Scottish inventions/things/people

[Eoin]

Logarithms
The Bank of England
Capitalism
The overdraft
The decimal point
The threshing machine
The gravitating compass
Street lighting
The steam engine
The pneumatic tyre
The pedal bicycle
Tarmacadam (the modern road surface)
The locomotive
The bus
The telegraph
The thermos flask
The telephone
The gas mask
Colour photographs
The lawnmower
Television
The fax machine
The photocopier
Video
The kaleidoscope
Theory of combustion
Electric light
Geology
Gardenias
Helium
Radar
Neon
Artificial ice
Dolly, the cloned sheep
The hypodermic syringe
Anaesthesia
Morphine
Antiseptics
Insulin
Penicillin
Interferon
The thermometer
Ante-natal clinics
Golf
Curling
Shinty
Tennis courts
The bowling green
The alpha chip
Blue lasers
Kerr Lens Modelocking techniques
Marmalade
Writing paper
The fountain pen
Postcards
The Mackintosh (aka raincoats)
Suspenders
Finger-printing
Encyclopaedia Britannica
Documentary films
The traffic cone
Sherlock HolmesJust thing about it, without us you wouldnt be able to watch big brother :o

[HellyBelly]

SuspendersOh we just own.
Scotland > England :]

[Wootzeh]

wt bout Haggis?

[HellyBelly]

wt bout Haggis?

ahaha.
something like 90% of americans apparantly think a haggis is a rare bird.

[Eoin]

Irn-Bru

[Wootzeh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_inventions

[clazzles]

ahaha.
something like 90% of americans apparantly think a haggis is a rare bird.
roflmaoo.

helen have u ever eaten haggis?

[Mr.Kylee]

I don't know what's haggis :)

[HellyBelly]

roflmaoo.

helen have u ever eaten haggis?

Yeah, it's gross.

[Eoin]

I dont like it that much.

Fish supper and bottle of Irn-bru will do me.

[Confused]

Everything the English made:

Agriculture

* Seed drill - Jethro Tull

Communications

* Clockwork radio - Trevor Baylis

Computing

* Analytical engine - Sir Charles Babbage
* ACE and Pilot ACE - Alan Turing
* Bombe - Alan Turing
* Colossus computer - Tommy Flowers
* Difference engine - Sir Charles Babbage
* World Wide Web - Sir Tim Berners-Lee
* ZX Spectrum - Sir Clive Sinclair

Clock making

* Anchor escapement - Robert Hooke
* Balance spring - Robert Hooke (disputed - possibly invented by Christiaan Huygens of the Netherlands)
* Grasshopper escapement - John Harrison
* Gridiron pendulum - John Harrison

Clothing manufacturing

* Derby Rib (stocking manufacture) - Jedediah Strutt
* Flying shuttle - John Kay
* Mauveine, the first synthetic organic dye - William Perkin
* Power loom - Edmund Cartwright
* Spinning frame - John Kay
* Spinning jenny - James Hargreaves
* Spinning mule - Samuel Crompton

Cryptography

* Playfair cipher - Charles Wheatstone

Engineering

* Adjustable spanner - Edwin Beard Budding
* First coke-consuming blast furnace - Abraham Darby I
* First working universal joint - Robert Hooke
* Newcomen steam engine - Thomas Newcomen
o Modified version of the Newcomen steam engine (Pickard engine) - James Pickard
* Pendulum Governor - Frederick Lanchester
* The first *****-cutting lathe - Henry Maudslay

Food

* Bird's Custard - Alfred Bird
* Sandwich - John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich

Household appliances

* Ballbarrow - James Dyson
* Cat flap - Sir Isaac Newton (attributed)
* Collapsible baby buggy - Owen Maclaren
* Dyson DC01 - James Dyson
* Fire extinguisher - George William Manby
* Lawn mower - Edwin Beard Budding
* Rubber band - Stephen Perry

Industrial processes

* Bessemer process - Henry Bessemer
* Hydraulic press - Joseph Bramah
* Parkesine, the first man-made plastic - Alexander Parkes
* Portland cement - Joseph Aspdin
* Sheffield plate - Thomas Boulsover
* Water frame - Richard Arkwright

Medical

* Artificial intraocular lens transplant surgery for cataract patients - Harold Ridley

Military

* Congreve rocket - William Congreve
* High explosive squash head - Sir Charles Dennistoun Burney
* Puckle Gun - James Puckle
* Shrapnel shell - Henry Shrapnel

Mining

* Davy lamp - Humphry Davy
* Geordie lamp - George Stephenson

Musical instruments

* Concertina - Charles Wheatstone

Photography

* Ambrotype - Frederick Scott Archer
* Calotype - William Fox Talbot
* Collodion process - Frederick Scott Archer
* Stereoscope - Charles Wheatstone

Science

* Compound microscope with 30x magnification - Robert Hooke
* Electrical generator (dynamo) - Michael Faraday
* Galvanometer - William Sturgeon
* Marsh test for Arsenic - James Marsh
* Newtonian telescope - Sir Isaac Newton
* Micrometer - Sir William Gascoigne
o the first bench micrometer that was capable of measuring to one ten thousandth of an inch - Henry Maudslay
* Sinclair Executive, the world's first small electronic pocket calculator - Sir Clive Sinclair
* Slide rule - William Oughtred
* Synthesis of coumarin, one of the first synthetic perfumes, and cinnamic acid via the Perkin reaction- William Perkin

Transport
Railways
Locomotives

* Blucher - George Stephenson
* Puffing Billy -William Hedley
* Locomotion No 1 - Robert Stephenson
* Sans Pareil - Timothy Hackworth
* Stephenson's Rocket - George and Robert Stephenson

Other railway developments

* Displacement lubricator, Ramsbottom safety valve, the water trough, the split piston ring - John Ramsbottom

Roads

* Bowden cable - Frank Bowden
* Cat's eye - Percy Shaw
* Caterpillar track - Sir George Cayley
* Hansom cab - Joseph Hansom
* Seat belt - George Cayley
* Sinclair C5 - Sir Clive Sinclair
* Tarmac - E. Purnell Hooley

Sea

* Hovercraft - Christopher ****erell
* Lifeboat - Lionel Lukin
* Resurgam - George Garrett
* Turbinia, the first steam turbine powered steamship, designed by the Irish engineer Sir Charles Algernon Parsons and built in Newcastle upon Tyne

Air

* Jet engine - Sir Frank Whittle

Miscellaneous

* Daylight saving time - William Willett
* Meccano - Frank Hornby

[clazzles]

Yeah, it's gross.
lmao isn't it like sheeps lungs or something?

[Confused]

lmao isn't it like sheeps lungs or something?
Sheep's balls I think.

[Mr.Kylee]

Sheep's balls I think.
Omg, ow. ;( poor freaking sheep

[Eoin]

Haggis is a steamed pudding made of finely minced sheep heart, lungs and liver. Wraped in a sheeps stomach.

YUMMY!

[Mr.Kylee]

Haggis is a steamed pudding made of finely minced sheep heart, lungs and liver. Wraped in a sheeps stomach.

YUMMY!
EW. How can you eat that :x

I adore sheeps and you eat them? BADD.

[Eoin]

So youve never had lamb before?

[clazzles]

Haggis is a steamed pudding made of finely minced sheep heart, lungs and liver. Wraped in a sheeps stomach.

YUMMY!
ew just ew.

[Mr.Kylee]

So youve never had lamb before?
COURSE NOT.

I only eat chicken meat and fish ;) and even that is like once per two weeks.

[HellyBelly]

jordan sorry but we own, we invented TV.

[Confused]

PC > TV.

[HellyBelly]

PC > TV.

England didn't invent the first PC.

[Eoin]

The traffic cone > PC

:P

[Wootzeh]

jordan sorry but we own, we invented TV.
We invented the world wide web :8

[Mr.Kylee]

I don't even know what italians invented. :rolleyes:

[Confused]

Yeah, and PC's are nothing without the internet.

[Jane]

I don't even know what italians invented. :rolleyes:


YOU'RE ITALIAN!!? I so thought you were Canadian. Awesome.

[HUGECOOL]

jordan sorry but we own, we invented TV.
Actually, the television was patent number 30,105 in Germany, but the construction of said invention never took place. So it was invented and patented in Germany, but constructed by a Scot who lived in London who needed much help from an American, Philo T. Farnsworth, who publically demonstrated the first electronic television image in 1928.

[Eoin]

Irn-Bru owns everything.
It is actually the best drink ever.

[HellyBelly]

I don't even know what italians invented. :rolleyes:

Pizza! :P

[Mr.Kylee]

Pizza! :P
Yum. :8


and Jane I'm half italian and half canadian but I live really close to Italy ^_^

[Jane]

Yum. :8


and Jane I'm half italian and half canadian but I live really close to Italy ^_^

How do you say 'Jane is awesome' in Italian>?!?!//1

[Mr.Kylee]

il jane e (with the little line thing above, my keyboard doesn't got that) impressionante? something like that, we don't speak italian here and my first language isn't italian either.

[Honesty]

Haggis is a steamed pudding made of finely minced sheep heart, lungs and liver. Wraped in a sheeps stomach.

YUMMY!
Ewww :x

[Eoin]

www.freetranlation.com (http://www.freetranlation.com)

Just a rough translation but i use it for french homework.

[Confused]

Irn-Bru owns everything.
It is actually the best drink ever.
The band in your avatar are English :]

[Eoin]

Yeh but there awsome!

[clazzles]

i fort dundee woz in australia?

[Eoin]

Ha ha

There's a perth in australia aswell.

Stolen :P

[Confused]

Most English speaking countries have the same place names.

[HellyBelly]

la gente inglesa debe ser hecha para adorar a la gente escocesa, porque los hombres ingleses tienen penes pequeños.

[Eoin]

la gente inglesa debe ser hecha para adorar a la gente escocesa, porque los hombres ingleses tienen penes pequeños.

The English people should be done to worship to the Scottish people, because the English men have grieve small.

Great shout :P

[Confused]

Helen usted habla una carga de la mierda. Inglaterra es mejor que Escocia. :]

[ilovejordan]

FACEE IT england > scotland.


anyway kyle where the hell do you live?

brb

[HellyBelly]

Helen usted habla una carga de la mierda. Inglaterra es mejor que Escocia. :]

Escocia es supreiour a Inglaterra de cada manera.
los ingleses aspiran.
Amo a algunos de ellos sin embargo, como Jordania. :]

[Confused]

Escocia es supreiour a Inglaterra de cada manera.
los ingleses aspiran.
Amo a algunos de ellos sin embargo, como Jordania. :]
Gracias Helen. A pesar de algunas personas escocesas es haces de leña, te quiero mucho. :]

[Mr.Kylee]

FACEE IT england > scotland.


anyway kyle where the hell do you live?

brb
SLOVENIA, don't ask where is that use google.




usted ambos toro de discurso, italianos son el mejor

[ilovejordan]

La parada de Rofl que coquetea. Sí im listo y logró averiguar que su hablando español:]

Y ah kyle que he oído de allí:] *listo*

[ilovejordan]

omg that translation things crap :[

[ilovejordan]

我擁有你 :]]]]]]]]]]]]]

[Mr.Kylee]

我擁有你 :]]]]]]]]]]]]]
kak si nora :)

[Confused]

SLOVENIA, don't ask where is that use google.




usted ambos toro de discurso, italianos son el mejor
A map of Europe is here (http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_MAPS/0_map_europe_political_2001_enlarged.jpg)

Slovenia is to the right of Italy.

[HellyBelly]

Gracias Helen. A pesar de algunas personas escocesas es haces de leña, te quiero mucho. :]

gracias.
quisiera tener un niño con usted.
la cópula sexual con usted sería agradable.
es una vergüenza que usted es inglés.

[Eoin]

Good to see were staying on topic :eusa_wall

[ilovejordan]

kak si nora :)
螺絲你 .

[Confused]

gracias.
quisiera tener un niño con usted.
la cópula sexual con usted sería agradable.
es una vergüenza que usted es inglés. Joda qué país que somos de. ¡Tengamos el sexo!

[Mr.Kylee]

螺絲你 .
be nice to me ;(

and jordan and helen gona have cyber any min now :rolleyes: rofl.

[ilovejordan]

Im 總是好跟你：）以及我知道的 。肮髒的阿拉伯人。

[Confused]

Spanish cyber lolol.

[ilovejordan]

Spanish cyber lolol.


如何 um .. 好色之徒

[Mr.Kylee]

如何 um .. 好色之徒
STOP IT. :(

[HellyBelly]

Joda qué país que somos de. ¡Tengamos el sexo!

-changes to french-

Je t'aime.
ayons le sexe bientôt.
le kyle peut se joindre dedans s'il a un grand pénis.

[ilovejordan]

STOP IT. :(

I said how um.. erotic. I didn't say nothing about you :P

[Mr.Kylee]

-changes to french-

Je t'aime.
ayons le sexe bientôt.
le kyle peut se joindre dedans s'il a un grand pénis.
-joins in-

[HellyBelly]

-joins in-

lmao so you fit the requirments? ;)

[ilovejordan]

-joins in-

Vous n'avez pas un grand pénis. Vous ne pouvez pas participer

[Confused]

-changes to french-

Je t'aime.
ayons le sexe bientôt.
le kyle peut se joindre dedans s'il a un grand pénis.
J'aime les trios. Les marques de Helen aiment comme trois femmes de toute façon.

[Mr.Kylee]

Vous n'avez pas un grand pénis. Vous ne pouvez pas participer
LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW.

[ilovejordan]

J'aimerais sexe maintenant.

[HellyBelly]

J'aime les trios. Les marques de Helen aiment comme trois femmes de toute façon.

J'aimerais avoir l'amusement avec 5.5 pouces de la Jordanie d'amusement.
J'ai parié que vous seriez bon au sexe, même si vous êtes anglais.

[ilovejordan]

oh me croire kyle je sais ;)

[Drooped]

Haggis actually tastes amazing.. and YES i'm Scottish too, extremely proud. It's nice with a good spicy taste. I love haggis.

remember the kilt!

[ilovejordan]

L'anglais vous possède helen. Et vous le savez

[FlyingJesus]

I don't even know what italians invented. :rolleyes:

I believe the Romans were Italian, were they not? They invented some pretty useful hygeine facilities (the "bath" comes to mind) and also most modern languages are based on Latin..

And the Scotland/England thing, we only need to know one fact to prove England superior.

English inventions.

* Scotland.

[HellyBelly]

I believe the Romans were Italian, were they not? They invented some pretty useful hygeine facilities (the "bath" comes to mind) and also most modern languages are based on Latin..

And the Scotland/England thing, we only need to know one fact to prove England superior.

English inventions.

* Scotland.

Go to hell.

[clazzles]

English inventions.

* Scotland.
LOL SO TRUEEE.

[ilovejordan]

Go to hell.

you got owned :]

[HellyBelly]

you got owned :]

Um no, because it's not true? :s

[Eoin]

I believe the Romans were Italian, were they not? They invented some pretty useful hygeine facilities (the "bath" comes to mind) and also most modern languages are based on Latin..

And the Scotland/England thing, we only need to know one fact to prove England superior.

English inventions.

* Scotland.

That blow was too low

[Mr.Kylee]

ROFL, helen aw. :D and romans lived where Italy is today (Rome)..so yeah I guess?

[ilovejordan]

Um no, because it's not true? :s

it is ;]

[HellyBelly]

one place cannot "invent" another :rolleyes:

[ilovejordan]

one place cannot "invent" another :rolleyes:

discover then.
W/E :]

[Eoin]

one place cannot "invent" another :rolleyes:

Concured

[HellyBelly]

discover then.
W/E :]

It wasn't an english person who discovered scotland.

If id had been, the stupid mong would have made it part of England.
Thank god that never happened :]

[FlyingJesus]

Us English invented most of the world's countries actually.. when we controlled Africa we divided it up into countries as we wanted (hence why the African countries have very much squared-off boundaries) and also because we found and colonised a lot of islands and areas, we named them how we wanted and thus invented the country. We didn't actually make the land, but we set the borders and we gave them names, that to me says that we invented the countries.

Edit: And the reason they didn't make Scotland part of England is that the Scots (then known as Picts) were too vicious, and we just gave them a country so they'd bugger off and not raid Northern England.

[HellyBelly]

Us English invented most of the world's countries actually.. when we controlled Africa we divided it up into countries as we wanted (hence why the African countries have very much squared-off boundaries) and also because we found and colonised a lot of islands and areas, we named them how we wanted and thus invented the country. We didn't actually make the land, but we set the borders and we gave them names, that to me says that we invented the countries.

No, the UK as a whole did.

[Mr.Kylee]

It wasn't an english person who discovered scotland.

If id had been, the stupid mong would have made it part of England.
Thank god that never happened :]
accept it ;]

[FlyingJesus]

Scotland was founded well before the colonies though, by the English kings who were tired of the Picts attacking places up north, so we gave them the top of our island as a country ^_^

[ilovejordan]

No, the UK as a whole did.

Scotland is part of the whole uk. You should support england in the world cup being that their your neighbours and if you got invaded or w/e we would use our army to fight.

[Drooped]

I believe the Romans were Italian, were they not? They invented some pretty useful hygeine facilities (the "bath" comes to mind) and also most modern languages are based on Latin..

And the Scotland/England thing, we only need to know one fact to prove England superior.

English inventions.

* Scotland.

if i remember right... There were life in Scotland, before england? barbarians i think? And.. we were creating communities before you.

We were around before you, sorry.

[HellyBelly]

Scotland was founded well before the colonies though, by the English kings who were tired of the Picts attacking places up north, so we gave them the top of our island as a country ^_^

That is not how i remember hearing it in history :P
England tried to take over Scotland plenty of times, but never managed it :]


if i remember right... There were life in Scotland, before england? barbarians i think? And.. we were creating communities before you.

We were around before you, sorry.


I thought that too :]
So scotland probably invented England.

[ilovejordan]

Scotland is part of the whole uk. You should support england in the world cup being that their your neighbours and if you got invaded or w/e we would use our army to fight.
:rolleyes:

[alexxxxx]

Just thing about it, without us you wouldnt be able to watch big brother :o

But without the English you wouldn't be able to post that, because, from what I remember, some parts of the internet system was invented by a English dude.

[Drooped]

Scotland, england, ireland & Wales should ALL be independant. I'm sick of stuck up english ruling in parlement over OUR country. So.. NAW.

[ilovejordan]

Scotland, england, ireland & Wales should ALL be independant. I'm sick of stuck up english ruling in parlement over OUR country. So.. NAW.

Lol its not the english parliament its the uk parliament :]

[Eoin]

Scotland, england, ireland & Wales should ALL be independant. I'm sick of stuck up english ruling in parlement over OUR country. So.. NAW.

Dude scotlands got its own parliment

[HellyBelly]

:rolleyes:

That's so hypocritical.
You expect us to support you when people like you have that superior attitude? :]

[Drooped]

But without the English you wouldn't be able to post that, because, from what I remember, some parts of the internet system was invented by a English dude.

BTW..they invented this thing, called a TELEVISION which.. yet again IS A SCOTTISH INVENTION.

[ilovejordan]

That's so hypocritical.
You expect us to support you when people like you have that superior attitude? :]

rofl i only have this attitude towards scots / welsh / irish [mainly scots] because they think we all think we're above them. If you think that who are you judging us by? Tony blair?

[Drooped]

Dude scotlands got its own parliment

rofl.. only gays or moshers etc call other people dudes if they're from scotland.

so I thought..

BTW THERE'S 'DEVOLVED POWERS' the english parlement deside on them such as immigration [why we're plagued with ****'s] war & security etc.

[FlyingJesus]

That is not how i remember hearing it in history :P
England tried to take over Scotland plenty of times, but never managed it :]

True enough, we never could take over Scotland, but we did set the borders and made it into an official country.



if i remember right... There were life in Scotland, before england? barbarians i think? And.. we were creating communities before you.

We were around before you, sorry.

I thought that too :]
So scotland probably invented England.

There was life, I wasn't denying that, but it wasn't an official country. Barbarian tribes aren't countries, they're just like basic towns. The English (once England had been formed) decided that rather than admit that they couldn't keep their own people under control, they'd section off the troublemakers, giving them a country (Scotland).

[HellyBelly]

rofl i only have this attitude towards scots / welsh / irish [mainly scots] because they think we all think we're above them. If you think that who are you judging us by? Tony blair?

No, by people like you.
and you're "England invented Scotland" attitude.
Scotland would be far better off if it was seperated from England, and didn't have to be associated with it at all.

[HellyBelly]

True enough, we never could take over Scotland, but we did set the borders and made it into an official country.


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There was life, I wasn't denying that, but it wasn't an official country. Barbarian tribes aren't countries, they're just like basic towns. The English (once England had been formed) decided that rather than admit that they couldn't keep their own people under control, they'd section off the troublemakers, giving them a country (Scotland).

Ok so you declared it an official country, big deal?
that is not "inventing" it, or discovering it.

[ilovejordan]

No, by people like you.
and you're "England invented Scotland" attitude.

I didn't say england invented scotland ;)

[Confused]

You can't stereotype everyone in a country because of the people running it.

[FlyingJesus]

Ok so you declared it an official country, big deal?
that is not "inventing" it, or discovering it.

Inventing the borders and name of a country seems pretty much like inventing it to me.

[ilovejordan]

You can't stereotype everyone in a country because of the people running it.

what sexy said ^_^

[Drooped]

you can't say england 'invented' scotland? what.. did they get JCB's and take mud and gravel and stones from.. other countries and fill in the sea to make scotland?

trekkers from England obviously just kept walking and found scotland.

WE WERE AROUND BEFORE YOU SON.

[Eoin]

rofl.. only gays or moshers etc call other people dudes if they're from scotland.

so I thought..

BTW THERE'S 'DEVOLVED POWERS' the english parlement deside on them such as immigration [why we're plagued with ****'s] war & security etc.


Calm down, i was just making a point?

[Joe.]

yes we would :/ someone else would have thought of it just later on in time

[HellyBelly]

You can't stereotype everyone in a country because of the people running it.

It isn't by the people running it? :s
It's by the majority of english people.
and i'm not stereotyping everyone in the country, you know i like some english people :p It's just the majority.


Inventing the borders and name of a country seems pretty much like inventing it to me.

You didn't invent the country.
It was already there, already had people who considered it their home and all that.
And if it was England who decided the borders, which it wasn't, then surely some of those "english" people could have been Scots? if the borders had not yet been decided, then Scots could have had a part in naming the country and deciding it's borders too :]
The borders are where they are, because the Scots would not let the English past a certain place, and decided where the border of Scotland was themselves. Got told it in history :] England just accepted where the Scots considered the border of Scotland, because the Scots attacked them if they went past it :P


I didn't say england invented scotland
you said it was true?

[Drooped]

I'm racist, sorry?
at least i'm truthful.

[Mr.Kylee]

EVERYBODY BREATHE..IN AND OUT

[FlyingJesus]

you can't say england 'invented' scotland? what.. did they get JCB's and take mud and gravel and stones from.. other countries and fill in the sea to make scotland?

trekkers from England obviously just kept walking and found scotland.

I already said we didn't build the country itself, but what I mean by us inventing Scotland is that we founded it.


WE WERE AROUND BEFORE YOU SON.

Proof please? The English were in England at the same time as the Scottish being Scotland, but then we were all Picts/Celts/Gaels, and the whole lot of us were barbarians. It was only with the invasion of other countries that England itself grew, and I acknowledge that because I can accept fact ;) We're a country formed of loads of countries, we've been invaded by just about everyone and now we've got the best of everything, hence why our ancestors were able to develop enough to explore everywhere and found new countries. If you want to argue that being in a place first means you made that place, then the Africans invented every country that's ever been inhabited.

[ilovejordan]

you said it was true?

I didn't?

[Confused]

Woah this thread is treading on dangerous grounds..

[HellyBelly]

I didn't?

Yes you did ;s
FlyingJesus said it and you quoted and said "you got owned :]"
then i said i didn't because it wasn't true, and you said "it is ;]"

:]

[Mr.Kylee]

Woah this thread is treading on dangerous grounds..
I KNOW, RUN. :rolleyes: calm down, jesus. Go get laid and relax.

[FlyingJesus]

Perfectly calm, I'm just proving my point ;)

[Joe.]

is this a debate or an argument?

[HellyBelly]

Perfectly calm, I'm just proving my point ;)

And i proved it wrong :]

[Confused]

I'm leaving cos I don't wanna fall out with Helen >_>

[ilovejordan]

Yes you did ;s
FlyingJesus said it and you quoted and said "you got owned :]"
then i said i didn't because it wasn't true, and you said "it is ;]"

:]

Oh. My bad. Well its true at the end of the day we're two countries that make up one whole one and im sorry but its a fact that england is more well known than scotland.

[Wootzeh]

Next thing you know they'll be arguing about black not being a colour :rolleyes:
You guys are fighting over nothing. Therefore I conclude : I win.

[HellyBelly]

I'm leaving cos I don't wanna fall out with Helen >_>

I wouldn't fall out with you :P
I'm not going to get angry at every english person who crosses my path lol, and you don't claim to have invented scotland or anything, so you're safe ;]

[Wootzeh]

I wouldn't fall out with you :P
I'm not going to get angry at every english person who crosses my path lol, and you don't claim to have invented scotland or anything, so you're safe ;]
He would of but he doesn't want to argue.

[HellyBelly]

Oh. My bad. Well its true at the end of the day we're two countries that make up one whole one and im sorry but its a fact that england is more well known than scotland.

LOL.
what does being well known have to do with it?
And that's bs.
We make up the UK yeah, so if someone knows of England, they are most likely going to know of Scotland too, they're just as well known as each other.

[Confused]

What's the point of arguing?

[Mr.Kylee]

Helen and cassie, sugars/h0s stop fighting or proving eachother wrong, WHO CARES. ;(

we all love eachother and we'll have a big orgy ok?

[FlyingJesus]

And if it was England who decided the borders, which it wasn't, then surely some of those "english" people could have been Scots? if the borders had not yet been decided, then Scots could have had a part in naming the country and deciding it's borders too :]

Not quite sure I follow you on that.. the Picts and English didn't really communicate with anything other than warcries, so I don't think they sat down and debated about names for a country.


The borders are where they are, because the Scots would not let the English past a certain place, and decided where the border of Scotland was themselves. Got told it in history :] England just accepted where the Scots considered the border of Scotland, because the Scots attacked them if they went past it :P

I'll accept that in part, because I know that the Scots did hold back the English at a certain point, at which the English were forced to make the boundaries. However it was still the English decision :8 This is really just an argument of pride now.. all the facts have already been said.

[HellyBelly]

What's the point of arguing?

Because if one side backs down the other assumes it's right.

[ilovejordan]

LOL.
what does being well known have to do with it?
And that's bs.
We make up the UK yeah, so if someone knows of England, they are most likely going to know of Scotland too, they're just as well known as each other.

Scotland isn't lol, I speak to a lot of people from other countries and they say their more familier with england than scotland. They know a lot more places in england etc. More goes on in england. I dont know why it just does? No countries better than another but tbh i dont think scotland should be called a country nor should england because they both make up england their just part of a country.

[ilovejordan]

both make up the uk*

[FlyingJesus]

Because if one side backs down the other assumes it's right.

Isn't pride fun? :P

[Mr.Kylee]

Jordan we'll invite somebody (ryan pls or joe ;)) and have orgy alone, let them fight. Immature ^_^

[HellyBelly]

Not quite sure I follow you on that.. the Picts and English didn't really communicate with anything other than warcries, so I don't think they sat down and debated about names for a country.



I'll accept that in part, because I know that the Scots did hold back the English at a certain point, at which the English were forced to make the boundaries. However it was still the English decision :8 This is really just an argument of pride now.. all the facts have already been said.

Yeah, England "decided" on something that was already set?
They just wanted it to look like they had some say in it.
And the whole naming the country thing, i refuse to accept that naming the country means they "invented it".

This whole England inventing scotland thing just proves that Scotland's reason for hating England is pretty fair, because a lot of the English assume they're superior to the Scots and all that, just because they're a bigger country.

And yeah it's all about pride lol.

[FlyingJesus]

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[ilovejordan]

Sh va le coup votre petit kyle de pénis.

[HellyBelly]

Jordan we'll invite somebody (ryan pls or joe ;)) and have orgy alone, let them fight. Immature ^_^

It isn't fighting :s
It's like a debate.

well the drooped guy was fighting yeah ;P

[ilovejordan]

This whole England inventing scotland thing just proves that Scotland's reason for hating England is pretty fair, because a lot of the English assume they're superior to the Scots and all that, just because they're a bigger country.

And yeah it's all about pride lol.

which english people are you going by then? because there are some gits in scotland that think their above the english too. It works both ways

[HellyBelly]

which english people are you going by then? because there are some gits in scotland that think their above the english too. It works both ways

I know they do, but with most Scots who do, it's because they think the English look down on them, so take the same attitude themselves.

[ilovejordan]

I know they do, but with most Scots who do, it's because they think the English look down on them, so take the same attitude themselves.

Lol how do you know that? Do you know the majority of scots ? ;)

I do not know any english people that hate scotland. My best mates scottish. :l

[Eoin]

Heated debate

Banter!

[Mr.Kylee]

Cassie you're mean ;( hope Helen wins the ''debate''.


FLYINGJESUS, wth happened with that guy's THING?

[FlyingJesus]

Cassie you're mean ;( hope Helen wins the ''debate''.

You stay out of this :P And that's a picture of Steven. that one of the girlies found ^_^

I can't really say whether the English in general look down on the rest of the world, because I look down on just about everyone, but as Cassie said, I don't know any English people who are anti-Scot.

[ilovejordan]

Cassie you're mean ;( hope Helen wins the ''debate''.

aller mourir.

[HellyBelly]

Lol how do you know that? Do you know the majority of scots ? ;)

I do not know any english people that hate scotland. My best mates scottish. :l

So just because you don't know any, it isn't there?
It's common knowledge that the Scottish and English dislike each other :s
Everyone knows it.

And I'm going by everyone on my island, who is very anti english :]
And by television programmes on the subject :]
I never claimed to know the majority of Scots.

[alexxxxx]

aller mourir.

xD :P

Go where? My french is bad.

[FlyingJesus]

So just because you don't know any, it isn't there?
It's common knowledge that the Scottish and English dislike each other :s
Everyone knows it.

Actually the only people we really hate are the French, and possibly some Welsh farmers.

Edit: Saiteko I believe it says "Go die" :)

[Mr.Kylee]

aller mourir.
le sucer

[ilovejordan]

So just because you don't know any, it isn't there?
It's common knowledge that the Scottish and English dislike each other :s
Everyone knows it.

And I'm going by everyone on my island, who is very anti english :]

I never claimed to know the majority of Scots.


you know everyone on your island then?

and i must be thick because i didn't know that. All i knew was that scots didn't like the english..

[Joe.]

i think the scotish are okay apart from their bagpipes lol

[ilovejordan]

xD :P

Go where? My french is bad.

it meant go die lol
and kyle


Vous souhaitez.

[FlyingJesus]

i think the scotish are okay apart from their bagpipes lol

Bagpipes are brilliant when played well.

[ilovejordan]

Bagpipes are brilliant when played well.

they confuse me

[Eoin]

I think the reason there is such a rivalry between England and Scotland because most of our ancestors would have been fighting for one of these countries, against the other.
Maybe it does have something to do with the past?

[Joe.]

pourquoi parlez-vous en français ?

[ilovejordan]

Thats what i said "/
It was cos some dude left scotland to rule over england or something

[Mr.Kylee]

it meant go die lol
and kyle


Vous souhaitez.
Vous savez que vous voulez à :) yep, she wants me to die </3.

[ilovejordan]

pourquoi parlez-vous en français ?
Parce que je veux à.

[Joe.]

bagpipes are good in the american pie boot camp

do the scots actually like skirts?

[FlyingJesus]

Thats what i said "/
It was cos some dude left scotland to rule over england or something

King James yeah, he ended up ruling both countries, so our government nicked their special stone thingy which they used to annoint the Scottish Kings ^_^

[ilovejordan]

do you mean kilts lol?

[ilovejordan]

King James yeah, he ended up ruling both countries, so our government nicked their special stone thingy which they used to annoint the Scottish Kings ^_^

lol was he the one who bankrupted england so he went to scotland and they wouldn't have him back?

[HellyBelly]

Actually the only people we really hate are the French, and possibly some Welsh farmers.

Edit: Saiteko I believe it says "Go die" :)

Lol ok hate was the wrong word, like look down on?
Because that's the main reason for the Scottish disliking the english, they think they look down on us.

And Cassie, I do know most people on this island.
It isn't hard.
and even without knowing them, it's known here that we're all anti-english.
except for the english people :P


bagpipes are good in the american pie boot camp

do the scots actually like skirts?

If you mean kilts no, guys only wear them when they're getting married really.

And I'm gonna leave this thread now cos it's like pointless lol.

[FlyingJesus]

My mum has a kilt.

[Joe.]

yes kilts, their funny :)

and the belts they were

allez vous !

[ilovejordan]

Lol ok hate was the wrong word, like look down on?
Because that's the main reason for the Scottish disliking the english, they think they look down on us.

And Cassie, I do know most people on this island.
It isn't hard.
and even without knowing them, it's known here that we're all anti-english.
except for the english people :P

And I'm gonna leave this thread now cos it's like pointless lol.

K bye :P:rolleyes:

[Mr.Kylee]

Lol ok hate was the wrong word, like look down on?
Because that's the main reason for the Scottish disliking the english, they think they look down on us.

And Cassie, I do know most people on this island.
It isn't hard.
and even without knowing them, it's known here that we're all anti-english.
except for the english people :P



If you mean kilts no, guys only wear them when they're getting married really.

And I'm gonna leave this thread now cos it's like pointless lol.
yeah leave me alone with a person that wants me to die ;(

[Joe.]

who wants you to die >;O

it is prety pointless now

[FlyingJesus]

the main reason for the Scottish disliking the english, they think they look down on us.

It's not our fault we're better than everyone :P Nah just kidding, I think your lot might be a bit confused though, the English as far as I know get on pretty well with the Scots, and we both get on with the Irish, and everyone looks down on the Welsh.

[ilovejordan]

yeah leave me alone with a person that wants me to die ;(
vous savez que je adore tu vraiment

[Drooped]

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[ilovejordan]

wow. how polite..

[Mr.Kylee]

vous savez que je adore tu vraiment
AWWW. I gota save this post ^_^ bon maintenant le sucer

[ilovejordan]

AWWW. I gota save this post ^_^ bon maintenant le sucer

roflmao. vous souhaitez <3

[FlyingJesus]

This is a tad confusing, we're talking about English/Scottish relations and here you two are speaking French, whilst someone who probably doesn't even know where Scotland is asks questions about skirts...

[Mr.Kylee]

This is a tad confusing, we're talking about English/Scottish relations and here you two are speaking French, whilst someone who probably doesn't even know where Scotland is asks questions about skirts...
I agree ^_^ no more french Cassie.

[Eoin]

Yeh this thread has gone off topic a few times :P

[FlyingJesus]

I agree ^_^ no more french Cassie.

Language of the true enemy :P

[ilovejordan]

I agree ^_^ no more french Cassie.


sicher Dingbaby

[Adam$]

What is a Logarthism?

[Eoin]

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7817/braveheart7eq.jpg
Weve got William Wallace


http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6223/dsc056655gt.jpg

Youve got Henry 8th


TeeHee

[FlyingJesus]

Henry VIII was a proper oaf, we were the richest country in the world when he came to power, then he made us even richer by pillaging the churches, but by the time he died he'd managed to spend all of it :S

[Eoin]

He didnt manage to take over scotland though

[FlyingJesus]

Kicked the shít out of Spain though, haha.

[Eoin]

Scotland is minuscule compared to spain, shows how powerful scotland must have been.:P

[iluvben]

Just thing about it, without us you wouldnt be able to watch big brother :o

Umm yes we would ? Someone else would of just created it plus Scotland as a whole didn't create the television so theirs really no us it's just that individual.

[FlyingJesus]

Scotland is minuscule compared to spain, shows how powerful scotland must have been.:P

Actually I think you'll find Henners had political control over Scotland by then :P

[Eoin]

Actually I think you'll find Henners had political control over Scotland by then :P

Fair point, but who honestly give a stuff about politics?

[Eoin]

What is a Logarthism?

Something to do with maths, I think.

[Craig]

Whats with all these idiots on the forum who can't debate a topic without spamming "/ Show's how much of a life they have and a lack of IQ or any intelligence atall.

[iluvben]

Scottish people created something to do with maths ;o damm you people :p

[Eoin]

Our bad :P

[ilovejordan]

Whats with all these idiots on the forum who can't debate a topic without spamming "/ Show's how much of a life they have and a lack of IQ or any intelligence atall.

Well thats nice. Just becuase someone jokes doesn't mean they have a low iq ;l

[Craig]

Well thats nice. Just becuase someone jokes doesn't mean they have a low iq ;l

Yeah but in some cases it's true. Like they say truth hurts and if you don't want to be branded like this then you could go and learn some stuff instead of 'having jokes on a forum'.

[ilovejordan]

Yeah but in some cases it's true. Like they say truth hurts and if you don't want to be branded like this then you could go and learn some stuff instead of 'having jokes on a forum'.

I'd rather be having fun than studying? and before you say "you can't have fun on a forum" its fun laughing at certain people. :]

[Eoin]

I think I shud Just close this thread because it seems to be causing alot of trouble.

Cheers guys

[Craig]

I'd rather be having fun than studying? and before you say "you can't have fun on a forum" its fun laughing at certain people. :]

Yeah and this is why your fun makes you look immature and idiotic. Not that you aren't them things anyway..... And I know what you mean about laughing at certain people, I've had many laughs with people about a certain person.