Slitting Wrists

[Lozzoling]

I mean how the hell do you slit wrists? Kitchen knifes? School scissors?

I've just been thinking about it alot recently.

[-Paul]

I mean how the hell do you slit wrists? Kitchen knifes? School scissors?

I've just been thinking about it alot recently.

BEFORE I POST, I HAVE NEVER DONE IT AND NEVER WILL.

I see people in my school cutting themselfs with pencil sharpner blades.

I dont have anything against anyone who does it.. But i don't know why anyone would want to do it.. if anyone could explain that ;p?

[Nightrose]

There are many reason why people cut themself and different people use different things
Reasons for cutting:
Stress
depression
Cry for help
Being bullied
or cause u want to be labelled emo

Thinsg people use:
Pencil shaper blades <safeter than sissors
sissors <<< Not safe at all
craft knives <<<< so dangerous

Etc

[Steven.]

You can self harm with basically anything that is sharp.. broken glass.. like paul (Barkseh) said pencil sharpners blades knifes.. scissors.. there are loads.

Also most people i know who has done it (One being myself) have not slit there actually wrists, but someone who may be very sucidle (sp?!) do so as if you cut at the right place you can die with blood loss...

Most reasons to do it is because people get bullied, stress, exam stress etc..

[--ss--]

i have no idea :s

they probally use craft knifes from the technology block i gusse :s

[Nightrose]

Most people dont do it in school. but it is so dangerous as steven. said u get the right point of ur wrist and thats it u can die if u dont get help from the hospie

[Lozzoling]

Eek i don't mean i wanted too,i was just curious in my innocentness x)

Ugh,pencil sharpener blades.

[Nightrose]

Eek i don't mean i wanted too,i was just curious in my innocentness x)

Ugh,pencil sharpener blades.

Yes pencil shaper blades, one of my mates spent ages getting out out so the person could cut their wrists arms etc

I am saying person as i do not want to sayif it is a he/she or why they were doing it i hope this is understanding

But its not me

[Steven.]

Also you can get blood poision if you use a dirty blade which can lead onto many things.

I've been told to cure 'stress to;


Try and break some frozen ice cubes..
Write it down
Shout. < Don't work for me anyhow.
Rubber bands, put them on your wrist and ping them on the inside of your wrists. :)

[Lozzoling]

Lol rubber bands,ping,lol xD

simple pleasures

[Nightrose]

hmm steven never heard of them but they sound good

[A4AOwen]

Yes Steven. they sound good!

[Dentafrice1]

Sadly my Dad used to work in the hostpital.

He has seen people using Lawn Mower Blades. The big long 42" Blades you put under your lawnmower. They start at the top and ZIP! To Cut it.

[Art]

Thats disgusting...

[Dentafrice1]

It truely is

[Placeee]

Slitting your wrists is just lame, if you do slit your wrists *cough* attention freak *cough* I suggest you buy a gun, put it to your head and pull the trigger, think off all the attention you could get from that, Wow!!
Then again you will be dead, but you deserve to be if you slit your wrists, fnx.

Go ahead flame me, if I cared I wouldn't of posted what I said above.

[Electrified]

Slitting your wrists is just lame, if you do slit your wrists *cough* attention freak *cough* I suggest you buy a gun, put it to your head and pull the trigger, think off all the attention you could get from that, Wow!!
Then again you will be dead, but you deserve to be if you slit your wrists, fnx.

Go ahead flame me, if I cared I wouldn't of posted what I said above.

agreed +rep:)

[Steven.]

Slitting your wrists is just lame, if you do slit your wrists *cough* attention freak *cough* I suggest you buy a gun, put it to your head and pull the trigger, think off all the attention you could get from that, Wow!!
Then again you will be dead, but you deserve to be if you slit your wrists, fnx.

Go ahead flame me, if I cared I wouldn't of posted what I said above.

So what if people do 'slit there wrists for attention? Maybe because they're craving it as everyone ignores them, maybe they want to get stuff off there mind? heard of Peer pressure? Heard of stress? i take it you havn't. =\

[ilovejordan]

Slitting your wrists is just lame, if you do slit your wrists *cough* attention freak *cough* I suggest you buy a gun, put it to your head and pull the trigger, think off all the attention you could get from that, Wow!!
Then again you will be dead, but you deserve to be if you slit your wrists, fnx.

Go ahead flame me, if I cared I wouldn't of posted what I said above.

Thats horrible.. people generally self harm because their going through a traumatic part of their life where they can't handle things. Not everyone slits their wrists other people do it in less obvious places. I agree people do sometimes do it for attention but saying ever single self harmer does is out of order.

[Steven.]

Thats horrible.. people generally self harm because their going through a traumatic part of their life where they can't handle things. Not everyone slits their wrists other people do it in less obvious places. I agree people do sometimes do it for attention but saying ever single self harmer does is out of order.

Agreed. :)

[Placeee]

Sorry, but how can slitting your wrists help you in any way.

http://assets.families.com/Encyclopedias/dat_01_img0070.jpg

Yeah, It must help so much having cuts on your arms.
Wow and there was me thinking people who slit their wrists are morons.

[Honesty]

this thread makes me cringe.
it's horrible that people do that to themselves >.<

[ilovejordan]

As i said people dont always slit their wrists and do it in more hidden places. I agree there are some attention seekers and that picture above is sick it makes me wonder what sites you go on ;l But stereo typing every single self harmer as an attention seeker is out of order

[Placeee]

As i said people dont always slit their wrists and do it in more hidden places. I agree there are some attention seekers and that picture above is sick it makes me wonder what sites you go on ;l But stereo typing every single self harmer as an attention seeker is out of order

Google images, what a disgusting site.
Ok, sorry but it's my opinion, no one can change my opinion as i'm not going to change it to make self harmers feel good about themselfs.

Edit: You say the picture above is sick, but you're sticking up for people that do that to their arms.

[ilovejordan]

Google images, what a disgusting site.
Ok, sorry but it's my opinion, no one can change my opinion as i'm not going to change it to make self harmers feel good about themselfs.

Edit: You say the picture above is sick, but you're sticking up for people that do that to their arms.

i'm sticking up for the people that do it for a real reason.

[Placeee]

i'm sticking up for the people that do it for a real reason.

The ******* that think the only way to get rid of stress is to cut their wrists?
Umm, no.


A4AOwen (Forum Moderator) - Please do not avoid the filter.

[sarey]

Woo.. a very .. interesting thread.
1. I have selfharm and i dont do it for attetion
2. People who selfharm, 2/3 have a real reason
3. The other third do it for attetion to be cool/whatever
4. Cutting yourself/burning/harming yourself, makes you focus on the outside pain instead of the inside
5. Some people look at it by when they cut, their bleeding the pain out
6. Not that everyone isnt entilted to their own opinion, but i think you saying go take a gun and shoot themselfs whoever said that, has obviously never had a friend with selfharm who has a real reason to do it.

[bubble79]

Selfharming is soemthing that should be encourage dot be stoppe,d not just saying that the people who do it are sick morons. I have recently become alot happier than I used to be, and would now xconsider myself a very happy person, and I do not see, now, for a reaosn to self harm, but when I was at my unhappiest I seriously considered, and wouldn't blame anyone who does it, I would just encourage them to stop, because self ahrming doesn;t seem to be attention seeking in 80% of the people I've seen do it, in fatc they seem to be trying to hide it as much as possible. -rep to placee, for not seeing others' point of view. Poeple who do self harm want to be happuir, and believe that self harming makesthem feel better about themselves, and thye are not all attnetion seeking weridos, so think about other peoples' points of view before you say anything. Ok, maybe self haring doesn't help, but it's a way out for some people, and they should have people trying to make them feel better at themselves not labelling them attention seeking or stupid.

[Yazamiinx]

Is it because you want to slit your wrists?

[sarey]

Want? No.. some people do it for too long and get addicted to it.

[Uwe]

Pencil sharpener blade

[FlyingJesus]

That picture that Placeee posted actually shows quite well how "self harm" is done. Note how the cuts are on the tops of the arms, where you don't have a big ol' vein popping out and where it isn't going to do much harm at all. A lot of people I know have self harmed in the past in this way (tops of arms), and they were mostly little goth kids who did it not to look cool, but because they'd been told that self harm is the best way to sort out your problems whenever you feel a bit down. Attention, probably. Fashion, not in most cases. It's sad that people are opened up to these things, but that's life. I'll admit, I did it once or twice also, but I realised it didn't help at all, and learned to cope with my problems without hurting myself or anyone else.

What I think is the worst thing about self harm is that it's seen as something done by idiots who want to look cool, or for attention, which distracts peoples' care from those who really are depressed and need it. You aren't depressed just because you're not happy. People who suffer from true depression (which is a brain disorder, not a mood) are looked down upon because of the vast number of teens who claim to have it, which makes them feel even worse and means that people aren't as keen to help them. Someone said about the lawn mower blade incident, that's obviously somone who is truly depressed, a rash action from someone so desperate and unhappy that they truly want to die, and yes it is attention seeking, but these people do need the attention. Spending half an hour trying to break a blade out of a sharpener before carefully slicing neat lines into the top of your arm is not the same, and I personally think that goths and other people who take the attention away from those who need it most need a kick from a steel toe cap to the head.

[kasi]

alot of people take blades out of pencil sharpeners and use that.

[Lycan]

anything with an edge, i used to. sharpener blades, penknife .. also the point on badges is good for chicken scratchs but people say hurting themselves makes them feel better... trust me.. it really doesn't. i've been there.. done it... and got blood on the t-shirt.

just go to look beyond it ;) - anyone wants to talk just pm me.. i'm meant to be revising but what the hoo :)

[Brody]

urgh very disgusting pencil sharpner blade and scissors

[Anotherkid3]

Heres my point of view on the whole situation.

If you try to kill yourself with a blade and it didn't work, then people found out about it, wouldn't that make your life a lot more stressfull.

If you tried shooting yourself you could hit a part of your brain that would paralyze you for teh rest of your life.

If you jumped off something you could become crypled or paralyzed for teh rest of your life.

Theres no real way to kill yourself without a good chance of staying alive and damaging yourself ..hanging yourself or drowning yourself another way to damage your brain from air loss.

My suggestion to you folks is to just suck it up and live through whats happening to you. Theres always that chance things might change;)

-Anotherkid3

[majesticdragon]

ok this is a good time to admit i have done it through depression many times though i am complete opposite of a goth anyways ur finger nail works suprisingly wel but usually best way is a compass kitchen knife or fro wusses a pencil sharpning blade wen dey do dat usually for atention!

[sarey]

Um.. sharpener blades arnt even painful.. you get alotta blood, but not much pain, since ive done that 2 nights back, razor blades (with 2-4 blades) sometimes you get alot of pain, and not so much blood, but sometimes other way round, or same amount. But, if your asking how to slit your wrists, like methods, thats kinda attetion seeking since you want people to know you wanna do it.. but selfharm isnt attetion seeking if you like.
-Do it in a secret place
-Cover your cuts up
- Dont tell anyone before/after
You know.. being secretive.. but if you walk around with your sleeves up and make the cuts stand out, thats attetion seeking, or if your all like too your friends, 'Oh look at my cuts arnt they just so cool!' Thats def attetion seeking.. you dont HAVE to be diognosed with depression to be depressed, sometimes your just depressed because its 'teenage years', and all puberty all that stuff, but sometimes its true depression which carries on throughout life, until you get treated of course. So basically if you wanna have scars on your arms and cuts, and probably a low blood count heres what to use to cut:
Razors, sharpener blades, penknife, knife, scissors, pins, your finger nails like majestic said, scapel (the things they use in hospitals, goodluck finding one) and anything basically sharp, like the edge of a piece of paper, a clip.. anything sharp really.

[FlyingJesus]

selfharm isnt attetion seeking if you like.
-Do it in a secret place
-Cover your cuts up
- Dont tell anyone before/after
You know.. being secretive..

Yes it is. Regardless of the fact that you aren't showing/telling people, there's a reason that you're doing it, and maybe you don't want people to see because you're afraid of what their reactions might be, but self harm is a cry for help in all cases (even just with those who do it to show off, they need help too). Also I find it funny how you basically just called yourself an attention seeker.


you dont HAVE to be diognosed with depression to be depressed, sometimes your just depressed because its 'teenage years', and all puberty all that stuff, but sometimes its true depression which carries on throughout life, until you get treated of course.

Well no, it doesn't have to be diagnosed, but it's pretty easy to tell if you have true depression or not, because you don't need reasons to feel bad, you just do. Depression as a mood is no excuse for anything in my opinion, get on with it. If you have depression in the real form (or think you might) you should seek a doctor's advice.


So basically if you wanna have scars on your arms and cuts, and probably a low blood count heres what to use to cut:
Razors, sharpener blades, penknife, knife, scissors, pins, your finger nails like majestic said, scapel (the things they use in hospitals, goodluck finding one) and anything basically sharp, like the edge of a piece of paper, a clip.. anything sharp really.

...And here ends the "How To Self Harm" manual, by A. N. Idiot.

[The Professor]

That picture that Placeee posted actually shows quite well how "self harm" is done. Note how the cuts are on the tops of the arms, where you don't have a big ol' vein popping out and where it isn't going to do much harm at all. A lot of people I know have self harmed in the past in this way (tops of arms), and they were mostly little goth kids who did it not to look cool, but because they'd been told that self harm is the best way to sort out your problems whenever you feel a bit down. Attention, probably. Fashion, not in most cases. It's sad that people are opened up to these things, but that's life. I'll admit, I did it once or twice also, but I realised it didn't help at all, and learned to cope with my problems without hurting myself or anyone else.

What I think is the worst thing about self harm is that it's seen as something done by idiots who want to look cool, or for attention, which distracts peoples' care from those who really are depressed and need it. You aren't depressed just because you're not happy. People who suffer from true depression (which is a brain disorder, not a mood) are looked down upon because of the vast number of teens who claim to have it, which makes them feel even worse and means that people aren't as keen to help them. Someone said about the lawn mower blade incident, that's obviously somone who is truly depressed, a rash action from someone so desperate and unhappy that they truly want to die, and yes it is attention seeking, but these people do need the attention. Spending half an hour trying to break a blade out of a sharpener before carefully slicing neat lines into the top of your arm is not the same, and I personally think that goths and other people who take the attention away from those who need it most need a kick from a steel toe cap to the head.

Big healthy dollop of rep coming your way. Lovin every word of it. And darksarah dudette, i suggest you get psychiatric help. If you really love pain, give yourself cramp in your foot (by bending your toes too much). I sometimes do that when i bored in bed, very amusing until it starts to really kane, in which case you bend your toes backwards slightly and it stops. Very good way to kill time. Or you could go play a game or go out, thats a good way to kill time too. If you dont like your arms that much, get rid of them, dont try to graffiti on them with sharp objects.

Back to the quote, loving the point about true depression and attention seekers. I cant really add any more because it sums it up perfectly. And normally i would spit on you for having done it to yourself in the first place, but I understand you somewhat (i could easily have done the same thing if i didnt have more self control when my parents split up) and i admire that you have learned that its pointless, good for you. (Btw, try the cramp thing, it is rather fun. Ive found jumping into a river quickly produces the same effect, although its much harder to get rid of and when youre trying to right a boat it can be irritating :p)

[sarey]

Regardless of what you said 'flying', I DONT GIVE A FLYING HECK what you think of my selfharm, because for a fact, i can be open about it seeing as people WANT to cut themselfs, i dont go to everyone: OH LOOK AT MY ARM ITS FULL OF BLOOD WOOHOOOO LOOK AT MEEEEEEE, sorry but i dont attetion seek considering the only people that know are my family. I dont tell anyone in real life like friends.. i tell close trusting friends on the internet because they deserve the truth about me, and why im explaining this to you i dont know, i told them how to 'slit' their wrists because they asked to know, and me an idiot? well i dont go to school.. SO YEAH i agree =]
N Alex, ive already HAD psychiatric help, and im not bothering to tell you or any other of you idiots why i selfharm, i dont do it for pain, i was saying that SOME do it for pain to FOCUS ON THE OUTSIDE PAIN instead of the inside pain.
I have met attetion seekers, and what attetion seeking means darling, is:
They pull their sleeves up, cry and cry on someones shoulder, saying how BAD their life is, when really their life is as perfect as anyones, they beg for attetion and cut in public.
I actually do the OPPOSITE of all that stuff, i dont beg for attetion, i stay outta peoples ways, i dont pull my sleeves up and cry on someones shoulder moaning about my life, i hide my cuts and i hide my true feelings about this life, i DONT certainly DONT cut in public, i cut in my room, where the door is baracaded.
I dont seek attetion, if i did, id find a less dangerous way in doing so.

[The Professor]

I suggest you go and see some psychotherapists that can help you, because you obviously need it. Try openiong your mind to the fact that it isnt a requirement for living, which is probably why the other dude gave up/you didnt bother with it. Otherwise, follow your signiture:

[ι нι∂ε ιη тнє dαrkηεѕѕ,тнє oηℓγ pℓαcє wнεrε ι cαη crγ]
And stay there.

[sarey]

Seriously.. if you think your going to hurt me, try again.
oh and btw, me hiding in the darkness.. is quite fun. :)
And they didnt giveup on me.. i gaveup on them.
So yeah, dont assume.

[asher_]

emowrecks...

it's down the street, not across the road ;llllll geez

[Uwe]

I suggest you go and see some psychotherapists that can help you, because you obviously need it. Try openiong your mind to the fact that it isnt a requirement for living, which is probably why the other dude gave up/you didnt bother with it. Otherwise, follow your signiture:

And stay there.


All they do is make stuff worse, or for me anyway. All they do is 'This is wrong' and making you feel like a freak, therefore making it worse ;l

[sarey]

Well yeah.. and that tbh.

[Heinous]

Razor blades.

Disposable razors are cheap, and it's simple to pull one apart, voila; nice clean, new, like a hot knife through butter, razor.

In all honesty, I have before, quite a lot and frequently. From June - Dec last year, roughly. Every 2-3 days aswell. The only people that knew where a couple of my close friends, because they saw my upper arm.

I didn't do it for attention, I didn't even like my friends knowing, or talking about it. I did it to inflict pain on myself (duh) and so people couldn't see it too.

Which means not everyone does it for attention.

[sarey]

Not all people do it for pain... and im glad you've stopped Heinous. For the amount of period you did it for, id of thought ud be addicted to it. So good for stopping.

[Heinous]

Not all people do it for pain... and im glad you've stopped Heinous. For the amount of period you did it for, id of thought ud be addicted to it. So good for stopping.
Just like not all do it for attention.

Just some do, some don't.

I only stopped because I made a deal with a friend, (now my gf), if she gave up ****, I'd stop cutting. 6 months or so later. ^_^

[sarey]

^_^ Yeah.. I was trying to explain that.. that not EVERYONE does it for attetion, some do it to cope, some do it for pain, some do it to see blood, some do it for other reasons. *shrugs*

[FlyingJesus]

Regardless of what you said 'flying', I DONT GIVE A FLYING HECK what you think of my selfharm, because for a fact, i can be open about it seeing as people WANT to cut themselfs, i dont go to everyone: OH LOOK AT MY ARM ITS FULL OF BLOOD WOOHOOOO LOOK AT MEEEEEEE,

Errr.. what? People want to cut themselves? State the obvious again please, it makes you look really intelligent.


sorry but i dont attetion seek considering the only people that know are my family. I dont tell anyone in real life like friends.. i tell close trusting friends on the internet because they deserve the truth about me,

Yeah the only people who know are your family.. and online friends.. and anyone else with a computer that's connected to this little thing called "the internet". I don't think you got my point. It's attention seeking whatever reason you do it and however much you cover it up. You told your family/friends/everyone because you felt they needed to know, they "deserve the truth". Wannabes and people you call attention seekers tell whoever they feel like so people might feel sorry for them and listen to their woes, and people with real depression often never tell anyone, too scared to open up, but they still crave the attention. I don't think that attention seeking is a bad thing, unless it takes the spotlight off people who need it, hence my dislike for... well, you.


and why im explaining this to you i dont know, i told them how to 'slit' their wrists because they asked to know, and me an idiot? well i dont go to school.. SO YEAH i agree =]

No, someone was wondering what people use, a general query. No-one said "Hey, I need some dodgy little 12 year old goth to tell me the most efficient way to cut myself". Thanks for backing me up with the idiot thing though, very kind of you.


N Alex, ive already HAD psychiatric help, and im not bothering to tell you or any other of you idiots why i selfharm, i dont do it for pain, i was saying that SOME do it for pain to FOCUS ON THE OUTSIDE PAIN instead of the inside pain.

You stated earlier on in this thread that you do it because you used to do it for other reasons and then got addicted to the pain of it. Foo'.


I have met attetion seekers, and what attetion seeking means darling, is:
They pull their sleeves up, cry and cry on someones shoulder, saying how BAD their life is, when really their life is as perfect as anyones, they beg for attetion and cut in public.

That's attention seeking, yes, in an extroversial form. As I mentioned above, it's all still attention seeking no matter how well you hide it.


I actually do the OPPOSITE of all that stuff, i dont beg for attetion, i stay outta peoples ways, i dont pull my sleeves up and cry on someones shoulder moaning about my life, i hide my cuts and i hide my true feelings about this life, i DONT certainly DONT cut in public, i cut in my room, where the door is baracaded.
I dont seek attetion, if i did, id find a less dangerous way in doing so.

Look dearie, I know it's hard to accept that you don't know why you do things or what things mean, but trust me on this. It's nice that you're not shouting to the world that you have some .5mm thick red lines on your arm, and in doing so you aren't taking attention away from people who need it, but you need to realise that you are calling for attention, hoping perhaps (even in the back of your mind) that one day someone will see and the effect will be even greater. It's not a bad thing, everyone wants to be the centre of attention, but it's nice when you can admit it.

Alex, keep up the good fight ^_^

[asher_]

darksarah wow you u realli r an emo ;llllllllll

xxxx_CuT______xMa_WRistZ_BlaCk_Ma_EyeZ____;xxxxxx

pull yourself together you mess ;l

[Heinous]

Asher, read this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0198612583/104-4095708-0023142?v=glance&n=283155), you non-educated idiot.

[asher_]

Asher, read this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0198612583/104-4095708-0023142?v=glance&n=283155), you non-educated idiot.

;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

urm i have a very good education thx ;p:PPPP oxford!

[Heinous]

Yeah, I can totally see that you're 'educated', maybe in a special, very special, way mate.

[sarey]

yep, they WANT to cut themselfs, just like i do, i want to cut myself on those odd days where i really wish i was in death row.
Sorry, im 13, not 12. :) And im quite sure the message was how do you cut yourself, so why not give them the lecture on how to, and what to use?
I hid my selfharm for 3 years, i told no one at all, i didnt TELL my mom, she seen me do it, i should really get a lock for my door, hm, so anyway, you should really actually look up attetion seeking, when someones trying to hide something, thats actually the complete opposite, you really dont understand selfharm at all, even if you have done that little thing to urself on purpose, you know nothing about selfharm, or you wouldnt be saying its attetion seeking, its a coping mechnism, some people dont even need a reason to do it, they just see a razor, and just destroy their body, you really dont understand selfharm sweetie, you should really learn more about it, or better yet, do it urself and feel how we feel.
Asher, 'IM EMO, OH LOOK AT ME IM EMO, SO SLIT MY WRISTS N BLACK MY EYES' Soz, but i dont slit my wrists.And btw, 'flying', i aint no goth, i dont wear whitemakeup, and wearblack clothes, with whatever goths wear these days, i aint no emo/goth/punk/whatever. Im me thanks.

[asher_]

REGARDLESS OF ALL THAT CRAP YOU JUST WROTE.. YOU HACK AWAY AT YOUR WRISTS WHICH IS GAY ;llllll hello?!?! appreciate ur life... urm kids in africa die each day and you're there slicing and dicing ;p;llllll

[Condas]

Oh my. i just thought that

I've slit my self in school and i got the scissors tooken away! :(

[sarey]

Regardless of your 'opinions', i do not take notice of what you say, because those kids in Africa were born in a different unwealthy Country than us. Besides, I dont see them kids being abused emotionally/physically do you?
I have a choice, yes, but i choose to cut myself, instead of living in this crap life of mine, which may i say, sucks beyond question.
If you want to lecture about how fortunet i am, your wasting your time, because ive already heard that lame lecture a thousand times before.
Yes, i cut myself, big fricken deal, i dont need you idiots telling me im an attetion seeker/physco/whatever! Because the words are realllyyyy getting outta use now, they dont effect me at all sweeties. :)

[Wolfie]

I Use A Compass

[Wootzeh]

IMO if you slit your wrists you're a complete ****.

[Rockstar]

I WILL NEVER DO IT AND NEVER WILL ASSWELL this girl in my class me and a mate where just slagging her off it quit funny but if you do it your well just crazy

[sarey]

Okay, opinions are aloud. But 'we' are not crazy. You wouldnt understand you people who arnt one of 'us'. You need to have selfharm to understand 'us'.

[Imagine]

IMO if you slit your wrists you're a complete ****.

just because people cut themselves doesnt mean they arent human. you wouldnt like it if someone started slagging you of because of something you couldnt help doing. people who suffer from self harming usually self harm because it helps to relieve any anger or help with depression.

it really annoys me how people **** you off as being "emo" if you self harm. many people who arent "emo" self harm.

[Heinous]

REGARDLESS OF ALL THAT CRAP YOU JUST WROTE.. YOU HACK AWAY AT YOUR WRISTS WHICH IS GAY ;llllll hello?!?! appreciate ur life... urm kids in africa die each day and you're there slicing and dicing ;p;llllll
Translates to me;

omg im a idiot who cant spell appreicateeee ur life m8 ppl r dyin in africa!111 ;llsaofsaspfas;;;

Idiot.

Grow up before you get into a discussion.

[sarey]

Okay emos are totally different to selfharmers, goths aswell, also, african people are unlucky/unfortunet, Selfharmers lives, (well most of them), are unfortunet too, because of the life they are going through, ect ect.
Okay changing subject now arnt we, well have been for a while, so lets go back onto the topic of slitting wrists, how? Hm.

[louder]

I suggest you dont do it..
But, blade from a sharpener works well.

[Ryan+Joe]

well at my school they get a coke can, stamp on it so you get the sharp edges and then slit slit slit!

[FlyingJesus]

Sorry, im 13, not 12. :) And im quite sure the message was how do you cut yourself, so why not give them the lecture on how to, and what to use?

Oh I'm so sorry, you're extra mature because of being 13. Also, the question implies that he simply didn't know what instruments people used.


I hid my selfharm for 3 years, i told no one at all, i didnt TELL my mom, she seen me do it, i should really get a lock for my door, hm, so anyway, you should really actually look up attetion seeking, when someones trying to hide something, thats actually the complete opposite,

No. In many suicide cases, no-one knew previously that the person was depressed. They conceal their self harm, but they still need attention. The reason they conceal it and don't tell anyone is because they're afraid of the consequences - don't want to be labelled as crazy, don't want people to know that they have problems, but nonetheless they need people to know.


you really dont understand selfharm at all, even if you have done that little thing to urself on purpose, you know nothing about selfharm, or you wouldnt be saying its attetion seeking, its a coping mechnism, some people dont even need a reason to do it, they just see a razor, and just destroy their body,

A coping mechanism yes, but it only works because it takes the form of a placebo. You know what that is? I'll give you a clue: it isn't just the name of a transvestite band.


you really dont understand selfharm sweetie, you should really learn more about it, or better yet, do it urself and feel how we feel.

I do understand it, I don't need to learn, I have done it myself and I know how people feel. Sorry to burst your bubble, "sweetie".


Asher, 'IM EMO, OH LOOK AT ME IM EMO, SO SLIT MY WRISTS N BLACK MY EYES' Soz, but i dont slit my wrists.And btw, 'flying', i aint no goth, i dont wear whitemakeup, and wearblack clothes, with whatever goths wear these days, i aint no emo/goth/punk/whatever. Im me thanks.

I love that last bit. Seems these days everyone wants to be "individual", no-one wants to be part of subcultures any more, yet you still say "we" when talking about self harmers, using the collective term as though every self harmer is part of some underground society.


Regardless of your 'opinions', i do not take notice of what you say, because those kids in Africa were born in a different unwealthy Country than us. Besides, I dont see them kids being abused emotionally/physically do you?

Umm.. yes? Kids out there are beaten, raped, sold for slavery, all sorts. Many Africans have to turn to prostitution from the age of 8 in the poorest areas, I'm willing to bet that nothing that bad has ever happened to you.



I have a choice, yes, but i choose to cut myself, instead of living in this crap life of mine, which may i say, sucks beyond question.
If you want to lecture about how fortunet i am, your wasting your time

You're still alive I see, so you're not doing very well. If you truly hated your life and really didn't want to live anymore, you'd actually kill yourself. It isn't that difficult, you're just a spoilt brat who gets "depressed" whenever things don't go your way. Grow up.


Okay, opinions are aloud. But 'we' are not crazy. You wouldnt understand you people who arnt one of 'us'. You need to have selfharm to understand 'us'.

One of us? So what I said above is true, you think self harm allows you to join some club, where no-one can understand you. Well let me tell you, you're wrong. People can still understand you. People will always know how to understand, and nothing that you can do will ever make you any more individual or original or mysterious than anyone else. This is the truth my dear, and it's not pleasant, but you should learn to live with it rather than trying to live with the lies that you know.


Selfharmers lives, (well most of them), are unfortunet too, because of the life they are going through, ect ect.

The life they are going through? You should read the books written by Dave Pelzer and other books like that, those people have it bad, they're abused for most, if not all, of their young lives, and it's all true stories. Oh and get this, these people don't self harm. They get on with it and live through. You maybe do bad at school, or don't get on with your parents, or get angry easily, whatever. You're allowed access to a computer with the internet, so obviously you're not being beaten black and blue every day, or raped by your own family, or subjected to fire and poisonous substances, or forced to eat your own vomit and faeces. Get over yourself, you're nothing special, you have no reason to hate life.

[sarey]

I read all the Dave Pelzer books, and yeah i felt sorry for him seeing of what his drunken sick mother did to him, but i REALLY do not care what people think of me selfharming, because its what ive been doing for over 4 years, and its apart of me. So say what you like, i wasnt abused physically, or sold for slavery, but thats just Africa for you hm? So, say what you want, i dont exactly care what you fools think of selfharming, it isnt emo, or goth, or suicidal. End off. Byebye. (No reason to reply to THIS post because i do not care whatsoever what your opinions on i, myself, and other people who selfharm. And further more, i am not a spoilt brat who cuts themselfs if things dont go my way, because i used to cut to express my feelings, now i just do it if i see a blade. People who cut themselfs and threaten their family members if they dont get their own way, their selfish spoilt idiotic brats.

[Infrontation]

I never will self harm by slitting wrists etc.
a) I hate Needles, Injections and anything that may cause serious pain.
b) I hate when there would be blood coming from anywhere in my body that I have done too myself on purpose. Like if I had a nose bleed or something like someone hit me that would be fine but the thought of that makes me tingle.
c) I use other methods for relieving stress.
d) I don't want too leave any scars or marks like that on my wrists.

[Mr Vodor]

I slit my arm and my hand n even my stomach sometimes but i dont slit my wrists

[FlyingJesus]

i used to cut to express my feelings, now i just do it if i see a blade.

So what you're saying is you used to do it because things didn't go your way, and now you do it because you're just too stupid to stop?

[sarey]

nop i used to do it if i was angry/upset/if ppl upset me example: bullying now i just do it if i see blades, im too stupid to stop? hm.. NAH. im not explaining myself too a pathetic person just so you can get kicks at replying.

[Zenzi]

I can't stand people that slit their wrists. No time for them.

Immature, Selfish, babyish, simple minded children.

"omg i got shouted at at school today. I'll go scratch half a milimetre of skin of my wrist and see how much of peoples time i can waste and how much attention i can get"

If you're going to kill yourself, hurry up and do it. Don't spend time whinging and moaning. There are plenty of other children out there that would die for what some stupid attention seekers have.

My advice: You wanna be cool? Follow the road instead of crossing it.

Also, you rarely die from slitting your wrists anyway. It's like 1 in 60. I would suggest using maybe cyanide?

The kids below really have to work for their lives. Do you see them collapsing on the floor, taking a knife and hacking at their hands? I don't..

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2162/povertychildrenpictures640x425.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Zenzi]

So what you're saying is you used to do it because things didn't go your way, and now you do it because you're just too stupid to stop?

I think that's exactly what shes saying. Shes doing it for the attention?

[Nightrose]

Its like smoking, u get addicted and you cant stop and u find u dont have a reason to do it anymore but u still do it anyway

[JackHb]

I can't stand people that slit their wrists. No time for them.

Immature, Selfish, babyish, simple minded children.

"omg i got shouted at at school today. I'll go scratch half a milimetre of skin of my wrist and see how much of peoples time i can waste and how much attention i can get"

If you're going to kill yourself, hurry up and do it. Don't spend time whinging and moaning. There are plenty of other children out there that would die for what some stupid attention seekers have.

My advice: You wanna be cool? Follow the road instead of crossing it.

Also, you rarely die from slitting your wrists anyway. It's like 1 in 60. I would suggest using maybe cyanide?

The kids below really have to work for their lives. Do you see them collapsing on the floor, taking a knife and hacking at their hands? I don't..

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2162/povertychildrenpictures640x425.png (http://imageshack.us)

Hmm i don't think that is quite right, not everyone who slits themselves do it for the attention or for pathetic reasons.
Sometimes it is uncontrolable.

[FlyingJesus]

nop i used to do it if i was angry/upset/if ppl upset me example: bullying now i just do it if i see blades, im too stupid to stop? hm.. NAH. im not explaining myself too a pathetic person just so you can get kicks at replying.

That actually just backs up what I said.

*People upsetting you is something not going your way.
*You now associate blades with the desire to hurt yourself, pretty foolish in my opinion (note that my opinion is always right).

[JonJon]

Just because you get bullied? People who slit their wrists for this reason should learn to not care what people think about you. Just be yourself, if you don't fit in, tough luck. Just go find a different crowd, or just hang around with one decent friend.

[sarey]

No i got bullied FOR having selfharm, i have some close friends who understand my selfharm and dont judge me at all by it, And flying, people who upset me means they win because things are going exactly how they want it. And jack, thats true, some people who begin and think 'Oh i wont get addicted', 2 - 3 years later, they have scars all over their bodies, not being able to last probably a day without cutting. Some people dont AIM to die, some people cut in different places, depends on what they want, for example: Blood or pain possibly both. And like ive said probably a million times before, if i wanted attetion, id find a less dangerous way and fun way in doing so.

[Jack.]

I find even the thought of slitting my wrists horrible. I've got no reason to do it anyway and I doubt even if I do get extremely stressed I won't relieve it by cutting my wrists...

[Glove.]

-shrug-

When I used to do it I did it with razors.

[Glove.]

The kids below really have to work for their lives. Do you see them collapsing on the floor, taking a knife and hacking at their hands? I don't..

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2162/povertychildrenpictures640x425.png (http://imageshack.us)

They can't afford knives. They're too poor.

[Jack.]

They can't afford knives. They're too poor.

Thats just mean "/

[Glove.]

Thats just mean "/
Yeah but it's true.

[Jack.]

Yeah but it's true.

S'pose.

[Glove.]

You can't say that Africans have it hard and don't cut their wrists when it's pretty impossible for them to do if they own a mud hut and a bucket.

[Infrontation]

They can't afford knives. They're too poor.
There are knives in places like Africa etc.. How too they get wood? Headbutting it.. NO they use machette's and knives and other sharp objects.

[Glove.]

Ooh great someone anonymously bad repped me for saying it. Stop being so politically correct all the time and face up to harsh reality. Idiots.

[Placeeee]

*slits wrists* I need attention llosls I'm depressed hehehz +*+*+*+*

[Zenzi]

Others have valid reasons though, don't they Jack? Me thinks you know what i mean?


Hmm i don't think that is quite right, not everyone who slits themselves do it for the attention or for pathetic reasons.
Sometimes it is uncontrolable.

[Door]

BEFORE I POST, I HAVE NEVER DONE IT AND NEVER WILL.

I see people in my school cutting themselfs with pencil sharpner blades.

I dont have anything against anyone who does it.. But i don't know why anyone would want to do it.. if anyone could explain that ;p?

Never seen anyone slit there wrists and I dont want to. No one at skool does because they know theyd be talked about a lot. I still dont see why people do it. If youre depressed I dont see how hurting yourself makes you feel better because then you have a physical wound.
Sorry I dont understand it but I havent been that annoyed with myself to cut myself, not even when my brother died.

[Uwe]

They can't afford knives. They're too poor.
haha. That made me laugh.


I can't stand people that slit their wrists. No time for them.

Immature, Selfish, babyish, simple minded children.

"omg i got shouted at at school today. I'll go scratch half a milimetre of skin of my wrist and see how much of peoples time i can waste and how much attention i can get"

If you're going to kill yourself, hurry up and do it. Don't spend time whinging and moaning. There are plenty of other children out there that would die for what some stupid attention seekers have.

My advice: You wanna be cool? Follow the road instead of crossing it.

Also, you rarely die from slitting your wrists anyway. It's like 1 in 60. I would suggest using maybe cyanide?

The kids below really have to work for their lives. Do you see them collapsing on the floor, taking a knife and hacking at their hands? I don't..


Thanks -.-

[Juicette]

People who do that, I think they are ******ed (not trying to offend anyone). Honestly they are. Like who would do that to themselves? Are they showing off that they're "emo" or something? Or are they doing that because they're sad or bullied? =\ Well slitting your wrist isn't the solution people!

[sarey]

Never seen anyone slit there wrists and I dont want to. No one at skool does because they know theyd be talked about a lot. I still dont see why people do it. If youre depressed I dont see how hurting yourself makes you feel better because then you have a physical wound.
Sorry I dont understand it but I havent been that annoyed with myself to cut myself, not even when my brother died.

Maybe you should all take a look at this site if you dont understand a thing about selfharm. http://www.recoveryourlife.com/Self_Harm_Information/Self_Harm/Self_Harm_Myths/default.aspx

[Door]

Maybe you should all take a look at this site if you dont understand a thing about selfharm. http://www.recoveryourlife.com/Self_Harm_Information/Self_Harm/Self_Harm_Myths/default.aspx

Looked at it for 15 mins. I understand what happens etc, just not why people do it. I know it says why people do it but I cant get into the frame of mind that someone would endanger their life to seek attention.
I know its what people do, eg. going at 130mph on a main road to show off then killing yourself and 2 other people.

[Wolfsister]

I'm a SI. I cut myself, I have tried elastic bands, icecubes, writing, talking, so many things. I have two therapists and a psyciatrist, one therapist seems to be working, I suggest that.
I hate it how people actually do it in school and then show off about it! It's just wrong! It isn't cool and it never should be. I hate it when people don't understand.
I have some issues, I have lupus and a lot of family problems, I will never change because this is how I am, people don't really understand. SI doens't mean the person is suicidal- it means quite the opposite. I however was suicidal and tried to kill myself 26 times from the end of year 8 to the start of year 9.


EDIT:
http://www.lifeSIGNS.org.uk - amazing site and forum.

[sarey]

Looked at it for 15 mins. I understand what happens etc, just not why people do it. I know it says why people do it but I cant get into the frame of mind that someone would endanger their life to seek attention.
I know its what people do, eg. going at 130mph on a main road to show off then killing yourself and 2 other people.

Like the page said, people who SI do the complete opposite of attetion seeking. I cant get into my mind either on what i do to myself, or what my friends with SI do to themselfs, but i have too.
Theirs many reasons why people abuse their bodies ie:
- Too be punished
- Too release their feelings on themselfs because they are responsable
- Its addictive
- They'd rather focus on physical pain than mental/emotional pain...
- Someones upset you (family members, close friends)
- You want to see blood/pain..
Theirs loads of reasons why.

[FlyingJesus]

Any addiction can be overcome, and any problem can be blocked.

[sarey]

Uh huh, some addictions cant, and go to far.

[FlyingJesus]

No, no matter how far an addiction goes, you can always stop it. Could well be difficult, but it's always possible.

[sarey]

Uh huh,ok.

[FlyingJesus]

There we go, final proof that you are too stupid/arrogant to take in the truth. You've only just entered your teenage years, and as such you're unwilling to believe anything that differs from your normal train of thought. You quote the same thing over and over ("I'm not an attention seeker, you need to learn more about self harm") in the vain hope that those more intelligent and more knowledgable than yourself will simply give up. If you stick to your own thoughts and don't let anyone tell you the real side of things, you will never be able to get over any problems. For your own sake, stop being a brat.

[sarey]

Poo Poo. I began selfharm when i was 9, get that in your head. And also get in your head i was ending the pathetic arguement you began :l

[FlyingJesus]

I didn't say anything about what age you were when you began to self harm, I simply stated the mindset of a typical 13/14 year old.

[sarey]

Okay whatever 'flying' now go fly into the road like a good little bird.

[Polly-alyssa]

I mean how the hell do you slit wrists? Kitchen knifes? School scissors?

I've just been thinking about it alot recently.

Just thinking about it is just euhh if you know what i mean. some girls do it from my year (year8), in the form room... and teachers and dinnerladies frequently walk past. they bring in pen knifes. nd write words with their blood on their arms. but it is just attention seeking. i know that none of them are that unhappy, they got loadsa m8s and good families.

I couldn't do it to myself, afflict pain on myself, i would never do something like that to seek attention. u get scars aswell. if i was really unhappy i would seek adivce online or use something like a stress ball.

[Playgirl]

or use something like a stress ball.

Its hardly the same.

[Uwe]

Its hardly the same.


Get one of those things Michele [Learning Mentors] getting where you can cut it instead of yourself xD

[j0rd$]

Poo Poo. I began selfharm when i was 9, get that in your head. And also get in your head i was ending the pathetic arguement you began :l
I might be wrong, but what can be so depressing for someone at the age of nine?

[Uwe]

I might be wrong, but what can be so depressing for someone at the age of nine?

a parent dying?
a brother/sister dying?
Sexually abused?
Abused?

[j0rd$]

a parent dying?
a brother/sister dying?
Sexually abused?
Abused?
yeah but who knew about slitting their wrists when they were 9 and actually had the nerve to do it?

[StripedTiger]

im against it a little bit.
people who want to be labelled im against.
alot are perfectly healthy people and have nothing wrong with them, yet they cause themself damage whilst theres people in the world who have no legs, have cancer, have a limit to their life etc. and healthy people are doing that to themselves? i find it selfish

[Zample]

I don't know. Plenty of 9 year olds can be exposed to things like that. It depends on the enviroment that they're raised in, see? I first knew about it at the age of 10. But had the nerve to do it? That's hard. Maybe they heard that people do it to relieve stress? Or maybe they just heard that it's a way to get their mind off things? Really, all a 9 year old would need was something sharp and something to influence it.
But it must be sad to be brought to selfharming at the age of 9..:(

[sarey]

When i mean selfharming, i mean banging my heads againts wall, and punching myself/kicking myself, and pushing myself into doors... I didnt begin cutting at 9, i began cutting at 10. And plus my dad kinda triggered it even more, and before that, i dont know what triggered it i just.. did it i guess. :S

[j0rd$]

im against it a little bit.
people who want to be labelled im against.
alot are perfectly healthy people and have nothing wrong with them, yet they cause themself damage whilst theres people in the world who have no legs, have cancer, have a limit to their life etc. and healthy people are doing that to themselves? i find it selfish
why do people always bring that up? "theres people with no money or no legs" etc. just because it looks like they have it bad, if you are perfectly healthy it doesn't mean your life is perfect. you could still get very badly emotionally/verbally abused.

[Magnet]

When I was in York, my mates told me some people in their school use spoons o.o...

[sarey]

A what!? A spoon? Okay then.. confused. :)

[FlyingJesus]

You can sharpen spoons quite easily, all you need is a rough surface (a brick wall would work, so in a school it would be easy to sharpen a spoon). About the "people in other countries have it worse than you" arguments, in the defense of Westerners we don't experience that, and don't actually know how to acknowledge the difficulties that others go through. There's also the case of stress which is much more common in Western culture than anywhere else in the world, but nonetheless self harm is not going to help anyone, it's simply an illusion to cover the fact that people don't know how to handle their problems.

[sarey]

In your opinion maybe.

[Nixt]

:(It depends on who you are, when I did it I didn't want to die, I just wanted to hurt myself, so I made sure I had a clean surgical knife.
Other people just hack away at that arms with blunt scissors. It depends what situation people are in.

[FlyingJesus]

In your opinion maybe.

No, not in my opinion. In reality. You say cutting helps you cope with problems, but there are other non-dangerous ways to cope, you just don't see it because you deny help.

[Nixt]

Yes, in my opinion... But I have first hand experience. I wouldn't do it again, and I wouldn't advise anyone do it.

[sarey]

I DID cut to cope with my problems, and its what i have self control over, but now i dont cut for coping with my problems, like i said, i cut if i see a razor blade lying around. Which is why im getting PROFESSIONAL help, I never said i wanted help on the forums, i just posted away telling my experience, nd what to use to abuse your body. And also, you said non-dangerous to cope right? Which means id use a non dangerous way to get attetion if this whole thing with selfharm and me was an act to get attetion. I also dont deny help, i HAVE to have it now because of a recent incident, which if i dont stop, probably be put into one of those physcitric hospitals. And in reality, its probably a few peoples opinions, but not to some, some dont do it to cope, some do it for pain, blood, punishing themselfs, not JUST coping.

[FlyingJesus]

Self harm for pain/blood is a fetish thing, and doing it to punish yourself is the same as to cope - punishment for something they feel they're done wrong, they cut to cope with the guilt.

[sarey]

Fetish? Hm. your all entilted to an opinion. I cut for pain and blood sometimes, must mean im.. how you call.. fetish. *shrugs* Like i care. :)
Edit: And also, some people who punish dont do it to cope with the guilt, they abuse their own body for doing something and they probably think to themselfs they need to be punished and bring pain to themselfs for doing whatever it was they need to be punished for.

[FlyingJesus]

Edit: And also, some people who punish dont do it to cope with the guilt, they abuse their own body for doing something and they probably think to themselfs they need to be punished and bring pain to themselfs for doing whatever it was they need to be punished for.

Sorry dearie, but doing something "for doing whatever it was" would be out of guilt ^_^

[sarey]

And i see someones stubborn.

[The Professor]

I find it amusing that ive been on a naval base in portsmouth for the best part of a week and a half and this argument is still going on.

[sarey]

Uh huh, which im trying to end by PM'ing her, might of worked, or shes on brb, or afk, or its ended.

[FlyingJesus]

Her?

[jojoandme]

Looked at it for 15 mins. I understand what happens etc, just not why people do it. I know it says why people do it but I cant get into the frame of mind that someone would endanger their life to seek attention.
I know its what people do, eg. going at 130mph on a main road to show off then killing yourself and 2 other people.

The people who do this do it to seek attention to people who care like medics most times they have very few friends or there parents don't parent them so they seek attention from others besides there parents they have no ideas how to seek attention besides hurt them selfs there not gonna just walk in to a hosiptal and say wannabe friends or look what I can do.

[sarey]

Her?

Yes, her. As in you. Saying/writing your name brings a burning sensation to my ears, sorry.


The people who do this do it to seek attention to people who care like medics most times they have very few friends or there parents don't parent them so they seek attention from others besides there parents they have no ideas how to seek attention besides hurt them selfs there not gonna just walk in to a hosiptal and say wannabe friends or look what I can do.

Completely wrong. Selfharmers avoid going to hospital as they take care of their own cuts/burns/whatever they've done, and selfharmers have few friends because they probably foundout what they did to themselfs, furthermore, you really should read the whole thread, where it had a URL with myths about selfharm, and some reasons why people do it, if people do it for attetion, id say; its damn stupid because they could die, and all they ever wanted was attetion, inwhich id say find a safer way of doing so.

[Uwe]

The people who do this do it to seek attention to people who care like medics most times they have very few friends or there parents don't parent them so they seek attention from others besides there parents they have no ideas how to seek attention besides hurt them selfs there not gonna just walk in to a hosiptal and say wannabe friends or look what I can do.

I have loads of friends?
My parents 'love' me?
and I've never been the hospital/docters about it before.

anyway -rep<3

[FlyingJesus]

Yes, her. As in you.

Even if you were unaware of the fact that "Jesus" is a male name, it says in my profile that I'm male, and nowhere have I ever stated otherwise. Sorry matie, wrong again.


Saying/writing your name brings a burning sensation to my ears, sorry.

Nice to know that I make girls hot.

[omgabear]

EWWW

Goddammit I hate the whole wrist cutting thing, id just pass out... I have twice when my friends showed me a cut on their arms

[sarey]

Hm.. no wonder you know nothing about selfharm, males are weaker emotionally than girls, hm, explains alot. Thanks for clearing that up, mostly appreciated.
And hense burning means hurting, burning hot and burning as in fire burning, i have the fire burning sensation. Sorry to disappoint. :) Also, when i read your profile it didnt say male/female, obviously you've recently edited it. And dont call me 'matie, love, sweetie', whatever names you can come up with, because im none of them too you at all, wouldnt like to be either.

[FlyingJesus]

Hm.. no wonder you know nothing about selfharm, males are weaker emotionally than girls, hm, explains alot.

Wrong way round dearie, males are emotionally stronger, hence why females are often seen as more compassionate or sensitive.


And hense burning means hurting, burning hot and burning as in fire burning, i have the fire burning sensation. Sorry to disappoint. :)

Oh darn, I was so hoping to attract 13 year olds.


Also, when i read your profile it didnt say male/female, obviously you've recently edited it. And dont call me 'matie, love, sweetie', whatever names you can come up with, because im none of them too you at all, wouldnt like to be either.

Contradictary aren't we? You PM me asking to be friendly and not argue, then say you don't want to be friends. Looks like you're emotionally weaker there, can't even make up your own mind about one person.

[sarey]

Actually, females are emotionally stonger, males are physically stronger. You should look it up.
Oh you were? *cough* pervert *cough*.
Yeah, that was after you obviously rejected the offer to settle this, inwhich i return to the old archinemesis charade.

[FlyingJesus]

How do you measure emotional strength? It depends on circumstance, ideology and of course the person in question. To be honest, males are generally stronger in both aspects, whether feminists/equality liberals like it or not, there are of course exceptions to each and every rule but you have to accept facts. As a side note, you're not very good at detecting sarcasm.

[sarey]

Neither are you at detecting my sarcasm.
Males are not emotionally stronger, which is why girls are more open about their emotions than boys, physical strength and emotional strength are different, males are stronger, girls are stronger in emotions because females express them more wisely and openly, whereas males open their feelings up uncertainly and unsecurely. My dad for example, covers all his real feelings with anger, im betting some males do that aswell, including yourself.

[Heinous]

Neither are you at detecting my sarcasm.
Males are not emotionally stronger, which is why girls are more open about their emotions than boys, physical strength and emotional strength are different, males are stronger, girls are stronger in emotions because females express them more wisely and openly, whereas males open their feelings up uncertainly and unsecurely. My dad for example, covers all his real feelings with anger, im betting some males do that aswell, including yourself.
Pride is also a factor.

[Rob]

Self harm = need for attention.

Yeah, people say > OH, I'm so depressed, I'm gonna cut myself.

It's all obviously for the attention, it just gets on my nerves. If you're depressed, find a simple pleasure in life, don't destroy it. We only live once. If you're stressed, take up a sport. Like I skateboard, it helps me take out the stress. Alot of people can take stress out by playing ball games, e.g football. You can smack the ball as hard as you want.

I think the worst things are SH (Self Harm) sites. I can't believe some cruel, cruel person has sat there and made a website telling people how they can kill themselves. It's the work of the devil.

I think the main people who do it are Emo's. They say they're depressed, and they say they listen to depressive music. That's a load of crap. Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, The Academy Is.. depressive music?!? I think depressive music is slow music, because with slow music you can think more. If I'm depressed, I just shove some heavy metal on, I don't see how people can actually say it's depressive, because it's fast music, well, most of it is. It cheers me up.

That's all I have to say,
Rob

[sarey]

Hm.. another pathetic male. You think that Rob, you think that. :)

[Many]

Hes made a few points.

[sarey]

No hes made idiotic points about selfharm which he knows NOTHING AT ALL about. Selfharm is a coping mechanism. Not attetion seeking. People who cut to be cool/attetion seek, those are the people you can call that. But 2/3 selfharmers have a real reason. Like, to feel pain, cope with a problem, punishment, too see blood, whatever, every 2/3 selfharmer has a real reason, mostly the other 1/3 is just cutting for attetion/to be cool.
And i dont want any arguements with this post because im sick of arguing now/debating, whatever were doing here. Girls are emotionally stronger, boys are physically stronger, ie:
A male is upset, the male hides the upset feeling and replaces it with anger.
another ie:
A female is upset, the female lets the upset feeling out by crying. Which means females are stronger because they are expressing it more securely, and properley ie: crying. Which means females can handle emotions and control them, males just replace it with anger or whatever. They hide it. From experiences, thats what ive seen so far. And im not changing my opinion.

[Teh_Dazeh]

People use Razor blades, lyk in the greenday music video.
lawl.

It's a sad idea to cut yourself though, like that's going to solve your problems? =l

[sarey]

in some cases it does =l

[Door]

Like the page said, people who SI do the complete opposite of attetion seeking. I cant get into my mind either on what i do to myself, or what my friends with SI do to themselfs, but i have too.
Theirs many reasons why people abuse their bodies ie:
- Too be punished
- Too release their feelings on themselfs because they are responsable
- Its addictive
- They'd rather focus on physical pain than mental/emotional pain...
- Someones upset you (family members, close friends)
- You want to see blood/pain..
Theirs loads of reasons why.

It does say on that site though that they can do it for attention.
I doubt that any of my friends would do it.

P.S. When youre upset you should cry or w/e

[sarey]

Their myths. And also yeah some people do it for attetion or to be cool, but thats 1/3 selfharmer.
P.S No thanks, im fine with what i do atm. :)

[:dallsgreen]

Personally I think the whole self harm thing is dumb, I think there is many other ways to deal with stress and stuff. Theres always people to talk to, and hurting yourself really isnt helping anything.

[discoball.]

But 2/3 selfharmers have a real reason. Like, to feel pain, cope with a problem, punishment, too see blood, whatever, every 2/3 selfharmer has a real reason, mostly the other 1/3 is just cutting for attetion/to be cool.


You got these statistics where..?

[sarey]

From my experiences with selfharm. And they are probably true, 1/3 selfharmers do it to be cool/attetion seek, 2/3 have areal reason. Most of my friends have selfharm, and it took them around a year to tell me, and people in my school i used to go to cut themselfs, and showed them to everyone, and cut in public, but that was only like 4 - 6 people i saw. But yeah, most selfharmers have a real reason. Which is why i averaged it around 2/3 have a real reason and the other third atteton seek/want to be cool.

[sarey]

Im so sorry for double posting but i just found something, it was posted and stickied on a forum i go on ; habbo-positive.co.uk to be precise, posted by calisse:
Self harm is intentionally hurting yourself, this can include cutting burning punching walls pulling your hair out or violent sexual acts

Why do people do it?
80% of self harmers have been sexually abused, but there is no set reason, many people start to draw attention to the fact that they are desperate for some support or help. This is not to be mistaken for the common ''attention seeking'' Self harmers are NOT failed suicide attempts. Although prolonged self harming can lead to suicide attempts

What helps?
Listening to people and trying to find out WHY. You cant solve the problem by removing all the sharp objects in their whole world. Example, if someone robs a bank, giving the money back doesnt make the robber all good again, you have to find out why they were that desperate.

What doesnt?
Get over it
Removing all the sharp objects, it makes them feel like your judging them and theyre doing something wrong
Doing it too
Trying to do it better than them
Putting them down about it
Praising them over it


Attention seekers may self harm
But self harmers dont attention seek.

[FlyingJesus]

No hes made idiotic points about selfharm which he knows NOTHING AT ALL about.

Blimey, you're actually right for once. Sorry Rob, try again.


2/3 selfharmers have a real reason. Like, to feel pain, cope with a problem, punishment, too see blood, whatever, every 2/3 selfharmer has a real reason, mostly the other 1/3 is just cutting for attetion/to be cool.

You said you got that statistic from personal experience, as in the people around you. Seems you have a self harm epidemic going around in your little circle of knife-happy friends, and that's only going to fuel the idea that cutting helps solve problems. If your friends do it, you're more likely to. However much anyone says they're their own person or whatever, everyone is influenced by everything they see and hear in some way.


And i dont want any arguements with this post because im sick of arguing now/debating, whatever were doing here.

Then roll over, you've lost anyway.


Girls are emotionally stronger, boys are physically stronger, ie:
A male is upset, the male hides the upset feeling and replaces it with anger.
another ie:
A female is upset, the female lets the upset feeling out by crying. Which means females are stronger because they are expressing it more securely, and properley ie: crying. Which means females can handle emotions and control them, males just replace it with anger or whatever. They hide it.

Letting other people know how you're feeling doesn't make you emotionally stronger. In your example of being upset, I would say that the more emotionally strong you are, the less the emotion will affect you in any way. Crying about it means that the emotion has beaten your composure, and so you are at that moment in time being emotionally weak. From what you said, that would make women the weaker thus far. Men you say get angry or cover it up completely, that's two options, the latter of which is keeping composure and therefore beating the emotion - being emotionally stronger. Emotional strength is measured in how much you react to an emotion, not how you react to it.



80% of self harmers have been sexually abused, but there is no set reason, many people start to draw attention to the fact that they are desperate for some support or help. This is not to be mistaken for the common ''attention seeking'' Self harmers are NOT failed suicide attempts. Although prolonged self harming can lead to suicide attempts

This is what I meant when I said that any self harm is in some way "attention seeking", even if it's not the bad form where it's done just by spoilt kids. I didn't mean that depressed people think "Hmm, I wonder how I could get some friends" and start cutting, it's just that doing something like that to yourself is a cry for help, even if you think you don't really want help.

[sarey]

Half that post made sense.

[jojoandme]

Yes, her. As in you. Saying/writing your name brings a burning sensation to my ears, sorry.



Completely wrong. Selfharmers avoid going to hospital as they take care of their own cuts/burns/whatever they've done, and selfharmers have few friends because they probably foundout what they did to themselfs, furthermore, you really should read the whole thread, where it had a URL with myths about selfharm, and some reasons why people do it, if people do it for attetion, id say; its damn stupid because they could die, and all they ever wanted was attetion, inwhich id say find a safer way of doing so.
never oncce saidv they would go to the hosiptal for help

[sarey]

Whatever fgs, im not ****** arguin about this pathetic idiotic thread, if u wanna ****** slit ur wrists, use a razor/glass/pencil sharpener blade/knife, UP2U dnt give a dam, bye.

A4AOwen (Forum Moderator) - Please do not avoid the filter.

[Eoin]

I mean how the hell do you slit wrists? Kitchen knifes? School scissors?

I've just been thinking about it alot recently.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/315/rememberkids8hm.jpg

Dont actually do it though.

[Joe.]

hmm, i have no problem with people doing it, its their own life, and if you ask them they just get more depressed.

[Safe Virus]

A 'emo' in my school bough a craving knife into school because the chavvy year 10s were beating him up (Proerply, blood, broken bones) and one day. He came in with his knife and said if they touched him he'd kill them.

It was stupid but worked.

[DJ-Precocious]

A 'emo' in my school bough a craving knife into school because the chavvy year 10s were beating him up (Proerply, blood, broken bones) and one day. He came in with his knife and said if they touched him he'd kill them.

It was stupid but worked.

Sorry but what does this have to do with slitting your own wrists???

My mate is slitting her wrists, because she is 14 and has had sexual relations with lots of boys of the same age and older Although i do not like the fact that she does i still dont stop her because when a person like that has started then some1 like me who has never had a "sexual" relationship wouldnt know anything about it and would have nothing to say so im just asking for a bit of advice

[Pompous-User]

What do you expect? The world is getting taken over by Emo's. Next year, everyone will be Emo. The blue sea water will turn into blood and we'll watch The Used over and over again until we mesmerize the lyrics and carve them into our skin and all that dandy stuff. WE WILL NOT BE SAVED.

[FlyingJesus]

Sorry but what does this have to do with slitting your own wrists???

My mate is slitting her wrists, because she is 14 and has had sexual relations with lots of boys of the same age and older Although i do not like the fact that she does i still dont stop her because when a person like that has started then some1 like me who has never had a "sexual" relationship wouldnt know anything about it and would have nothing to say so im just asking for a bit of advice

Have a go with her yourself, maybe you can make her a bit happier ;) In all seriousness though, you can give her your opinion and I'd encourage you to do so, just because you haven't done the same things as her doesn't mean to say you can't understand.

[sarey]

What do you expect? The world is getting taken over by Emo's. Next year, everyone will be Emo. The blue sea water will turn into blood and we'll watch The Used over and over again until we mesmerize the lyrics and carve them into our skin and all that dandy stuff. WE WILL NOT BE SAVED.

Uh huh.. King of stupidness.
Selfharmers anrt all emos.
End off.

[RLY-CRAIG?]

I'm totally against slitting writsts etc

[Neversoft]

I'm totally against slitting writsts etc

Lmao, yeah sure Sam. :rolleyes_

I never done it and don't plan to. I don't see what people are trying to achieve.

[sarey]

Their not trying to achieve anything.
Its a coping mechinism. Not a goal.

[LittleWoods]

I mean how the hell do you slit wrists? Kitchen knifes? School scissors?

I've just been thinking about it alot recently.

kinda sad if u wanna slit ur wrists but ya no :)

[ColyTom]

What do you expect? The world is getting taken over by Emo's. Next year, everyone will be Emo. The blue sea water will turn into blood and we'll watch The Used over and over again until we mesmerize the lyrics and carve them into our skin and all that dandy stuff. WE WILL NOT BE SAVED.
That is really immature anbd stupid :$

[Lozzoling]

kinda sad if u wanna slit ur wrists but ya no :)

uh,where did i say that i wanted to? -.-

[Ostinato]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=183089

Might come in useful.

[Lozzoling]

ah i've banged my head against many a wall =)

[sarey]

Thats good?

[kel]

if you wanna slit ya wrist's get a hackshaw and start shawing.. but personally i think theres summat wrong with you if you even want to do that lol.. go see a doctor first is my advice.

[sarey]

Hackshaw? Nahhhh! Hacksaw.. also why would people hack away with a hacksaw? I mean, people only do it with razors/blades from razors/glass/knifes/pencil sharpener blades.. not blimen hacksaws. LOL sorry but thats like a idiotic thing to say... hacksaw.. LOL makes me laugh now. But yeah anyway, i dont think people would have the guts to do it with that, besides hacksaws are just.. for people who want to commit suicide normally.. but yeah if you wanna hack at your wrists, do so.. but my advice: Be careful.. :S