What is North Korea Capable Of?

[VanHalen]

This could actualy develop into a serious matter. If North Korea are found guilty of possessing weapons of mass distruction, will someone like George Bush go to war with them. This may be 10 times worse than Iraq because WE KNOW (ABC and BBC Sources) That radiation levels have soared near Korea e.g. Eussia and China. Their leader Kim is capable of a lot and may bring the world to Nuclear War if he is interfered with. He has an obsession with James Bond and action movies and once kidnknapped a coulple because he saw it in a film. Although The US is capable of taking out North Korea, China and Russia are actualy agreeing with Kim's nuclear programme.

What's your view on this subject?

[Hecktix]

My view is hmph.

Answer to the title though:

Of killing a large majority of the world.

[VanHalen]

If this resorts to war literaly hundreds of thousands will die. Nuclear bombs kill hundreds of thousands at a time and millions over years. Remeber Hiroshima, Nagazaki? That still happens today.

[uh huh her]

Causing world war 3.

[cocaine]

Why dont they boot out the crazed North Korean leader and bring a sensible one?

Oh, and if george bush can keep his fat nose out of it maybe we might not die.

Stupid inferfering leader.

[Axel]

Nuclear Holocaust

[Swastika]

Why does everybody automatically assume George Bush is a moron?
Its not JUST him who says "America will fight back", its the whole whitehouse and his "MP's" and such. Stop just calling Bush fgs, its not only him.
Although he is a moronic fool..

[Kymux]

'What is North Korea Capable Of?'

Spelling North Korea?

[jerremy lol]

i watched this show where an american went to north korea and they arent allowed cell phones, magazines, or any informations about the outside world, and the american was undercover as a eye doctor, and when they gave around 20 people their eyesight, they didnt thank the eye doctor, and bowed down to the north korean leader, so there are no chances of them over throwing their leader if they bow down to him for something he didnt even have to do with =/

[Josh-H]

Causing world war 3.

World War 3 will never happen, as all it would be would be each country to press a button and the entire world's population will die.

[Kymux]

It's an expression meaning anarchy and terror in the world. Not as a literate point.

[PaintYourTarget]

North Korea have apparently tested 1 weapon, and that's all we know that they have.
On this case, I think the U.N will back the Coalition if Korea did pose a threat, but at the moment I think they are trying to blockade North Korean imports so that they can't as readily get the needed parts.
Russia and China are supplying North Korea with the technology (I think), so they will want to carry on trading but they can also stop if Korea pose a threat.
I dount anything will happen, it'll be another Cuban Missile Crisis or Cold War.

[Chaz]

Why does everybody automatically assume George Bush is a moron?
Its not JUST him who says "America will fight back", its the whole whitehouse and his "MP's" and such. Stop just calling Bush fgs, its not only him.
Although he is a moronic fool..

He is.

[PaintYourTarget]

He is.
Study his affects on American Politics and Lifestyle then tell me whether he's a moron or not.
(I cba to do it myself.)

[Chaz]

Study his affects on American Politics and Lifestyle then tell me whether he's a moron or not.
(I cba to do it myself.)

Why start a war with NK? Theres no point? That gives them a chance to actully USE there wepons? :rolleyes:

[PaintYourTarget]

Why start a war with NK? Theres no point? That gives them a chance to actully USE there wepons? :rolleyes:
Merh, it's a quick and easy way of getting rid of them.
And atleast we get to boast we got 'em first.

[Lubricant]

The "Bible Codes" said there is gonna be a Nuclear Holocaust in 2006. Couple months left and as some news sites have said, if America and other countries keep "annoying/pesturising (sp?)" him about the tests, then he's gonna take action.

[sarey]

This could actualy develop into a serious matter. If North Korea are found guilty of possessing weapons of mass distruction, will someone like George Bush go to war with them. This may be 10 times worse than Iraq because WE KNOW (ABC and BBC Sources) That radiation levels have soared near Korea e.g. Eussia and China. Their leader Kim is capable of a lot and may bring the world to Nuclear War if he is interfered with. He has an obsession with James Bond and action movies and once kidnknapped a coulple because he saw it in a film. Although The US is capable of taking out North Korea, China and Russia are actualy agreeing with Kim's nuclear programme.

What's your view on this subject?

My view on this is this;

I think North Korea or whatever should be punished for testing a nuclear weapon, and that they should have consequences if they still are testing.
Although, that does not mean it should result in 'WW3' as its just pathetic, sure, they test nuclear weapons, its no reason to wipe out the worlds population! However, consequences should occur for them, but George Bush better not start a war, because if he does, he will be responsable for alot more than just that.
If you understood any of that, goodie! :eusa_clap :P

[DiscoPat]

America wont even dare to do that - not because they cant but because
they are in war like with 2 other countries and korea would actually be able to hit america

[DCeption]

I dont think they would be used for war, i think they could be used for protection against war.

[Tash.]

Just been on the news that the UN have imposed Military and Economic sanctions on North Korea, and tensions are high as their representative in the UN walked out after the announcement. I think if the UN does end up having to take action any further than sanctions, NK could use the Nuke.

[DCeption]

Just been on the news that the UN have imposed Military and Economic sanctions on North Korea, and tensions are high as their representative in the UN walked out after the announcement. I think if the UN does end up having to take action any further than sanctions, NK could use the Nuke.

O dear, this is really bloody clever, lets use a nuke and america, then they will retaliate, What on earth is wrong with people these days, if the bombs are used the whole world will be totally changed!

[cocaine]

I feel like getting down to the UN and telling them exactly what I think.

[^.^]

world war 3 is a exageration if president bush declares war it will be his favourite " war on terror " and yes many people will die if he does choose to do this and a few countries inside the un such as russia and china may back korea making things even worse.

[PaintYourTarget]

The "Bible Codes" said there is gonna be a Nuclear Holocaust in 2006. Couple months left and as some news sites have said, if America and other countries keep "annoying/pesturising (sp?)" him about the tests, then he's gonna take action.

The UN stated that if the U.S.A continues pressurising North Korea, it will be seen as an act of war.


My view on this is this;

I think North Korea or whatever should be punished for testing a nuclear weapon, and that they should have consequences if they still are testing.
Although, that does not mean it should result in 'WW3' as its just pathetic, sure, they test nuclear weapons, its no reason to wipe out the worlds population! However, consequences should occur for them, but George Bush better not start a war, because if he does, he will be responsable for alot more than just that.
If you understood any of that, goodie! :eusa_clap :P

We are allowed the bomb, so why aren't they?
We just don't trust them with it.



America wont even dare to do that - not because they cant but because
they are in war like with 2 other countries and korea would actually be able to hit america

The Bush government have already dragged their people through 2 wars, both of which have had a very questionable basis and high death count. I doubt they'd receive support for a 3rd war.
As Bear-Max has said, they'd only be able to hit Alaska.

[Bear-Max]

I feel like getting down to the UN and telling them exactly what I think.
Tell them what? That the Koreans should be able to get away with unnacceptable things?

The fact of the matter is North Korea won't/can't do very much. They have enough nuclear material to make about 6 bombs. The USA has 3000+ bombs that they could launch at any time. At the moment, North Korea could only send a missile that would reach Alaska. A (mostly) ice-laden land with not a very large population. The USA could lauch a strike on any country on the globe.

So North Korea would, in launching a nuclear missile, commission their own downfall. I know Kim Jong-Il is crazy... but is he that crazy? If anything, it's going to be South Korea that feels his wrath.

[Desjardens]

Mass Distruction.

[RedStratocas]

Oh, and if george bush can keep his fat nose out of it maybe we might not die.

Actually, it's his job to get his nose in there. His only problem is not being serious with negotiations. He said last year that he would not tolerate North Korea having nuclear weapons. Now that they do, he hasent done anything.

Its funny how he invaded Iraq because he believed there MIGHT be WMD's, but he KNOWS that North Korea has Nuclear weapons, and he barely says a word.

But, it's the UN's job for negotiations for right now. We need to talk to them. I saw a right-wing nut job on some news show who says "we cant talk to them, we cant reward them for this". What? How is negotiating awarding someone? They arent 5 year olds doing something bad for attention.

Oh, and North Korea would be stupid to use the weapons anywhere. The U.S. has enough nuclear weapons to kill everyone on earth 15 times over.

[Hurts]

War? That's two countries now isnt it, Iran & North Korea. I can see another war starting with USA and the UK will back the USA up so we'll be in it.

[mmhmm.]

Actually, it's his job to get his nose in there. His only problem is not being serious with negotiations. He said last year that he would not tolerate North Korea having nuclear weapons. Now that they do, he hasent done anything.

Its funny how he invaded Iraq because he believed there MIGHT be WMD's, but he KNOWS that North Korea has Nuclear weapons, and he barely says a word.

But, it's the UN's job for negotiations for right now. We need to talk to them. I saw a right-wing nut job on some news show who says "we cant talk to them, we cant reward them for this". What? How is negotiating awarding someone? They arent 5 year olds doing something bad for attention.
i usually agree with you, but from what has happened today (like North Korea walking out of the UN Security Council meeting before hearing everyone), I dont think North Korea is going to listen to anything the UN says. They have a pretty hostile attitude at the moment towards anyone who wants to tell them what to do.

[RedStratocas]

War? That's two countries now isnt it, Iran & North Korea. I can see another war starting with USA and the UK will back the USA up so we'll be in it.

We wont be starting a new war any time soon. The President says he will not pull out of Iraq any time during his presidency, so if something happens, it'll have to wait until 2009 for us to do something.

[Desjardens]

The US likes war, face it, somthings going to happen

[mmhmm.]

The US likes war, face it, somthings going to happen
You cant generalize like that. Its not all the US that likes war, its the presidential cabinet and its supporters who do. It could completely change after the 2008 Presidential Election.

[RedStratocas]

The US likes war, face it, somthings going to happen

The president argueably likes war, but the people certainly dont. I think the percentage of people in support of the war in Iraq right now is in the low 20's. His aproval rating is in the 30's. Im hoping the Democrats take back the house and congress this november. *cough*impeachment*cough*crosses fingers*

[mmhmm.]

The president argueably likes war, but the people certainly dont. I think the percentage of people in support of the war in Iraq right now is in the low 20's. His aproval rating is in the 30's. Im hoping the Democrats take back the house and congress this november. *cough*impeachment*cough*crosses fingers*
that's what i said, in different words

and impeachment will most definantly NOT happen :p

[Desjardens]

The president argueably likes war, but the people certainly dont. I think the percentage of people in support of the war in Iraq right now is in the low 20's. His aproval rating is in the 30's. Im hoping the Democrats take back the house and congress this november. *cough*impeachment*cough*crosses fingers*

He cant get back into power, so he's takingit all as he wants to see it happen

[mmhmm.]

He cant get back into power, so he's takingit all as he wants to see it happen
he's taking what?

[RedStratocas]

that's what i said, in different words

and impeachment will most definantly NOT happen :p

Not right now, no, but if Democrats take back the house, its certainly a possibility. Lets put it this way: The last president, arguably one of the greatest presidents of all time, almost got impeached for a sex scandal. In my opinion, 50,000 unjust deaths in war is a better reason to be impeached than getting some pleasure.


He cant get back into power, so he's takingit all as he wants to see it happen

He is in power. He has more power than any president in history. The 3 branch balence is being skewed dangerously twards the executive branch.

[Desjardens]

he's taking what?

Advantage of his power to do what he wants

[RedStratocas]

Advantage of his power to do what he wants

Obviously. Thats the whole point of presidency. Its up to the people to elect someone who wants to do what the masses want to do.

[mmhmm.]

Not right now, no, but if Democrats take back the house, its certainly a possibility. Lets put it this way: The last president, arguably one of the greatest presidents of all time, almost got impeached for a sex scandal. In my opinion, 50,000 unjust deaths in war is a better reason to be impeached than getting some pleasure.



He is in power. He has more power than any president in history. The 3 branch balence is being skewed dangerously twards the executive branch.

Ok, you're definantly a democrat. I am too, but I dont think Clinton was the greatest president of all time. And technically, Clinton was impeached because he was charged by Congress, but not removed. You dont have to be removed to be impeached.

If the Democrats take the house, yeah I suppose its a possibility, but they're have only been 2 successfully impeached presidents, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. So its possible, but not very.

[RedStratocas]

Ok, you're definantly a democrat. I am too, but I dont think Clinton was the greatest president of all time. And technically, Clinton was impeached because he was charged by Congress, but not removed. You dont have to be removed to be impeached.

If the Democrats take the house, yeah I suppose its a possibility, but they're have only been 2 successfully impeached presidents, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. So its possible, but not very.

Actually, Im not a democrat, Im indiependent. But since indipendent isnt a party, Im siding with democrats. I dont think he was the greatest, but definatly in the top 25%.

Anyway, Im just hoping. I cant wait until 2009.

[Desjardens]

Just dont vote! Dont you watch those CNN commercials?

[mmhmm.]

Just dont vote! Dont you watch those CNN commercials?
didnt you see the "Vote or Die" campaign last election?

[sarey]

We are allowed the bomb, so why aren't they?
We just don't trust them with it.

Exactly my point? :rolleyes:

[alexxxxx]

Ban imports and exports of the country. They will suffer.

[sl4rt]

Its Team America all over again! :P

[RedStratocas]

;2359336']Ban imports and exports of the country. They will suffer.

Depends on how many countries do it. The U.S. banned exports from Cuba... hasent done anything.


Just dont vote! Dont you watch those CNN commercials?

No, because CNN is stupid.


Its Team America all over again! :P

...no it's not.

[sl4rt]

Depends on how many countries do it. The U.S. banned exports from Cuba... hasent done anything.



No, because CNN is stupid.



...no it's not.
joke fuckface

[sarey]

Okay, this debate is getting outta hand.

Whatever happens, its for the best?
If U.S decide to go to war, i guess its there choice and to them, think its for the best, if North Korea decide to test a nuclear weapon again, their choice.
But well, everything happens for a reason. =/

[FlyingJesus]

Just dont vote! Dont you watch those CNN commercials?

I know this isn't about Korea but not voting will hardly make things better. Think about it, the people who don't vote are those who don't like the leaders. Those who do like them will still vote, and all the idiots not voting will complain when extreme warmongerers and such get into power, even though it's their own fault for putting up no opposition.

On topic: I don't think the initial thread made much sense. "Guilty" of possessing WMDs? We know they have them, so in that sense they are, but why is it a guilty thing? We have them, America have them, plenty of other countries have them, so why should North Korea not be allowed to have them?

They admitted to doing underground nuclear tests, and it's not like they were hush-hush about it, they announced it globally when they did it (rather than trying to keep it quiet). I don't think Korea have done anything wrong, and for the US to try to push them into giving up their nukes is just stupid.

Last time the US asking Korea not to develop nuclear power (not even weapons then, just power) they said no and the Vietnam War happened. America have only lost one war, and that was against North Korea, so why are they so forward in making war on them again?

[Kingzy]

Causing world war 3.

Exactly that.

Kim Jhong Lee is a... disturbed man, and the world may have to suffer for that. I believe that some, and MORE than one country need to go to war for this, and NO, George Bush will NOT get off his rear to notice that "Hey, North Korea has Nuclear Missiles that are set at the world, Nah, let's fight Iraq because they can't fight back"

[VanHalen]

I can see Kim turning into someone like Saddam Hussein or another dictator.

[cocaine]

Saddam Hussein has some control over his power though, and he was a clever man. Kim's just mad.


I can see Kim turning into someone like Saddam Hussein or another dictator.

[VanHalen]

Saddam Hussein has some control over his power though, and he was a clever man. Kim's just mad.

Lol I know this sounds stupid but Osama Bin Laden may appear clever (with not being caught and all) but he isn't the brains behind his survival, like Saddam wasn't the brains when he was in hiding.

[PaintYourTarget]

I can see Kim turning into someone like Saddam Hussein or another dictator.
He already is a dictator.
People in North Korea are not allowed many things, such as contact with other countries.
Remember the huge chemical explosion there?
No? Because North Korea didn't allow international media or aid into the country to cover it.

[VanHalen]

He already is a dictator.
People in North Korea are not allowed many things, such as contact with other countries.
Remember the huge chemical explosion there?
No? Because North Korea didn't allow international media or aid into the country to cover it.

Then how did we get the images of the weapons being paraded and the North Korean Army then?

[cocaine]

Then how did we get the images of the weapons being paraded and the North Korean Army then?

Undercover..


He already is a dictator.
People in North Korea are not allowed many things, such as contact with other countries.
Remember the huge chemical explosion there?
No? Because North Korea didn't allow international media or aid into the country to cover it.

Well how do you know about it then?

[VanHalen]

If the media were undercover then it just goes to show that the North Koreans aren't exactly as strict as we think.

[FlyingJesus]

They do let out some images and such, and they let in ambassadors who can give reports. It's a "closed" country because they don't want capitalist images getting in because it destroys the morale of communism (because capitalism is better).

[VanHalen]

I guess anyone can get hold of any footage e.g. if it's sent out by spies, like what's been happening ith Osama's home vidoes from Afghanistan.

[sl4rt]

other than the fact most videos off him arent real

[lSander]

Tsernobõl >;)
we had this raidiation going on in estonia like 30-20 years ago, but not a big radiation :)
I would liek to see the mushroom that comes, when the bomb explodes ;D

[VanHalen]

Tsernobõl >;)
we had this raidiation going on in estonia like 30-20 years ago, but not a big radiation :)
I would liek to see the mushroom that comes, when the bomb explodes ;D

There's plenty of them on YouTube!!

[-:Undertaker:-]

North Korea wouldn't start WW3, China are their allies yes, but China have already distanced themselves from North Korea so if North Korea went into war with South Korea then America, Europe, China, Russia would all be against North Korea.

North Korea have Nuclear Warheads and Misslies BUT they dont have the technolgy to put the 2 together YET

[FlyingJesus]

North Korea have Nuclear Warheads and Misslies BUT they dont have the technolgy to put the 2 together YET

superglu m8

[Jamie!]

They have apparently said that if the UN impose anymore sanctions or whatever on them they will start a war.

[BL!NKEY]

North Korea just "tested" the nuke to show the world that they are powerful and should be looked at as a country.

They knew that America is busy in Iraq and doesnt have the soldiers to fight with them atm.

If we were not busy in Iraq he wouldnt have tested the bombs.

NK doesnt post that big of a thread to America because we are so far away. They would have to fly a plane over to us and bomb us if they wanted to. We would see it and blow the plane up with Americas technology.

We can at any moment push a button and fly a nuke from Kansas to NK in 20 minutes.

But we wont do that because of Iraq

We are hoping that we can get china to deal with NK because they want to be one of the world super powers. We kind of want to say hey you deal with your neighbor and you can get some credit.

[FlyingJesus]

Why "deal" with Korea at all?

[BL!NKEY]

Why "deal" with Korea at all?

Because it is what they want.

And they have nukes.

If we make them angry might start a war.

[FlyingJesus]

So don't push them? They've done a test, oh well, we do tests all the time. Why should Korea not be allowed to test nukes, just because they aren't in America's little circle of friends?

[mmhmm.]

So don't push them? They've done a test, oh well, we do tests all the time. Why should Korea not be allowed to test nukes, just because they aren't in America's little circle of friends?
Actually, I think a while ago the UN assigned 5 nations with the veto power. Along with that came the right to possess nuclear power. Those countries are Great Britain, United States, China, France, and Russia. So obviously, North Korea isnt one of them. It wasnt the USA's decision who holds the power, it was the UN.

So that's why North Korea apparently shouldn't be testing nukes, because it shouldnt even have them.

[Metric.]

dey can stick their bombs up their bum holes, and rotate on them.

[FlyingJesus]

They fought and won the Vietnam War for nuclear power, I think that entitles them to use it.

[mmhmm.]

They fought and won the Vietnam War for nuclear power, I think that entitles them to use it.
Well if you think that's the problem, then you have a problem with UN regulations, not the USA's "little circle of friends"

[BL!NKEY]

NK was making a point when they tested the nuke.

They want to have a one on one discussion with the US

we dont want to do that because it gives them leverage as a country and makes them look like a super power.

We dont want to recognize NK as a country.

[FlyingJesus]

The UN are the US's circle of friends.

Anyway, the UN shouldn't have control over which countries can have certain types of power, that's like saying we shouldn't give aid to 3rd world countries in case they become self sufficient.

[mmhmm.]

The UN are the US's circle of friends.

Anyway, the UN shouldn't have control over which countries can have certain types of power, that's like saying we shouldn't give aid to 3rd world countries in case they become self sufficient.
Um.. did you see what happened when Bush wanted support in Iraq? Nothing until much later. The UN didnt rush to support him. How is that friendly? England/Blair is more like a friend to Bush cuz they/he supported him from the start.

[BL!NKEY]

the UN shouldn't have control over which countries can have certain types of power, that's like saying we shouldn't give aid to 3rd world countries in case they become self sufficient.

I disagree.

I think it is good to have a group of the super powers who run the world. It is not healthy for the world to have part of a country with a crazy dictator testing nukes.

And the UN does give aid to 3rd world countries. The UN is supposed to be the world peace maker.

[mmhmm.]

I disagree.

I think it is good to have a group of the super powers who run the world. It is not healthy for the world to have part of a country with a crazy dictator testing nukes.

And the UN does give aid to 3rd world countries. The UN is supposed to be the world peace maker.
yeah i agree. The UN is designed to be a peace keepers. That includes supervising powers like that.

[FlyingJesus]

Fair enough about not wanting them to have nukes, I disagree with them stopping Korea from having any but can see why they want to. Nuclear power as a whole however should be available to any country with the technology to use it.

By the way I wasn't saying the UN don't give aid to the 3rd world, I was saying that stopping a country from developing nuclear power is the same as witholding aid from 3rd world countries, as it holds back progress.

[BL!NKEY]

By the way I wasn't saying the UN don't give aid to the 3rd world, I was saying that stopping a country from developing nuclear power is the same as witholding aid from 3rd world countries, as it holds back progress.

Stopping a country from developing nuclear power holds back negative progress. The more countries with nuclear power, the more dangerous the world is.

Witholding aid from 3rd world countries holds back positive progress. Support to poor countries helps them and makes the world better.

[mmhmm.]

Fair enough about not wanting them to have nukes, I disagree with them stopping Korea from having any but can see why they want to. Nuclear power as a whole however should be available to any country with the technology to use it.

By the way I wasn't saying the UN don't give aid to the 3rd world, I was saying that stopping a country from developing nuclear power is the same as witholding aid from 3rd world countries, as it holds back progress.
Nuclear power isnt anything like aid for third world countries. Nuclear power isnt anything like any other destructive force humans have control over. Nuclear power should not be something that any country who tries hard enough should have. There is just too much power with it. The world would become completely chaotic if you had to worry that your neighboring country may have nukes and may target you if you tick them off. Nuclear power is completely in a league of its own, and should be treat as such.

[VanHalen]

Nuclear Power should be given to those who won't abuse it.