, 01:28 PM
I thought this thread was about the goalkeepers in the Premiership not the other Footballing leagues around the world.

On the matter of Shay Given, I think hes a great keeper, under the circumstances with Newcastles rubbish defence, hes exellent.

Peter Cech, hes made mistakes during the back end of this season. Hes an excellent goalkeeper, the worlds best, but what do you expect with the worlds best players infront of him, and the one of the worlds richest men as Chairman?

Paul Robsinon, hes the best for England, no doubt. Some saves he has pulled off this season have been world class. He will do brilliant in the world Cup, he controls his defence and keeps them in control at Tottenham, im sure he can continue this in the World Cup as Englands number 1.

David James, hes the Second choice Goalkeeper for England, personally, I wouldnt have him. He pannics too much when there is a corner or a cross. He doesnt come out and collect the ball, he lets his defence do the hard work. He doesnt order his defence on what to do. I personally dont like him, and I think if he gets a game in the world cup, he will mess it up for England.

Pu$$y
13-05-2006, 01:30 PM
David James, hes the Second choice Goalkeeper for England, personally, I wouldnt have him. He pannics too much when there is a corner or a cross. He doesnt come out and collect the ball, he lets his defence do the hard work. He doesnt order his defence on what to do. I personally dont like him, and I think if he gets a game in the world cup, he will mess it up for England.
Is that some kind of sick joke?

DieselShaq
13-05-2006, 01:40 PM
David James is crap. We never actually said it was only EPL. The subject of the thread is "Shay Given"

Eckuii
13-05-2006, 01:50 PM
Is that some kind of sick joke?

No,
he worries too much. He makes mistakes, he gets headlines: Calamaty James.

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