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JT-Fan
11-08-2006, 10:25 AM
Well do you belive you should wait until you are married to sleep with your partner or you do think it's okay to sleep with someone before marriage?

alteration
11-08-2006, 10:51 AM
No as soon as i turn 16 ill try

Rizla
11-08-2006, 11:05 AM
It's fine to sleep with someone before marrige, you won't goto hell or become morally corrupt ;)

Krusty
11-08-2006, 11:06 AM
i totally agree wif ^ Rizla
as long as your old enuf.
if u cant be good. Be safe
:)

Rizla
11-08-2006, 11:13 AM
I wouldn't say you should wait until you're 16, just when you feel you're ready. Like, some people may be ready at 13, others may not, it depends.

Azza
11-08-2006, 11:14 AM
if you really liek each other and are of age that is really it ^^

Krusty
11-08-2006, 11:17 AM
yupp
and make sure they aint just using yoo

Insanity
11-08-2006, 11:18 AM
I wouldn't say you should wait until you're 16, just when you feel you're ready. Like, some people may be ready at 13, others may not, it depends.
You mean when everyone else is doing it around you you ave to do it to look hard and in with the crowd.. so pathetic. the law is there for a reason.

Rizla
11-08-2006, 11:23 AM
You mean when everyone else is doing it around you you ave to do it to look hard and in with the crowd.. so pathetic. the law is there for a reason.No, I didn't mean that, please don't presume you know what I mean ;) This is one of the things I don't like about Habbox, people you've never spoken to make assumptions about your character :rolleyes:

Insanity
11-08-2006, 11:29 AM
No, I didn't mean that, please don't presume you know what I mean ;) This is one of the things I don't like about Habbox, people you've never spoken to make assumptions about your character :rolleyes:
Habbox is gai now, And don't think i don't know what you mean. You just cant wait to get the lil fella out of your pants. i read most s.t.ds are created whilst having underage sex due to hygine and the fact that things are still happening down there. its when your body is ready for it not when you THINK your ready for it.

MsTanya
11-08-2006, 11:37 AM
well ive done it plenty of times and im not married, i dont see it as a sin

ReviewDude
11-08-2006, 12:13 PM
I think there's nothing morally wrong with sex before marriage, but you need to really make sure it's the right person, and that you're safe. Sex isn't supposed to be 'just for fun', but a serious commitment to another person. That's the problem these days, and the reason why there are so many (accidental) teenage pregnancies, people think it's just a joke...

deltateamaplha
11-08-2006, 12:24 PM
As long as theres no sex !

Victimized
11-08-2006, 12:32 PM
As soon as i'm 16 i'm gonna be hounding every hot girl i know.

WHANGFACE
11-08-2006, 12:34 PM
No, but then its also some people's religion to wait until marriage.

Imo, when you feel ready, go for it.

Kotu
11-08-2006, 01:48 PM
Well, I don't mind either way. It's everyones personal decision. But personally, I think sex should be something special, so I'd only do it with someone I really passionately love. Whether it's within marriage or not.

Herman
11-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Yes, since it's part of my religion.

Allan_banvict0m
11-08-2006, 01:57 PM
if you really liek each other and are of age that is really it ^^


^^ I agree with azza.

simon!
11-08-2006, 03:27 PM
If it feels right and you love each other, and you're both ready then I say go for it you don't have to wait, God doesn't have the right to stop you from consummating your love for each other. Me and my fiancee first slept together after 2 years together, and we haven't stopped since :)

Sabu
11-08-2006, 03:29 PM
What Symon said.

:dallsgreen
11-08-2006, 04:12 PM
I should yes cause I'm catholic and we're supposed to wait til marriage, but if I met someone I felt comfortable with and I really cared about I wouldn't wait til marriage.

:-Mystical.Dave-
11-08-2006, 06:21 PM
Lols, I said Yes.
Being Jewish, you gotta wait till you're married.....

Kymux
11-08-2006, 07:20 PM
unfortunately i lost it to my best friend at 15 LOL

jordybumz!
11-08-2006, 08:43 PM
i don't see anything wrong with it. if it feels right, then why should you worry that you both haven't signed a bit of paper?

MsTanya
11-08-2006, 08:44 PM
unfortunately i lost it to my best friend at 15 LOL
why unfortunately?

Jodiemac
11-08-2006, 08:49 PM
Yes i Fink its ok to sleep wiv sum1 b4 marriage aslong as you love eachuva and mek it special :D :D

ilovejordan
11-08-2006, 09:47 PM
Yea i think its fine to have sex before marriage, because what if you never find someone to marry? Does that mean no sex? Its silly, you should be able to make the choice of having sex without thinking about religion or whatever your beliefs.

MsTanya
11-08-2006, 09:52 PM
and tbh yeah i dont agree with all this 'if you love the person', i dont that matters much anymore

Impel
11-08-2006, 10:35 PM
You mean when everyone else is doing it around you you ave to do it to look hard and in with the crowd.. so pathetic. the law is there for a reason.

Don't assume people always follow the crowd.

I personally lost my virginity to a girl I really liked and cared about. Enough to say that I loved her. I think marriage is a sham these days so it would mean nothing to wait until that time to finally have sex. People don't just go for the first person they think is "special" so it would be pointless to wait for that time.

sally37
11-08-2006, 10:46 PM
Im not sure,some guys that i have been going out with just went it then go but Its up to you if your are ready for it at the moment im not ready and i will find someone that really cares about me not my body =]

Mentor
11-08-2006, 11:19 PM
Meh, im aithiest so marrage is nothing more than a load of clumbsy outdated legal documents that realy just cause a lot of hassle rather than anything useful. So marrage is compleaty irelivent to me.
Whether you wait till you find someone you love, or you just have a one night stand is realy up to the person.

Ostinato
11-08-2006, 11:42 PM
and tbh yeah i dont agree with all this 'if you love the person', i dont that matters much anymore

So you think if you just go out and hook up with some random and have pointless sex before marriage, it's alright? If so - then you can't have very many standards and morals in your life.

Personally, I am a catholic by religion, therefore I am supposed to believe that the whole sex before marriage thing is condemned, but as a Catholic, I'm also willing to listen to other people's points of views and challenge my beliefs. :]

Therefore, in this particular case, although I am supposed to think it is wrong, I actually believe in sex before marriage. I think if you lose your virginity to someone who you believe is your soulmate, and who you trully love but perhaps your not able to marry them yet due to circumstances you are in, eg. age, parents, where you live etc. - then it's alright.

Like if you've been with someone for a while and you trully do love them, I think it's ok - but I'm not really into this whole 'going out and getting whatever you can' nonsence as I personally have a bit more standards than that, although others seem to not.

simon!
11-08-2006, 11:49 PM
So you think if you just go out and hook up with some random and have pointless sex before marriage, it's alright? If so - then you can't have very much standards and morals in your life.

Personally, I am a catholic by religion, therefore I am supposed to believe that the whole sex before marriage thing is condemned, but as a Catholic, I'm also willing to listen to other people's points of views and challenge my beliefs. :]

Therefore, in this particular case, although I am supposed to think it is wrong, I actually believe in sex before marriage. I think if you lose your virginity to someone who you believe is your soulmate, and who you trully love but perhaps your not able to marry them yet due to circumstances you are in, eg. age, parents, where you live etc. - then it's alright.

Like if you've been with someone for a while and you trully do love them, I think it's ok - but I'm not really into this whole 'going out and getting whatever you can' nonsence as I personally have a bit more standards than that, although others seem to not.

Ditto to what the young man said.

Ostinato
11-08-2006, 11:51 PM
Ditto to what the young man said.

Old man* =P

Mentor
11-08-2006, 11:53 PM
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So you think if you just go out and hook up with some random and have pointless sex before marriage, it's alright? If so - then you can't have very much standards and morals in your life.
I think thats ok? And i dont see whats pointless about it? If your haveing sex for fun, then that is the point, whether or not you love that person is completely irrelevant.
Sex isnt just for haveing children, if it were we wouldnt have invented condoms or the other tone of contraceptive methods.

Morallity is relative, so becuse somes morall standards are differnt from your own, does NOT mean that they do not have morals. Vegitarins may think its immorall to eat animals, Does that mean they should accuse everyone else of haveing no ethics or morals?



Personally, I am a catholic by religion, therefore I am supposed to believe that the whole sex before marriage thing is condemned, but as a Catholic, I'm also willing to listen to other people's points of views and challenge my beliefs. :]

Therefore, in this particular case, although I am supposed to think it is wrong, I actually believe in sex before marriage. I think if you lose your virginity to someone who you believe is your soulmate, and who you trully love but perhaps your not able to marry them yet due to circumstances you are in, eg. age, parents, where you live etc. - then it's alright.
Which is the If you realy love them point again, which is the replacement for the old idea of marrage, which has kinda died off. at least in the hetrosexual community, Marrage in the homosexual communty actualy tends to hold alot more wieght these days, even if its not actaly called marrage for some petty reasons.

Like if you've been with someone for a while and you trully do love them, I think it's ok - but I'm not really into this whole 'going out and getting whatever you can' nonsence as I personally have a bit more standards than that, although others seem to not.
Whats wrong with it? You would rather have sex in a deeper relationship. Thats your choise. But just becuse you want to doesnt then mean everyone who disagrees with that is wrong. if thats what someone chooses to do, thats there choise, And its equaly valid to yours or anyone elses.
You keep talking about standards? but what standards? whos standards? Sex isnt the same thing as a relationship. Its an act, it can co-enside, it can be somthing specal. But it can equaly just be sex "/

simon!
11-08-2006, 11:54 PM
You can't be as old as me Ostinato my friend :P

Ostinato
12-08-2006, 01:00 PM
I think thats ok? And i dont see whats pointless about it? If your haveing sex for fun, then that is the point, whether or not you love that person is completely irrelevant.
Sex isnt just for haveing children, if it were we wouldnt have invented condoms or the other tone of contraceptive methods.

Morallity is relative, so becuse somes morall standards are differnt from your own, does NOT mean that they do not have morals. Vegitarins may think its immorall to eat animals, Does that mean they should accuse everyone else of haveing no ethics or morals?



Which is the If you realy love them point again, which is the replacement for the old idea of marrage, which has kinda died off. at least in the hetrosexual community, Marrage in the homosexual communty actualy tends to hold alot more wieght these days, even if its not actaly called marrage for some petty reasons.

Whats wrong with it? You would rather have sex in a deeper relationship. Thats your choise. But just becuse you want to doesnt then mean everyone who disagrees with that is wrong. if thats what someone chooses to do, thats there choise, And its equaly valid to yours or anyone elses.
You keep talking about standards? but what standards? whos standards? Sex isnt the same thing as a relationship. Its an act, it can co-enside, it can be somthing specal. But it can equaly just be sex "/

MY standards.

Of course, we are all entitled to our own individiual opinions and as I actually said in my post I'm happy o listen to everyones point of views and arguments against my own beliefs, but in this case I personally believe that it's good to wait until you find someone who you feel as your soul mate to have sex with, and that it's quite pointless just going out to have sex with anyone.

The reasons condoms were created is obviously very mis-understood. It was so woman wouldn't end up pregnant, if the time in their life etc. wasn't perhaps rellevant for them to do so - not so you could just go out and sleep with 10 girls in one night.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that - but personally I have my own morals and standards which unfortunately, make me disagree with a lot you believe in, so lets just agree to disagree. ;p

Uwe
12-08-2006, 01:24 PM
I'm gay and since I dont believe in gay marriage then I think its okay. But if I was to have sex with a guy then it would be special and I would have had to have known him for ages. Not a few weeks but for atleast 6 months? and when I give my virginity to someone I plan to get theres in return...
so yeah

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12-08-2006, 01:47 PM
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Seacat
12-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Nothing up with it, you only live once so why bother getting married and devoting yourself to one person who will probably end up divorcing you anyway (More marriages break up now than ever before) :p

Mentor
12-08-2006, 02:34 PM
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MY standards.

Of course, we are all entitled to our own individiual opinions and as I actually said in my post I'm happy o listen to everyones point of views and arguments against my own beliefs, but in this case I personally believe that it's good to wait until you find someone who you feel as your soul mate to have sex with, and that it's quite pointless just going out to have sex with anyone.

Yet if the point is to have sex, then that point is both there and being forfilled. Everything has a point.


The reasons condoms were created is obviously very mis-understood. It was so woman wouldn't end up pregnant, if the time in their life etc. wasn't perhaps rellevant for them to do so - not so you could just go out and sleep with 10 girls in one night.
Well according to catholism, Condoms are evil, since they kill potental children, Sex is ONLY for haveing children and nothing else.
So thats a pretty have children or no sex approach.

Now, looking at the facts, the condom was developed not for contraceptive reasons, But insted to stop VD. now if you are sleeping with one person, this isnt realy needed is it....


You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that - but personally I have my own morals and standards which unfortunately, make me disagree with a lot you believe in, so lets just agree to disagree. ;p
You can disagree on standards, but the facts remain solid. You haveing diffent morals to someone, does NOT mean they do not have moralls, which is the part of your comment i mainly responded to. And i think your the one in denial about the orignal reasons for the condom.

Rizla
14-08-2006, 08:36 AM
you could just go out and sleep with 10 girls in one night.

I'd love to meet somebody who could do that :p

Colin-Roberts
14-08-2006, 03:25 PM
I'd love to meet somebody who could do that :p
lol i agree with ryan i'd love to do that just for the sake of doing it

JT-Fan
16-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Lol it seems everyone has totally differet viewss!

GJay
16-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Well do you belive you should wait until you are married to sleep with your partner or you do think it's okay to sleep with someone before marriage?


I originally thought it was repulsive and an unnaturaly process. But when I met my first boyfriend, all that went out of the window (he was incredibly fit xD). anywho, I was 15 at the time so I wouldn't have been able to go anywhere near him.

but when I met Karl, we were both happy to, after discussing whether it would be a good idea or not. But as I had a feeling of unnaturalness, the first time was the most painful feeling i'd ever had...so it felt terribly unatural.

No regrets though :)

I think it's got everything to do with your current relationship and wether you would be happier not to have sex with your current partner or to wait. I originally wanted to wait, but things change and attitudes change.

The decision is made at some point and it all makes complete sense.

omgabear
27-08-2006, 04:20 PM
37 to 6.

I like our odds.

iluvben
27-08-2006, 04:28 PM
i would never cope waiting that long.

FlyingJesus
28-08-2006, 03:45 PM
Me and my fiancee first slept together after 2 years together, and we haven't stopped since

Surely that's a record, how do you keep it up for so long?

Onto the topic at hand:



So you think if you just go out and hook up with some random and have pointless sex before marriage, it's alright? If so - then you can't have very many standards and morals in your life.

Although I personally wouldn't go out and sleep with anyone, I don't see why it should be condemned. "Standards" refer to how you view your partners, you could easily know several good-looking girls with great personalities before you get married, your standards certainly wouldn't get in the way there. "Morals" are different for every person, yours revolve around your faith which is fair enough, but someone having different morals to you is not the same as having no morals.


Personally, I am a catholic by religion, therefore I am supposed to believe that the whole sex before marriage thing is condemned

The Christian ideal of no sex before marriage doesn't actually go as such.. simply that you should only be with one woman in your lifetime (unless your partner dies), as opposed to the Old Testament style of polygamy. People just phrase it as "no sex before marriage" because once married you're not meant to go around having sex with other people anyway.


but as a Catholic, I'm also willing to listen to other people's points of views and challenge my beliefs

You must be the first Christian I've ever spoken to who's willing to challenge their beliefs ^_^


I think if you lose your virginity to someone who you believe is your soulmate, and who you trully love but perhaps your not able to marry them yet due to circumstances you are in, eg. age, parents, where you live etc. - then it's alright

As above about meeting several such people. It's possible, even if unlikely.


but I'm not really into this whole 'going out and getting whatever you can' nonsence

Nor I, but that's just preference rather than morals.


it's quite pointless just going out to have sex with anyone

From the "are you a virgin?" thread I know that you've experienced sex yourself, and so know that as well as being something which many people (yourself and yours truly included) think of as a bonding moment between you and a loved one, is also about seven hells of a lot of fun. My standards/morals on this subject pretty much match what you've said of yours, but I can easily understand why someone would want to get as much as they could of it.

velvet
28-08-2006, 04:03 PM
I clicked the wrong one, supposed to vote no.
I don't think it's wrong, as Ostinato mensioned, sometimes you can't get married due to age and stuff. I think if your with someone who you love and trust, you don't need to be married to prove that, and if you want to have sex with that person, if your both okay with it and understand the consiquences and risks, then fine. :]

Ostinato
28-08-2006, 04:16 PM
Surely that's a record, how do you keep it up for so long?

Onto the topic at hand:




Although I personally wouldn't go out and sleep with anyone, I don't see why it should be condemned. "Standards" refer to how you view your partners, you could easily know several good-looking girls with great personalities before you get married, your standards certainly wouldn't get in the way there. "Morals" are different for every person, yours revolve around your faith which is fair enough, but someone having different morals to you is not the same as having no morals.



The Christian ideal of no sex before marriage doesn't actually go as such.. simply that you should only be with one woman in your lifetime (unless your partner dies), as opposed to the Old Testament style of polygamy. People just phrase it as "no sex before marriage" because once married you're not meant to go around having sex with other people anyway.



You must be the first Christian I've ever spoken to who's willing to challenge their beliefs ^_^



As above about meeting several such people. It's possible, even if unlikely.



Nor I, but that's just preference rather than morals.



From the "are you a virgin?" thread I know that you've experienced sex yourself, and so know that as well as being something which many people (yourself and yours truly included) think of as a bonding moment between you and a loved one, is also about seven hells of a lot of fun. My standards/morals on this subject pretty much match what you've said of yours, but I can easily understand why someone would want to get as much as they could of it.

What I said about morals and standards, now looking back at it, was quite harsh and I do take it back.

Lol Flying, I am more than willing to challenge my beliefs and believe that's an important part of life. If your only willing to believe what you think is correct, then I feel that your not going to get far in life, as you really do need to listen to other peoples points of views and opinions on things etc. I do not at all believe everything the Bible preaches, and everything I am supposed to as a Catholic. I believe the majority of it, yes, but I have my own opinions ab beliefs on some of the stuff.

Lol I agree with you, I do understand why people would want to go out and do it for the sake of it, cause it's great fun and you of course get a lot of plesure out of it - but I don't really agree with the whole idea of it, as I am a strong believer that sex should be between 2 people who love each other, and at that moment in time believe they are soulmates.

Ryan+Joe
02-09-2006, 10:47 AM
Not rly.

Michael.
03-09-2006, 01:49 PM
i voted yes. i'll explain my reasons for doing so below.
Sex should only be used to start a family really. Obviously, there are some rewards for both parties in this ;) but contraception is wrong (in my eyes anyway). If you love each other so much to have sex, why don't you want to start a family? Okay, i'm going to get some replies such as "what if there's financial problems?" but can't you just wait until those problems are gone or do you have no self control?



So you think if you just go out and hook up with some random and have pointless sex before marriage, it's alright? If so - then you can't have very many standards and morals in your life.

I agree with that, can't really add more than that.



Therefore, in this particular case, although I am supposed to think it is wrong, I actually believe in sex before marriage. I think if you lose your virginity to someone who you believe is your soulmate, and who you trully love but perhaps your not able to marry them yet due to circumstances you are in, eg. age, parents, where you live etc. - then it's alright.

I agree with that to a point. I think that you need to have some sort of commitment before having sex. If you know this is who you're going to spend the rest of your life with this person, you go girl/boy!! But age? I don't believe you could make an informed decision about sex at below 16 really.


Nothing up with it, you only live once so why bother getting married and devoting yourself to one person who will probably end up divorcing you anyway (More marriages break up now than ever before) :p
Sex should only be used if there's so much love in the relationship!!
Sex is a way of devoting your life to the other person to start a family!!
Yet, sleeping around is okay because more marriages break up now than ever before? Quick question, do you have morals?

Mentor also said something about condoms being invented to stop VD spreading. People use condoms now for contraception. Preventing life and killing somebody are just as bad in my book.

Right, my head is a bit mashed so I may have contradicted myself a few times.

Rock_Your_Socks
03-09-2006, 01:56 PM
You expect me to wait until i'm what 25 years old until i have sex?

No way.

Hecktix
03-09-2006, 01:58 PM
Well if you wait until you're married. Then sleep with her, and she isnt very good, thats half of everything you own. Pretty expensive girl?

Nah My real views are:

Marriage is a good thing, but sleeping with someone before marriage isnt a crime. I mean I belive in cohabitation before marriage so you know what it's like to live with a person before you marry them, surely if you are living with someone you think you love you are going to sleep with them.

Nixt
03-09-2006, 02:01 PM
My personal view is that you should be able to do it when you are ready. If you have been together a while, and you wish to take part in an act that really seals your love for eachother; why should you have to wait to sign a piece of paper to do it?

FlyingJesus
03-09-2006, 02:16 PM
If contraception is the same as killing simply because it prevents someone being born, then abstinence is just as bad.

ilovejordan
03-09-2006, 03:48 PM
i voted yes. i'll explain my reasons for doing so below.
Sex should only be used to start a family really. Obviously, there are some rewards for both parties in this ;) but contraception is wrong (in my eyes anyway). If you love each other so much to have sex, why don't you want to start a family? Okay, i'm going to get some replies such as "what if there's financial problems?" but can't you just wait until those problems are gone or do you have no self control?




What about pleasure? How is contraception wrong. What if you have hiv does that mean you can never have sex? Contraception is a safety method to prevent both children and dieseases / infections. Thats basically saying all medicenes that help people live but can prevent women from having children are wrong too.








I agree with that to a point. I think that you need to have some sort of commitment before having sex. If you know this is who you're going to spend the rest of your life with this person, you go girl/boy!! But age? I don't believe you could make an informed decision about sex at below 16 really.

Some people are very mature under 16. What if you think at the time it is the person your going to spend your life with and then something happens?


Sex should only be used if there's so much love in the relationship!!
Sex is a way of devoting your life to the other person to start a family!!
Yet, sleeping around is okay because more marriages break up now than ever before? Quick question, do you have morals?

How is sex a way of devoting? What if you think you love that person at the time then something happens? Nobody has said sleepin around okay. However, under the influence of alchohol it is hard to control yourself!



Mentor also said something about condoms being invented to stop VD spreading. People use condoms now for contraception. Preventing life and killing somebody are just as bad in my book.

What do you expect them to use it for? What if 2 people love each other but aren't ready for a family just yet? Killing somebody is taking away a life. Using protection is simply stopping / delaying what might be in the future.

ItsDave
03-09-2006, 04:23 PM
I would definatley sleep with someone before marriage.

Tinsual
12-09-2006, 09:48 AM
You mean when everyone else is doing it around you you ave to do it to look hard and in with the crowd.. so pathetic. the law is there for a reason.


Read it again, Read it again, Read it again i get what he/she means.

As some people can be ready to do it at that age others may not yet be ready till there 16/18.

manga21
15-09-2006, 03:27 PM
Ok You mean were killing life... well when you have sex without a comdom and want to have a baby millons ( something like that) sperm die anyways... only one makes it

Jamie!
15-09-2006, 03:55 PM
Think you should be able to once you and your partner are ready to...

Tanya
15-09-2006, 05:39 PM
naw, i wouldnt wait that long

ColyTom
16-09-2006, 07:14 PM
I think it is right to sleep with someone before marriage.

Rizla,
16-09-2006, 07:54 PM
Holy shizzle, tombo.

Recursion
16-09-2006, 07:58 PM
i think it is right. It lets you get to know them better ;)

Kickerfliper.
16-09-2006, 09:03 PM
Sleeping with someone before Marraige is a BIG thing in some religions, but you wouldn't exactly want to be stuck with someone who you don't know how they are in bed would you?

Kingzy
17-09-2006, 10:20 PM
I voted yes, but not precisely on that, it's NOT precisely on that, it's okay, but I'm not too fond of acting like a bleep, and doing it all willy nilly, I mean, know the person, love the person. I DON'T however, think it's sane to walk around asking for sex.

--Kingzy

Memmish
18-09-2006, 12:54 AM
I think if it was a law or a really inforced religious expectation that everyone should be married before they had sex. People would get married as soon as they met someone they kinda liked and then get divorced! So save the cost and hassle of divorce and just jump in bed!

Pyroka
22-09-2006, 12:49 AM
I wouldnt say its completely right, its best to use protection if you are going to do such things. If you arent, and you want to have a baby before marriage, well DONT GO THERE KK? Ive saw eastenders.

Cadaver
22-09-2006, 01:45 AM
I don't think it's a big deal, it's the couples choice.

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