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Seatherny
24-08-2006, 07:55 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5282440.stm

Well I guess we only have 8 planets now? Science books = out of date


Reuters AlertNet - 3 hours ago
Scientists from around the world approved a new definition of a planet on Thursday, downgrading Pluto's status after 76 years, to leave just eight classical planets.


Pluto loses status as a planet

Pluto's status has been contested for many years
Astronomers have voted to strip Pluto of its status as a planet.
About 2,500 scientists meeting in Prague have adopted historic new guidelines that see the small, distant world demoted to a secondary category.

The researchers said Pluto failed to dominate its orbit around the Sun in the same way as the other planets.

The International Astronomical Union's (IAU) decision means textbooks will now have to describe a Solar System with just eight major planetary bodies.

Pluto, which was discovered in 1930 by the American Clyde Tombaugh, will be referred to as a "dwarf planet".

There is a recognition that the demotion is likely to upset the public, who have become accustomed to a particular view of the Solar System.

Teary-eyed

"I have a slight tear in my eye today, yes; but at the end of the day we have to describe the Solar System as it really is, not as we would like it to be," said Professor Iwan Williams, chair of the IAU panel that has been working over recent months to define the term "planet".


The meeting had seen some fierce arguments before final voting
The need for a strict definition was deemed necessary after new telescope technologies began to reveal far-off objects that rivalled Pluto in size.

Without a new nomenclature, these discoveries raised the prospect that textbooks could soon be talking about 50 or more planets in the Solar System.

Amid dramatic scenes in the Czech capital which saw astronomers waving yellow ballot papers in the air, the IAU voted to block this possibility - and in the process took the historic decision to relegate Pluto.

The scientists agreed that for a celestial body to qualify as a planet:

it must be in orbit around the Sun
it must be large enough that it takes on a nearly round shape
it has cleared its orbit of other objects
Pluto was automatically disqualified because its highly elliptical orbit overlaps with that of Neptune. It will now join a new category of dwarf planets.

Icy reaches

Pluto's status has been contested for many years. It is further away and considerably smaller than the eight other "traditional" planets in our Solar System. At just 2,360km (1,467 miles) across, Pluto is smaller even than some moons in the Solar System.

PLUTO - A 'DEMOTED PLANET'

Named after underworld god
Average of 5.9bn km to Sun
Orbits Sun every 248 years
Diameter of 2,360km
Has at least three moons
Rotates every 6.8 days
Gravity about 6% of Earth's
Surface temperature -233C
Nasa probe visits in 2015
Its orbit around the Sun is also highly tilted compared with the plane of the big planets.

In addition, since the early 1990s, astronomers have found several objects of comparable size to Pluto in an outer region of the Solar System called the Kuiper Belt.

Some astronomers have long argued that Pluto would be better categorised alongside this population of small, icy worlds.

The critical blow for Pluto came with the discovery three years ago of an object currently designated 2003 UB313. After being measured with the Hubble Space Telescope, it was shown to be some 3,000km (1,864 miles) in diameter: it is bigger than Pluto.

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I don't see the need to redefine the solar system

Siraj Ahsan, Dubai


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2003 UB313 will now join Pluto in the dwarf category, along with Pluto's major moon, Charon, and the biggest asteroid in the Solar System, Ceres.

Named after the god of the underworld in Roman mythology, Pluto orbits the Sun at an average distance of 5.9 billion kilometres (3.7 billion miles) taking 247.9 Earth years to complete a single circuit of the Sun.

An unmanned US spacecraft, New Horizons, is due to fly by Pluto and the Kuiper Belt in 2015.

lust
24-08-2006, 07:56 PM
I'll miss you Pluto ;_;

louder
24-08-2006, 07:56 PM
thats stupid, it revloves around the sun, therefor it is a planet...

brandon
24-08-2006, 07:58 PM
I think it's silly..

Pu$$y
24-08-2006, 07:59 PM
OH WELL.

Tash.
24-08-2006, 07:59 PM
Oh yeah I read this earlier, bit stupid of them.. changing what children already know, text books etc. Why does it even matter now, no point in demoting it. :s

-:Undertaker:-
24-08-2006, 08:01 PM
Its stupid, Why change it?

iluvben
24-08-2006, 08:03 PM
pointlezz

Seatherny
24-08-2006, 08:03 PM
Planets orbit in a circle .. pluto orbits in an oval shape so they said its not a planet.
Hmmm gd way to win bets against people who dont know about the 8 planet thing :)

Oracle:
24-08-2006, 08:04 PM
Technically text-books need to be re-wrote as there are or were more than 9 planets anyway if you count beyond this star system. Most people believe Pluto shouldn't have lost it's status.

lust
24-08-2006, 08:05 PM
Planets orbit in a circle .. pluto orbits in an oval shape so they said its not a planet.
Hmmm gd way to win bets against people who dont know about the 8 planet thing :)
why should us, the earthlings have the decision of whats called a planet?

wait; thats a really stupid question.

BL!NKEY
24-08-2006, 08:05 PM
Its stupid, Why change it?



Without a new nomenclature, these discoveries raised the prospect that textbooks could soon be talking about 50 or more planets in the Solar System.

Scientists set a new standard which left pluto out. If they let pluto in they would also have to add a lot more planets.

-:Undertaker:-
24-08-2006, 08:05 PM
Technically text-books need to be re-wrote as there are or were more than 9 planets anyway if you count beyond this star system. Most people believe Pluto shouldn't have lost it's status.



So now Schools have got to waste Thousands of Pounds replacing old Books :$

iluvben
24-08-2006, 08:08 PM
why should us, the earthlings have the decision of whats called a planet?

wait; thats a really stupid question.

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

Pu$$y
24-08-2006, 08:08 PM
So now Schools have got to waste Thousands of Pounds replacing old Books :$
No mate. You're wrong there.

lust
24-08-2006, 08:09 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
don't laugh ]:

-:Undertaker:-
24-08-2006, 08:11 PM
No mate. You're wrong there.



No actually some stupid schools will do that.

Also I still regard Pluto as a Planet so: :p To the scientists

Mentor
24-08-2006, 08:11 PM
if they didnt change it there be around 50 planets to learn in are solar system "/

-:Undertaker:-
24-08-2006, 08:13 PM
if they didnt change it there be around 50 planets to learn in are solar system "/


But why not just keep Pluto as a Planet since its well known, No one was forceing them to add the Other Little ones.

uh huh her
24-08-2006, 08:16 PM
So now Schools have got to waste Thousands of Pounds replacing old Books :$

They could just get a marker pen and scribble out pluto.

lust
24-08-2006, 08:16 PM
why did they add it as a planet to start with? :s

xxMATTGxx
24-08-2006, 08:16 PM
Aww i miss it ;]

FrozenWhisper
24-08-2006, 08:18 PM
No,No, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
And just the day I get my GoddessOfpluto account...

Ryan+Joe
24-08-2006, 08:20 PM
So now Schools have got to waste Thousands of Pounds replacing old Books :$
NO LOL TEACHERS WILL JUST SCRIBBLE OUT PLUTO!!!

Azza
24-08-2006, 08:22 PM
due 2 the stuff they found out i think it shud still remaind as a planet as many ppl have known it as aplanet like said above doesnt mean u have 2 get everything with similar states and that 2 be plantets jsut keep pluto the exeption as it has been so well known.

jordybumz!
24-08-2006, 08:22 PM
how pointless.

FrozenWhisper
24-08-2006, 08:23 PM
I loved Pluto, it was my child, :'(

1
24-08-2006, 08:24 PM
thats stupid, it revloves around the sun, therefor it is a planet...

The moon revolves around us, we revolve around the sun.
Our moon is a planet...


And seriously, Am i the only one who doesn't care?

FrozenWhisper
24-08-2006, 08:27 PM
The moon revolves around us, we revolve around the sun.
Our moon is a planet...


And seriously, Am i the only one who doesn't care?
Yes, yes you are.

beth
24-08-2006, 09:04 PM
meh, didn't do much anyway.

Kardan
24-08-2006, 09:28 PM
thats stupid, it revloves around the sun, therefor it is a planet...

Wow therefore we have thousands of planets if that's your theory :P

You've got the Asteroid belt, the Kuiper thingy... they all revolve round the sun.

RedStratocas
24-08-2006, 09:44 PM
Planets orbit in a circle .. pluto orbits in an oval shape so they said its not a planet.
Hmmm gd way to win bets against people who dont know about the 8 planet thing :)

That isnt why they demoted it though, its because it wasent big enough and it was just a big ball of ice or something. So if it was a planet, theyd have to let like 5 others in, because they all fit under the same definition as pluto

Herman
25-08-2006, 05:16 AM
I think it's stupid. Now all textbooks and science books on planets are invalid and everything has to be changed. It's confusing the learning process in schools. Why can't they just leave it as it is? They're wasting paper on new books. It's simple pointless.

FrozenWhisper
25-08-2006, 07:30 AM
I think it's stupid. Now all textbooks and science books on planets are invalid and everything has to be changed. It's confusing the learning process in schools. Why can't they just leave it as it is? They're wasting paper on new books. It's simple pointless.
What she said ^^^

Ryan+Joe
25-08-2006, 10:09 AM
What she said ^^^
herman is a he

Jesus-Egg
25-08-2006, 10:18 AM
Here's how it all shakes out. The International Astronomical Union has decided that, to be called a planet, an object must have three traits. It must orbit the sun, be massive enough that its own gravity pulls it into a nearly round shape, and be dominant enough to clear away objects in its neighborhood.

To be admitted to the dwarf planet category, an object must have only two of those traits -- it must orbit the sun and have a nearly round shape. And no, moons don't count as dwarf planets. In addition to Pluto, Ceres and 2003 UB313, the astronomical union has a dozen potential "dwarf planets" on its watchlist.

What's to become of the other objects in our solar system neighborhood, the ones that are not planets, not dwarf planets and not moons? The organization has decided that most asteroids, comets and other small objects will be called "small solar-system bodies."



Even before the discovery of Xena, not all was calm in the planetary world. There was debate after Clyde Tombaugh discovered Pluto in 1930. With its small size, distant location and odd orbit, some questioned whether Pluto was really a planet or just an icy remnant of the planet-forming process.

That issue has been resolved by the International Astronomical Union. Among those most keenly following the debate -- Mike Brown, who has been awaiting word on Pluto and the object he found, Xena.

"I'm of course disappointed that Xena will not be the tenth planet, but I definitely support the IAU in this difficult and courageous decision," said Brown. "It is scientifically the right thing to do, and is a great step forward in astronomy."

Although the revamping of our solar system might seem unsettling, it's really nothing new. In fact, when Ceres was first discovered in 1801, it was called a planet, as were several similar objects found later. But when the count kept on growing, astronomers decided "enough is enough," and they demoted Ceres and its siblings, placing them in a new category, called asteroids.


So basically, they've made an official definition of what a planet is, and because Pluto only has 2 of the 3 characteristics, it will be known as a "dwarf planet", along with Ceres and Xena.



I think it's stupid. Now all textbooks and science books on planets are invalid and everything has to be changed. It's confusing the learning process in schools. Why can't they just leave it as it is? They're wasting paper on new books. It's simple pointless.


Would you rather learn the names of 8 planets, or of 50+ planets? Surely it's less confusing placing Pluto in the new category of dwarf planets, than going to school one day and there are 9 planets, then a few days later there are 12, then there are 15, then 20, then 25, etc and you've never even heard of these objects that they're calling planets!

Chaz
25-08-2006, 10:23 AM
Oh well, thats one less planet to revise for huh?

amateur
25-08-2006, 11:32 AM
was my favourite plant lol. ]:

laurenx
25-08-2006, 11:38 AM
OH no. :'(

Herman
25-08-2006, 12:16 PM
What she said ^^^


herman is a he

What he said. ): -offended- lmao. kidding.

Swastika
25-08-2006, 09:33 PM
thats stupid, it revloves around the sun, therefor it is a planet...
So what if it orbits the sun?
Many other things orbit the sun, but they arnt classed as planets.
Oh yeah and it is a planet, its just not in our solar system anymore, its classed as one of the "mini planets" or something.
Theres like 12 all together classing the mini planets.

Mentor
25-08-2006, 09:51 PM
its classed as a dwarf planet, but it is still in our solar system "/

Jesus-Egg
25-08-2006, 09:57 PM
So what if it orbits the sun?
Many other things orbit the sun, but they arnt classed as planets.
Oh yeah and it is a planet, its just not in our solar system anymore, its classed as one of the "mini planets" or something.
Theres like 12 all together classing the mini planets.


What? Of course Pluto is still in our Solar System. It's just called a dwarf planet, instead of a planet.

To be a planet, it must:
1. Orbit the Sun
2. Be round in shape
3. Clear other objects away from its orbit

As Pluto only has 2 of these traits, and has not cleared other objects away from its orbit (It passes through the orbit of Neptune), it is known as a dwarf planet.

The biggest flaw with this definition that i can see is, because Neptune passes through the orbit of Pluto, it hasn't cleared all objects away from its orbit, so technically, following this definition, Neptune should be a dwarf planet :s

Alterate
25-08-2006, 09:59 PM
thats stupid, it revloves around the sun, therefor it is a planet...

You agaisnt the leading scientist's in the world. :P

Kardan
25-08-2006, 10:17 PM
Here's a thread on the definition of a planet:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=213482

foxyfox00
26-08-2006, 09:04 AM
Nooooo, now I dont have a star sign planet =(
I want pluto back!

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