Be carefull of bans!

[fitcovboy]

It seems habbohotel have now started banning people if someone logs into another account owned by that habbo, it does not matter if it is your partner who you share credit cards with! I have an alternative habbo namely rarefurnishop that my partner logged into last night, to my surprise i got up today and tried to log onto fitcovboy, only to discover he is banned permanently, however rarefurnishop was not, so they targetted the account with 150T's worth of furni, they now say they will not lift the ban, so leaving me no alternative but to take out legal action regarding the issue.

[brandon]

Ouch 150t loss is quite alot if you consider that thrones would sell for 10.00 each that's 1500 GBP worth.

[Boxiel]

Yeah, Many of my other friends have been banned lately.

One today, Got banned for saying ( i quote ) "Yeah, i got gold hc the other day*
He was banned for vulgarity.


I was banned a few weeks ago For explaining to a friend, Why he had been banned, again, Vulgarity,

These were both 2 hours, but equally unfair

[Charlie]

Wow, thats stupid. I sometimes go on my sisters account to do her rooms & borrow stuff.

If she gets banned she'd kill me, habbos pretty much her life, sad huh?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Rofl Sulake has shot itself in the Foot, You report someone and get a message back saying "JUST IGNORE AND THE PROBLE WILL DISAPPAER" Then MODS go round banning people for NO REASON !

[uh huh her]

It seems habbohotel have now started banning people if someone logs into another account owned by that habbo, it does not matter if it is your partner who you share credit cards with! I have an alternative habbo namely rarefurnishop that my partner logged into last night, to my surprise i got up today and tried to log onto fitcovboy, only to discover he is banned permanently, however rarefurnishop was not, so they targetted the account with 150T's worth of furni, they now say they will not lift the ban, so leaving me no alternative but to take out legal action regarding the issue.

how pathetic to ban you for sharing an account. take them to court k [;

[Wig44.]

150t... and your rare furni shop?

[GommeInc]

How do they know you are a different person? If it is IP, I am ready to log on and flame Habbo.

[Danny]

And when i thought habbo couldn't get much worse! :rolleyes:, so, if you break the habbo way, people just have to ignore and no ban is issued, but if you say something like, "i got gold HC" you get banned... Can anyone see anything wrong with this?
Also, if it's due to a different I.P someone could quite easily log in somewhere else, like at their friend's house or something.

[fitcovboy]

150t... and your rare furni shop?

Yes and yes my partner logged into rarefurnishop ( who is not banned ) they banned fitcovboy for someone logging into rarefurnishop. Seems you can share a life, bank account, credit cards, emails, just not a habbo password, so keep it top secret from your partner huh. Erm i have informed them of legal action, Emma tried talking down to me & Becs just passed her mails to Emma, copies of which i have.

[GommeInc]

Yes, and there is alot wrong with Habbo. They are going to lose alot of customers/users with these stupid ideas of theirs. I have noticed I have not gone on for a while...

[Wig44.]

I agree with all that we are saying. If an appeal against habbo could be started maybe... there would be a chance but I don't think that habbos would b botheres

[GommeInc]

Habbos are too self-centred and generally try to act good and kiss up. Take coolmandan6, I am sure he has brains to know that FOMO is a huge piece of stinking waffle syrup :rolleyes: But he wrote a quote for it saying how great it is "/ Pathetic.

I still go by what I say about getting rid of Mods. Habbo would be so far better of without it...

[fitcovboy]

I got banned for Illegal Activity/T&C Violation which erm lets look at that rule:
Illegal Activity/T&C Violation - includes: promoting the use of illegal drugs, password phishing, keylogging, using third party software to disrupt the programming of the hotel, discussion about illegal activities, violent role playing, role playing cyber-****, making death threats, making bomb threats, disclosing or sharing or posting confidential Sulake information on the web or via email or any electronic or printed form, as per your Terms and Conditions agreement, underage Habbo players, etc. These bans are often permanent bans.
So i breached them how?

[GommeInc]

You obviously used a third party program to get Habbo Club :rolleyes: Sarcasm never works on the internet... Maybe Habbo Club is confidential?

[Just-One]

LOL!

I was banned 3 months ago in a Safety X competition.

Bodja : What is the helptool easo?
Just-one: Hard on eh?
Just-one: one*

And 5 minutes later "banned for inappropriate and vulgar chat - 2 hours".

I got it sorted though.. :P


The ban does appear to be in error and I've informed the Mod in question and made a note on the account not to mark it against your account.

Funny thing is, I didn't get the email back for 2 weeks and she said I should have used to helptool. I did use the helptool and to date I still don't have a reply haha!

There was me thinking Sulake would want to encourage users, not ban them all and loose money? Ahah! Maybe thats a business tactic.. ban users, they create a new habbo and purchase loads more new furni and Habbo club? Eh? Sulake is that corrupt and abuse the fact that kids have no rights they probably would do something so morally wrong like that! :P

Just-one

[Frank459]

LOL!

I was banned 3 months ago in a Safety X competition.

Bodja : What is the helptool easo?
Just-one: Hard on eh?
Just-one: one*

And 5 minutes later "banned for inappropriate and vulgar chat - 2 hours".

I got it sorted though.. :P



Funny thing is, I didn't get the email back for 2 weeks and she said I should have used to helptool. I did use the helptool and to date I still don't have a reply haha!

There was me thinking Sulake would want to encourage users, not ban them all and loose money? Ahah! Maybe thats a business tactic.. ban users, they create a new habbo and purchase loads more new furni and Habbo club? Eh? Sulake is that corrupt and abuse the fact that kids have no rights they probably would do something so morally wrong like that! :P

Just-one


Rofl at you James. Getting banned xD


But saying that. The reasons for banning nowadays is just sick.

And you are Right James. Sulake are abusing the fact that they know kids have no rights what so ever.



And fitcovboy good luck on getting your account back.

[WHANGFACE]

Bah I've been banned for account sharing and they wouldn't lift it either ;l

But the point is, I didn't..

Good luck though.

[Boxiel]

I agree with all that we are saying. If an appeal against habbo could be started maybe... there would be a chance but I don't think that habbos would b botheres


I would, lol

[Just-One]

Just remember guys, you don't have rights.. but your parents do! Get your parents to always deal with issues and Sulake will have to rectify it. ;)

Just-one

[Memmish]

This is weird, i often use my dads computer aswell as mine, so it would look like two different ip address's are accessing the account, maybe this is risky?!?!

Habbos ridiculous bans are getting beyond a joke, and yet people who constantly break rules never seem to get banned :(

good luck with getting your account back John.

<3

[dirrty]

Pfft.

Sulake are really getting tight. Banning for no reason :/

These mods should really read what people write before taking action because someone wont be happy if its unfair. And if the mods are wrong, they wont say sorry, just be more careful next time or something lol.

I was perm banned for something i didnt do (long story) and took 10 months to get the account unbanned. That was just stupid.


Just remember guys, you don't have rights.. but your parents do! Get your parents to always deal with issues and Sulake will have to rectify it. ;)

Just-one

I agree, my mum sorted it all out for me :). And a habbo x lol

[ZL2.]

I didn't read the whole thread, but i thought it's against the Habbo way for ANYONE, Including your mum, dad, nan, grandad, Next door neighbour, best friend, or anyone else to log on your account, I always thought it was a perm ban if anyone else went on your account?

[fitcovboy]

Thanks memmish erm Becs just replied to my latest email so lets see if i get a result huh. I gave up on Emma.

[Just-One]

I didn't read the whole thread, but i thought it's against the Habbo way for ANYONE, Including your mum, dad, nan, grandad, Next door neighbour, best friend, or anyone else to log on your account, I always thought it was a perm ban if anyone else went on your account?

Your not allowed to account share, but what harm is it if you are a brother or sister using the same PC and IP all the time? Just because Sulake want you to have seperate accounts = 2 HC members = More furni = $$$$$ = Exploit Kids.

Anyway, no way Sulake can prove this unless you said in chat or console.. "I share this account".

Just-one

[alex 1889]

would this affect clones in anyway?

[Immenseman]

Any good news?

[Memmish]

Thanks memmish erm Becs just replied to my latest email so lets see if i get a result huh. I gave up on Emma.


ye be sure to keep us updated on how you get on.

[Cold.Black.Days]

say you logged on at his house at tht time lols

[ZL2.]

Your not allowed to account share, but what harm is it if you are a brother or sister using the same PC and IP all the time? Just because Sulake want you to have seperate accounts = 2 HC members = More furni = $$$$$ = Exploit Kids.

Anyway, no way Sulake can prove this unless you said in chat or console.. "I share this account".

Just-one
IDK, I remember some crap when we had newsies, saying "remember no matter who it is, dont let anyone on your account"

Meh, maybe i'm wrong ;)

[Stitch]

So if i logged on at a friends house on my account i'll get banned?

[ZL2.]

So if i logged on at a friends house on my account i'll get banned?
I don't know, as Just-one said, Maybe it's only if you say "I share this account"

[fitcovboy]

Your not allowed to account share, but what harm is it if you are a brother or sister using the same PC and IP all the time? Just because Sulake want you to have seperate accounts = 2 HC members = More furni = $$$$$ = Exploit Kids.

Anyway, no way Sulake can prove this unless you said in chat or console.. "I share this account".

Just-one

Hmm ok latest reply from Becs says otherwise:


Hi John
There is no legal action to take so please don't make those threats as they're just plain silly.

As for your ban, I will speak with Redtiz and find out what the situation is and someone from the UK office will let you know the outcome. Adults sharing accounts is not an issue. However, there's no way for anyone to know who's truly an adult and who is a teen, which you would understand as an adult, of course.

Cheers,
Becs

[Nemo]

This is weird, i often use my dads computer aswell as mine, so it would look like two different ip address's are accessing the account, maybe this is risky?!?!

Habbos ridiculous bans are getting beyond a joke, and yet people who constantly break rules never seem to get banned :(

good luck with getting your account back John.

<3i thought u were leaving -.-

and yeah habbo is just getting dumb... guys being ultra racist.... IGNORE and then ban ban ban for no reason. k, sue habbo =D i asked for a name change and got a reply saying yes but the name i wanted was taken so i replied saying another name which i had and they just ignored me, i sent another email and they sed no. i then replied saying i was already allowed just a different name and they didn't reply - so i've given up, i also provided proof of the email ¬.¬:eusa_wall

[ZL2.]

Hmm ok latest reply from Becs says otherwise:


Hi John
There is no legal action to take so please don't make those threats as they're just plain silly.

As for your ban, I will speak with Redtiz and find out what the situation is and someone from the UK office will let you know the outcome. Adults sharing accounts is not an issue. However, there's no way for anyone to know who's truly an adult and who is a teen, which you would understand as an adult, of course.

Cheers,
Becs
Usually means you're Scre'wed when they say "theres no way to find out if..."

Trust me, i know xP

[Boxiel]

Yes John, Best of luck to youxx

[Nixon!]

legal action with sulake most of the time ends in turmoil. ive been there and honestly it kinda looks bad for you since that is a stated FAQ that you cant share accounts but good luck with it

[Barmi]

Sorry, but legal action will get you nowhere. :( For starters, companies can hide behind T&Cs, EULAs, etc. in court. (And seeing as you agreed to the T&Cs when you created your Habbo, they have a fairly solid case. Of course hiding behind T&Cs isn't 100% foolproof, but in more cases than not... it is. :( ) Seriously, you would be wasting your time, especially with this (that people always seem to miss):


2.3 Sulake UK Ltd has no obligation to monitor the Website. However, we reserve the right to review materials posted to the Chat Room and Message Boards and to remove any materials at our sole discretion. Habbo reserves the right to terminate your access to the Chat Room and Message Boards, or the Site at any time, without notice, for any or no reason. The Habbo Hotel Moderator shall treat all colleagues and customers and suppliers on their merit irrespective of sex, age, marital status, colour, creed, race, ethnic or national origin.
Terms & Conditions of use are your best friend when using Habbo...
You can be banned for any or no reason, but a system has been put in place to try and justify the ban where possible. When it comes down to it though, if you have been banned inappropriately, the best you can do is appeal the ban. If the appeal doesn't get accepted, nothing more can be done, I would think. :(

I'm sorry to hear you've been banned in this way, although there seem to be some pieces of the jigsaw I'm missing. Unless the person on your account said "I'm on fitcov's account! ^_^", then I don't see any proof. Unless, of course, it uses IP... but some staff log on in the offices and at work. Good luck on getting your account unbanned though. :)

[ZL2.]

Sorry, but legal action will get you nowhere. :( For starters, companies can hide behind T&Cs, EULAs, etc. in court. (And seeing as you agreed to the T&Cs when you created your Habbo, they have a fairly solid case. Of course hiding behind T&Cs isn't 100% foolproof, but in more cases than not... it is. :( ) Seriously, you would be wasting your time, especially with this (that people always seem to miss):

Terms & Conditions of use are your best friend when using Habbo...
You can be banned for any or no reason, but a system has been put in place to try and justify the ban where possible. When it comes down to it though, if you have been banned inappropriately, the best you can do is appeal the ban. If the appeal doesn't get accepted, nothing more can be done, I would think. :(

I'm sorry to hear you've been banned in this way, although there seem to be some pieces of the jigsaw I'm missing. Unless the person on your account said "I'm on fitcov's account! ^_^", then I don't see any proof. Unless, of course, it uses IP... but some staff log on in the offices and at work. Good luck on getting your account unbanned though. :)
Lol, i got banned for that on AU :[

[Antony]

I understand the situation here and agree with people's comments on how pathetic Sulake are, But what gets me .. If your partner was logging onto your Habbo surely you'd have the same IP unless she didn't live with you, and I usually thought sharing credit cards etc etc is for serious couples living together?

What I also don't understand is why Sulake would randomly look up your account and see you have been account sharing with other users. Just seems like there isn't something you are telling us regarding this issue.

Threatening a multi-million pound company with legal action isn't really going to get you anywhere, Infact they will probably ignore you more than going by things the right way. If you read the terms and conditions you will find out they can remove your access at any time.

However, I also agree with what James says about banning accounts for you to make new ones and purchase Habbo club etc. Business tactic.

Good luck with getting your account back :)

[-:Undertaker:-]

"without notice, for any or no reason."

Thats disgusting, We pay for something and they can just ban you for NO-REASON!

[ZL2.]

"without notice, for any or no reason."

Thats disgusting, We pay for something and they can just ban you for NO-REASON!
You are asked to read the T&C. So its your own fault tbh..

[Just-One]

Sorry, but legal action will get you nowhere. :( For starters, companies can hide behind T&Cs, EULAs, etc. in court. (And seeing as you agreed to the T&Cs when you created your Habbo, they have a fairly solid case. Of course hiding behind T&Cs isn't 100% foolproof, but in more cases than not... it is. :( ) Seriously, you would be wasting your time, especially with this (that people always seem to miss):

Terms & Conditions of use are your best friend when using Habbo...
You can be banned for any or no reason, but a system has been put in place to try and justify the ban where possible. When it comes down to it though, if you have been banned inappropriately, the best you can do is appeal the ban. If the appeal doesn't get accepted, nothing more can be done, I would think. :(

I'm sorry to hear you've been banned in this way, although there seem to be some pieces of the jigsaw I'm missing. Unless the person on your account said "I'm on fitcov's account! ^_^", then I don't see any proof. Unless, of course, it uses IP... but some staff log on in the offices and at work. Good luck on getting your account unbanned though. :)


Also don't forget this in the terms and conditions also:


3.4 To the full extent permitted by law, the User agrees that Sulake UK Ltd will not be liable for any damages (including, without limitation, damages for any indirect or consequential or exemplary loss, including but not limited to loss of business opportunities, data, goodwill, projects, or profits) howsoever arising and whether in contract, tort or otherwise from the use of, or inability to use, the Website, or any of its contents and materials, or from any action or omission taken as a result of using the Website or any such contents, or any other matter relating to the Service.

3.5 In any event the User agrees that Sulake UK Ltd's liability for all damages and losses (including negligence) shall not in any circumstances exceed the amount paid by you, if any, for accessing the Website.

Which means, don't sue em for nothing otherwise you will pay all the fee's plus hey, if Sulake are found guilty, then they will only pay back that £10 you spent with them without including the court fee's of god knows wooo!

[fitcovboy]

You all seem to be forgetting one thing ... THE LAW ... yes sulake are not immune to it, and in fact they shave some laws by claiming to be a game and not a chat site, otherwise the laws would be very much tightened down on them, they have a slight loophole, but it will not last forever, there customer relations suck and they cannot say you have no right to get your money back, in these days and times an attititude like that simply is not justified, they cannot extort money from children and then take no responsability, i have the money to go to court and am prepared to do so.

[Barmi]

Also don't forget this in the terms and conditions also:



Which means, don't sue em for nothing otherwise you will pay all the fee's plus hey, if Sulake are found guilty, then they will only pay back that &#163;10 you spent with them without including the court fee's of god knows wooo!
Exactly. :) So... you would only be able to get back the money you spent on credits (and by the way.. the thrones count for &#163;0 ^_^). I don't know how much Mr Fit spent on credits, but I'm willing to bet that it would not be more than the cost of a civil court case.

The likely result is that the law suit will not go through successfully (because of the T&Cs you agreed to), and you'll have to pay the court fees all by yourself. ;S

If anyone didn't read the T&Cs when creating their Habbo, or didn't understand them, then have another read, like James and myself. If there's something you don't understand, I'm pretty sure someone would kindly explain it to you.

http://www.habbohotel.co.uk/footer_pages/terms_and_conditions.html

Note: I reread your post on page 4 fitcov... so fingers crossed you might be unbanned, eh? :)

Edit:


You all seem to be forgetting one thing ... THE LAW ... yes sulake are not immune to it, and in fact they shave some laws by claiming to be a game and not a chat site, otherwise the laws would be very much tightened down on them, they have a slight loophole, but it will not last forever, there customer relations suck and they cannot say you have no right to get your money back, in these days and times an attititude like that simply is not justified, they cannot extort money from children and then take no responsability, i have the money to go to court and am prepared to do so.
Yes, THE LAW. The Terms and Conditions are absolutely riddled with ways they become exempt from such law suits. Besides, what exactly would you sue them for? I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be able to prosecute, either. If I were in your shoes, I would think about exactly what I want to do, before I go ahead and spend cash on it. Simply said; it would be a waste of money and time, unless you could find something to convince us, (and more importantly - a court).

They do not commit extortion, either.


extort verb (extorted, extorting) to obtain (money or information, etc) by threats or violence.

You need to be over 18 or seek parental permission before you buy credits. Sulake Ltd. and Habbo Ltd. are very successful companies that will have law-d00ds working on all aspects of their company, and will have more than adequate protection.

I am not supporting either party (aside from hoping that you get your account back), but am merely posing as an advocate to your comments. :)

[AJuk]

i was banned 3 times.
first time i was banned was for mis-spelling a word. and it came out as "bobba" and a mod was there and banned me for 2 hours say i used offencive terms.
the other 2 where accusing me of using flooding tool. but i type really fast.
thats why i mis-spell things.
and thats why the accuse me of flooding.
so i tried to ask them if they could reverse them, and they wanted to know why. i tld them and i got ignored.

[Drewar]

Sorry to hear about your loss, but this isn't News or Rumour about Habbo Hotel UK.


so leaving me no alternative but to take out legal action regarding the issue.

You all seem to be forgetting one thing ... THE LAW ... yes sulake are not immune to it, and in fact they shave some laws by claiming to be a game and not a chat site, otherwise the laws would be very much tightened down on them, they have a slight loophole, but it will not last forever, there customer relations suck and they cannot say you have no right to get your money back, in these days and times an attititude like that simply is not justified, they cannot extort money from children and then take no responsability, i have the money to go to court and am prepared to do so.

As a Habbo, you have 0 legal rights against Sulake. When you signed up, you agreed that all "furniture, credits, Habbo Club Memberships" etc is property of Sulake, not you.

Sorry to hear though and hopefully you will get unbanned!

[-Soph-]

God this is pathetic.
No wonder the number of people using habbo is plumeting.

I can't believe people are getting banned for saying
"I got gold HC":rolleyes:

[AJuk]

wy can they do that ??

[fitcovboy]

It is news regarding the controversial can u share accounts, if you are over 18 it is acceptable, if not it is not, i have had an email from emma stating if i can prove i am over 18 then my account will be un-banned.



Sorry to hear about your loss, but this isn't News or Rumour about Habbo Hotel UK.




As a Habbo, you have 0 legal rights against Sulake. When you signed up, you agreed that all "furniture, credits, Habbo Club Memberships" etc is property of Sulake, not you.

Sorry to hear though and hopefully you will get unbanned!

[Barmi]

wy can they do that ??
I presume you were responding to the post above yours. (Even though I highly doubt that anyone was banned for saying "I've got gold HC", I'll still give you an answer.)

As far as I interpret the Terms and Conditions, you "can have your access terminated for any or no reason." So although I doubt they were banned for that reason; it still remains that a reason is not needed to have your access terminated.

"Why?"
"Because they said so."
"But that's not fair."
"Well you agreed to it when you created your Habbo."

Hence the reason you should (although most don't) read the T&Cs when you create your Habbo.

Welcome to the Habbo Hotel Website. Following are the Terms and Conditions that govern your use of the Website. We would ask that if you are under 16 years old that you check with your parents or guardians before you agree to the Terms and Conditions, and you get them to explain anything in this document that you might not understand.

And while we're on the subject of legality... what do you think the response would be if we emailed in asking for all personal information held on file about our individual, as per the Data Protection Act? :)


8) DATA PROTECTION

The information that you provide about yourself to us will only be used in accordance with our Privacy Policy (http://www.habbohotel.co.uk/footer_pages/privacy_policy.html). Such Privacy Policy does not apply to websites operated by third parties. Sulake UK Ltd is registered under and adheres to the Data Protection Act (Registration Number Z5263105).
Naah... that would just be awkward and evil. Still, I would be interested in the reply.

Edit: And yes I do find it interesting that they allow over 18s to participate in account sharing, providing they can give valid evidence they are over 18 - especially as that is not stated anywhere that I can see on the Habbo Hotel site. Their stance on account sharing has always been absolute, and yet it appears it isn't, which has been kept from the majority? Anyway, I do vouch for the fact that "over 18s are allowed to share accounts" fits in this forum, because people were not aware of it before. In true tradition... nice find, +REP! ;)

[Wig44.]

Most habbos have more than one person on the same account, so whydid they ignore millions and ban fitcovboy?

Now, they will be able to hide behind Ts & Cs so taking legal action isn't going to unnerve them.

If anyone here was fortunate enought to partake in business studies (sulake obviously havent) and communication they would learn that for a firm (company) to be succesful, the firm must have good customer relations and (going to all the emails people sent in that were ignored) good customer support with clear and fast communication. Now, sulake have achieved neither of those, so, over the process of time, habbohotel and more importantly sulake, will lose business.

The fact pver 18's are allowed to account share is probably BS, I think this is maybe the fact they don't want to go to court? Or, it could be true but they didn't want to reveal to the vast majority who are most likely to be teens who would then claim to be 18 and above causing hassle.

This is revolting and I will search for a loophole aswell.

Wig44 :)

[Barmi]

Most habbos have more than one person on the same account, so whydid they ignore millions and ban fitcovboy?
I doubt that "most" do. Millions of Habbos do not share accounts. (There are 6 million unique users each month - I find it daring to suggest that 1/3rd of them share their account.) Maybe they wanted to make a precedent, and show people that they are not slacking when it comes to banning?

Now, they will be able to hide behind Ts & Cs so taking legal action isn't going to unnerve them.

If anyone here was fortunate enought to partake in business studies (sulake obviously havent) and communication they would learn that for a firm (company) to be succesful, the firm must have good customer relations and (going to all the emails people sent in that were ignored) good customer support with clear and fast communication. Now, sulake have achieved neither of those, so, over the process of time, habbohotel and more importantly sulake, will lose business.
Communications was only compulsory at my college if you got 1 grade C or lower at GCSE. I do Law, Lit, Gov&Pol, Maths, General Studies and Critical Thinking, so I shouldn't know what you have just posted? Unfortunately, a bit of common sense will tell you that. ;) However, I will quote something that my Law teacher said to the whole class before the course began, which rings true for any subject: "Just because you are doing it at A-Level, does not mean you know everything you need to know about a subject. It provides you with a baseline understanding (advanced, yes, but still baseline compared to what you would go on to study in degree level)." Sulake will have people working for them who have degrees in Business and Economics, and will not easily be outdone by college students. ;)

Therefore, I beg to differ from what you said. Sulake will have specialists in each area of their company. They will have individuals familiar with national law to write their legal documents, and the executives of the company will be familiar with common business practices that you have outlined. In fact, (if you have noticed,) Habbo are working heavily on their Player Support areas. (Hiring more staff, and response times are quickening up. They even have a member of staff that does weekend PS!)

The fact pver 18's are allowed to account share is probably BS, I think this is maybe the fact they don't want to go to court? Or, it could be true but they didn't want to reveal to the vast majority who are most likely to be teens who would then claim to be 18 and above causing hassle.

This is revolting and I will search for a loophole aswell.

Wig44 :)
Good luck in searching for your loophole. ;) If you do manage to find one, I give you all the best of luck, because a college student is not going to be much good against a company that has specialists in business and law. Habbo haven't said "18s are aloud to share, please don't sue us" at all. They are not scared, because nothing can come of it. They are more than adequately protected, as it stands.

[Wig44.]

I doubt that "most" do. Millions of Habbos do not share accounts. Maybe they wanted to make a precedent, and show people that they are not slacking when it comes to banning?

Communications was only compulsory at my college if you got 1 grade C or lower at GCSE. I do Law, Lit, Gov&Pol, Maths, General Studies and Critical Thinking, so I shouldn't know what you have just posted? Unfortunately, a bit of common sense will tell you that. ;)

Therefore, I beg to differ from what you said. Sulake will have specialists in each area of their company. They will have individuals familiar with national law to write their legal documents, and the executives of the company will be familiar with common business practices that you have outlined. In fact, (if you have noticed,) Habbo are working heavily on their Player Support areas. (Hiring more staff, and response times are quickening up. They even have a member of staff that does weekend PS!)

Good luck in searching for your loophole. ;) If you do manage to find one, I give you all the best of luck, because a college student is not going to be much good against a company that has specialists in business and law. Habbo haven't said "18s are aloud to share, please don't sue us" at all. They are not scared, because nothing can come of it. They are more than adequately protected, as it stands.

Sorry, but I feel you are patronizing me. Also I didn't get C or lower in my GCSE but I went to a college that specialised in business studies which is how I know. And also, I'm leaving college very soon infact im 17 in october.

Also I never said that they said 18s are aloud to share please don't sue us... and also I never said they are scared. I have stated against court action because it is pretty obvious a multi million pound company would win any court action.

Sulake maybe working on customer support, but why is it people are still being ignored?

Also, you seem to be standing up for sulake saying, nope, no you cannot possibly challenge sulake it is hopeless. (although you are right :P )

Fitcovboy, you may aswell give them proof you are 18 or above, (if you are cos I dunno that much about you) and settle this.

[::d4nnyt::]

That is well bad about you getting banned for that. I think the answer to this is don't waste your money on habbo make a proper investment.




And while we're on the subject of legality... what do you think the response would be if we emailed in asking for all personal information held on file about our individual, as per the Data Protection Act? :)



So this means if I email them asking for all of my personal details that they have on record they would have no choice but to give me them?

[Barmi]

Sorry, but I feel you are patronizing me. I didn't get C or lower in my GCSE but I went to a colledge that specialised in business studies which is how I know. And also, I'm leaving college very soon infact im 17 in october.

Also I never said that they said 18s are aloud to share please don't sue us... and also I never said they are scared. I have stated against court action because it is pretty obvious a multi million pound company would win any court action.

Sulake maybe working on customer support, but why is it people are still being ignored?

Also, you seem to be standing up for sulake saying, nope, no you cannot possibly challenge sulake it is hopeless. (although you are right :P )

Fitcovboy, you may aswell give them proof you are 18 or above, (if you are cos I dunno that much about you) and settle this.
Not patronising, I was just giving a valid reason for why I didn't take communications... and as you said "anyone that took business or communications would have known X". I'm sorry if you were offended in any way - take what I say with a pinch of salt and sugar at the same time. ;) (Go you for going to nice college anyway.) Oh, and "working on" does not mean perfect. ;P

I'm not sticking up for Sulake - I'm playing the advocate role, as I usually do.

Edit:


So this means if I email them asking for all of my personal details that they have on record they would have no choice but to give me them?

Data Subject's Rights according to the 1998 Act

A data subject is entitled to make a written request to the data controller, accompanied by administration fee of &#163;10 or under (1998 prices) and be given within 40 days:

* a description of their data,
* the purposes for which it is being processed,
* people to whom it may be disclosed,
* the name of the organisation that is actually carrying out the processing of their data.

Data subjects have the right to have inaccurate data amended or deleted. The data user may issue an application form in order to obtain more details about you. If your data has been split up and registered under separate categories, you may be charged for each individual category.

They also have new rights of :

* preventing processing that is likely to cause damage or distress and to sue for compensation if damage or distress have been caused.
* they can prevent processing for direct marketing purposes, so anyone can stop the arrival of personalised junk mail by writing to the data controller.
* they are entitled to be informed of the logic used in automated decision making, e.g. checking a person's creditworthiness using a computer program.
* they have the right to ask the Commissioner to check whether certain processing of their data is being carried out unlawfully.


Exemptions to Subject Access Requests

There are a number of stated exemptions which provide reasons why personal data should not be released in a given case. These notably include:
&#183; health data which, if released, might damage the physical or mental health of the individual
&#183; data used for research purposes
&#183; examination scripts (but examiners' comments are not exempt)
&#183; journalism, literature and art
&#183; management forecasts, negotiations, etc
&#183; information which would reveal the identity of an unwilling third party.

Of course, you would have to check if the "administration fee" would be applicable first, before you chuck the money their way. ;P Please note though, that it was a general sweeping comment, and when I used the term "awkward", I meant it. It's too much of a clown around in reality. Plus, there would be much more you'd need to read up on.

[Just-One]

I'm playing the advocate role, as I usually do.

Stop stealing my job *sneers @ Barmi*

Anyhoo.. I can not believe 18 year olds ARE allowed to account share and kids can not. What stupid orangutan at Sulake decided up that rule? Talk about blimmem discrimination against age.. and exploiting kids not having rights.. Shees!


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http://www.robertsilvey.com/photos/uncategorized/orangutan.jpg
Says : Sure, you may account share if your over 18 :D Anyway BRB guys.. Gonna go BAN BANABAANABANA 'cause well, I love being a right old hypocrite when I say "Why FOMO and ban, when you can ignore.. it means everyone can stay on the hotel! :D"

[Barmi]

Stop stealing my job *sneers @ Barmi*

Anyhoo.. I can not believe 18 year olds ARE allowed to account share and kids can not. What stupid orangutan at Sulake decided up that rule? Talk about blimmem discrimination against age.. and exploiting kids not having rights.. Shees!


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LOL! :eusa_clap
Edit: Just saw you edited picture! Ooh la laa, that is one attractive monkey!

I found this also particularly amusing (the T&Cs are thrilling when you delve into them, y'know?):

2.3 Sulake UK Ltd has no obligation to monitor the Website. However, we reserve the right to review materials posted to the Chat Room and Message Boards and to remove any materials at our sole discretion. Habbo reserves the right to terminate your access to the Chat Room and Message Boards, or the Site at any time, without notice, for any or no reason. The Habbo Hotel Moderator shall treat all colleagues and customers and suppliers on their merit irrespective of sex, age, marital status, colour, creed, race, ethnic or national origin.

Ah well...
I also wonder why under 18s aren't able to share accounts, yet over 18s are, and to what extent. Do both share-ers have to be over 18 aswell? I might take a visit to the Help Tool tomorrow. :)

[Just-One]

LOL! :eusa_clap
Edit: Just saw you edited picture! Ooh la laa, that is one attractive monkey!

I found this also particularly amusing:

Ah well...
I also wonder why under 18s aren't able to share accounts, yet over 18s are, and to what extent. Do both share-ers have to be over 18 aswell? I might take a visit to the Help Tool tomorrow. :)

Wow your on to something there! Let's get onto the Office of Fair Trading with this post. ;)

[EDIT] Better yet!! WatchDog :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/contact_index.shtml ;)


Ashame it doesn't say..

The Habbo Hotel Moderator shall treat all colleagues and customers and suppliers on their merit irrespective of sex, age, marital status, colour, creed, race, ethnic or national origin. OR IF BECS LIKES YOU OR NOT CUZ LYK WE LOVE TO DISCRIMINATE THOSE WHO BECS HATE INNIT... LOL OBV JUST-ONE DNT COUNT IN DA T&C CUZ HE IZ 2 1337 FOR THESE!!!

[united-champ]

:D
i agree with undertaker!
i reproted a noob for scamming mea nd being stupid,
I get a message back,
Report using this link
.

lol..
Reprot sum1 for Swearing normally a IGNORE but they got a 2Hours bans! :D

[VersionUpdate]

I got a ban for illegal activity and like TSS violation or summet?
And I didnt do nutin?

[brodeo]

Legal action... someones rather addictive.

Read the TOC's. They can delete are furni or account at ANY time.

Just-one (Admin) - Do not insult users.

[Evescence]

Its simple don't share accounts, but its still unfair.

On RuneScape account sharing is illegal

[Hazza]

I got banned for Illegal Activity/T&C Violation which erm lets look at that rule:
Illegal Activity/T&C Violation - includes: promoting the use of illegal drugs, password phishing, keylogging, using third party software to disrupt the programming of the hotel, discussion about illegal activities, violent role playing, role playing cyber-****, making death threats, making bomb threats, disclosing or sharing or posting confidential Sulake information on the web or via email or any electronic or printed form, as per your Terms and Conditions agreement, underage Habbo players, etc. These bans are often permanent bans.
So i breached them how?

I Dont no how u shud breach them but, my best mate, got banned for Illegal Activity/T&C Violatins About 2 Weeks Ago. And Nothing has been done.. please.. could you talk to me, if you no a way in which to breach habbo?

[Art]

I sometimes go on my account at my mates house... diff ip :(

[JT-Fan]

Pfft they don't ban those that need to eb banned and ban the oenes that dont.

[Evolution]

The reason fitcovboy was banned and no one else was, and the reason over 18s are allowed to share accounts but teens are not is because the rules of the hotel change per person.

When their staff was hacked, I basically informed them of the situation and gave them lists of furni and where furni was taken from and I traded for some to give back to them via dropping or trade. Instead, they change my password and log in as me and take them, then refuse to refund me but refund everyone else effected?

I won a competition for a love heart badge + vip badge, yet they all get removed as "no one in the hotel is meant to have vip badges", yet people get them for no reason right now?

[:Hazel]

I sometimes go on my account at my mates house... diff ip :(

That shouldn't matter.

Some of you seem surprised and shocked at being banned for stupid things?
Did you not realise that this is how habbo is now, they don't care for customer service, only themselves. Nothing like it used to be.

[Just-One]

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[fitcovboy]

No what we should do, is instead of everybody giving Sulake money, club together and make another site, no better protest than that! Because their customer relations stink, i have received another rude email, the staff think they can talk you like rubbish.

[Just-One]

No what we should do, is instead of everybody giving Sulake money, club together and make another site, no better protest than that! Because their customer relations stink, i have received another rude email, the staff think they can talk you like rubbish.

All kids go through a stage of "I wanna open my own habbo". In the long run, that would never work. You need finance, which kids do not have, you need support, and well, you may have us 10 peoples support but not the 10,000 odd players who play habbo and have no idea what goes on at sulake till a year into playing when they've been banned for stupid reasons.

I think my idea of protesting by encouraging kids to put up posters in schools would be great!

[fitcovboy]

Well yes, something needs doing, the latest update is customer support are supposed to be phoning me.

[Memmish]

I think my idea of protesting by encouraging kids to put up posters in schools would be great!

many people don't even admit to playing habbo, let alone putting up posters in their windows or at their school!

[Barker]

It seems habbohotel have now started banning people if someone logs into another account owned by that habbo, it does not matter if it is your partner who you share credit cards with! I have an alternative habbo namely rarefurnishop that my partner logged into last night, to my surprise i got up today and tried to log onto fitcovboy, only to discover he is banned permanently, however rarefurnishop was not, so they targetted the account with 150T's worth of furni, they now say they will not lift the ban, so leaving me no alternative but to take out legal action regarding the issue.

You can't take legal action, as it says when you signed up. You don't actually own the pixels.

[:Hazel]

Well yes, something needs doing, the latest update is customer support are supposed to be phoning me.

I wouldn't bother sitting by the phone if I was you.

[---MAD---]

ouch that is bad :( but after all, it is for safety to get rid of those that keylog other habbos etc :).

[Just-One]

ouch that is bad :( but after all, it is for safety to get rid of those that keylog other habbos etc :).

How does banning account sharing for under 18's aid safety for those who keylog other habbos? lol.

Regarding the comment about those who dont admit to playing habbo, well, they can now be proud of being anti-habbo eh? ;)

Just-one

[webster2]

when i said a scam site (not mine) jk it is i got banned for Illegal Activity/T&C Violation so you obviously aren't telling us everything

[fitcovboy]

when i said a scam site (not mine) jk it is i got banned for Illegal Activity/T&C Violation so you obviously aren't telling us everything

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8929/banid9.png


And erm that icludes these:

Illegal Activity/T&C Violation - includes: promoting the use of illegal drugs, password phishing, keylogging, using third party software to disrupt the programming of the hotel, discussion about illegal activities, violent role playing, role playing cyber-****, making death threats, making bomb threats, disclosing or sharing or posting confidential Sulake information on the web or via email or any electronic or printed form, as per your Terms and Conditions agreement, underage Habbo players, etc. These bans are often permanent bans.

A reply from Emma:

Hi there It's not Becs' department either - she doesn't deal with bans on the UK. Have you used the Habbo Help Tool? You were banned for sending this: Sent by fitcovboy 17/09/06 to XXXX Ok well most of you know i own the habbo rarefurnishop i am letting sum1 else use it for a bit so it is not me on it ok ... just a warning so you do not msg if you have on list thinking it is me. You're not allowed to swap accounts around like that.



A Reply from Bec's:

Hi John
There is no legal action to take so please don't make those threats as they're just plain silly.

As for your ban, I will speak with Redtiz and find out what the situation is and someone from the UK office will let you know the outcome. Adults sharing accounts is not an issue. However, there's no way for anyone to know who's truly an adult and who is a teen, which you would understand as an adult, of course.

Cheers,
Becs

The latest reply from Emma:

Hi John Thanks for the explanation. I'll pass your number on to Player Support and they will contact you. You should thereafter, have no need to contact me again. Many thanks! Emma

So what exactly am i not telling you?

[majesticdragon]

That is so immature to ban u for that .... it's hardly harming anyone this needs protesting against now lol u sent me that message :D Anyway it is almost perfetic as my two bans both 2 hour bans fro vulagrity


1) I told someone to move out of a door way and stop being racist ....
2) I don't no cause I logged on and went in ym room sat down and I got banned Habbo is getting just stupid with rules now.