Open Debates.

[Mentor]

The debates forum as it currently is, is kind of pointless. Theres never any debates, and its boaring as at best theres only one, that doesn't interest everyone.
Im pretty sure im not the onlyone who thinks this.

Could we Please have the debates forum as it was Orignaly. That is an OPEN forum. That people can post there own debate threads in, And then anyone can join those debates.

No one cairs about winners or loosers in the debates, the point is just the debating. Just a single forum people can debate in, and create a debate topic if they so feel like it.

Would this be possible?

[:James:]

I agree with this, or at least make the debate leaders active.

[Grindie]

Or maybe they should just have a debate forum mod, we could have 10 debates going on at one time, with an expiry date, the debates would be selected by the users etc etc.

^All of that requires more explaining but i'm sure they could work out a plan somehow

[Mentor]

all that would do, is make more work, and slow down the forum, without adding any possible advantage? let users make debates, and debate. Mod it normaly. Thats all you need and it would run a whole lot better.

[velvet]

all that would do, is make more work, and slow down the forum, without adding any possible advantage? let users make debates, and debate. Mod it normaly. Thats all you need and it would run a whole lot better.

I agree with this.
I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed debating and now nothing seems to happen any more :l

[RedStratocas]

I agree with Entor. Why does it have to be this super-official thing with winners and losers and set ups? All it is ask a question and see how people respond.

[-Wolverine]

I completely agree with mentor, if we have someone setting up debates (Jin) they could be away, and the forum would not be active at all. I say let users start their own debates, and add more Mods to the section so there'll be no rule-breaking etc.

[Mentor]

Yay, now theres proof as well that alot of people agree with me on it :D

I do realy think it would be useful again, there may actauly be a few worthwile debates again if they do make the change.

[NekkLe]

I also agree. It hasn't been used for ages since Jin and Jack were last here. open debates that are set up by users would be more useful and will provide a more open selection of debates.
This would stop that pat of the forum being wastefull.

[nvrspk4]

I agree. However though users should be able to post their own threads, it should be made so that SMods / Mods / Admins had to approve the thread to make sure it was a worthwhile / appropriate debate. But yes it should be turned public to a fashion. We can have a subforum in there for the "official" less common debates.

[sierk1]

I think Jin was dealing with debates and setting everything up, maybe you can contact him about it.

[---MAD---]

I think Jin was dealing with debates and setting everything up, maybe you can contact him about it.
I have spoken to him and he says he told Seacat he doesn't manage it any more or something like that :).

[NekkLe]

So is this going to happen then?

[Seatherny]

That forum should be active again soon :)

[---MAD---]

Well seacat is sorting it out at the moment, give him a few days :).

[Mentor]

I agree. However though users should be able to post their own threads, it should be made so that SMods / Mods / Admins had to approve the thread to make sure it was a worthwhile / appropriate debate. But yes it should be turned public to a fashion. We can have a subforum in there for the "official" less common debates.

Compleaty open debates openes up a far wide range of debateing topics though, haveing to wait for approvals just a waste of time, nearly every forum i know runs this feature in this way and has no problems from it.

Plus open debates has far more vbaried and interesting debates than the offical ones, which are always boaring generic ones "/

[Seacat]

I asked Jin the other day whether he still wanted to run it and he said ask the community staff (ie Forum Moderators) so I've made a thread in the Forum Moderators Forum.

I'm keen to set it up again too because it's an interesting Forum, I don't like the idea of making it so anyone can start a debate when they want because the Forum will be full of useless debates and people won't debate one subject properly because they'll be debating a number of subjects at a time + It needs to be carefully Moderated incase it turns into an abusive argument.

We could have it so that there are a number of debates open at the same time, however if it was an open Forum and there were 50 running at once the Forum would get pointless.

[Mentor]

I asked Jin the other day whether he still wanted to run it and he said ask the community staff (ie Forum Moderators) so I've made a thread in the Forum Moderators Forum.

I'm keen to set it up again too because it's an interesting Forum, I don't like the idea of making it so anyone can start a debate when they want because the Forum will be full of useless debates and people won't debate one subject properly because they'll be debating a number of subjects at a time + It needs to be carefully Moderated incase it turns into an abusive argument.

We could have it so that there are a number of debates open at the same time, however if it was an open Forum and there were 50 running at once the Forum would get pointless.
Can you name one exsample forum oif this actualy happening with an open debates forum? i can offer of 100 of it not "/

[sierk1]

I really don't understand what you are trying to say sometimes. What do you mean by that last sentence?


Can you name one exsample forum oif this actualy happening with an open debates forum? i can offer of 100 of it not "/

[Tomm]

I really don't understand what you are trying to say sometimes. What do you mean by that last sentence?

He means that he wants a forum for an example where this is happening. If not he can show you about 100 where it works effectively. I think :P

[Minix]

I don't really know any forums that don't have open debates.. When I first came on this forum, I went to the debates part and thought, "Great, a debate" But it turns out you don't have any say in what the debate is about, it's hard to take part and there are never any ones open....

I'd like to point out that most people who play habbo and use habbo fansites aren't 25, and so aren't all interested in boring "school-like" debates about space travel and governments...

[---MAD---]

25? you mean <20 :p

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think we need a Debate Forum which you can make your own threads in!

[dark-as-death]

I think we need a Debate Forum which you can make your own threads in!

Too right, there are not any debates that give you an opertunity to speak out and say what you want.

[-Soph-]

I agree with this, I love debates, There a great way to express how you feel without being slated for it, Its just there isn't any most of the time.

I think it should be an open forum, Kept purely to debates and nothing else.

[darkchicken101]

T'is a good idea IMO.

[Mentor]

Just as a bump to this thread, becuse i would like to see the happen, plus nearly everyone whos posted has said theyed like to see the idea implimented "/

[-:Undertaker:-]

Someone said that there'd be a new Discussion in that Forum soon - Still waiting..

[Jin]

Is that forum still closed :S?

I will flag this up with Seacat and let him decide what to do with the forum.

[london]

Sorry for bump, I think this is a great idea which should be followed up.

[NekkLe]

So is there a decision whether its going forward or what?

[Tiuhdur]

should b done

[---MAD---]

So is there a decision whether its going forward or what?
I spoke to sierk about this a while back and he said no simply because debates are debated better when they are controlled :). If everyone made a debate, some would not be taken seriously and some would be ignored etc.

[NekkLe]

I spoke to sierk about this a while back and he said no simply because debates are debated better when they are controlled :). If everyone made a debate, some would not be taken seriously and some would be ignored etc.

Fair do's but its nothing more different to the discuss anything forum, except people won't post comments such as "ROFL yeh dats good!" its a formal section where things should be debated with a full answer/reply. Mods will still be able to mod it, to keep it under control, there will be a range of debates to choose from so people with different views can benefit from certain threads etc.

I can't see how not allowing it this way will cause any disruption...

[Tiuhdur]

Fair do's but its nothing more different to the discuss anything forum, except people won't post comments such as "ROFL yeh dats good!" its a formal section where things should be debated with a full answer/reply. Mods will still be able to mod it, to keep it under control, there will be a range of debates to choose from so people with different views can benefit from certain threads etc.

I can't see how not allowing it this way will cause any disruption...


ye so please please please please please please please please let us have it lol

[Mentor]

Fair do's but its nothing more different to the discuss anything forum, except people won't post comments such as "ROFL yeh dats good!" its a formal section where things should be debated with a full answer/reply. Mods will still be able to mod it, to keep it under control, there will be a range of debates to choose from so people with different views can benefit from certain threads etc.

I can't see how not allowing it this way will cause any disruption...
In addition the problem of ignored debates, would be removed if certain usless rules were lifed in the forum, aka no bumping old topics, since in a debate forum, it would be pointless have 7 half finished versions of the same date, insted there should be one big debate, which can be brought back to the front when ever anyone has anything new to add to it.

im totaly for open debates.

The one option on habbox that has been shown, to fail, time and time again, is the closed debates currenly operated. back when habbox had open debates it was all fine, with no problems "/

[DiscoPat]

We won't go until we get someeeeeeee..?