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Kasabian
03-06-2006, 06:56 PM
Hello.
Before you start making out that I am posting this because I was fired, This is not the case.
I'm sure i won't be the only one, But in my opinion, Habbox is well, Being pathetic. I mean come on, Staff fired nearly every hour, People being banned. Brandon was banned for putting "Hiet Smells", I mean come on? How sad, Have you seen Eckuii's sig? Nvrspk4 has put "Adi smell's" has anything happened? No. Also, Mods/Smods/Admins messing around with usernotes, Signatures,Profiles and numerous other things. I mean, Usernotes are there for a reason, Not to mess around with. Signatures are something someone has done, Then an admin/smod leave's something in there, You could atleast ask them to remove it before putting "Edited by [Username](Job): Don't have an image bigger than 700x150 in your sig", I mean, Atleast give them a chance. Also, I have personally noticed staff swearing,Spamming and other such things, But i won't name any names. Also, If your ever going to be an official fansite(Which probably won't happen because of the past), Then i advise you lighten up. I mean, Sure, You should be strict, But not this strict.
So that's what i personally think, And knowing this, I'll get banned.
But it's what i feel and believe.
Stealth.
MattUH
03-06-2006, 06:58 PM
i dont think habbox is strict enough.
England
03-06-2006, 06:58 PM
and until I got it reduced the ban was PERM LMAO But then it got reduced
to 3 days. And on my level-up account I had a huge sig all they had
to do was remove it like they do but they just banned me instead,
and that was perm too till I got it lowered, it's stupid.
Okay this is going to be an unbiased reply (i hope)
You made the comment that some staff spam and swear, we are aware of this and this can sometimes be the contributing reason as to why people get fired every hour. But even still your comment about staff being fired is a bit unfair, as there is no real set schedule when staff can be removed from a team so it can essentially be whenever.
The forum moderators do PM most users about the signature images however forum SM and Admins tend to go for the straight removal as frankly its easier for us to do that as oppose to PM'ing many users and awaiting a reply before we take action.
Also members are fully aware of the limitations of signature images so why do they feel the need to break the rule? However I do feel that if Admins and SM do have the time to spare it would be better etiquette to message the users first.
Sometimes the permanent bans are a mistake because the default setting on bans on this board is permanent so when we quickly try and ban a user we do make mistakes. But we do ban users if they fail to heed warnings, if we look at your user notes and you have repeatedly been warned for breaking such rule we will ban you for it.
Oh and also I now deal with the contact emails as of today so there is really no reason for there to be a lack of reply about any issues including bans. Give me about 24 hours.
On a final note, I like englands signature image xD
JackHb
03-06-2006, 07:15 PM
Why should Admins have to PM you to use the correct size signature? When you join up to this forum you should check over the rules.
By PM'ing you they would then have to check your profile again in a few days, this all takes time, its much simpler and more effective if they just remove it.
If you see staff swearing then report it to 8Freak8 or Sierk or their manager, i think most people on the forum know to do that, you can't expect admins to check every staff members posts.
And i don't think Habbox is really bothered about being official or not, you didn't see Habbox make a big thing out of the last nominations did you.
And i don't think Habbox is really bothered about being official or not, you didn't see Habbox make a big thing out of the last nominations did you.
Too true that. Aslong as we have a running site and many members that appreciate it I frankly couldnt give a krispy kreme doughnut (mhhmm Krispy Kreme doughnut)
Infrontation
03-06-2006, 07:17 PM
i dont think habbox is strict enough.
Tell me how habbox could make it any stricter.. You visit any other forum they don't have set of rules as big as habbox's.
If you express your opinion you generally get banned if it is something against habbox. The moderating is as strict as any other habbo fansite I have seen. Habbox is like a dictatorship with secret police. If you speak out against the dictator (habbox) you get imprisoned (banned). That is the one rule I hate the most, well its probably the only rule I don't agree on. Other fansites take on comments and critisism and try and improve on what people have said not give them permenant bans. The usernote thing is a total shambles. If you are a moderator you can just delete your own usernotes, then if your fired perhaps you don't have any usernotes when previously you may have only been one away from being banned for too many usernotes against your name.
Lukeh
03-06-2006, 07:20 PM
I agree in some respects and however dont in others.
IMO the moderation system is a sham.
Too many mods, unprofessional. The moderation system needs an uphall. Less mods, get rid of the crap ones, and give the better ones the power to ban.
Its just warning after warning for all offences, the minor ones shouldnt even be warned for, yet for serious offenses i see people going by with just a warning.
And the admins go around banning for any little stupid thing, such as having an opinion?
You need to find the balance
Just my two cents, nothing personal :)
Oh and in a related note, ADMINS NEED TO ANSWER THE 'CONTACT US' FORM, whats the point of having it if youre not going to answer it?
For the love of christ..
MattUH
03-06-2006, 07:21 PM
Tell me how habbox could make it any stricter.. You visit any other forum they don't have set of rules as big as habbox's.
If you express your opinion you generally get banned if it is something against habbox. The moderating is as strict as any other habbo fansite I have seen. Habbox is like a dictatorship with secret police. If you speak out against the dictator (habbox) you get imprisoned (banned). That is the one rule I hate the most, well its probably the only rule I don't agree on. Other fansites take on comments and critisism and try and improve on what people have said not give them permenant bans. The usernote thing is a total shambles. If you are a moderator you can just delete your own usernotes, then if your fired perhaps you don't have any usernotes when previously you may have only been one away from being banned for too many usernotes against your name.
Alot of people get away with sigs still, spamming, swearing, rude, posting in wrong places, breaking rules.
:)
Also, I have personally noticed staff swearing,Spamming and other such things, But i won't name any names. Also, If your ever going to be an official fansite(Which probably won't happen because of the past), Then i advise you lighten up. I mean, Sure, You should be strict, But not this strict.
Staff swearing was addressed in the staff forum about 1 hour ago ;)
MattUH
03-06-2006, 07:24 PM
at last.!
--ss--
03-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Tell me how habbox could make it any stricter.. You visit any other forum they don't have set of rules as big as habbox's.
If you express your opinion you generally get banned if it is something against habbox. The moderating is as strict as any other habbo fansite I have seen. Habbox is like a dictatorship with secret police. If you speak out against the dictator (habbox) you get imprisoned (banned). That is the one rule I hate the most, well its probably the only rule I don't agree on. Other fansites take on comments and critisism and try and improve on what people have said not give them permenant bans. The usernote thing is a total shambles. If you are a moderator you can just delete your own usernotes, then if your fired perhaps you don't have any usernotes when previously you may have only been one away from being banned for too many usernotes against your name.
lmao but that sounded like you meant it in a bad way 'dissging' habbox :rolleyes:
well its not actually habbox its certain members , yes i agree an sig image shouldnt be removed like that but habbox get around 300 unique members visting they cant pm everyone telling them about a sig , if your sig is a few pixels big well i think the mods should ignore it as in most cases its a mistake but if its an huge sig they deserve a ban as they should know . ( i dont know how big level-ups sig was but for it to a perm it must have been big :s )
also habbox / sierk & managers werent actualy botherd about geting un officialised (hardly any one checks the official lists any way :P )
MattUH
03-06-2006, 07:33 PM
Thats true i hardly visit fansite list.
Adam$
03-06-2006, 07:35 PM
I personally don't care if this became an official fansite, bearing in mind I don't care for Habbo whatsoever. I personally would rather have the option to swear if I wanted to, and post my own picture and email, than having the URL of Habbox on some teen chat program.
--ss--
03-06-2006, 07:36 PM
Thats true i hardly visit fansite list.
+ msot of the sites on the list are down and some are quite good sites but are way less popular than habbox and barely get any hits ,also on forighn hotel wth on one hotel they have a 100% freewebs site editor site also on .ca there is a a freewebs site witch isnt that bad BUT it doesnt have any staff other than her sister and has full pictures of her all around the site + linking to piczo sites ect :rolleyes:
MattUH
03-06-2006, 07:37 PM
we know, who cares now tho. ;l
Kasabian
03-06-2006, 07:38 PM
I personally don't care if this became an official fansite, bearing in mind I don't care for Habbo whatsoever. I personally would rather have the option to swear if I wanted to, and post my own picture and email, than having the URL of Habbox on some teen chat program.
Agreed, & The MSN option.
--ss--
03-06-2006, 07:41 PM
Agreed, & The MSN option.
also agreed but it wouldnt get much hits ect
8Freak8
03-06-2006, 07:41 PM
Tell me how habbox could make it any stricter.. You visit any other forum they don't have set of rules as big as habbox's.
If you express your opinion you generally get banned if it is something against habbox. The moderating is as strict as any other habbo fansite I have seen. Habbox is like a dictatorship with secret police. If you speak out against the dictator (habbox) you get imprisoned (banned). That is the one rule I hate the most, well its probably the only rule I don't agree on. Other fansites take on comments and critisism and try and improve on what people have said not give them permenant bans. The usernote thing is a total shambles. If you are a moderator you can just delete your own usernotes, then if your fired perhaps you don't have any usernotes when previously you may have only been one away from being banned for too many usernotes against your name.
Users will not be banned for expressing their opinion. Link me to an example.
Adam$
03-06-2006, 07:50 PM
also agreed but it wouldnt get much hits ect
Who cares, it's not on the fansite list now, yet it still gets tons of nhits. And lets face it, what teenager doesn't swear regularly, and what 11 year old hasn't heard every common swear? :p
--ss--
03-06-2006, 07:53 PM
Who cares, it's not on the fansite list now, yet it still gets tons of nhits. And lets face it, what teenager doesn't swear regularly, and what 11 year old hasn't heard every common swear? :p
lmao urmm prince charles :rolleyes:
but yep becuase this is habbox we will always get high hits :P
but if a brand new site opens urmm i dont think it has a chance ;)
England
03-06-2006, 07:55 PM
lmao urmm prince charles :rolleyes:
Since when did Charles become a teen. :rolleyes: lol. :P
MattUH
03-06-2006, 07:55 PM
if habbox ever closed i wonder which site would become the new habbox...
iluvben
03-06-2006, 08:04 PM
I know what you mean , I got banned for saying to chilloutrich go bum yourself and with my sparkling record , it was a perm btw an I never had been banned or cautioned before that.
Kasabian
03-06-2006, 08:05 PM
if habbox ever closed i wonder which site would become the new habbox...
I wouldn't care about the "next" habbox.
Infrontation
03-06-2006, 08:48 PM
I wouldn't care about the "next" habbox.
Indeed I'd just keep gaming <3 Also Mr.Freak I can remember a lot of people in the past that have claimed they where banned for their opinions. Probably just lower staff and normal users haven't got the full side of the story.
P@ND@ what was he banned for then :o
MattUH
03-06-2006, 08:50 PM
Indeed I'd just keep gaming <3 Also Mr.Freak I can remember a lot of people in the past that have claimed they where banned for their opinions. Probably just lower staff and normal users haven't got the full side of the story.
P@ND@ what was he banned for then :o
P@ND@ and i was very good friends when i was on Anti-Pod / iPodi.
Him 'n i was banned for more reasons then you cannot see, the posts/topcis in which we was banned for are removed by Sierk himself. :$
Just look in Anti-Pod 's sig, it explains some of it there.
Grindie
03-06-2006, 09:23 PM
I was actually PM'd nicely by Ymo when I had 2 images in my sig when I wasn't VIP, but you're entitled to your opinion ;]
Oh and in a related note, ADMINS NEED TO ANSWER THE 'CONTACT US' FORM, whats the point of having it if youre not going to answer it?
For the love of christ..
It is being answered and now I am doing them I am answering them all.
Prince charles must have been 11 once unless he came out like that how painful... o.O
One thing I have learned being an Habbox Admin is that many people claim "OMG I GOT BANNED FOR MY OPINION ON HABBOX!?!?!?" but they havent actually been banned for their opinion they were banned for the WAY they put their opinion forward. Recently got an email about this today by another banned user.
Seatherny
04-06-2006, 06:47 AM
I have NEVER seen a member who has been banned with the reason "Banned for expressing your opinion". SM's and Admins can't ban for that. They have strict guidelines for when to ban.
So if someones goes "LYKE OMGZZZZ I GOT BANNED FOR SAYINGZ HABBOX IS CRAPZ" ask them to check their ban reason first.
sierk1
06-06-2006, 01:29 PM
I have explained this before, it should be in a stickie somewhere. You can NEVER be banned for expressing your opinion, only fired when you are Habbox staff and you don't do it in the proper way.
I am very strict with that, the only way a Habbox staff member is allowed to criticise some part of Habbox is by sending a private message to a Manager in charge. I don't like this rule either, but I have no choice. The reason is that at Habbox there work a lot of (not always very mature) kids, which is normal as it is about Habbo, which is a teens website. When I would allow staff to criticise each other publicly, there would be huge arguments and fights between staff members. As soon as a moderator would post for example that he doesn't agree with how the Help Desk is run, HxHD staff would be offendend and start complaining about the moderation system, in stead of listening to the complaint and trying to learn from it in a mature way.
The only way to avoid these fights between staff members is to not allow them to criticise other parts of Habbox publicly. This is not necessary anyway, it's often more effective to send your complaint in a private message to a manager, or even to 8Freak8 or me then we will listen to it and if necessary do something with it.
joshuar
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
The thing is, Habbox is a big place, as you know, look at the stats at the bottom of the forum. Now our aim is to try and make you all happy and want to use Habbox, if your a habbo user, we have Rare Values, Habbo News etc. If you like a website to be on in which you can chat to other members, then we have provided many forums for you in which to use.
Thing is, in order for both sides to get on we need rules, without rules in real life then I am pretty sure everything will be on fire, everyone would be being robbed. Rules aren't there to control you and turn you into droids, rules keep the peace. Break the rules and you face the concenquences that follow.
We, being the Habbox team, don't want you being harrassed while your online, this is why we don't allow things like MSN addresses to be given out, and for you to post your picture. If someone found you by the details you had given on this community and the pictures and the location details on where you live, then you were killed, who would be to blame? Habbox would be if the police found your details on here.
Just think, somewhere out there, you have forums in which you can do that. If you can't post without swearing then I think you have a problem, I will admit, yes I do swear, I swear on my MSN and in real life with my mates, when I am in an environment in which I cannot swear then I simply won't. It's not very hard.
I think that covered a lot of ground really, without offending anyone hopefully, but thats what I see and think when I see posts like this one.
paradox
06-06-2006, 03:52 PM
I was actually PM'd nicely by Ymo when I had 2 images in my sig when I wasn't VIP, but you're entitled to your opinion ;]
Yes thats because Ymo is cool. :)
Kasabian
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
So Sierk, Your saying if you had your way, No one be allowed to complain about habbox?
What alot of utter ********. That's how stuck up you are.
micky.blue.eyes
06-06-2006, 05:09 PM
First some comments in general. Many of you complain you can't express your opinion and feelings here, but I don't see anybody leaving, if you don't like it here, why don't you just leave and have fun on the other forums?
If you see staff swearing, spamming or breaking any other rule, report them, if you let them be they will never get fired and keep breaking rules. This way you can help to create a 'better' habbox.
I also haven't seen any people getting banned for expressing their opinions, as long as they kept it clean, you can express your opinions in many ways, some people unfortunatly break rules when they express their opinions and that is what gets them banned.
I'm a moderator and I've seen many people with too many or too large images in their signature. I have always pm'ed them before I reported them to a super mod, all those people have removed their image(s) and were (sometimes surprisingly) nice to me because I warned them.
You complain many staff members are getting fired every hour, but you also complain staff members aren't fired even when they break the rules. I think a lot of staff is getting fired because they break the rules, but you can't expect them to be fired straight away, if you report them they might get fired sooner so better people can be hired.
One last thing, there are over 18000 accounts on this forum, you don't think we check every account to see if we see somebody with a large signature image, if you'd report them you would make our job a lot easier. ;)
Now some comments on what people have said.
Too many mods, unprofessional. The moderation system needs an uphall. Less mods, get rid of the crap ones, and give the better ones the power to ban.
I don't think giving more people the power to ban would solve the problem, I think a lot more people would be banned. Also, if a lot of moderators would be fired, most forums will become a big mess and unhandable.
Also members are fully aware of the limitations of signature images so why do they feel the need to break the rule? However I do feel that if Admins and SM do have the time to spare it would be better etiquette to message the users first.
So true, even though I don't think all members have read the rules if you look at the amount of people with signatures breaking the rules. :)
lmao urmm prince charles :rolleyes:
:O He did! He called me something bad!
Hope it's all clear, I sometimes type too much lol. :P
Moose
06-06-2006, 05:16 PM
Hello.
Before you start making out that I am posting this because I was fired, This is not the case.
I'm sure i won't be the only one, But in my opinion, Habbox is well, Being pathetic. I mean come on, Staff fired nearly every hour, People being banned. Brandon was banned for putting "Hiet Smells", I mean come on? How sad, Have you seen Eckuii's sig? Nvrspk4 has put "Adi smell's" has anything happened? No. Also, Mods/Smods/Admins messing around with usernotes, Signatures,Profiles and numerous other things. I mean, Usernotes are there for a reason, Not to mess around with. Signatures are something someone has done, Then an admin/smod leave's something in there, You could atleast ask them to remove it before putting "Edited by [Username](Job): Don't have an image bigger than 700x150 in your sig", I mean, Atleast give them a chance. Also, I have personally noticed staff swearing,Spamming and other such things, But i won't name any names. Also, If your ever going to be an official fansite(Which probably won't happen because of the past), Then i advise you lighten up. I mean, Sure, You should be strict, But not this strict.
So that's what i personally think, And knowing this, I'll get banned.
But it's what i feel and believe.
Stealth.
Thats Habbox for you! --
Getting banned for voicing your opinion!
Yes, this forum is corrupt in some but not many ways. Also the system where people get chosen to be moderators is really bad. They basically give it to anyone new or their friends unlike how they done it in the past. Where they asked people who were doing well on the forum, who shown maturity - knowledge - and self control. Yes and I do see how the "staff" are abusing the powers of this forum to better suit themselfs and not the others.
JackHb
06-06-2006, 07:15 PM
So Sierk, Your saying if you had your way, No one be allowed to complain about habbox?
What alot of utter ********. That's how stuck up you are.
No you idiot read his thread, he says he does not ban people for giving opinions, unless they give an opinion in a rude way.
He then says if a staff member has a complaint with something they should PM there manager not make a post about it otherwise the people of that job will then gang up on what jobs he/she does and critize them.
See you can't even discuss something without swearing and calling Sierk stuck up, and stuck up wouldn't even be the right words :rolleyes: .
Some of you need to go and look up the word corrupt in your Junior School Dictionary.
Kasabian
06-06-2006, 07:27 PM
Couldn't find the Junior School Dictionary, Sorry.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Corrupt
JackHb
06-06-2006, 07:32 PM
Couldn't find the Junior School Dictionary, Sorry.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Corrupt
Maybe you left it behind at potty training.
Kasabian
06-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Yeah, Remind me, I must go back and learn, I just hit the roof.
Thread Closed - Sorry this has gone on far enough and it is now getting to the point of childish name calling and users provoking others.
If you have a problem with the forum or the site and you dont think it will ever be resolved you can simply LEAVE!
If you have a suggestion or wondering why you were banned then use the contact form.
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