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BlackGarden
22-01-2005, 03:20 PM
Okay well I don't know how much truth there is in this. Maybe somebody will. Earlier I saw a new silver Hobba called Zycon. He was acting like a bit of a jerk and sending out alerts to people because they told a joke or just because he didn't like them.
Anyway, I told a friend about him, and they'd also seen him acting like that. They said he was under 18 and had been allowed to become a Hobba because the Habbo staff knew and liked him or something.
To me this seems rather unlikely but it would really explain his behaviour... does anybody know about this?

Kier
22-01-2005, 03:29 PM
A friend of mine actually had a chat with him. He wouldn't tell me what the rumour was but he said that he found out the truth and ran away from him.

The person who was talking to Zycon is a person to be trusted aswell so he wouldn't lie. I think he's under 18.

BlackGarden
22-01-2005, 03:35 PM
A friend of mine actually had a chat with him. He wouldn't tell me what the rumour was but he said that he found out the truth and ran away from him.

The person who was talking to Zycon is a person to be trusted aswell so he wouldn't lie. I think he's under 18.
Thanks for the info. I contacted Habbo about it. I doubt they can tell me whether he's under 18 or not for privacy reasons, but I'm pretty peeved because after the age changed they told me there was no way they could look at my application until I was 18. I told them that he'd been abusive of his powers anyway, so I'm hoping that they'll at least do something about that...

OllieRocks
22-01-2005, 04:31 PM
I think he prob is! I've seen him too!

BlackGarden
22-01-2005, 04:35 PM
Thanks Ollie. Has anyone else seen him?
By the way, once I get an (undoubtably rude) response from Habbo I will post it here.

OllieRocks
22-01-2005, 04:47 PM
OOooooo...........

What did they say?

BlackGarden
22-01-2005, 04:57 PM
I haven't had a response yet, but when I do I will post it here.

Nutter
22-01-2005, 05:24 PM
if hes under the age of 18 and abusing commands he wont pass to become gold that simple

Mit
22-01-2005, 05:34 PM
anyway i think its very easy to fake being 18, just give them your old brother/sisters details

Kier
22-01-2005, 05:37 PM
No I think habbo knew he's under 18 (if he is).

I'll call my friend Mr.X and tell you what happened.

Mr.X heard a rumour about Zycon and decided to meet him in his room. When Zycon arrived, Mr.X asked Zycon if the rumour was true and confronted him. Zycon then removed Mr.X and ran away.

I think this is because Mr.X knew the truth.

Sabu
22-01-2005, 06:03 PM
You can't trust the people whop say hes under 18!
Besides,hes a HOBBA!Hobbas KNOW not to give out there personal details

wootzy
22-01-2005, 06:03 PM
hmmmmmmmm, im in theatredrome evry time he comes, i ask him and runs

Kier
22-01-2005, 06:16 PM
You can't trust the people whop say hes under 18!
Besides,hes a HOBBA!Hobbas KNOW not to give out there personal details

Hobbas arn't gods you know. They don't do everything right and be perfect.

BlackGarden
22-01-2005, 06:26 PM
I would like to point out that I would never have believed that Habbo would allow someone under 18 to become a Hobba but this situation really does have something fishy about it.

You can't trust the people whop say hes under 18!
Besides,hes a HOBBA!Hobbas KNOW not to give out there personal details
If it was just that he didn't want to give out personal details then he'd say so... it's the fact that he's running away that makes me suspicious. Besides, I don't think many Hobbas are exactly cagey about the fact that they're over 18 because that's part of the criteria.
EDIT: Also I'd like to add that if Habbo staff thought he was so great and wanted to make him a Hobba despite him being underage, do you think they'll believe reports of him abusing his powers?
If ANYONE sees Zycon (or any other Hobba for that matter but this thread is about Zycon) abusing his powers they should take a screenshot if they can, and report the matter to Habbo immediately via the Habbo website (help and safety>contact us). The only way Habbo will believe Zycon is abusing his powers is if enough people report him with supporting evidence.

Jacko2kn3
22-01-2005, 06:49 PM
A few points:
Mit, AFAIK you have to send in an ID card to prove it is you. Don't quote me on that, maybe we should ask NEW SILVER HOBBA JRH2002 ! *grin*
Ahem. Anywho.
At first I didn't believe Habbo would make someone under 18 a hobba, but after reading Kieron's 'Mr.X' story, it is sounding more and more likely.
Contacting habbo is all that can be done atm, so we'll have to wait for BlackGarden to get a reply.

TooClose$
22-01-2005, 07:08 PM
habbos cannot become hobbas/staff just because london staff like them, its against the uk moderating law.
:D even 18+ can be immature sometimes!! :D
what if it was his little brother/sister?

Azela
22-01-2005, 07:11 PM
Never, the habbo staff would knowingly make someone a hobba. That is against moderation laws and if they did know the hotel would probably be shut down. Why would they jepadise all that? if he is underage then he must of lied, habbo staff would NEVER knowingly hire someone underage.

BlackGarden
22-01-2005, 07:19 PM
There are no moderation laws. If there were, people from the UK would not be allowed to become Hobbas on Habbo Hotel USA. Habbo Hotel made the changes because they felt it was best that people under 18 concentrated on school and family.
Also, Habbo would not have allowed in one more batch of the over 16 Hobbas after they changed the age if there was in fact a law (and they did have another batch, a few months after). Being a Hobba is voluntary, not paid work, and as such there are no laws governing who can and cannot volunteer.

Nutter
22-01-2005, 07:56 PM
someone said your not allowed giving out personal info well asl isnt personal info =\

tularis
22-01-2005, 08:38 PM
I reckon it's different on USA because people aren't actually moderating, just "guiding" people, as they call it.

Jacko2kn3
22-01-2005, 08:58 PM
someone said your not allowed giving out personal info well asl isnt personal info =\

ASL is personal information. Any information about you is personal. Your age, gender and location is VERY person. Don't give it out.

Adzeh
22-01-2005, 09:17 PM
I havent seen him, i think it might be possible that habbo ltd have let him in as a one off. But its a 50/50 argument.

I think that if you see him acting like this again, you should call for help and make the habbo staff aware of his behaviour.

BlackGarden
23-01-2005, 12:01 AM
I havent seen him, i think it might be possible that habbo ltd have let him in as a one off. But its a 50/50 argument.

I think that if you see him acting like this again, you should call for help and make the habbo staff aware of his behaviour.
Thing is though, if he is a one off, why? I applied when I was 16 and the age was still 16, and then the age changed and I've been waiting patiently for my 18th birthday since so they can look at my application then. I was explicitly, and rudely, told by Habbo "Guest Services" that they were not accepting any further applications from under 18s, even if they existed before the change of age limit. Habbo should NOT be using one rule for one person and another for everyone else!!

Just pointing out though that the rumour is still unsubstantiated, and we have no proof, just some very suspicious behaviour.

Sabra
23-01-2005, 03:53 AM
Ok I JUST talked to a hobba and they said they are VERY STRICT on the ID. So this does not 100% say that Zycon is not less then 18. It is just saying there very strict so he most likely has to be 18+ So maybe he is just a little nervous that he is now a hobba, so maybe he acts a little childish. But he had to pass the applications,interviews,and now he's silver so... :s

andrew
23-01-2005, 04:23 AM
Interesting..

All of you bring up great points.. There are laws, I believe, that restrict Habbo's from becoming Hobbas untill they are a certain age. The only reason .com is different, is because of the fact that thier moderation laws allow younger people to moderate (13+). I'm sure he was just acting immature, and if he really is under age, thanks to you guys e-mailing staff, they will find out soon. But Black, please let us know what happens!

infatuation
23-01-2005, 04:50 AM
Never, the habbo staff would knowingly make someone a hobba. That is against moderation laws and if they did know the hotel would probably be shut down. Why would they jepadise all that? if he is underage then he must of lied, habbo staff would NEVER knowingly hire someone underage.



Azela.. your wrong, remember when the habbo age for a hobba applicant was 16? they took off most hobbas at 16-15 when they turned it to applicant 18, but they left a few on.. i actually know one ;)

Sabra
23-01-2005, 04:59 AM
they didnt remove any of the 16 year old hobba's they kept them all trust me. :)

Kier
23-01-2005, 10:25 AM
Sabra's right. They kept all of the 16 year olds on.

But everyone is saying: "A hobba said this". Hobbas arn't perfect, they're still people at a computer screen. They can still lie.

BlackGarden
23-01-2005, 10:25 AM
Where is all this stuff about a "moderation law" coming from? There are no laws to cover what volunteer work you can and can't do when you're under 18! (If I'm wrong on that please please just link me to an actual government site showing me the law rather than just vaguely explaining.) There are laws covering what paid work you can do. Maybe some parents of 16-17 year old Hobbas were concerned that their children treated their volunteer work too much like a real job, but spent more time doing it than the laws for paid work allowed, and consequently their school work was suffering.
The official line Habbo gave me whenever I asked about the age change (even though my question was what would happen to my application - stupid guest services...) was that Habbo felt it was best that 16 year olds concentrated on their school work. I have a feeling they may also have wanted to keep the number of applications down a bit.

BenF1
23-01-2005, 10:47 AM
I think it's very unfair to let someone under the age limit become a Hobba.
That rule is there for a reason, and it can't be changed just because of one person.
All we can do is wait for a reply from BlackGarden's email.

BlackGarden
23-01-2005, 10:49 AM
I think it's very unfair to let someone under the age limit become a Hobba.
That rule is there for a reason, and it can't be changed just because of one person.
All we can do is wait for a reply from BlackGarden's email.
This is exactly what I think, though I do have to continuously point out that the rumour has NOT yet been confirmed.

2hd.
23-01-2005, 10:50 AM
if this is true habbo fansites will be running stories for weeks about corruption of habbo :o

GommeInc
23-01-2005, 12:33 PM
Hobba's cant do everything either, they can't stop hackers or scripters. Hacking as in viruses and keyloggers. As they run the risk being scammed.

bladesbcrew
23-01-2005, 01:16 PM
oh my god ur all daft. he will have lied on his date of birth!

WiseBen
23-01-2005, 02:15 PM
I've seen on something that super hobbas can do activity logs on silver hobbas or any other hobbas, it may be only staff, but if this is the case, you could ask lincognito or mizki to try and find out some things like what he does, what he says and this could get some proof....

Concentric
23-01-2005, 03:10 PM
Where is all this stuff about a "moderation law" coming from? There are no laws to cover what volunteer work you can and can't do when you're under 18! (If I'm wrong on that please please just link me to an actual government site showing me the law rather than just vaguely explaining.)
Just because there is not a law on it doesn't mean that Habbo is not allowed to choose what age they hire their Hobbas at. Habbo can choose whatever age they like, it isn't because there is a British law saying that you can't do voluntary work under 18, because of course you can. Habbo choose 18 for a number of reasons that you already understand.

2hd.
23-01-2005, 03:22 PM
oh my god ur all daft. he will have lied on his date of birth!
yes but u also need an id card to become a hobba he probably just used his brothers...

BlackGarden
23-01-2005, 03:47 PM
Just because there is not a law on it doesn't mean that Habbo is not allowed to choose what age they hire their Hobbas at. Habbo can choose whatever age they like, it isn't because there is a British law saying that you can't do voluntary work under 18, because of course you can. Habbo choose 18 for a number of reasons that you already understand.
The reason I was referring to law is because if you read through this thread a lot of people seem to have the impression that Habbo chose the age 18 because of a law. I was just making certain it was understood that it was not in fact a law, but a choice Habbo had made for other reasons, and thus if they did allow someone to become a Hobba under the age of 18, knowingly or unknowingly, they would not risk being shut down as there is no law in place to shut them down.

2hd: Yes, it's possible that if he is under 18 and Habbo had not realised, that he had used an older brother's name and date of birth to obtain an ID. Or he could simply have lied about his own DOB when obtaining the ID and hoped that they did not check his reference. CitizenCard very rarely check references. I'm pretty sure they didn't check mine. However, he could have been caught out by a random check if he had done that.

Kier
23-01-2005, 03:50 PM
Ok since everyone is curious about this rumour I have messaged GlitterKat about it and i'm looking into it. If I found out anymore i'll post it here first.

Evolution
23-01-2005, 03:51 PM
Zycon is on my list and he seems cool, as the Habbo Staff on this forum have said MANY MANY TIMES, Habbo have very strict ID orders.

BlackGarden
23-01-2005, 04:00 PM
Zycon is on my list and he seems cool, as the Habbo Staff on this forum have said MANY MANY TIMES, Habbo have very strict ID orders.
Thanks for the feedback Evolution. I'm aware that Habbo have very strict ID orders, but frankly they can be got past. A friend of mine "tested" the system last year and got to something like stage 3 despite being just 14 as she used an older sister's name and DOB to obtain her ID. She then told them she was no longer interested in becoming a Hobba.
I am certainly not the sort of person who would believe a rumour like this normally, but he is acting very suspiciously. Even if the rumour is not true, I don't think he should have a badge because of all those alerts he sent. Sorry if you like him, but that bit really is definitely true.
EDIT to add: Cool Kieron. She may be unwilling to say for privacy reasons, but it's worth a try really.

andrew
23-01-2005, 04:59 PM
Yes, Habbo is very strict about privacy as you know, and I doubt they would be able to give any information concerning his age etc. If you think about it, he could just be a really immature 18 year old, and in that case, would likely lose his badge.

I'm sure though, this isn't the last we will hear about him. :)

2hd.
23-01-2005, 05:02 PM
this has been a gr8 story

Azela
23-01-2005, 05:53 PM
Blackgarden this 'moderation law' is coming from the goverment but obviously you know more than glitterkat don't you?

BlackGarden
23-01-2005, 06:30 PM
Azela I've asked for anyone who has anything further to say about there being a law about moderating on internet chat rooms to link to a government site specifying the law. I have just searched Her Majesty's Stationary Office myself for any laws created in the applicable period about moderating online, and about voluntary work, but as you are convinced that there is a law, perhaps you would like to search.

Also, as I have said in previous posts, I have received the official line from Habbo before about the age change which is that they felt it was best that those under 18 focused on school and family. They did not mention legal factors. I am not trying to say I know more than GlitterKat, I am merely repeating what I have been told by Habbo. Those people saying that there is a law have obviously at some point got the wrong end of the stick. In fact, this is exactly what they said:

"Habbo Hotel has raised the Hobba application age because Hobbas have a huge amount of responsibilities to deal with each day. With over three million Habbos in the hotel and 300 or more calls for help per hour, we don't feel it is reasonable to expect minors to commit the time needed for training and Hobba tasks.

Habbo Hotel feels that education and family come first; relaxing on Habbo should be fun!" - From an e-mail from Habbo dated Nov 9 2003. Too bad it didn't actually answer my question.

Habbo made the decision of their own accord to raise the application age, as they have a full right to do, and they would not be at risk of being shut down for allowing someone under that age to become a Hobba. Again it would be their own decision (though horrifically unfair on everyone else). This discussion is concerned with two things:

1) Whether Habbo have indeed breached their own rules to allow someone to become a Hobba under 18.
2) Zycon's abuse of his powers.
If we keep on talking about why Habbo changed the age we're really straying from the point somewhat.

EDIT: I have had a thought that perhaps at some point Habbo referred to "legal reasons" when asked about the Hobba age change, without being specific, which caused some people to assume that there was a specific law about moderating internet chatrooms. Of course there is no such law as you can set your own up at the age of 13, and would moderate it yourself. If Habbo had referred to "legal reasons" they were probably referring to under 18s legally being minors, and them feeling it was unfair to give minors such responsibilities.

Nutter
24-01-2005, 12:49 AM
ASL isnt personal info and its ok to ask for it asking for someones first name isnt personal info

Personal info involves
where you live ie home address street etc
email
first and last names
Phone number
etc thats personal info

BLAH100
24-01-2005, 03:30 AM
There are Moderation laws in the Uk and in Australian and most of the other hotels except in the US where the moderation laws are different. It even says about the age limit because of the laws on the habbo site in the faqs ;)

BlackGarden
24-01-2005, 12:57 PM
There are Moderation laws in the Uk and in Australian and most of the other hotels except in the US where the moderation laws are different. It even says about the age limit because of the laws on the habbo site in the faqs ;)
Sorry but there are no such laws. At 13 you can open your own chatroom hosted anywhere round the world and moderate it yourself. As far as the law is concerned, Habbo Hotel is no different from such a chatroom. If you're going to continue to refer to laws please link to them. I just had to scour the FAQs myself to find absolutely nothing. The only things vaguely reminiscent of such a law are the UK laws for working with children which state that you must be police vetted. Of course it could all be to do with ensuring that parents are confident that their children are safe, and Habbo felt that parents were uneasy about 16 year olds being responsible for their children's safety.
This is all totally immaterial to the discussion anyway so can we please stop arguing about nonexistant laws now?
Personal info is anything personal to you. It is unlikely that anyone could find you from your name, age, gender, and the country you live in, but you must be careful not to give out such information in an offhand way because you could end up being really offhand about any information about yourself, such as your e-mail address, or your school. The more someone learns about you, the closer they are to finding out where you live and what your surname is!

HAYRIYE1992
24-01-2005, 01:12 PM
yes very strange i agree but it is a criminal offence to have a fake age on the internet and no habbo wouldnt make someone a hobba because they knew them because for gods sake this is a proper company in london!! but im guessing its a underage hobba but then again im not because as you say its a silver hobba because silver is a good stage to become a gold hobba but if he was udnerage they wouldnt of made him a silver hobba let alone a proper hobba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAYRIYE1992
24-01-2005, 01:16 PM
Could you change my habbo name for me in habbo hotel UK smexkitten!!! because i was banned for having a unacceptable name but i didnt no nothing wrong

Edit by KieronReed: Please don't double post, simply edit your previous post by clicking the edit button.

Rareoid
24-01-2005, 04:03 PM
Ok, heres the low down on this.

This hobba is NOT 18. He is an "experiment" of Glitterkat's, and will be a hobba for a month. There many rumours of who Zycon is, and i now know but i will not say as it is private.

Thanks.

2hd.
24-01-2005, 04:10 PM
and your reliable source is....

Rareoid
24-01-2005, 04:11 PM
Will Glitterkat do?

BlackGarden
24-01-2005, 04:14 PM
Thanks Rareoid this is interesting information. I guess this is an experiment that didn't work, as he is abusing his powers.
You rock dude :wav:

SoraSafe
24-01-2005, 10:40 PM
Probably to actually see how a minor behaves and from what BlackGarden says it doesn't look good :P quite a lot of kids think the more you use your commands the better (as in habbohotel.com for example).

Sabra
24-01-2005, 10:46 PM
Or maybe she was seeing, it she put a young hobba out there and he did well that she could lower the age of becoming a hobba.. :s

andrew
25-01-2005, 04:32 AM
Ok, heres the low down on this.

This hobba is NOT 18. He is an "experiment" of Glitterkat's, and will be a hobba for a month. There many rumours of who Zycon is, and i now know but i will not say as it is private.

Thanks.

Well, if this information is true and it is to see how younger Habbo's act with Hobba power's he certainly isn't setting a good example for everyone else who would enjoy becoming a Hobba. Of course, this might not be true either.. He could just be a 18 year old, who doesn't come across as "mature" online. I'd certainly like to see what the whole experiment is about though! :)

Kier
25-01-2005, 08:31 AM
Zycon is on my list and he seems cool, as the Habbo Staff on this forum have said MANY MANY TIMES, Habbo have very strict ID orders.

I find it amusing how no hobbas or habbo staff that use these forums haven't commented yet.

Jase
25-01-2005, 03:27 PM
ya they ain't said nothin to say tht it ain't true....

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 07:15 PM
If he is a test, I think I know who it is.

GommeInc
25-01-2005, 07:25 PM
SoraSafe, that made no sense...

I agree with Sabra, perhaps they are using a young Hobba to see how well he is to lower the age of Hobba's int he UK.

I sent an e-mail to the community person of Sulake and she thinks it would be a good idea to lower it.

BlackGarden
25-01-2005, 07:36 PM
SoraSafe, that made no sense...

I agree with Sabra, perhaps they are using a young Hobba to see how well he is to lower the age of Hobba's int he UK.

I sent an e-mail to the community person of Sulake and she thinks it would be a good idea to lower it.
I was pretty annoyed when they first raised the age. Mainly because it meant I had to wait another 1 1/2 years to become a Hobba, even though I'd already applied (still waiting... 'til May). But then after seeing what happened on Habbo USA, and thinking about how much the application rate must have gone down in the UK since the age change (I remember people used to be waiting for over a year for a response), I realised perhaps it wasn't such a good idea to let people under 18 be Hobbas.
Also, Habbo obviously think it pretty important that parents feel their children are safe on Habbo - that's why they made a parents' guide. If I were a parent, I don't think I'd feel comfortable with people from the age of just 16 being responsible for my children's safety. 18 may only be 2 years older, but to be frank I myself have matured a lot since I was 16 and I think a lot of people are far more mature by 18 than they were at 16.
It's still annoying that I've had to wait a long time, but I think it's best that I did because I would not have been as responsible with Hobba powers as I'm sure I would be now I guess.
If you're under 18 and you want to be a Hobba, just think to yourself "why do I really want to be a Hobba?". For me, it's because I want to help other Habbos. So why not just do that now? I can still help people now. I might not be receiving calls for help but you'd be surprised how many people you can help by hanging round public rooms. If you have another reason why you want to be a Hobba, then perhaps it's best that you're having to wait.
I hope that didn't sound patronising.

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 07:39 PM
SoraSafe, that made no sense...
I meant if he is under 18 I think I know who he is.

GommeInc
25-01-2005, 07:45 PM
I guess that helps a bit, who?

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 08:01 PM
Who Zycon is.

8Freak8
25-01-2005, 08:10 PM
Yes, who is Zycon?

2hd.
25-01-2005, 08:12 PM
Who Zycon is.

well duh... who is he then?

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 08:29 PM
I said I THINK I know who he is. I'm not saying though in case he isn't underage and if he is who I think he is then I shouldn't give it away, though it was pretty easy for me to draw a conclusion.

2hd.
25-01-2005, 08:31 PM
yh sure u know who it is........ :@

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 08:33 PM
Lol I never said I knew it was, I merely think I know who he could be.

2hd.
25-01-2005, 08:41 PM
ok, so who do you THINK it is or are you just us messing around?

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 08:42 PM
I prefer not to say, and how would I be messing you around?

2hd.
25-01-2005, 08:47 PM
by stringing us along with your so called 'Hobba'. Im afraid i do not believe beacuse by posting his name out of habbo you can't be subjected to any tpyes of bans.

Anti-Pod
25-01-2005, 08:54 PM
that is true, you can also get an admin to delete your post or YOU can edit it :)
once people have seen, also prove you THINK you know, what made you think you know, what clue's ect...

We Want Proof!

2hd.
25-01-2005, 08:58 PM
well said that man!

Rareoid
25-01-2005, 09:10 PM
I know who it is but won't post.

In regard to people saying that he is abusing powers i can confirm he hasn't stepped out of line. If he had, he would be of the experiment straight away!

GommeInc
25-01-2005, 09:13 PM
Who wants a trip to SoraSafe's House, my treat. Or! Tell us who you think it is via PM

SoraSafe
25-01-2005, 09:15 PM
Work it out yourselves, I did :/

BlackGarden
25-01-2005, 09:18 PM
I know who it is but won't post.

In regard to people saying that he is abusing powers i can confirm he hasn't stepped out of line. If he had, he would be of the experiment straight away!
Dude I saw him abusing his powers...

Flava
26-01-2005, 07:47 AM
Does it matter if he's underage? There could be a PERFECTLY good reason for why he was hired. You don't even know if it's true.

Anyway, Rareoid called it an "experiment" - so I think that Habbo are simplying experimenting the hobba system over at habbo US, with a few people over in the UK.

I don't know who it is - but who cares? Why do you need to know?

Kier
26-01-2005, 08:05 AM
Well people are outraged that he gets to be a hobba under 18 and they can't.

But if you think about it, if the 'experiment' goes well then you might have a chance to be a hobba. (Although it'd be more like a guide)

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 11:31 AM
Well people are outraged that he gets to be a hobba under 18 and they can't.

But if you think about it, if the 'experiment' goes well then you might have a chance to be a hobba. (Although it'd be more like a guide)
Yeah this is the reason this whole issue grates with me so much (if it's true).
I have waited since September 2003 for my application to be processed despite applying before the age change because Habbo decided that ONLY people over 18 could be Hobbas. I was annoyed at the time, then I calmed down 'cos I thought "at least it's the same for everyone". But it appears it's not. Somebody gets to become a Hobba under 18, and it's done in an underhand way not publicly. Yet I have to wait another 3 months or so to even get my application back on the pile? Yeah, that's fair.

I don't know who it is - but who cares? Why do you need to know?
The point is that if it has been done, it has been done in an underhand and secretive manner, and it's unfair on everyone else, especially people who applied at the age of 16 before the age change, or who were about to apply but had the frustration of having the age changed on them.

Rareoid
26-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Guys, this thread has gone on way too much.

Zycon is a hobba.

He is between 16-17. Therefore, he is past the legal age. Therefore, he's not breaking the law. Just habbos rules.

Therefore, (sorry for all the therefores) if habbo want to badge him, they can and us making a fuss won't change that fact.

Anyway, it might be about mini mois, or guide like hobbas under 18, so i don't think we should complain.

No matter how much i hate him, or how you are angered by him being a hobba, us making a fuss won't change it.

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 06:53 PM
Guys, this thread has gone on way too much.

Zycon is a hobba.

He is between 16-17. Therefore, he is past the legal age. Therefore, he's not breaking the law. Just habbos rules.

Therefore, (sorry for all the therefores) if habbo want to badge him, they can and us making a fuss won't change that fact.

Anyway, it might be about mini mois, or guide like hobbas under 18, so i don't think we should complain.

No matter how much i hate him, or how you are angered by him being a hobba, us making a fuss won't change it.
1) There is no legal age. That fact has already been gone over many many times in this thread. The only issue is that under 18s need parental consent. I guess I know what position one of his parents must have in the hotel.
2) We are not denying that Habbo have a right to badge whoever they like. However, as I have said above, it is extremely unfair on EVERYONE else. Quite why Habbo think it's just fine to have one rule for one person and another for everyone else, I do not know. If Habbo want to experiment with "guides" under 18, then that's fine, but I really think they should tell people about it rather than just going behind everyone's backs.
3) Believing that voicing your opinion makes no difference is an extremely defeatist attitude and will get you nowhere.

2hd.
26-01-2005, 07:00 PM
maybe its dave?? :p

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 07:15 PM
maybe its dave?? :p
Dave? Who is Dave? Am I missing something? :(

2hd.
26-01-2005, 07:23 PM
DJ-3000 a high up person in Habbox who knows callie well but then it could be cheezy2 etc.

Michael.
26-01-2005, 07:33 PM
Guys, this thread has gone on way too much.

Zycon is a hobba.

He is between 16-17. Therefore, he is past the legal age. Therefore, he's not breaking the law. Just habbos rules.

Therefore, (sorry for all the therefores) if habbo want to badge him, they can and us making a fuss won't change that fact.

Anyway, it might be about mini mois, or guide like hobbas under 18, so i don't think we should complain.

No matter how much i hate him, or how you are angered by him being a hobba, us making a fuss won't change it.
So Habbo are allowed to break their own rules? And then when people get banned for saying 'Script'?! Don't you think that is "Moving the goalposts" a bit?

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 07:36 PM
So Habbo are allowed to break their own rules? And then when people get banned for saying 'Script'?! Don't you think that is "Moving the goalposts" a bit?
I know I've posted a lot on this topic today but I just wanted to say that you using the phrase "moving the goalposts" made me laugh so much. It's the EXACT phrase I used when Habbo first changed the age to 18 and informed me that I couldn't have my application looked at until I was 18. That's exactly what Habbo have done!

DJ-3000 a high up person in Habbox who knows callie well but then it could be cheezy2 etc.
Aaah that Dave. It isn't Cheezy2, I know that for sure.

2hd.
26-01-2005, 07:57 PM
and so the mystery goes on...

Flava
26-01-2005, 08:23 PM
You guys are just jelous that somebody underage is a hobba while you can't be. You ignore the fact that Zycon might be a good hobba, and that it could actually benefit you in the end - because if the experiment goes well, there will be more under 18 guides/mods.

2hd.
26-01-2005, 08:31 PM
your view... im jsut interested in finding out who he is. Wouldn't want to be a hobba myself be very depressing working with people who 99% of the time are unhappy...

Michael.
26-01-2005, 08:33 PM
You guys are just jelous that somebody underage is a hobba while you can't be. You ignore the fact that Zycon might be a good hobba, and that it could actually benefit you in the end - because if the experiment goes well, there will be more under 18 guides/mods.
I'm not jealous, the only reason I'm talking about this is because Habbo are corrupt!

The Plot Thickens!

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 08:40 PM
You guys are just jelous that somebody underage is a hobba while you can't be. You ignore the fact that Zycon might be a good hobba, and that it could actually benefit you in the end - because if the experiment goes well, there will be more under 18 guides/mods.
Firstly, yes I am jealous, but mostly I'm angry at how unfair this is. As I have already stated several times in this thread I had already applied when the age changed, but nonetheless was told I would have to wait until I was 18 to have my application looked at. Actually I was told EXTREMELY rudely by Habbo's "Guest Services" that there was absolutely NO WAY that they would EVER consider looking at any more applications from under 18s, even those received before the age change.
Secondly, Zycon, from the evidence I've seen, is not a good Hobba. He has been severely abusing his powers.
Thirdly, it would not benefit me if there were more under 18 guides/mods as I will be 18 in May. Judging from Zycon's behaviour that I've seen, having more under 18 guides/mods would benefit NOBODY. The only thing I can think of is that it may be beneficial to allow people to apply and train at the age of 17, and then become a full Hobba once they're 18 and have passed their training, to speed up the application process.
I think you're missing the point that we really do have a right to be angry, upset, or jealous. The way Habbo have done this is utterly messed up and totally unfair.

Rareoid
26-01-2005, 08:48 PM
BlackGarden, i do like to voice my opinions as i have already on this subject to Glitterkat.

Their minds made up, Zycon is a hobba for a month.

Plus, its not DJ-3000 or Cheezy2. Your going on the right lines though!

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 08:59 PM
Glad to hear you've already voiced your opinion to GlitterKat on this.
I understand that their minds are made up, but I feel that it is unfair, and I want them to understand that I think this, and to understand my frustrations.

Hmm... on the right lines... someone from the Habbo Council...?

SoraSafe
26-01-2005, 09:09 PM
It's easy to see who it is :P

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 09:17 PM
It's easy to see who it is :P
Oh shush just because you know.

PM me and tell me who it is? Please? *Puppy dog face*

ramjet
26-01-2005, 09:41 PM
Sorry but there are no such laws. At 13 you can open your own chatroom hosted anywhere round the world and moderate it yourself. As far as the law is concerned, Habbo Hotel is no different from such a chatroom. If you're going to continue to refer to laws please link to them. I just had to scour the FAQs myself to find absolutely nothing. The only things vaguely reminiscent of such a law are the UK laws for working with children which state that you must be police vetted. Of course it could all be to do with ensuring that parents are confident that their children are safe, and Habbo felt that parents were uneasy about 16 year olds being responsible for their children's safety.
This is all totally immaterial to the discussion anyway so can we please stop arguing about nonexistant laws now?
Personal info is anything personal to you. It is unlikely that anyone could find you from your name, age, gender, and the country you live in, but you must be careful not to give out such information in an offhand way because you could end up being really offhand about any information about yourself, such as your e-mail address, or your school. The more someone learns about you, the closer they are to finding out where you live and what your surname is!

habbo is no ordinary chatroom over 2,000,000 accounts have been registered u need adults running a network this big

BlackGarden
26-01-2005, 09:48 PM
habbo is no ordinary chatroom over 2,000,000 accounts have been registered u need adults running a network this big
Yes, but what I am saying is that there are no laws to say that it has to be adults running the network. I think it is best that the network is run and moderated by adults, but there are no legal issues, as people have been suggesting (and in some cases saying outright) in this thread.
In the eyes of the law, Habbo Hotel is just another chatroom. There are not any special laws for Habbo that are different than for other chatrooms.

Arcanum
27-01-2005, 08:09 AM
It's easy to see who it is :P
Gar! I might know who it is...

Could it be jrh2002? This isn't meant to offend him, but I really didn't think he was 18... judging by how he types on the forum...

Oooh, am I on to something??

BlackGarden
27-01-2005, 03:21 PM
Gar! I might know who it is...

Could it be jrh2002? This isn't meant to offend him, but I really didn't think he was 18... judging by how he types on the forum...

Oooh, am I on to something??
Can't be. Why would they give him 2 Hobba accounts?

2hd.
27-01-2005, 03:33 PM
must be budy :p ??

Ryan
27-01-2005, 03:40 PM
i didnt think jrh was 18 but obviously so :)

2hd.
27-01-2005, 03:46 PM
i spose an advantage of winning the habbo awards would be to ask for your hobba application to be fast-tracked *cough* david blunkett *cough*

Soyers
27-01-2005, 04:02 PM
i spose an advantage of winning the habbo awards would be to ask for your hobba application to be fast-tracked *cough* david blunkett *cough*

Rofl! Not a totally true connection but still funny :)
(By the by i didnt even think about how old Jrh2002 was until now)

BlackGarden
27-01-2005, 04:30 PM
This is a really pointless connection, especially when an inquiry found that David Blunkett had done nothing wrong regarding the infamous application.
Besides, it's well known that Habbo fast-track any applications with recommendations, and being on the Habbo Council could act as a recommendation.

2hd.
27-01-2005, 04:33 PM
honestly it was just a joke...

Evolution
27-01-2005, 06:54 PM
I think its Dbzone, he's underage and hes good friends with the staff.

Xaen
29-01-2005, 08:27 AM
I have to say I do agree with some your posts. Yet, If he is a experiment, Leave it at that, Yes I have figured it out for myself who it is. That name has been mentioned on this forum, I am not going to spread any rumours who I believe it is, But it is quite obvious.

Kier
29-01-2005, 11:49 AM
Right, well I have finally found Zycon and asked him about this rumour. He has denied everything, although I still believe he is under 18 he has said he isn't. So here we are:

He has said it is merely rumours.

Hanurr
29-01-2005, 12:09 PM
I saw him messing around in a guest room... he was apparently 'on duty' but he certainly wasn't acting that way.
A good few Hobbas are probably under 18; It's easy to fake being over 18, and that's that. :eusa_hand
Habbox Forum does not have many untrue rumours at all, by the way.

Hidcilll
29-01-2005, 12:12 PM
shh dont tell i am lol joke any wways he seems like a good hobba he wasnt playing around i think he really enjoys habbox so dont be mean to him

MissAlice
29-01-2005, 01:00 PM
Well I saw Zycon for the first time today. Very surprised to see a silver hobba sitting in HxHD. I understand silver hobbas can only use any powers they have in public rooms. Maybe he called in for help :p. After a while I was surprised he came back to the room to tell DJ-3000 that there were no helpers in the ultimate helper room. I wonder was that really necessary, surely DJ-3000 isn't on 24 hour call! So I went there to see what all the fuss was about. Much to my surprise he was there sitting alongside mysticalqueen another silver hobba. They were answering questions from habbos. One of the questions was the normal one - How do you become a hobba? Which in my opinion was correctly answered. Another question followed - Can you be a hobba if you have ever been banned? They answered clearly NO! This I believe is incorrect as you can apply if you have a small minor ban.

dadofdamatrix
29-01-2005, 02:05 PM
Hi,
Miss Alice what exactly is a minor ban?
dadofdamatrix

jrh2002
29-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Do you think you are funny posting stuff like this? big deal i rush some posts unless they are important and need to be perfect. I am over 18 and have been a good honest habbo now for many years.


Gar! I might know who it is...

Could it be jrh2002? This isn't meant to offend him, but I really didn't think he was 18... judging by how he types on the forum...

Oooh, am I on to something??

Jase
29-01-2005, 04:05 PM
Do you think you are funny posting stuff like this? big deal i rush some posts unless they are important and need to be perfect. I am over 18 and have been a good honest habbo now for many years.

can you say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*gives chill pill* we just wanna know if he is under 18 n who he is....

Butcher11
29-01-2005, 04:27 PM
I'm surpised you all thought Jrh was under 18, he is clearly mature by the way he types and acts on Habbo. And about Zycon, for those of us under 18, you should be hoping he does well, and maybe they'll lower the age limit again.

And about what Zcyon said calling Habbox Forum a magnet for untrue rumors, do you think he meant it to insult us?

SoraSafe
29-01-2005, 05:21 PM
Habbox is pretty infamous for rumours.

Jase
29-01-2005, 05:26 PM
good point buthcer some1 should ask him... *ding*

BlackGarden
29-01-2005, 05:38 PM
I'm surpised you all thought Jrh was under 18, he is clearly mature by the way he types and acts on Habbo. And about Zycon, for those of us under 18, you should be hoping he does well, and maybe they'll lower the age limit again.

And about what Zcyon said calling Habbox Forum a magnet for untrue rumors, do you think he meant it to insult us?
Thing is though, if it is true, as Rareoid said, that this is an experiment of GlitterKat's, then all it has served to prove is that the age limit at the moment is correct. Regardless of how old he is, I, and others, have seen Zycon abusing his powers.

Kieron - was that all he said about it? I've noticed he hasn't outright denied it in that screeny, just said that Habbox forums are "a magnet for untrue rumours". Did he actually say this specific one was untrue? If not, he's just dodged round it and IMPLIED that it's untrue.

Another question followed - Can you be a hobba if you have ever been banned? They answered clearly NO! This I believe is incorrect as you can apply if you have a small minor ban.
It depends entirely upon the context of the ban, and how long ago it was. If you have a ban for "harrassment" for example, then this is actually quite a wide-ranging description and can be misinterpreted, so the ban could in fact be invalid.
Also, I think if you have a minor ban for giving out your e-mail address, this is likely to be disregarded unless it was very recent.
If you have a minor ban for "avoiding the filter", this will be less kindly looked upon, but if you have a recommendation, or it was a long time ago, this will most likely be overlooked.
However, if you have a ban for having cyber in the Hotel, using explicit language, or even scamming people, this is not likely to be overlooked however long ago it was.

That's what I've gathered from some correspondance with Habbo re a recent ban and its affect on my Hobba application. In my case the ban was taken off my record, lifted, or whatever, because the log that was used to ban me was found to contain nothing suggesting that a ban was suitable.

By the by, just met Zycon in Welcome Lounge. Nice bloke, very understanding (to be frank I expected him to give me a grilling). He clearly denied the rumour. Not trying to corner you Rareoid but are you sure your posts were correct?
I still maintain that I saw him abusing his powers, though he does seem like a hell of a nice bloke. I'm sure I won't see him abusing his powers again. Pic attached.

BlackGarden
29-01-2005, 05:46 PM
Double posted by accident - please delete.

Arcanum
30-01-2005, 01:40 AM
Do you think you are funny posting stuff like this? big deal i rush some posts unless they are important and need to be perfect. I am over 18 and have been a good honest habbo now for many years.

can you say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jrh, I never said you were immature, and no, I was not trying to be funny. I was trying to express my opinion, and I meant no offence by it. I also, never said you were not honest, and I don't think you are. I was making a statement on things that I have seen, that is all

Sabre_1
30-01-2005, 03:23 AM
So if Zycon is under 18 and is abusing the privileges of the badge, who the hell on Habbo UK Staff is letting him do it? they need to be fired, thats an outrage! :@

Dazza17
30-01-2005, 03:28 AM
if he is under 18 then simple he shouldnt be a hobba :)

Sabre_1
30-01-2005, 04:02 AM
Sorry ive just read through all 123 posts of 125 and realised my last post was just stupid, so heres version 2.0 beta w/e...

HOBBA REPORT

After reading each and every post (including ones that were just petty arguments and snide remarks to one another) i believe that Zycon may be an experiment to see if the age limit on moderating and becoming a Hobba should be lowered. If the posts about Zycon abusing his powers are to be the truth, then it is clearly possible that the age limit will remain at 18+, as he has proved that under 18's cannot be responsible enough to weild a badge. In response to any further posts saying that they are far more mature, i think it highly unlikely that Glitterkat, nor any other Hobba would use an immature unruly Habbo as a test subject, as the results would be made before the experiment began.

But... if the experiment theory is untrue and he has become a Hobba through illicit means, then it is clear that one or more UK Staff may be responsible for 'fast tracking' or 'moving the goalposts' for certain people i.e. friends, family etc. If this theory is correct, then it is going to be one hell of a day for anti-Habbo enthusiasts, and one kick in the teeth for Habbo Hotel respect and presentation.

After seeing the Screenshots of Zycon, i believe that his denying the theories are 'brush-offs' as he has mainly boycotted the entire situation. I think that any good Hobba would have been on here in mere hours to put down any rumours arising about their position. Furthermore, i would expect another Hobba or Staff member to have at least posted here or done something about said rumours, before they escalated. Perhaps there are other Hobbas that are aware of the problem and dont wish to jeopardise their own positions...

There is much debate about Zycon and his Hobba powers, with many different views on what exactly is going on. But, if these theories were merely rumours, then shouldnt it have petered out long ago? To get over 100 posts in one single thread, surely there must be something not quite right about the whole situation. But, if any of this is true, then we may be only touching the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps if we dig hard enough into this, we may uncover more than just an underage Hobba scandal..............

Joe (Habbo: Sabre1)


NOTE TO SESSION: I am a neutral party to any or all of the above theories and dicussions. I am also neutral to any posts made by other users relating to Zycon or any material in direct connection to Zycon. I have no direct connections to any such theories, nor have i made any conclusions as to who Zycon is or what, if any, scandal he is involved in. Therefore i am in no way responsible for any rumours, theories or any direct results herein.

Personal Website (http://www,josephpettit.com)

Flava
30-01-2005, 09:32 AM
I don't see why it's so important.
For a start - Zycon has denied the claims.
Even if he is underage, its ONE EXCEPTION.

Being a hobba isn't everything you know - if you guys want to be a hobba this badly, you shouldn't be one really because it shows that you are actually "power mad" - If this happened back in the days when Ione was manager, we'd probably praise Zycon, congratulate him and wish him good luck.

2hd.
30-01-2005, 10:14 AM
If this happened back in the days when Ione was manager, we'd probably praise Zycon, congratulate him and wish him good luck.

Entirely true, yes ione didn't do events and yes Jibbi was a tiny bit stingy with furni but they kept Glitterkat and the other hobbas under their thumb
and stopped them from abusing powers soo much.

Rareoid
30-01-2005, 11:02 AM
Ok. Sick of all this ":o i don't think your right anymore." Zycon is being nice to people so people don't suspect. Heres the information - just wish i had a screenie of GK's message!

Zycon is dbzone. He was picked out of "randomness" according to Glitterkat. He has been told he's on a one month experiment, to see if GK's project works. I don't kno what the project is, but i'm guessing perhaps Mini Mois for 16-18 who will have limited powers. I f/r Zycon several times on day he became habbo. That same day DBZONE on his msn account asked a good friend why i was sending him loads of f/rs. Then when i did meet him, after a chat, i said "Bye Dave!". He quickly messaged me "dismissing his name was dave"

Next, everytime he sent me a message, he always put full stops in stupid places as if to try and change his writing. Plus, dbzone has been telling good friends he is to become a hobba soon, but no-one will know his name.

Finally, after i messaged him "Whats up dbzone?" he removed me off his Zycon account. Running from the truth.

Also, on the day Zycon became a hobba dbzone made his mission "Brb - for a whileeeeee"

So there you go. Thats information from Zycon, Glitterkat and his best mates.

I DID NOT WANT TO TELL YOU HIS NAME, as much as i hate him, its not fair, but i'm sick of all this, "Rares lying". I did ask Zycon who he was and he gave me some random habbo name like ytf but it hadn't been on in months. From what i can see, i believe hes dbzone. Only due to mission changing, the way he removed me and the fact hes been bragging hes becoming a hobba. Finally, dbzone is known to many staff as a boss due to Habbohut, so he would be an obvious choice for a project.

2hd.
30-01-2005, 11:08 AM
well done for investigating. I had my suspicions...

Rareoid
30-01-2005, 11:10 AM
Didn't especially need to investigate. He couldn't of not given away more if he tried.

I am 99.9% that its him, and several hobbas have told me that its him.

lil-rarez
30-01-2005, 11:21 AM
yeah DBzone i knew him once on my old account he was saying alot about he was goning to be a hobba but he was underage and apperently one he was he deleted everyone on the friend list of dbzone so it is true

BlackGarden
30-01-2005, 12:14 PM
Ok. Sick of all this ":o i don't think your right anymore."
I didn't mean to make you feel like I thought you were lying, but when Zycon denies the rumour to two people, it has to be given some extra thought. I just wanted to be sure your information was correct.

I don't understand why he won't just say "yes, it's true, I am underage, I am an 'experiment', but I don't want you to think any less of me as a Hobba because of that". It just doesn't make sense that he's so intent upon covering up. If after a month, he does not have a Hobba badge any more, then we will know it is true anyway, so why would he bother to lie? Is he really worried that people would take the mick or get annoyed? If he'd just told me what you said, Rareoid, I certainly wouldn't think any less of him, but perhaps that's what he's afraid of. As it is, I believe that he is lying, and that certainly does make me think less of him. If I turn out to be wrong, I'll put my hands up and say so, but right now I can only say what I think.

Azela
30-01-2005, 12:57 PM
Well, we have finally found out who it is then.

I don't understand why him though all he has done is managed to make a radio with Impetuous, Impetuous high posistion as led to many staff DJ's. Really he has done nothing 'special'

I feel DJ-3000 deserves it, more than him :p

Clo
30-01-2005, 02:06 PM
Yes but it's like saying that under 18's are immature! And in some cases it isnt true because im 14 and dont act like that. He May even be over 18 but just a childish person?

BlackGarden
30-01-2005, 02:11 PM
Yes but it's like saying that under 18's are immature! And in some cases it isnt true because im 14 and dont act like that. He May even be over 18 but just a childish person?
I'm sure I must have said something to that effect several times. Yes, there are people under 18 who are very mature, and yes, there are people over 18 who are very immature. However, by choosing only people who are over 18 to be Hobbas, Habbo Hotel are reducing the risk of hiring immature Hobbas.

Well, we have finally found out who it is then.

I don't understand why him though all he has done is managed to make a radio with Impetuous, Impetuous high posistion as led to many staff DJ's. Really he has done nothing 'special'

I feel DJ-3000 deserves it, more than him :p
I agree... but "randomness" as GlitterKat said, is probably the best way to have chosen someone... it's the only fair way really. It could simply be that his name was picked out of a hat, and unless someone can prove that he was chosen for a specific reason, I think I will believe that he was chosen completely randomly. What criteria they were using to get someone's name into the hat is another matter ;)

andrew
30-01-2005, 07:45 PM
I agree... but "randomness" as GlitterKat said, is probably the best way to have chosen someone... it's the only fair way really. It could simply be that his name was picked out of a hat, and unless someone can prove that he was chosen for a specific reason, I think I will believe that he was chosen completely randomly. What criteria they were using to get someone's name into the hat is another matter ;)

Well said, I agree with the whole hat thing. And yes, it will come down to being fair or not.

BlackGarden
30-01-2005, 09:43 PM
Being a hobba isn't everything you know - if you guys want to be a hobba this badly, you shouldn't be one really because it shows that you are actually "power mad" - If this happened back in the days when Ione was manager, we'd probably praise Zycon, congratulate him and wish him good luck.
I have to say I disagree. I can't speak for everyone in this thread, but I don't think that being a Hobba is everything. I enjoy helping people, and being a Hobba is just another way I can help. If I don't get my badge then I will not cry for three months, but will continue to help people in the ways I already can right now.

What is more important is if the rumour is true (which it seems at the moment it is) then Habbo Hotel are being very secretive about the truth, and the truth itself is rather unfair (unless dbzone really was chosen at random from all Habbos age 16-17, which is impossible as Habbo Hotel would not know how many of these people would want to be Hobbas).

It is immaterial who is Hotel Manager as this is something the Head Hobba has arranged. Besides which, I prefer Callie to Ione, and GlitterKat to Becs, so my reaction is entirely irrespective of who is HM and who is HH.

Rareoid
01-02-2005, 04:48 PM
Interview going out tonight on Habbox with Zycon, hes just told me.

Kardan
01-02-2005, 04:50 PM
:o this 'll be intresting i don't really care how old he is or who he is.

Azela
01-02-2005, 04:54 PM
I'll look forward too it :p

Maybe the truth will be revealed!

Rarelime
01-02-2005, 05:13 PM
Does his age really matter? the fact is he is a hobba and therefore he is 18 and over. If he isnt over 18 then habbo have made yet another mistake by hiring him.

Kardan
01-02-2005, 05:14 PM
I think half of the debate is why they hired him?

Personally i don't care as long as it's one hobba that dosen't abuse tools and helps out then that's fine.

TehJoshy
01-02-2005, 05:39 PM
Personally i think we shouldn't judge i mean yes being silver is exciting but i wouldn't know i'm not a hobba!!

In Some ways people have got reason to quote that he is under age and he proberly is but untill then we will have to judge if we would trust him to stop scammers and help us habbos in need!

Also If He wasn't 18 then the habbo safety system could get questioned on there requirements!!

Joshy1029 :eusa_shif

Rarelime
01-02-2005, 05:45 PM
As josh said, what proof do you have of him being underage? ;)

Rareoid
01-02-2005, 05:48 PM
Hes 16/17. Defo not 18. He told me on his old account.

Kier
01-02-2005, 06:05 PM
Ok everyone. I interviewed Zycon for Habbox (Now on interviews page) so you can see what he has to say about all the rumours.

BlackGarden
01-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Great interview. I'm beginning to suspect that he was picked from all applicants who applied at the same time I did - just before the age changed - and who are still under 18. For all I know, it could just as easily have been me. Him being underage doesn't imply him having become a Hobba via a "back door" rather than through the normal method though... I still think he's under 18 but I'm beginning to think that he was picked far more fairly than I originally thought.

beenybenny
02-02-2005, 06:44 PM
I think what the Habbo Staff have done here is use whoever it is as a test. They've obviously had no other reason for it. They've not made the guy behind Zycon a hobba because he's one exception of the age criteria. Or because they liked him. Lets hope something good comes out of this 'test'

Asher
02-02-2005, 11:22 PM
Ok.
Here is what I've heard, and what I believe.
Why do I believe? because I have heard them from a source I trust.
Zycon is UNDERAGED.
Zycon is a TEST Hobba

I noticed the rumour about him being a well known DJ has not
come up yet. Oh, and this I know is true.

BlackGarden
03-02-2005, 04:46 PM
Wow people I know posting in the thread :) Hi guys.

That's pretty much the conclusion I'd come to. Even if you disagree with what I'm saying, you have to admit that he is being just a liiiittle bit cagey here (probably because he isn't allowed to reveal much).

Now to the interesting bit. He admitted in the interview with Kieron that he was a test Hobba. Fair enough. But I really cannot think of anything else Habbo would want to "test" other than the age criteria. He can deny the "rumours" until he's blue in the face but he has never ever said "actually, no, I am not under 18", he has just said "the rumours are not true". He could be referring to rumours that he was not picked randomly, rumours that he was picked because staff liked him (if Rareoid is correct about his identity, I can see how those rumours may have started), rumours that he abused his powers (I still say I know what I saw but if there's no evidence for it then I guess I could have been mistaken) and rumours that he never had to apply. Don't take it as written that he has denied rumours that he is under 18, as he was extremely careful about how he phrased things when asked about it.

Aeo.
04-02-2005, 12:25 PM
Ok, heres the low down on this.

This hobba is NOT 18. He is an "experiment" of Glitterkat's, and will be a hobba for a month. There many rumours of who Zycon is, and i now know but i will not say as it is private.

Thanks.

You say this BUT why in the habbox interview does he say see you in 30 days? huh?
Answer me that

l-lelper
04-02-2005, 06:39 PM
It could be true - it might not be. Maybe that's just the way BlackGarden is. We don't really have proof that he/she is under 18, do we? And anyway, I don't think she would've become a Hobba if she was under 18. Habbo can find out.

BlackGarden
04-02-2005, 07:26 PM
It could be true - it might not be. Maybe that's just the way BlackGarden is. We don't really have proof that he/she is under 18, do we? And anyway, I don't think she would've become a Hobba if she was under 18. Habbo can find out.
Just the way I am? I've repeatedly stated that this is just a rumour, but it's one that had been spreading round the hotel like wildfire before I even posted.
Have you even read the whole thread? There is substancial evidence to suggest that this could be true, and in his interview (with Kieron - best news reporter ever) Zycon was very VERY cagey and careful about how he phrased things. He left things as open ended as possible.
And it's he... or at least his Habbo is.

Asher
04-02-2005, 08:38 PM
to be deleted.

properclone
04-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Probably DbZone or whatever that guys name is...

andrew
04-02-2005, 09:54 PM
Probably DbZone or whatever that guys name is...

Yeah.. I'm pretty sure it's Dave (Dbzone). He can sure act immature at times :eusa_shhh

platinum101
06-02-2005, 01:40 AM
Maybe hes just a bit imature?
Maybe he just likes having fun?
Im sure he wouldnt be under 18 because when you apply to be a hobba you have to do all sorts of things to prove that you are of the age of 18.
Plus Habbo staff cant make people hobbas even if they wanted to.

andrew
06-02-2005, 01:47 AM
Maybe hes just a bit imature?
Maybe he just likes having fun?
Im sure he wouldnt be under 18 because when you apply to be a hobba you have to do all sorts of things to prove that you are of the age of 18.
Plus Habbo staff cant make people hobbas even if they wanted to.

Actually, most of us are pretty sure he is indeed under the age of 18. He is supposedly a test for Habbo.

hellzfrost
06-02-2005, 08:39 AM
I herad rumors that you have to send your passport to Habbo so they make sure that you are over 18 as one of the stages of becoming a Hobba. But anyway I think he's under 18...

Escalabar
06-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Bloomin' heck, what an amazing subject this has been. Not seen one like it!
I am not really sure what to belive... Why would Rareoid lie? But then again... Why would Zycon deny it unless he has been told to keep it hush by GK.

Oh it's all confusing... but the truth is out there...

Can I just say that I think "BlackGarden" has been posting amazing stuff... very factual and interesting. Why can't we all be more like her?

:)

Dill
06-02-2005, 10:15 PM
If he joined the hobba team earlier he may join back at anytime.

BlackGarden
06-02-2005, 10:24 PM
Bloomin' heck, what an amazing subject this has been. Not seen one like it!
I am not really sure what to belive... Why would Rareoid lie? But then again... Why would Zycon deny it unless he has been told to keep it hush by GK.

Oh it's all confusing... but the truth is out there...

Can I just say that I think "BlackGarden" has been posting amazing stuff... very factual and interesting. Why can't we all be more like her?

:)
Yes, here's the 20 pounds I promised you for posting that.

Seriously though, I'm in pretty much the same position as you. I dare say it'll all be revealed in time... exciting stuff.

caz08
06-02-2005, 11:39 PM
There is an interview with him on the habbox homepage. Maybe you should read it

Escalabar
07-02-2005, 12:04 AM
Yes, here's the 20 pounds I promised you for posting that.


I thought we agreed £30!! ;)

BlackGarden
07-02-2005, 04:01 PM
There is an interview with him on the habbox homepage. Maybe you should read it
I have read the interview, and I refer to it in a few posts only a page or so back. In short, I thought that he had planned what he said in the interview very carefully, in order to neither specifically confirm nor deny that he was under 18.

I thought we agreed £30!! ;)
I'll give you £25 and that's final.

Escalabar
07-02-2005, 04:03 PM
I'll give you £25 and that's final.

Ok done :)

Seacat
07-02-2005, 04:40 PM
Yeah the interview is good!
Read that ;) Habbox (http://www.habbox.com)

Sabre_1
07-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Zycon is now a GOLD hobba, so lets just put this rumour to bed now.........

BlackGarden
08-02-2005, 11:17 AM
Zycon is now a GOLD hobba, so lets just put this rumour to bed now.........
It doesn't discount the rumour completely, just some of Rareoid's information. There is still and awful lot of fishy stuff going on here, especially that certain Hobbas are saying the rumours are true.

dobzy
15-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Sorry for digging out an old topic, but I thought I'd back up BlackGardens points. As you may or may not know, when Habbo Hotel first started out the Hobba Age limits were indeed aged 14; this within a few months increased to aged 16 - probably because of the growth of the website, and the amount of responsibilities Hobba's were gaining. Now, it's 18 years - becausen younger users should be concentrating on school work, family, and life, rather than Habbo and responsibilities of being a volunteer Moderator.

I believe, the fact when Habbo first started the age limits were incredibly low, prove that there actually isn't any limit on the age which a volunteer moderator has to be in the United Kingdom; Habbo just personally imply these rules, to think about their users safety, the ease of Parents, and generally the safety of there website.

So - if Habbo wish to "hire" an underage Hobba, for any reason, I doubt they can be criticised for breaking any form of law, but rather, their own rules. Which, obviously the company can change at any time, for whatever reason.

Another thing, rather than becoming increasingly stressed, angered, and bitter about this subject, IF Zycon is a test or experiment on behalf of GlitterKat, for any reason, I'd personally think of the positives that may come out of it.

Common knowledge suggests, that if Zycon is a test or experiment concerning the age limits of being a Hobba, then GlitterKat would have to repeat the same type of experiment with many, many, other people, as just "testing" one person, and basing your decision on that one person really isn't logical.

ramjet
16-02-2005, 12:04 PM
im pretty sure he is but hes only temporary i believe

Rareoid
16-02-2005, 11:36 PM
Ok. Sick of all this ":o i don't think your right anymore." Zycon is being nice to people so people don't suspect. Heres the information - just wish i had a screenie of GK's message!

Zycon is dbzone.

4 pages later...


Probably DbZone or whatever that guys name is...

rofl :P

anyway, dobzy makes good points. Habbo have not broken any laws by giving dbzone a badge, I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT, all i have done is simply told the people what Glitterkat told me. :)

Escalabar
18-02-2005, 04:34 AM
all i have done is simply told the people what Glitterkat told me. :)

Not meaning to cause a fight, but if Glitterkat new you were broardcasting infomation she had told you, do you think she would be pleased? If I was in your position I would have kept all that infomation to myself and not posted it on a Forum :(

If she did tell you that Dbzone is Zycon or whatever it is you are saying, then why would you want to let the Habbo public know about it? Wouldn't she have told you in confidence?

CoolMichael22
20-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Black gardner its not as if ur gonna solve it all on ur own aint ya lol

Phila
20-02-2005, 02:53 PM
What rareoid said is true. I think there is some sort of 'experiment' going on where one underage user gets the chance to go on 'probation' for a month or so. Looks like the staff have contradicted themsleves by saying for a good few years now, and i quote... 'Under no circumstances will any users under the age of 18 (16 back then) be allowed to become a hobba'.

The people chosen each month by the staff will no doubt be the ones they have picked, not the ones who deserve it. Unfortunately it's all about who you know and not what you know. Sorry to dissapoint, but it's the truth.

EDIT - Changed, as requested

Escalabar
20-02-2005, 03:12 PM
What rareoid said is true. I think there is some sort of 'experiment' going on where one underage user gets the chance to go on 'probation' for a month or so. Looks like the staff have contradicted themsleves by saying for a good few years now, and i quote... 'Under no circumstances will any users under the age of 18 (16 back then) be allowed to become a hobba'.

The people chosen each month by the staff will no doubt be the ones they have picked, not the ones who deserve it. Unfortunately it's all about who you know and not what you know. Sorry to dissapoint, but it's the truth.

But anyway... looks like butt-kissing sulake staff does get you somewhere in life. (Opps, did i just say that out loud?)

haha, go you!

Kardan
20-02-2005, 03:14 PM
haha, go you!


Phila is a hobba

Plus reading the posts earlier i think it's all just a tangled web.

I don't really care who the hobbas are as long as they do a good job :) Even if it is a 9 year old child *Looks at Dionysus*

Demi
20-02-2005, 05:50 PM
as someone said above the age limits to be a hobba have gone from 16 to 18
so that might be why
and maybe the hobba might want a joke or sumot

BlackGarden
21-02-2005, 07:03 PM
What rareoid said is true. I think there is some sort of 'experiment' going on where one underage user gets the chance to go on 'probation' for a month or so. Looks like the staff have contradicted themsleves by saying for a good few years now, and i quote... 'Under no circumstances will any users under the age of 18 (16 back then) be allowed to become a hobba'.

The people chosen each month by the staff will no doubt be the ones they have picked, not the ones who deserve it. Unfortunately it's all about who you know and not what you know. Sorry to dissapoint, but it's the truth.

EDIT - Changed, as requested
Wow I go away for a week and this thread is still alive.
I totally agree with everything you've said there Phila. If this is true, then myself, many of my friends, and other Habbos under 18 who applied to be Hobbas at the same time as us, have been the victims of some serious double-standards. Fortunately, the 18th birthdays of all people affected by the age change are within the next year (if they haven't passed already), and mine's getting really close now :)

Butcher11
21-02-2005, 08:47 PM
The system is rigged lol, pretty obvious the staff don't care about broken rules if it's for their mates.

BlackGarden
21-02-2005, 09:01 PM
The system is rigged lol, pretty obvious the staff don't care about broken rules if it's for their mates.
Well they're their own rules and legally they have every right to break them and bend them as they please (read the Terms and Conditions and so forth). Morally this sort of thing really isn't right. Even if this particular rumour is not true, there are many things that have happened recently that suggest that staff favour their friends.

Luayminator
25-02-2005, 10:24 AM
I think habbo is getting cooler and badly managed at the same time :D

Hippygurl101
25-02-2005, 06:26 PM
Wow, This thread is mightly long.
There are alot of interesting points in here. I for some reaspon think I heard like a couple of weeks ago something about a possible introduction of younger hobbas back on co.uk (Althou this could be untrue) but it may have resulted from the succesfulness of the hobbas on the us and they felt that reinstating them would help.
Its only slightly annoying if this happens, as I was about to apply when I was over 16 but then the rules changed and I had to hold on to my 18th Bday when I applied.. If had had to wait that year odd for nothing.. well. It will worth it in the end.
Curious though they keep denying it, I mean youve pretty much solved it now.
Ah well all I can say is good luck Zycon, because if whatever he does goes well maybe it will mean some changes around the hotel for the better.

BTw I just met Zycon, and in the meeting he muted a girl becasue she was talking too much.. and banned 2 habbos in the room. While also kicking the whole room out tot lock the door of snews. I got up 'You have been removed for breaking the habbo way - snews is closed'. I mean come on? Using a pop up for anothe rpurpose. Who knos if tht wont go on my record, for doing Nothing at all.

dbzone
06-03-2005, 08:25 PM
lmao the us hotel hobba system is a sham, they will never bring that to the uk, i think glitterkat would kill herself before doing that (and becs lmao).

Hobba ages arnt going down, unfortunatly.

Sabu
12-07-2005, 03:19 PM
I would like to point out that I would never have believed that Habbo would allow someone under 18 to become a Hobba but this situation really does have something fishy about it.

If it was just that he didn't want to give out personal details then he'd say so... it's the fact that he's running away that makes me suspicious. Besides, I don't think many Hobbas are exactly cagey about the fact that they're over 18 because that's part of the criteria.
EDIT: Also I'd like to add that if Habbo staff thought he was so great and wanted to make him a Hobba despite him being underage, do you think they'll believe reports of him abusing his powers?
If ANYONE sees Zycon (or any other Hobba for that matter but this thread is about Zycon) abusing his powers they should take a screenshot if they can, and report the matter to Habbo immediately via the Habbo website (help and safety>contact us). The only way Habbo will believe Zycon is abusing his powers is if enough people report him with supporting evidence.

Well if hes a Hobbo, it's possible that he has to go help someone?

You
12-07-2005, 03:30 PM
There are LOADS of Hobbas under eighteen, It's obvious, Such as Geglash, Zycon, and someothers ;)

Y!
12-07-2005, 03:31 PM
if hes under the age of 18 and abusing commands he wont pass to become gold that simple
Agreed!

Matty
12-07-2005, 03:32 PM
This thread was made years ago, why bring it back?
[Not literally]

Rawr
12-07-2005, 03:35 PM
So what we could do with lowering to stupid hobba age of 18 to 16 so then habbo might actully get some workers :D

You
12-07-2005, 03:37 PM
XD I had a n00b name AGES ago, called Mark.o.o. or something, and i applied to become a Hobba- I had my real age on my name and i passed, The only thing that stopped me, was that backthen they asked for a picture :(

:....:mike:....:
15-07-2005, 03:52 PM
XD I had a n00b name AGES ago, called Mark.o.o. or something, and i applied to become a Hobba- I had my real age on my name and i passed, The only thing that stopped me, was that backthen they asked for a picture :(
Absolutely true! you needed a picture to show that you are a legal age. If you wanted to become a moderator, its the same process, you need a picture and experiences.

Bear-Max
15-07-2005, 04:57 PM
This topic is a bit irrelevant now... Zycon has long left the Hobba team.

:....:mike:....:
15-07-2005, 05:44 PM
This topic is a bit irrelevant now... Zycon has long left the Hobba team.
I guess their plan has failed :d

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