Green Day - Love 'em or Hate 'em

[~Hilton~]

No, it's not some new emo-esuqe song or album. (I'm not calling Green Day emo)


Now, you may not like Green Day or Billie Joe. But this video is really freaking great.


*may have to download it, its only a 1:32 video though.

http://weakgame.com/media_9898_Green_Day_Drop_Kick.html

[kooldude23]

I think i speak on behalf of the users who use the Music forum because every time green day has come up EVERYONE has said the the old is better than the new.

[FlyingJesus]

Before seeing that video: Thought they were a bunch of idiots who disgraced the word "punk"

After seeing that video: Now think they've an even bigger bunch of idiots who disgrace the word "punk" several times over.

[~Hilton~]

I think i speak on behalf of the users who use the Music forum because every time green day has come up EVERYONE has said the the old is better than the new.
I really hate people who are like that. The new cd is not THAT different. Apparently Green Day have just become too popular to like. And I ******* hate it when if you say you like Green Day to someone they automatically assume: "YOU ONLY LIKE AMERICAN IDIOT YOU NOT A TRUE FAN lolllllol roflll YOU WATCH 2 MUCH MTV"

Or something like that.






Before seeing that video: Thought they were a bunch of idiots who disgraced the word "punk"

After seeing that video: Now think they've an even bigger bunch of idiots who disgrace the word "punk" several times over.

Interesting seeing as they are more punk than most mainstream bands of nowadays. Got their start in East Bay / Gilman Street, like many other true punk bands. Sure, they arent 100% punk like older bands but I hate people that say **** like that.

EternalMasque (Forum Moderator) Please dont avoid the filter.

[kooldude23]

I didnt say that, i am not saying that people are not true fans or whatever, i personally am angry at Green Day for allowung there music to become mainstream.

What ever that mohawk guy did must have been pretty bad...

[Juicette]

I hate Green Day. They suck. They're old too.

[~Hilton~]

How is **** and *******, avoiding the filter... That's grade A moderation right there.

Wayne. (Super Moderator) Please stay on topic.
EternalMasque (Forum Moderator) Please don't avoid the filter.

[RedStratocas]

Egh. Everyone is getting out of hand.

Yes, Green Day's old stuff was better, but honestly, I cant blame them for changing. You need to change when you have been around for so long. There are only so many songs about jacking off, getting dumped and being lazy that you could possibly sing. Sure, I dont listen to new green day (and I hate those who didnt even know they were a band before AI) but I can actually respect what they are doing. I dont recall them ever even saying their new stuff is punk anyway, not that it matters because argueing what genre something is is stupid. Dookie will always be their best album, and my favorite album, but they still deserve to be around. Target your anger twards radio which has American Idiot on repeat 24 hours a day. Twards the kids who arent even aware there is pre-american idiot material yet still claim they are huge fans. Not twards people who just plain like them.

By the way, musicians get mad at stupid fans all the time. I saw on youtube Thom Yorke saying to an excesivly screaming woman 'shut up you stupid **** right in the middle of a song-- and just kept singing.

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[HUGECOOL]

Hate Greenday. Overplayed, overrated.

[Cyvox]

Greenday are nothing but a bunch of sell outs.
They used to be an amazing pop punk band.
New album.. They totally changed their style of music to fit in with the current
scene/craze purely for profit. They didnt really care that they would lose a lot of fans..

[Sly]

Their old stuff was better.

New stuff is, rubbish.

I prefer to listen to good music.

[Craig]

Interesting seeing as they are more punk than most mainstream bands of nowadays. Got their start in East Bay / Gilman Street, like many other true punk bands. Sure, they arent 100% punk like older bands but I hate people that say **** like that.

EternalMasque (Forum Moderator) Please dont avoid the filter.

No they're not flipping punk. Punk bands don't even try to be mainstream anyway and barely are cos not many people like punk. They certainly aren't any more punk than Rancid or NOFX and neither of them are mainstream either. They are not true punk or even part punk anymore. Yes their older stuff is better and a bit more punk but they lost that touch.

[FlyingJesus]

Interesting seeing as they are more punk than most mainstream bands of nowadays. Got their start in East Bay / Gilman Street, like many other true punk bands. Sure, they arent 100% punk like older bands but I hate people that say **** like that.

Way to make yourself look stupid. Nice to know also that you'll "hate" me for saying that Green Day are a disgrace to punk.

Green Day are not in the slightest bit punk. The only connection to punk that they have is that they use very simple riffs, but they don't look or sound punk at all. I'm not bothered about them going mainstream, as I'd probably do the same if it would get me a load of money, what gets me is that they call themselves punk or punk-rock when they're blatantly pop-rock. Damned ugly too.

[Climax]

Egh. Everyone is getting out of hand.

Yes, Green Day's old stuff was better, but honestly, I cant blame them for changing. You need to change when you have been around for so long. There are only so many songs about jacking off, getting dumped and being lazy that you could possibly sing. Sure, I dont listen to new green day (and I hate those who didnt even know they were a band before AI) but I can actually respect what they are doing. I dont recall them ever even saying their new stuff is punk anyway, not that it matters because argueing what genre something is is stupid. Dookie will always be their best album, and my favorite album, but they still deserve to be around. Target your anger twards radio which has American Idiot on repeat 24 hours a day. Twards the kids who arent even aware there is pre-american idiot material yet still claim they are huge fans. Not twards people who just plain like them.

By the way, musicians get mad at stupid fans all the time. I saw on youtube Thom Yorke saying to an excesivly screaming woman 'shut up you stupid c**t' right in the middle of a song-- and just kept singing.
I agree with Sam, as I do on most musical issues :]

[:dallsgreen]

I like their old stuff, new stuff way too overplayed and way too garbage.

[~Hilton~]

I could go on for hours arguing with some of you, but honestly, you think you're right, I think I'm right so...

[cocaine]

Before seeing that video: Thought they were a bunch of idiots who disgraced the word "punk"

After seeing that video: Now think they've an even bigger bunch of idiots who disgrace the word "punk" several times over.

Have you actually taken the time to listen to them, and to explore the message they are trying to give out to us? I bet you haven't actually bothered to listen to them, I was the same, then I got into it a lot more ¬_¬

EDIT: Oh, and btw, notice how someone says 'Their old stuff was better, new stuff is rubbish' and someone else says it -.-


green day has come up EVERYONE has said the the old is better than the new.



Their old stuff was better.

New stuff is, rubbish.


Yes, Green Day's old stuff was better


I like their old stuff, new stuff way too overplayed

Way to fit in with the crowd dudes :cool_blue

[RedStratocas]

EDIT: Oh, and btw, notice how someone says 'Their old stuff was better, new stuff is rubbish' and someone else says it -.-

Because it's true. Its not like one person thought theyre old stuff was better and everyone followed-- everyone knows. Dookie is one of the greatest albums ever, and thats not even just me saying it, even music critics think so.

[Halting]

I like them for the music and not who they are. Why can't they just be musicians and not put into groups like emo or goth or chav.

[Jim Rotates]

i never was fond of them, even pre-american idiot. they are okay. longview and hitchin' a ride are genius.

[Climax]

I like them for the music and not who they are. Why can't they just be musicians and not put into groups like emo or goth or chav.
Because that doesn't sell records.

[kooldude23]

Well, we will see if there new album gives them justice.

[RedStratocas]

Well, we will see if there new album gives them justice.

I dont think theyll be coming out with anything new for a while

[kooldude23]

I heard it is still in planning but they are releasing an album sometime soon, ill look around and see where i saw it.

[Cyvox]

They better be going back to how they were

[Ryan+Joe]

simply - hate em. [:

[FlyingJesus]

Have you actually taken the time to listen to them, and to explore the message they are trying to give out to us?

That old men can pretend to be rebels too?
That it's cool to hate the government?
That you don't need to be able to play an instrument well to get money from it?
That certain fans take music too seriously?

[Victimized]

I don't like them because i just don't think their music is very creative or different from anything else, okay they are spreading a different message but all their songs are simple and boring power-chords. And the solo's suck so badly.

[RedStratocas]

That you don't need to be able to play an instrument well to get money from it?

That ones true.


I don't like them because i just don't think their music is very creative or different from anything else, okay they are spreading a different message but all their songs are simple and boring power-chords. And the solo's suck so badly.

They have solos? I know there is one in When I Come Around, but I havent heard any others

I dont get why everyone thinks that every song needs to have an awesome solo, or even good guitar riffs at all. If you don't make a song with amazing guitar, then you just need to find another way to make it good. I dont see whats so bad about that.

[Victimized]

I mean on the American Idiot album, they have solo's but they are really no different to the main riff.

[FlyingJesus]

The best solos are ones that simply play the melody in my opinion, with a few twists here and there. The only band I like that play big complicated solos is DragonForce, simply because I find that their 8 minute solos are hilarious.

[RedStratocas]

The best solos are ones that simply play the melody in my opinion, with a few twists here and there. The only band I like that play big complicated solos is DragonForce, simply because I find that their 8 minute solos are hilarious.

Ugh, someone I know listenes to japanese metal bands. Dont get me wrong, they are great musicians, but EVERY SONG SOUNDS THE SAME. Its uninteresting and unoriginal, and quite frankly, it reminds me of the background music in the old Sonic Genisis games.

[Victimized]

This is going off topic but my favourite solo is probably Coheed & Cambria's Welcome Home, :eusa_drool

[FlyingJesus]

Ugh, someone I know listenes to japanese metal bands. Dont get me wrong, they are great musicians, but EVERY SONG SOUNDS THE SAME. Its uninteresting and unoriginal, and quite frankly, it reminds me of the background music in the old Sonic Genisis games.

Yeah I listen to it whilst playing Diablo, makes good questing music but not a lot else ^_^

[RedStratocas]

This is going off topic but my favourite solo is probably Coheed & Cambria's Welcome Home, :eusa_drool

Love Welcome Home, but nothing else by C&C. I have heard it all, my brother loves them. Good musician, but I can't stand the guy's voice.

[Liberation]

To Be honist, Couple of months ago i really liked them and there music etc. But now there are more great and new bands with evan better music. Greenday are now kinda in the past for most people as there music hasnt got what people want now compared to what other bands give.
Thats just a opinion

[RedStratocas]

To Be honist, Couple of months ago i really liked them and there music etc. But now there are more great and new bands with evan better music. Greenday are now kinda in the past for most people as there music hasnt got what people want now compared to what other bands give.
Thats just a opinion

What people want now? Music hasent changed. They just havent come out with another record since American Idiot:P Once they do, Green Day will be all the rage again.

[Sony.Com]

Hate Greenday. Overplayed, overrated.

I agree 100%.. I can't stand them and their songs are VERY over played. They are also cowards.. (referring to them dissing all other bands issue a while back)
And they are VERY over rated..