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edible
06-07-2006, 01:27 PM
Im really worried about my friend Sarah who you may know ;[
She wants to commit suicide and i think she's trying now from what she's said,, she's slitting her wrists.. Im crying. I really dont want her to die
I REALLY REALLY REALLY DONT</3

What should i say and do.
Im going away and she might be dead when i get back ;[
HELP Me i literally crying ;[
Vicks!

Ostinato (Forum Moderator) Thread closed.

Lyca
06-07-2006, 01:32 PM
Tell your parents so they can tell hers, comfort her and talk it over with her and see what has gone wrong and tell her ways to make it better or get over something , if her mind is %100 made up and she is going to go forward with it tell her parents or maybe police.
If her l;ife is miserable how over sad you may get then maybe klet her go through with it , if she sees no reason to live and is not happy and she waants her life over then maybe just let her, its her life choice

SHEEPY_luvs_u
06-07-2006, 01:34 PM
*plays violin*

Craig
06-07-2006, 01:44 PM
When people commit suicide it's usually for a few reasons;

1) Because they've had such a bad life and it's too much to go on.
But this is flawed because people have great lives over here in comparison to 3rd world countries. If it's -Illusions well she has a computer infront of her - I don't see many Africans with one of those infront of them ;/ Especially considering they can barely afford food let alone education or a luxury like the computer. Some people really don't know what they have and take it for granted. Tell you what would be a fairly alrite reason to commit suicide - Being raped/molested as a child and becoming traumatised. Not that the person should commit suicide but that is a really bad thing to happen to someone =/ Sick people that commit these crimes should get life. But getting bullied or whatever isn't much of a reason to commit suicide. Your in school at minimum of 16. Once your out at 16 you can go to college where you don't know anyone and make loads of friends and get rid of the bullies. Sure bullying is bad but heck people could have it much worse "/ I mean come on, it's not like we're starving or something. Plus I see it in the perspective that no matter how bad our lives are now when we reach 18[which is like 2-5 years for most] we can do what we want to change our life for the best.

2) People also do it for attention.
This is often because people may be not the focus of attention anymore or are simply looking for more attention as they crave it.

3) It's also done for care -
People want more care from their parents/friends and to accomplish this they will resort to pretending to commit suicide or even attempting it. By attempting it they will receive immense care and be extremely well looked after by friends/family if they feel they need some extra attention.

What you need to do is work out if any of your friend is in that case and just follow procedures as normal.

Most people that commit suicide wouldn't bother telling anyone unless it's left in a note before the attempt, let alone on MSN or whatever. I'd geuss that your friend made this up in a desperate bid for attention, and you may be going along with this by posting it on a forum or again may not. I sure as heck know my friends aren't attention seekers from what they have gone through and the brave face they put on and talked to me about it and if they were to commit suicide I know for a fact that I wouldn't post it on a forum asking for help but hurry the hell over to their house and run as fast as possible or whatever making sure I took my mobile phone if needed.

I would make my reply more in depth but I really am busy at the moment.

princessstacy27
06-07-2006, 02:10 PM
Im new to habbox forum, but i hope my advice helps since im kind of experienced. Craigs right, plus if she was going to commit suicide, why would she tell anyone? She would just get it over with and die. Probably for attention. But then again, it could be for real. Did she show any signs it wasnt for attention? I would tell her parents, or get in contact with the police. Because no matter how much a person looks happy, they could be putting a smile on to make others think they are fine. Tell her parents/guardians, call her, im not entirely sure you know her in real life, but it says your cousins on your signature... if she is online when your back, hopefully she will be, i see she is inactive at the moment, but she could just be watching TV, talk too her, and tell her you were crying, and how scary it must of been? Did she show any signs of suicidal thoughts before this incident? If so, you should try persuading her to speak too someone who can help her, if she has had previous help, tell her, not ask, tell her that their is always someone who can help, no matter how much they disbelieve that. Your probably pretty shaken up, if she is not on in a day or two, i advise calling the police, because she could of been serious. I hope she didnt do it, ill be praying for her, and thinking of her. Of course no one wants anyone too die, if they do, they are sick in the head, because thats seriously wrong too want someone too die. I hope your ok though, if your the only one she told, she should listen too you, shes probably reconsidering it, well the probably is always their, so dont keep your hopes up, she could of commited suicide by now, but thats just a 50/50 chance. I hope she is ok, and i hope you are ok aswell, just keep hoping, she may just need time too relax, and calm down. Thats sometimes the case. I hope i helped, goodluck, and im praying as i said.

Nixt
06-07-2006, 02:16 PM
People also do it for attention.

Self harm maybe a form of attention seeking, suicide is definitely not! One may slash their wrists or arms in order for people to fuss over them; but actual suicide is far more serious and must be taken very seriously.
Do not assume that your friend is attention seeking (although she may be), if you have tried to talk to her then you have to do the right thing and tell her parents. Or maybe it is because of her parents she wants to do it (?) If so, you must still tell someone, perhaps social services? But it boils down to the fact someone has to be told, so they can help her before it gets out of hand.


And to the others, she has asked for help, so regardless of your opinions, give her some help or don't bother posting!

Vibe
06-07-2006, 02:17 PM
tell her to not do it :(

princessstacy27
06-07-2006, 02:21 PM
Self harm maybe a form of attention seeking, suicide is definitely not! One may slash their wrists or arms in order for people to fuss over them; but actual suicide is far more serious and must be taken very seriously.
Do not assume that your friend is attention seeking (although she may be), if you have tried to talk to her then you have to do the right thing and tell her parents. Or maybe it is because of her parents she wants to do it (?) If so, you must still tell someone, perhaps social services? But it boils down to the fact someone has to be told, so they can help her before it gets out of hand.


And to the others, she has asked for help, so regardless of your opinions, give her some help or don't bother posting!

I was giving her advice if your on about me.
Suicide is too be taken seriously, but only sometimes it is seeking attention. Im just curious, who is this on habbox forum? Im assuming its -illusions since Craig mentioned her... its just so i could PM her and offer her a bit of advice myself.

tbh imo no m8
06-07-2006, 02:21 PM
Vicks please try and stop her. And sarah if ya reading. There is such a thing as Love at first site.

Craig
06-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Self harm maybe a form of attention seeking, suicide is definitely not! One may slash their wrists or arms in order for people to fuss over them; but actual suicide is far more serious and must be taken very seriously.
Do not assume that your friend is attention seeking (although she may be), if you have tried to talk to her then you have to do the right thing and tell her parents. Or maybe it is because of her parents she wants to do it (?) If so, you must still tell someone, perhaps social services? But it boils down to the fact someone has to be told, so they can help her before it gets out of hand.


And to the others, she has asked for help, so regardless of your opinions, give her some help or don't bother posting!

=/ People don't always commit suicide when they say they will "/ It is often said for attention so your the number 1 focus because your going through a rough patch or you just want the attention. If I was going to commit suicide would I just quickly pop on msn and sign in and say to one of my friends 'Oh I'm going to kill myself now, kfnxbye'
No I blatantly wouldn't commit suicide and I wouldn't be as so stupid as to stage the thing by going on msn and saying that.

princessstacy27
06-07-2006, 02:26 PM
=/ People don't always commit suicide when they say they will "/ It is often said for attention so your the number 1 focus because your going through a rough patch or you just want the attention. If I was going to commit suicide would I just quickly pop on msn and sign in and say to one of my friends 'Oh I'm going to kill myself now, kfnxbye'
No I blatantly wouldn't commit suicide and I wouldn't be as so stupid as to stage the thing by going on msn and saying that.

He has a good point.
But then again, she could of just wanted her closest friend(s) to know she was doing it so they would know if she succeeded? I do not know, but i do hope she wasnt serious.

Craig
06-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Well if I was ever to commit suicide I would write a huge long letter, not sign in on MSN.
Again I would never commit suicide.

Nixt
06-07-2006, 02:34 PM
=/ People don't always commit suicide when they say they will "/ It is often said for attention so your the number 1 focus because your going through a rough patch or you just want the attention. If I was going to commit suicide would I just quickly pop on msn and sign in and say to one of my friends 'Oh I'm going to kill myself now, kfnxbye'
No I blatantly wouldn't commit suicide and I wouldn't be as so stupid as to stage the thing by going on msn and saying that.

I agree to some extent, as I said... Some people do it for attention, but is it worth ignoring it because you suspect that and then losing your friend?

Ostinato
06-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Im really worried about my friend Sarah who you may know ;[
She wants to commit suicide and i think she's trying now from what she's said,, she's slitting her wrists.. Im crying. I really dont want her to die
I REALLY REALLY REALLY DONT</3

What should i say and do.
Im going away and she might be dead when i get back ;[
HELP Me i literally crying ;[
Vicks!

If she was going to kill herself, she would have done it by now. If anyone is really, trully serious about killing themselves they just do it, they don't make sure everyone knows first then do it.

You need to talk to her and ask her what's making her feel so down and do your best to offer her advice and support her as a friend. You need to re-assure her everyone has their up's and down's in life and it's all part of growing up, but suicide is the easy way out and won't solve her problems, because she can't just keep running away from them.

She needs to face her problems head on and get them dealt with, rather than take her life without resolving them.

If she's not comfortable speaking to you about the problems she's facing, or if she is but you maybe need to give her some advice, you could get in touch with Childline, who offer a free and confidential service for children in the UK, where she will be able to have a one-to-one chat with a proffesional who can offer her the advice she need's.

For more information go to http://www.childline.org.uk/

princessstacy27
06-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Well if I was ever to commit suicide I would write a huge long letter, not sign in on MSN.
Again I would never commit suicide.

Well, i dont see anyone else writing she wants to die.. threads, so she could of just told vicks! about this. Which too me isnt attention seeking, id want my closest friend too know if i was going to commit suicide, should i ever, because they would be worried about you. Maybe thats what she did. And to some extent i also agree, but like Pers said, it should not be ignored.

Ostinato
06-07-2006, 02:43 PM
Well, i dont see anyone else writing she wants to die.. threads, so she could of just told vicks! about this. Which too me isnt attention seeking, id want my closest friend too know if i was going to commit suicide, should i ever, because they would be worried about you. Maybe thats what she did. And to some extent i also agree, but like Pers said, it should not be ignored.

As someone once said, "Suicide is a cry for attention and help".

By telling people she's going to commit suicide, it get's her the attention she needs, whereas if she genuinly simply wanted her life over she would just take her life and be done with it.

Also, if shes saying shes going to cut her wrists... whats the point? That would be one of the most painful and slowest ways of death, whereas she could simply walk in front of a train and have it over instantly.

tbh imo no m8
06-07-2006, 02:47 PM
IF you guys knew the story like me and Vicks then you would not think this is for attention.

princessstacy27
06-07-2006, 02:47 PM
As someone once said, "Suicide is a cry for attention and help".

By telling people she's going to commit suicide, it get's her the attention she needs, whereas if she genuinly simply wanted her life over she would just take her life and be done with it.

Also, if shes saying shes going to cut her wrists... whats the point? That would be one of the most painful and slowest ways of death, whereas she could simply walk in front of a train and have it over instantly.

Maybe thats what she wants?
A slow and painful death?
And shes probably only told Vicks!, as i said, shes probably telling her because 1. Shes close im guessing 2. She would be worried if she wasnt on for over a year 3. She wants to say her final words.
I do not know, but thats what im guessing. And if she hasnt commited suicide, thats a good thing, because suicide should be taken seriously, attention seeking or not, it could still be serious.

Craig
06-07-2006, 03:01 PM
if they were to commit suicide I know for a fact that I wouldn't post it on a forum asking for help but hurry the hell over to their house and run as fast as possible or whatever making sure I took my mobile phone if needed.


Thought I'd quote that from my large paragraph on the first page :rolleyes: Sums it all up really.

tbh imo no m8
06-07-2006, 03:03 PM
I take it she don't know her in rl. But things are looking better :).

Ostinato
06-07-2006, 03:20 PM
And if she hasnt commited suicide, thats a good thing, because suicide should be taken seriously, attention seeking or not, it could still be serious.

Of course suicide is a serious thing, and it needs to be taking seriously - do you think I'm stupid?

I'm not saying she's only doing it for attention so just ignore her, and as I clearly stated in my original post, suicide itself is a cry for attention therefore Vicks! needs to give her the attention she requires and find out the root of her problem and help her overcome it.

sarey
06-07-2006, 03:21 PM
Im really worried about my friend Sarah who you may know ;[
She wants to commit suicide and i think she's trying now from what she's said,, she's slitting her wrists.. Im crying. I really dont want her to die
I REALLY REALLY REALLY DONT</3

What should i say and do.
Im going away and she might be dead when i get back ;[
HELP Me i literally crying ;[
Vicks!

Vick... ill PM you ok? Everyone else can just be quiet, they dont know what went on this afternoon. So end of. If your gonna reply, it better not be too quote this, because im not reading this thread as of now.

FlyingJesus
06-07-2006, 03:25 PM
Sarah slits, she doesn't do it to kill herself, just to try to get rid of whatever feelings or memories are bringing her down. She may well say that she's suicidal, I believe that that's not entirely true but at that moment in time she needs something, and slits because she doesn't know any other way to cope. If it really works, more power to her for it, but it's dangerous and messy, and not the best way to sort things as I've said before.

About the attention seeking thing, I'd say it doesn't matter even if it is attention seeking, because people who do things like this for attention obviously need that attention and need help rather than criticism. I've always said that cutting is attention seeking on a subconscious level if nothing else, no matter what reasons the person has to offer. Sarah passionately disagrees with that but I feel it's true and therefore think that there will always be a way to stop cutting, if only the cutter can find what it is that they're missing from life.

Edit: Looks like she's A-ok chaps.

cassiee
06-07-2006, 05:39 PM
Vick... ill PM you ok? Everyone else can just be quiet, they dont know what went on this afternoon. So end of. If your gonna reply, it better not be too quote this, because im not reading this thread as of now.

roflmao ..
Attention seeker

Craig
06-07-2006, 05:46 PM
Vick... ill PM you ok? Everyone else can just be quiet, they dont know what went on this afternoon. So end of. If your gonna reply, it better not be too quote this, because im not reading this thread as of now.
You can't tell people on a forum to 'just be quiet' forums are allowed discussions/debates. And tbh I don't care went on this afternoon cos I pretty much know, you sought attention and it backfired. End of.

FlyingJesus
06-07-2006, 05:56 PM
you seeked attention

*Sought :)

Craig
06-07-2006, 05:58 PM
*Sought :)
I didn't say that :rolleyes: Ignore the 'Last edited by Craig : Today at 06:57PM' ;]

Lol thanks, and nice sig;) WEEEY 2 months and i'll be seeing them :d

FlyingJesus
06-07-2006, 06:03 PM
*Crycry* I want my Misfits :(

Galaxay.
06-07-2006, 06:49 PM
Atleast it proves my point that shes emo? ;)

ReInfected
06-07-2006, 06:57 PM
*plays violin*
I second that. Lmao

Ostinato
06-07-2006, 10:17 PM
Okay I'm closing this thread now.

Apparantly shes okay now. Basically, I didn't see the need for this forum as any advice myself and others offered was throwing back in our faces and we were simply told we didn't kno what we were talking about and what had gone on. If that was the case, what was the point in creating the thread asking for our advice in the first place?

Also, a few arguments are starting to come out of this, so it's also being closed to prevent them.

Thanks.

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