Xbox vs Playstation vs Nintendo

[Frodo13.]

OK, So which is better? Facts to consider:


Online play
Next Generation
Hand Held
Graphics

[Neil]

Hmm well lets see,

Xbox -
Online play - I haven't yet played on Xbox live but I've heard it's very good
Next Generation - The first xbox outsold the PS2 in a few month within it's release, the 360 will probably have more sales than the PS3
Hand Held - This is not yet released but I've heard they are making one
Graphics - The first xbox had great graphics but some PS2 games have beaten it, I prefer the xbox myself though


Playstation -
Online play - Not that good, I have played it loads I got bored of it pretty fast, not many decent online games and not many people play the good ones.
Next Generation - PS3 is supposed to be the most advanced piece of gaming technology on the planet so you know what I think.
Hand Held - PSP, that is in my opinion a waste of time, most games are just remakes on PS2 games but some of the features the PSP includes are pretty good
Graphics - Not all the games are very good in this category but I love the graphics of alot of games like Final Fantasy X, X-2 and GT4.


Nintendo -
Online play - Haven't played any online Nintendo games so I wouldn't know.
Next Generation - I am in love with the Wii, the games are awesome and I would rather get one of these than a PS3 or a 360.
Hand Held - Nintendo DS is kind of hard to use but it's easy when you get used to it and the games are great, good graphics and I've heard the WiFi on them is an extremly fun thing to get if you have one
Graphics - I'm a big fan of cartoon styled graphics, no other companys can beat the cartoon graphics that the Nintendo consoles have, every Nintendo game I've played I have thought the graphics were really good but some need a bit of improvement

My fave console company by far has to be Microsoft, xbox is the ultimate RPG console so I like it the most

[Sony.Com]

Sony PS2 all the way - Number one its made by sony, if its made by sony you know you are going to get the best quality possible in a electronic.

Number two- Online play is free.
Number three- Controllers are the right size, not to big or small.
Number four- Bigger selection of games.
number five- Plays ALL types of disks, old versions, DVDs , MP3's, CDs.


So I would have to say SONY PS2 ALL THE WAY!!!

[Biseinen]

Playstation just based on Final Fantasy Tactics and Breath of Fire.

[jordybumz!]

Microsoft or Nintendo. You can't really compare them though.

[Neversoft]

Sony's hit rock bottom, soz. Microsoft is cool, but Nintendo is best.

BTW: It should be,
Microsoft
Sony
Nintendo

NOT

Xbox
Playstation
Nintendo

[JonJon]

PS2 online is free, yet they do over-estimate the amount of people who will play. On T.H.A.W online, there are about 10 rooms, to hold 20 servers.... and everyone always go's in the first 2, with plenty of room. PS2 controllers rock, so easy to use. Sadly my original PS2 broke, so poor reliability, I've heard the same story from manier people. But overall, PS2 = Pwnage.

[Neversoft]

Online play - Nintendo
Next Generation - Nintendo
Hand Held - Nintendo
Graphics - Microsoft

[SnowTwist]

Online play - Nintendo
Next Generation - Nintendo
Hand Held - Nintendo
Graphics - Microsoft
So True :P

[omgabear]

Online play: Definate xbox for xbox live
Next Generation: Nintendo with the WII
Hand Held: PSP
Graphics: Xbox 360

Im backing the 360 due to the whole Halo 3 thing.

[Bear-Max]

Sony PS2 all the way - Number one its made by sony, if its made by sony you know you are going to get the best quality possible in a electronic.


Lol, the PlayStation is actually the worst built of the three - most people I know with a PS2 have had to buy a model 2, 3 or even 4 times because they break. Disc read errors are rife with the system, which seem to turn up (quite conveniently) after your warranty has run out.

Back to the point of the thread:

Online Play - Microsoft are winning at the moment with XBL. It's a great service.

Next Generation - The most exciting console for over a decade has got to be the Wii. It just does so many innovative things.

Handheld - The DS is just so much better than the PSP in so many ways. It's a true games system, and has changed the industry in so many ways.

Graphics - Xbox packed the biggest punch last gen and it shows. This gen though the Xbox and PS3 are a lot more similar, so it's going to be a few years before we see any differences as the two systems' specs are exploited.

On another note, the 360 has the most ergonomic and perfectly structured joypads I've ever has the pleasure of using ;)

[Many]

PS2 owns all.
The XBox controller is a chunky thing.

[Neil]

Lol, the PlayStation is actually the worst built of the three - most people I know with a PS2 have had to buy a model 2, 3 or even 4 times because they break. Disc read errors are rife with the system, which seem to turn up (quite conveniently) after your warranty has run out.

Back to the point of the thread:

Online Play - Microsoft are winning at the moment with XBL. It's a great service.

Next Generation - The most exciting console for over a decade has got to be the Wii. It just does so many innovative things.

Handheld - The DS is just so much better than the PSP in so many ways. It's a true games system, and has changed the industry in so many ways.

Graphics - Xbox packed the biggest punch last gen and it shows. This gen though the Xbox and PS3 are a lot more similar, so it's going to be a few years before we see any differences as the two systems' specs are exploited.

On another note, the 360 has the most ergonomic and perfectly structured joypads I've ever has the pleasure of using ;)
I agree with them choices, Xbox live is great, I've not got it but I've heard about how it is, the Wii is an awesome console already, the DS has to be my fave handheld so far, PSP is a bit of a waste with the graphics I think Ninendo have done it already, no games can have better detail, may not be realistic but the are very well done.

[JonJon]

PS2 owns all.
The XBox controller is a chunky thing.

Yeh.... so chunky.

[SnowTwist]

Can Anyone tell me......
Wths With the Huge Brick Stuck To The 360 Controller?

[SimplyTech]

I dont like the 360 either but the only thing you can seem to critisize is the controller which isnt even that bad.

Online: Nintendo wifi connection amazing online games and free
Next gen: Wii Obvious
Handheld: Ds ultra fun games and good wifi games
Gfx: 360

[Neil]

Can Anyone tell me......
Wths With the Huge Brick Stuck To The 360 Controller?
What huge brick? :s

[Bear-Max]

Can Anyone tell me......
Wths With the Huge Brick Stuck To The 360 Controller?

It's where the rechargable battery goes, and, erm... It's not huge?

[Sony.Com]

Handheld - The DS is just so much better than the PSP in so many ways. It's a true games system, and has changed the industry in so many ways.



Sorry but i have no idea where you are comming from. The DS has NO features that can compare to the PSP. The only thing the DS has which is better is the touch screen.

The PSP screen is 2x - 3x bigger for a start.
The PSP also doubbles as a MP3 player. It also plays Movies *which i supose the DS can but they are only cartoons*
The PSP has a analog and directional pad. Also it has a very good sound system built in for two small speakers.

The PSP also has a lot more games and a bigger varity of them.
Also if you didn't know Sony Reccords is planning to start relecing UMD Music CD's of their artists.

The online play has no comparison between the PSP and the DS. The PSP has better online games and the graphics are a lot better online.
You can also view web pages on the PSP and listen to shoutcast and podcast's.

And how has it changed the game industry? With a touch screen? Whoopie... its a touch screen OMG! *****zess*
Lol

The PSP also out sold the DS at christmas time for gifts. The PSP made 4th on the charts for top gifts... Where was the DS?
Let me see... It didn't even make the list.

So in the end the PSP is better:) Hands down, no comp.
The people who own DS and PSP i think agree *for the most bit* and so do the cridics.

[Condas]

No comment


i have psp
i have 360
getting wii and Ds

Selling xbox on ebay (+7 games) (Pm me if you're interested)

so im not voteing i refuse

[NikeVapours]

Sony make the best consoles always, end of, full stop.

[HUGECOOL]

Sorry but i have no idea where you are comming from. The DS has NO features that can compare to the PSP. The only thing the DS has which is better is the touch screen.

The PSP screen is 2x - 3x bigger for a start. The DS has 2. The DS Lite's screens are brighter than the PSP's. Proven.


The PSP also doubbles as a MP3 player.Requires the seperate purchase of a medium to store said MP3s, thereby, increasing the cost of the PSP.

It also plays Movies *which i supose the DS can but they are only cartoons* The DS is able to play movies as well, but you'll need to purchase a seprate apparatus, which will still make the value of the DS cheaper than a gameless PSP. And honestly, who will be watching movies on the street? "/


The PSP has a analog and directional pad. Also it has a very good sound system built in for two small speakers. The Analog nub by itself is annoying to use and doesn't provide the same experience as with a PS2, which is what the PSP was made to emulate, but has had no real success in.


The PSP also has a lot more games and a bigger varity of them.
Also if you didn't know Sony Reccords is planning to start relecing UMD Music CD's of their artists. Yes, it does have more games, but how many of those games are actually worth playing? While the DS' game library may not be as large, the quality of the games is a whole lot better. Don't take my word for it though, ask anyone who's played a DS game, especially the online ones.

And if you didn't know, the UMD has become another one of Sony's ideas gone wrong. Not only are major retail stores pulling them out of shelves, but PSP customers themselves have found them to be useless.


The online play has no comparison between the PSP and the DS. The PSP has better online games and the graphics are a lot better online.
You can also view web pages on the PSP and listen to shoutcast and podcast's. You're right in one part; there is no comparison needed to see which is better since it was declared by major game websites that the DS' online play is revolutionary. I'm unsure of the figures, but I do remember many websites saying Nintendo WiFi had as many online connections in 6 months as Xbox Live had in a little over a year. PSP's online play is not really talked about, so your arguement here deserves an eye-brow raise. Also, the DS is getting the Opera Browser if you didn't know, which will come with a memory pack to avoid the issues the PSP has when accessing the Internet.


And how has it changed the game industry? With a touch screen? Whoopie... its a touch screen OMG! *****zess*
Lol Alctually, yes, it has. By providing gamers with a more intuative way of inputting controls, the DS has managed to expand the gamer's age range and at the same time provide users with little or no knowledge of video games with a way to play. Health experts have also commented on how the DS has very much helped in the medical field with patients suffering from memory problems.

The PSP, however, hasn't.


The PSP also out sold the DS at christmas time for gifts. The PSP made 4th on the charts for top gifts... Where was the DS?
Let me see... It didn't even make the list.
And which Christmas list would that be?

Your Christmas list? ;)


So in the end the PSP is better:) Hands down, no comp.
The people who own DS and PSP i think agree *for the most bit* and so do the cridics. 'Critics' don't agree, actually. But if you're referring to Sony Fanboys as critics, then I suppose they'd have to agree, or Ken will attack them with a giant crab.

You also failed to mention loading times, which is an issue with the PSP. The number one rule of handhelds is that any moving parts will move. This is one of the reasons MP3 players are better than CD Players. UMDs in the PSP are moveable and will shake around from time to time, causing the game to malfunction. Also, because On-The-Go gaming is a must for handhelds, the PSP is not one to brag about. The Nintendo DS uses game cards with no moving parts and little to no loading times, making it ideal for anyone wanting to play a quick game when out.

Tell me, how long does it take before your PSP needs to be charged? Not much- around 2 hours or so depending on what you're using it for. The DS, however, can last for days or even weeks without charging. A helpful feature is that when you close the DS' screens, it will automaticlaly go into power save mode and you can litterally leave the game powered on for days and you'll be able to continue your game form where you left off. The PSP, however, consumes power when accessing data from a UMD, when accessing data from a Memory Stick, if the screen is set to brightest setting, while watching movies, when listening to MP3s, and also when going online. While the DS also accesses games and goes online, the power consumed is almost a fraction of that.

[Bear-Max]

Sorry but i have no idea where you are comming from. The DS has NO features that can compare to the PSP. The only thing the DS has which is better is the touch screen.

The PSP screen is 2x - 3x bigger for a start.
The PSP also doubbles as a MP3 player. It also plays Movies *which i supose the DS can but they are only cartoons*
The PSP has a analog and directional pad. Also it has a very good sound system built in for two small speakers.

The PSP also has a lot more games and a bigger varity of them.
Also if you didn't know Sony Reccords is planning to start relecing UMD Music CD's of their artists.

The online play has no comparison between the PSP and the DS. The PSP has better online games and the graphics are a lot better online.
You can also view web pages on the PSP and listen to shoutcast and podcast's.

And how has it changed the game industry? With a touch screen? Whoopie... its a touch screen OMG! *****zess*
Lol

The PSP also out sold the DS at christmas time for gifts. The PSP made 4th on the charts for top gifts... Where was the DS?
Let me see... It didn't even make the list.

So in the end the PSP is better:) Hands down, no comp.
The people who own DS and PSP i think agree *for the most bit* and so do the cridics.
I do know where I'm coming from. I own both a PSP and a DS and my DS gets the most use.

Firstly, saying the DS has "no features that can compare to the PSP" is just stupid. Let's go through all the "rad" features of the PSP and see how many are actually useful:

Gaming: This is what should be most important, right? The PSP does have some good games; I've especially enjoyed GTA: LCS and Daxter, but there's just not much more beyond that. There are definately a lot of games for the system, it's just that not many are worth playing and/or are just lazy ports from the PS2. It's a shame that PSP fanboys like yourself go around bashing the DS at how it "doesn't have all the features the PSP does", because you just make people think ill of the PSP even more.

MP3 Player: Let's face it, almost everyone has an iPod or some other MP3 player these days. Why on earth do you need to shell out £180 for a system, then another £50 for a memory stick that will hold a decent amount of tracks when you can just get a regular MP3 player? Who on earth in going to want to carry around a PSP for music? It's much too big to be truly portable. People want small, and they want it now. It's why the iPod Nano has been such a success.

UMD Movies: Aside from the awful sales figures (resulting in companies such as Universal announce that they won't be releasing as many of their films on UMD from now on) and the ridiculous price tag (£18-20 RRP is just ludicrous), I guess I don't see much wrong with the movies. They're great for a long car journey, but are you seriously ever going to get into 'The Matrix' while on the bus? I don't think so.

Widescreen: Yes, it's very pretty. I've nothing against the widescreen, the PSP actually makes good use of it. But the DS screens are equally as valuable. It's not the screen you watch it on, it's the games you play on them that count.

Online gaming: I'm sorry but the DS is much more popular for online gaming than the PSP. Games such as Animal Crossing and Mario Kart have been the contributing factors that have had 1 million individual people sign up for DS Wi-Fi in the space of 6 months.

Internet browser: The PSP has an internet browser made by Sony (who I'm guessing have never made a web-browser before). The DS is getting a browser made by internet giants Opera.

Analogue stick: It would be a nice feature if it was positioned somewhere that wasn't so uncomfortable that it seriously goes against the laws of ergonomics.

As I said, the DS is a true gaming system, ie. it's main function is games. And they're damned good ones too: Mario Kart DS, Metroid Prime: Hunters, Animal Crossing DS, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Trauma Centre: Under the Knife, Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time, Nintendogs, WarioWare, Super Mario 64, Brain Training, New Super Mario Brothers, Advanced Wars DS, and there's more. There certainly aren't as many stellar and memorable games for the PSP (even if you include ports from the PS2).

My main gripe with the PSP (and this has been said by Ken Kutarugi, I think) is that the console is primarily for home use. I can't for the life of me see why I'd want to play a game on my PSP that I could just as easily go out and buy for the PSP. Never mind wide screen, I can play on a TV screen.

Nintendo have actually put a bit of thought in and come up with something new. All of the games use the DS and its touchscreen in so many different ways, it has had an effect on gaming. More non-gamers are getting involved, and that's meant more money being poured into the growing industry. New game genres have been created by the Brain Training games, and everything from Real Time Strategies to First Person Shooters have been done on the system.

In terms of worldwide console sales, the DS really has whipped the PSP. The release of the DS Lite is furthering the gap - in America alone the DS sold 136 000 units in two days. It's extraordinary. In Japan the DS is outselling every other system under the sun.

I enjoy both consoles, but I think the main message of this post is that the DS has a lot more to offer as a games system. The PSP is a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Edit: ^Fyta types faster than me :p

[HUGECOOL]

Edit: ^Fyta types faster than me :p
lol xD

I had so many mistakes though. Had to edit like 8 times. xP

[Placeeee]

Lol every thread I see about ps2 vs xbox there's loads of people crying over which is best.
People buy the consoles that suit them.. *Yawn*
I bought a ps2 years ago but I rarely play it now, the last game I got was pro evo for Christmas.
I only really play on my psp now which for me is perfect because you can play it anywhere, my sister has a ds which seems cool but for me i'd much rather have a psp.

[JonJon]

Sorry but i have no idea where you are comming from. The DS has NO features that can compare to the PSP. The only thing the DS has which is better is the touch screen.

The PSP screen is 2x - 3x bigger for a start.
The PSP also doubbles as a MP3 player. It also plays Movies *which i supose the DS can but they are only cartoons*
The PSP has a analog and directional pad. Also it has a very good sound system built in for two small speakers.

The PSP also has a lot more games and a bigger varity of them.
Also if you didn't know Sony Reccords is planning to start relecing UMD Music CD's of their artists.

The online play has no comparison between the PSP and the DS. The PSP has better online games and the graphics are a lot better online.
You can also view web pages on the PSP and listen to shoutcast and podcast's.

And how has it changed the game industry? With a touch screen? Whoopie... its a touch screen OMG! *****zess*
Lol

The PSP also out sold the DS at christmas time for gifts. The PSP made 4th on the charts for top gifts... Where was the DS?
Let me see... It didn't even make the list.

So in the end the PSP is better:) Hands down, no comp.
The people who own DS and PSP i think agree *for the most bit* and so do the cridics.

I'm usually true to PS. But the PSP is just too much of an effort. Really, it's just a multimedia device, rather than a games console. And just like a portable PS2 with worse graphics.... the DS, yes, poor graphics, but simply, a games console. PSP only wins because all the extras that have nothing to do with games. If it was just the PSP console ITSELF and the DS, I'm sure the DS would win.

[Placeeee]

All I do on my psp is play games, I don't have any music, videos or pictures.
Still use the basic 32mb memory card :P

Question about the DS:
Can you get normal games that you can buy for the xbox/ps2?
When ever I look all I can see is mario games and some dog games..
Or is this because the DS is aimed at younger people?

[HUGECOOL]

All I do on my psp is play games, I don't have any music, videos or pictures.
Still use the basic 32mb memory card :P

Question about the DS:
Can you get normal games that you can buy for the xbox/ps2?
When ever I look all I can see is mario games and some dog games..
Or is this because the DS is aimed at younger people? There are some titles available that don't require much touch screen functionality, but the majority of the games are Nintendo DS exclusive, so they're not available anywhere else. The PSP was made to have titles such as those on the PS2 because that's what it is, a portable Playstation. (Well, to an extent, really.)

This is a common misconception of the casual gamer who looks at a game with a cartoon style or dogs and immediately draw to the conclusion that it is aimed at a younger audience.

To put it shortly, no, the games aren't aimed at younger audience. The whole idea of the DS revolves around expanding the gaming audience by providing game titles that have almost universal themes to them. Nintendogs has been an extremely successful game and has increased the gaming audience by attracting more female players to gaming and even older people as well. Another big hit is Brain Training. Although it may not sound fun, you have to try games to see for yourself. Most casuals look at the graphics of a game and decide from there if the game is good or not, even though this is a very, very poor way of judging.

[Bear-Max]

As Fyta said, I wouldn't consider the DS as a "kiddy" machine at all. The games cater for all ages, as well as for men and women. I think that's been the DS's biggest success - it appeals to everyone.

As for exclusive titles, that's why everyone should own a DS: it has a whole host of games that cannot be played anywhere else.

[Frodo13.]

I have both a PSP and a DS. Both of them have individual qualities that make them both as good. But I really dont like Xbox.

[Condas]

im now putting my vote on nintendo :]

[Sony.Com]

wow loading time... and no, i own a psp and the loading time is almost nothing. And how big are the DS lite screens?

And so what a touch screen, its not all its cracked up to be.

I also find the shape of the DS hard to hold in my hand. not sure if its just me but yeh...

And if ur not sure of the numbers about the online play don't post.
I am not doubting it is wrong because microsoft charges money.
But PS2 is the most widly used online for gaming.

[HUGECOOL]

wow loading time... and no, i own a psp and the loading time is almost nothing. And how big are the DS lite screens?

And so what a touch screen, its not all its cracked up to be.

I also find the shape of the DS hard to hold in my hand. not sure if its just me but yeh...

And if ur not sure of the numbers about the online play don't post.
I am not doubting it is wrong because microsoft charges money.
But PS2 is the most widly used online for gaming. PSP: 170x74x23 (mm), 289cm3
DS: 149x85x29, 367cm3
DS Lite: 133x74x22, 217cm3

The PSP, I think, is criticized for size because it has the largest single dimension of any of the handhelds, and that makes it look larger visually. I suspect also that the hinged aspect of the DS makes its width seem more appropriate, whereas the PSP, though thinner, seems like a solid thick brick.

How about actually playing a DS title, then telling the gaming community that the touch screen isn't 'all its cracked up to be.' And complaining that the DS has cartoon graphics which mean its kiddy is no valid argument either. With that logic, Hentai would be kiddy because it has cartoon graphics and its not realistic. :eusa_clap

Actually, what I said was I was unsure about the figures (a.k.a Numbers), but I know for a fact that the DS's online play grew extremely rapidly. And why shouldn't I post? I post facts, supported by people that critique gadgets for a living. You posted your own opinions. Stop and think, it helps.

No, the PS2 isn't most widely used for online gaming- it's computers. :rolleyes: The PS2's online is a joke- Xbox Live is worth the money.

Accept the fact that the DS is better than the PSP. Sony has.

[Sony.Com]

Meh,
If the DS was better why would nintendo need to come out with the DS Lite to try and take the buyers from sony to nintendo?

Sony stole the market away from nintendo and they have it wrapted around their finger with hand held units.

And I have played Ds games, ive used my bros DS. Myself I don't like it.
The games arnt as good as the one i have on the PSP.
The DS lacks in graphics that the PSP has, now THAT is a fact not some opnion.

[Billay]

Meh,
If the DS was better why would nintendo need to come out with the DS Lite to try and take the buyers from sony to nintendo?

Sony stole the market away from nintendo and they have it wrapted around their finger with hand held units.

And I have played Ds games, ive used my bros DS. Myself I don't like it.
The games arnt as good as the one i have on the PSP.
The DS lacks in graphics that the PSP has, now THAT is a fact not some opnion.

i totally agree with you, but you guys need to chill with all this PSP VS DS cr'ap. seriously its just what you prefer.

[HUGECOOL]

Meh,
If the DS was better why would nintendo need to come out with the DS Lite to try and take the buyers from sony to nintendo?
o_O The DS already had the market. The DS Lite was made to expand it by reaching buyers who disliked the original DS' aesthetics. And why companies would want to take away customers from another company? Profit! I thought this was logical.


Sony stole the market away from nintendo and they have it wrapted around their finger with hand held units.
Nope. Nintendo still owns the handheld market, actually. While Sony promote the PSP as a gaming handheld, the reality of it is that it isn't competing with the Nintendo DS, no no, lol. It's competing with every other multimedia handheld out there, iPod Videos included. Sony does not paly nice with Apple, or Nintendo, and they wanted to make a product that would wipe them out at the same time. Clever, yes. Reality, no. The iPod still continues to be a very successful MP3/video player and the Nintendo DS is still dominating the gaming handheld market.


And I have played Ds games, ive used my bros DS. Myself I don't like it.
The games arnt as good as the one i have on the PSP.
It depends which games you played, really. Like I said before, online games offer the most for your money.


The DS lacks in graphics that the PSP has, now THAT is a fact not some opnion.
Like I said before: With that logic, you'd call Hentai kiddy because its made with cartoon graphics and does not look realistic.



@ Billay

I'm well aware its one's own decisions, but I am merely correcting facts that seem to not be very truthful rather than biased. Plus, I'm bored. x]

[Place:P]

I'm well aware its one's own decisions, but I am merely correcting facts that seem to not be very truthful rather than biased. Plus, I'm bored. x]


You take all this to seriously, why do you quote everyone that says something good about the psp and try and prove them wrong?
People buy what they think suits them, Like if I was still intrested in games like pokemon and mario that I probably would of liked when I was 10 I would buy a DS but I bought a psp because it has games I enjoy. Also has good graphics in my opinion for a handheld console.

[Bear-Max]

Meh,
If the DS was better why would nintendo need to come out with the DS Lite to try and take the buyers from sony to nintendo?

Sony stole the market away from nintendo and they have it wrapted around their finger with hand held units.

And I have played Ds games, ive used my bros DS. Myself I don't like it.
The games arnt as good as the one i have on the PSP.
The DS lacks in graphics that the PSP has, now THAT is a fact not some opnion.

"As Fyta has said" is becoming common in my posts, but I'm going to have to say it again :P

Anyway, as he said, the PSP in no way has the handheld market wrapped around its (rather chunky) finger. The DS is a few million units ahead in Japan, which is a lot when it comes to systems. The battle is a bit closer in the US and UK, but the DS is still largely on top.

As for why Nintendo would release the DS Lite, why don't we apply that question to another example or two:

Why did Sony release the PS2 Slimline?
Why did Apple release the iPod Nano?

Both are market leaders, and both have the same answer: to make money, and appeal to a wider demographic.

[Sony.Com]

Well actualy sony releced the PS2 slim line as a step down from the PSP, seeing if everything would fit in it and all...

[HUGECOOL]

You take all this to seriously, why do you quote everyone that says something good about the psp and try and prove them wrong?
People buy what they think suits them, Like if I was still intrested in games like pokemon and mario that I probably would of liked when I was 10 I would buy a DS but I bought a psp because it has games I enjoy. Also has good graphics in my opinion for a handheld console. I quote them so it'll be convenient for readers to find the post to which I was making a rebuttal for, but that's besides the point. I wouldn't have to prove them wrong if what they were saying was true, now would I?

You see, because people, especially company loyalists (fanboys) defend a company's products with their eyes closed, they tend to follow the same trend and believe the same false content. For example, many people tend to label the Nintendo DS as 'kiddy' without knowing how to support their argument. If you are one of those people, I have two words for you: Loco Roco. But I digress...

Things that are fun aren't necessarily the best looking. Take flash games for example. The majority are horribly drawn and still manage to be Internet favorites. There is a difference between kiddy and childish games. Childish games are games like GTA that involve nothing but killing and senseless violence from point A to point B. Kiddy games are games for kids like Elmo's ABC's and Sesame Street Land. Most PSP fanboys got a PSP solely because they were afraid to be called kiddy. If you cared so much about your image, then you would stop playing games entirely, get a job, and stop mooching off your parents.

The PSP is losing, and no amount of excuses will save it's pathetic deficit.

Game, set, match.

[Bear-Max]

Well actualy sony releced the PS2 slim line as a step down from the PSP, seeing if everything would fit in it and all...

No, it really wasn't.

[Sarah.]

Online play - Nintendo
Next Generation - Nintendo
Hand Held - Nintendo
Graphics - Microsoft

^ What he said :D ^

[Matt.]

Have to be playstation for me :P But the nintendo has VERY good games like the mario games! I love them =].

[jordybumz!]

Yeah whatever Fyta and Bear-Max said. Completely true :]

[Sony.Com]

Actualy YES it is true that the PS2 slim line was to prepare for the PSP...

[HUGECOOL]

Actualy YES it is true that the PS2 slim line was to prepare for the PSP...
lol Goodness at the ignorance.

So, what you're saying is..

- Sony made the PS2 slimline for the sole purpose of experimenrtation for the Playstation Portable. (Even though said expereimentation could have been done WITHOUT selling the actual console.)
- You're denying Sony made the slimline for the sole purpose of profit since the market was strong when the console was released.

Next time you post bring sources, because obviously, you don't even know what you're saying.

[Bear-Max]

Where do you get all this nonsense from?

People's main criticism of the Xbox was that it was too large. Sony capitalised on this by releasing the slimline PS2. The slimline has no resemblance to the PSP in any way; the PSP uses totally different media to play games, and also has a drastically different interface. Besides, the slimline PS2 is still 4 or 5 times bigger than the PSP.

Sony did the same thing to the original PlayStation when they redesigned it to be smaller and released it as the PSone.

[.:Subarusti:.]

Sony's hit rock bottom, soz. Microsoft is cool, but Nintendo is best.

BTW: It should be,
Microsoft
Sony
Nintendo

NOT

Xbox
Playstation
Nintendo

What he said, after the PSPoop they started goin waaaay downhill, and the PS3 doesnt look to good, my 360 is pretty good but its built quality is poor, the usb flap thing is broken and my controller broke, but microsoft gave me some free ones!