View Full Version : Religion and Homosexuality.
JohnnyJoey
19-10-2006, 08:39 AM
Will you go to hell? I believe in god, but not the going to hell thingy.
The majority of Christians believe that homosexuality, in particular, homosexual sex, is sinful. At least, I think that is the case.
However, homosexuality and bisexuality is generally becoming more accepted nowadays.
:Hazel
19-10-2006, 09:05 AM
I'm not really very religious and I believe it's a free country so people should be able to do what they want. (within reason!)
Ostinato
19-10-2006, 10:36 AM
Here's the way I see it.
God makes us all in the way he wants yeh? He decides every little characteristic about us? Well - he's the one that chooses our sexuality then, so I don't see how the Church etc. can try and go against homosexuals etc.
They need to stop being so hypocritical. They teach us tht God loves everyone no matter what and makes us in image of him, yet they need try and turn homosexuals straight and tell them they'll go to hell?
I think God made you homosexual for a reason, so be proud of it and don't try and change it just because some people think they know what God wants.
Bielby2ooo
19-10-2006, 10:47 AM
Here's the way I see it.
God makes us all in the way he wants yeh? He decides every little characteristic about us? Well - he's the one that chooses our sexuality then, so I don't see how the Church etc. can try and go against homosexuals etc.
They need to stop being so hypocritical. They teach us tht God loves everyone no matter what and makes us in image of him, yet they need try and turn homosexuals straight and tell them they'll go to hell?
I think God made you homosexual for a reason, so be proud of it and don't try and change it just because some people think they know what God wants.
I agree with the person above
I am not religious in anyway
But if God was real
Why would he hate you because you like men? He made you that way
:Jamie
19-10-2006, 10:58 AM
Here's the way I see it.
God makes us all in the way he wants yeh? He decides every little characteristic about us? Well - he's the one that chooses our sexuality then, so I don't see how the Church etc. can try and go against homosexuals etc.
They need to stop being so hypocritical. They teach us tht God loves everyone no matter what and makes us in image of him, yet they need try and turn homosexuals straight and tell them they'll go to hell?
I think God made you homosexual for a reason, so be proud of it and don't try and change it just because some people think they know what God wants.
Sums it up there I agree with you Ostinato
clarissa !!
19-10-2006, 11:28 AM
Here's the way I see it.
God makes us all in the way he wants yeh? He decides every little characteristic about us? Well - he's the one that chooses our sexuality then, so I don't see how the Church etc. can try and go against homosexuals etc.
They need to stop being so hypocritical. They teach us tht God loves everyone no matter what and makes us in image of him, yet they need try and turn homosexuals straight and tell them they'll go to hell?
I think God made you homosexual for a reason, so be proud of it and don't try and change it just because some people think they know what God wants.
I totally argee with Ostin :]]
FlyingJesus
19-10-2006, 11:33 AM
The preference itself isn't a bad thing, it's the act of sodomy that's condemned.
Ostinato
19-10-2006, 11:57 AM
The preference itself isn't a bad thing, it's the act of sodomy that's condemned.
Well that's the way in which homosexuals chose to express their love to each other - similarly to hetrosexuals having sexual intercourse. It's the same principle but different standards.
Lindzi
19-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Here's the way I see it.
God makes us all in the way he wants yeh? He decides every little characteristic about us? Well - he's the one that chooses our sexuality then, so I don't see how the Church etc. can try and go against homosexuals etc.
They need to stop being so hypocritical. They teach us tht God loves everyone no matter what and makes us in image of him, yet they need try and turn homosexuals straight and tell them they'll go to hell?
I think God made you homosexual for a reason, so be proud of it and don't try and change it just because some people think they know what God wants.
Yeah I guess that makes sence but he also gave us free will so you could say he made some of us so we would always choose the right thing and all that but your sexuality is really about your free will, Cause dont some churches believe that if you're bi/gay you should kinda push past it and try to change it rather then being true to yourself? I know its really something you cant help but dont these like catholic churches think you should push past it? I'm pretty sure I phrased that wrong lol but meh
Ostinato
19-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Yeah I guess that makes sence but he also gave us free will so you could say he made some of us so we would always choose the right thing and all that but your sexuality is really about your free will, Cause dont some churches believe that if you're bi/gay you should kinda push past it and try to change it rather then being true to yourself? I know its really something you cant help but dont these like catholic churches think you should push past it? I'm pretty sure I phrased that wrong lol but meh
Lol no I understand. Exactly - the Catholic Church want you to try and pretend your something your not, and try and move on from your true feelings and act as though your straight.
Thats why their so hypocritical, as one minute their teaching you that God creates us all and loves us all no matter how we look or are, but 5 minutes later are telling us we need to change or we won't get into heaven.
(Lol btw, if your thinking I'm totally against Catholics or the Church or something - your wrong, as I'm actually a Catholic myself. :))
uh huh her
19-10-2006, 04:39 PM
I think somewhere in the bible it says something about 2 men having a sexual relationship is a sin. It really depends whether you beleive in what the bible tells you, as Al said, the catholic church want you to try and pretend your something your not. Theres nothing wrong with two people of the same sex having a sexual relationship, theres no rule saying that you HAVE to only have a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. Just do what you want.
Roboevil
19-10-2006, 06:59 PM
It depends on whether you're a Christian or not, or what your beliefs are. As far as I'm aware, God never condemns homosexuality (I think) so theoretically, if you believe in him and are gay, you shouldn't get send to hell. However, if you're a Christian, the old testament does condemn homosexuals, the act of it etc, and most Christians don't approve of homosexuals. Like other people have said, even though most Christians see homosexuality as being wrong, it's becoming more accepted. Don't quote me on some of those things though <3.
FlyingJesus
19-10-2006, 07:21 PM
Social acceptance has nothing to do with Christian law. Just because society nowadays (generally) sees homosexuality as ok, doesn't mean that the Christian law against it becomes irrelevant.
Ostinato
19-10-2006, 09:21 PM
It depends on whether you're a Christian or not, or what your beliefs are. As far as I'm aware, God never condemns homosexuality (I think) so theoretically, if you believe in him and are gay, you shouldn't get send to hell. However, if you're a Christian, the old testament does condemn homosexuals, the act of it etc, and most Christians don't approve of homosexuals. Like other people have said, even though most Christians see homosexuality as being wrong, it's becoming more accepted. Don't quote me on some of those things though <3.
In general Christian's are against homosexuals and homosexuality - well they are supposed to be if they strongly follow their beliefs. However, although I am personally a Christian, there's a lot I do disagree with - this being one of the issues. I think the church is completely biased about the whole thing, and have double standards on it all.
jerremy iz sad
19-10-2006, 09:32 PM
you have the choice what to belive in so if you belive that you go to heaven is all that really matters tbh.
its not like you can change your sexuality so you won't go to hell.
king_maxx
21-10-2006, 08:15 AM
Nope unfortunately if you're gay you will burn in hell forever say hi to Lucifer for me :) hahah twisted but commical to me at least :)
uh huh her
21-10-2006, 10:55 AM
Nope unfortunately if you're gay you will burn in hell forever say hi to Lucifer for me :) hahah twisted but commical to me at least :)
o well then thats something for me to look forward to.
Starburst..x
21-10-2006, 12:18 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, just be yourself, don't worry what may be thought of you, its your life, so live it how you want.
AlexxTurner
21-10-2006, 04:28 PM
Christians do not accept homosexual acts because they can not reproduce for example male & male - no child, woman & woman - no child BUT male & female - child. Big christians(those who believe in god and go to church every sunday or every chance they can) never wear condoms. So they can reproduce and so more there is more people in the world to spread the word of god or whatever. That's what I was told anyway
I'm catholic & gay, i'm going to burnnnnnnn. :'(
uh huh her
22-10-2006, 05:12 PM
I'm catholic & gay, i'm going to burnnnnnnn. :'(
yay i have someone who can burn in hell with me! [: [:
Nope unfortunately if you're gay you will burn in hell forever say hi to Lucifer for me :) hahah twisted but commical to me at least :)
Anyone who would come on here and preach that is probably ugly, to such an extent when you do get a girlfriend she's gonna look like a man anyway. (k)
JohnnyJoey
22-10-2006, 08:48 PM
Did i even say i was gay lol ;]
I am not religious, and I do not believe in heaven and hell. As far as I am concerned once you die you're dead - there's nothing more to it. (Although, I am somewhat beginning to believe in reincarnation, I guess that's just a nice thought more than anything).
I feel as long as you live your life to the full, you love the people that matter to you, and you act in a moral way according to your law, then you're a good person and that's all that matters.
People shouldn't have to be subject to scrutiny because of the way they are.
king_maxx
23-10-2006, 09:14 PM
Anyone who would come on here and preach that is probably ugly, to such an extent when you do get a girlfriend she's gonna look like a man anyway. (k)
ingenious. :eusa_clap
As for the rest of you...mocking God doesn't affect me.
GommeInc
23-10-2006, 11:47 PM
Here's the way I see it.
God makes us all in the way he wants yeh? He decides every little characteristic about us? Well - he's the one that chooses our sexuality then, so I don't see how the Church etc. can try and go against homosexuals etc.
They need to stop being so hypocritical. They teach us tht God loves everyone no matter what and makes us in image of him, yet they need try and turn homosexuals straight and tell them they'll go to hell?
I think God made you homosexual for a reason, so be proud of it and don't try and change it just because some people think they know what God wants.
What I find funny about that, is that God is both a man and a woman. He has no sex. Because he created us, and in the church they teach us to become every little bit like Jesus and God, they are telling us to become a man who likes women and a woman that likes men. Which makes it duo-sexual (I made that word up because I can't think what to call it, bisexual doesn't look right.
king_maxx
24-10-2006, 01:53 AM
What I find funny about that, is that God is both a man and a woman. He has no sex. Because he created us, and in the church they teach us to become every little bit like Jesus and God, they are telling us to become a man who likes women and a woman that likes men. Which makes it duo-sexual (I made that word up because I can't think what to call it, bisexual doesn't look right.
Jesus Christ is a male and God has the characteristics of the Father, so He's reffered to as male but God has no anatomy
Steven
24-10-2006, 04:36 AM
People are stupid to follow something a book says about sexuality this is the 21st Century I think it's time you put your bibles down and loosen up.
(P.s: I hate religion.)
Roboevil
24-10-2006, 06:08 PM
You're very narrow minded.
People are stupid to follow something a book says about sexuality this is the 21st Century I think it's time you put your bibles down and loosen up.
(P.s: I hate religion.)
English
24-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Well Homosexuals are frowned upon for 1 maybe 2 reasons depending on how you see it from the Bible. The first reason is pro-creation. Christians are for creation and so was God etc etc so therefore being gay you are going against the way of what God wanted and therefore going against God. The second reason is pretty much the same as it states about Homosexuality[Sodomy] being sinful in the Bible.
I think it is the Catholics who never wear condoms or use any contraception because they believe it is stopping creation and that is going against God and stopping creation.
liquid
24-10-2006, 06:22 PM
Well Homosexuals are frowned upon for 1 maybe 2 reasons depending on how you see it from the Bible. The first reason is pro-creation. Christians are for creation and so was God etc etc so therefore being gay you are going against the way of what God wanted and therefore going against God. The second reason is pretty much the same as it states about Homosexuality[Sodomy] being sinful in the Bible.
I think it is the Catholics who never wear condoms or use any contraception because they believe it is stopping creation and that is going against God and stopping creation.
Yeah they do.
One of my friends is from a catholic family and she has like 12 brothers and sisters lol.
English
24-10-2006, 06:26 PM
Yeah they do.
One of my friends is from a catholic family and she has like 12 brothers and sisters lol.
Yeah I knew it was! Hence catholics have pretty big families due to no contraception atall.
ColyTom
25-10-2006, 12:26 AM
Yeah they do.
One of my friends is from a catholic family and she has like 12 brothers and sisters lol.
Wow, lol :D
Eamonn
25-10-2006, 10:17 AM
I am from a Christian family, but I think not using contraception is a load of rubbish and the no sex before marriage cus when has that ever worked out :]
Nether$
28-10-2006, 11:08 AM
Isnt there somthing in the bible that says somthing like this:
Thou shout not lay down with man nor beast
then again the human race in the bible is referd to as man.
and also the bible -and other holy books- sometimes contradict themselvs.
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