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-Soph-
19-10-2006, 04:04 PM
Retailers who sell traditional Halloween merchandise, such as scary masks, are creating a "climate of fear", the Bishop of Bolton has said.
The Rt Rev David Gillett has written to supermarkets asking them to rethink the way they promote the pagan festival, celebrated on 31 October.

He said they are focussing on the darker side of Halloween.

Mr Gillett suggested shops stock hair braids, bright balloons and colourful costumes alongside traditional items.

"I share the view of many Christians that large retailers are increasingly keen to commercialise Halloween celebrations in a way that pressurises parents to purchase goods that promote the dark, negative side of Halloween and could encourage anti-social behaviour," he said.

"I am worried that Halloween has the potential to trivialise the realities of evil in the world and that occult practices should not be condoned, even if they are only being presented in a caricatured, light-hearted form."

He added: "Those in the Church supporting this move towards a more positive approach to the event are not being killjoys, but are simply reflecting the concerns of many parents and teachers across the land.

"We want supermarkets to take a responsible position in relation to the products they promote for celebrating the event."


I think this is stupid myself, And this guy is talking rubbish, I don't see how halloween things can cause fear?

Whats everyone elses opinions on this?

Blue
19-10-2006, 04:06 PM
i kno what you mean. Only 5 year olds would be scared by "traditional" halloween masks

-Soph-
19-10-2006, 04:07 PM
I find its mainly little kids that dress up..
I can't see how its doing anyone any harm, Its a little fun tradition, that happens once a year!

Can't people stop complaining eh?

uh huh her
19-10-2006, 04:07 PM
lmao what an idiot.
halloweens fun [:

-Soph-
19-10-2006, 04:08 PM
I know rofll.
Sweets :D

-:Undertaker:-
19-10-2006, 04:43 PM
At least the Church don't moan as much as the Muslims.

Charlie
19-10-2006, 05:03 PM
Halloween isn't really an English thing though, it more of an American thing as they accept it more then people over here do.

And it could cause fear for OAP's having kids coming to here door, knocking loads when they have no idea whats going on. It also causes peoples houses being egged & also, i think one or two OAP's were beat up last halloween

cocaine
19-10-2006, 05:55 PM
Halloween is just an excuse to cause trouble.

DCeption
19-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Pfft what a moaner, next he wont want xmas becuase of santa causing to much mess for coming down the chimney :rolleyes:

PaintYourTarget
19-10-2006, 06:12 PM
Halloween is just an excuse to cause trouble.
He's right there.

nvrhadsexb4
19-10-2006, 06:14 PM
halloween lol.

-Soph-
19-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Halloween isn't really an English thing though, it more of an American thing as they accept it more then people over here do.

And it could cause fear for OAP's having kids coming to here door, knocking loads when they have no idea whats going on. It also causes peoples houses being egged & also, i think one or two OAP's were beat up last halloween


Yeah but this guy is just asking people not to get masks/costumes, and to get braids and colourful things, So really hes not discouraging knocking on peoples doors which you put as the problem ^_^:p

Ezzie.
19-10-2006, 08:49 PM
How would you feel?

You're a 75 year old lady. Lost your husband or he's in a care home and you're sitting in your house when suddenly (at 10 oclock at night) somone bangs hard on the door, you open it and the person has a scream mask on demanding a trick or treat . if you don't give them sweets they'll most likely egg your house or cause other sorts of trouble whilst you're sitting in your house scared to death they'll come inside...

so yes he's a complete and utter idiot *rolls*

DCeption
19-10-2006, 09:01 PM
How would you feel?

You're a 75 year old lady. Lost your husband or he's in a care home and you're sitting in your house when suddenly (at 10 oclock at night) somone bangs hard on the door, you open it and the person has a scream mask on demanding a trick or treat . if you don't give them sweets they'll most likely egg your house or cause other sorts of trouble whilst you're sitting in your house scared to death they'll come inside...

so yes he's a complete and utter idiot *rolls*

Yes, becasue most 6 year old kids egg your house *rolls*

Ezzie.
19-10-2006, 09:08 PM
Where did I mention about 6 year olds? Or are you imagining me typing it? if so see doctor.
I've known people upto 13 to be doing trick or treating just going out to scare people and egg houses and basically annoy the hell out of people

DCeption
19-10-2006, 09:11 PM
Where did I mention about 6 year olds? Or are you imagining me typing it? if so see doctor.
I've known people upto 13 to be doing trick or treating just going out to scare people and egg houses and basically annoy the hell out of people

Well the majority of people losers and go out to have a bit of fun.And im sure people did it when they were younger so they cant complain

Ezzie.
19-10-2006, 09:13 PM
You obviously haven't been out on hallowean with police cars driving round the streets? (i live in a town btw not city)

DCeption
19-10-2006, 09:15 PM
Nope, i live in a quiet area :P

:Hazel
19-10-2006, 09:16 PM
The elderly especially do dread this time of year which is understandable. Many like my Nan live on their own and dread the thought of strangers knocking on their doors when it is dark so I under stand what Bishop is saying.

However kids are entitled to enjoy this time of year, so where do you draw the line? One way or another you will end up upsetting someone anyway...

-Soph-
19-10-2006, 09:43 PM
Nothing like that really happens in my area..
Its all a bit of harmless fun

-:Undertaker:-
19-10-2006, 09:52 PM
Its the night before Halloween that has the bad reputation (Mischeif Night) that's when the Idiots come out and Scare OAPS, Break in their houses, Hit them, Rob them and Destroy their Furniture.

Bonfire night is also a Bad night aswell when Fireworks are put though OAPS letterboxes, OAPS are raped, OAPS are scared with the Bangs and people cant get to sleep with the constant banging, Fires are started everywere ion Trees and in alleys, Parks and the Fire brigade are called to put them out sometimes the calls are fake aswell.

RedStratocas
19-10-2006, 11:39 PM
Halloween is a single day out of the year where kids (and myself) can fufill their never-ending quest for candy. Thats it. Sorry Bishop, there is no deeper meaning, Halloween isnt the root of all evil in the world. It's the root of all cavities.

Mentor
19-10-2006, 11:51 PM
Halloween is a single day out of the year where kids (and myself) can fufill their never-ending quest for candy. Thats it. Sorry Bishop, there is no deeper meaning, Halloween isnt the root of all evil in the world. It's the root of all cavities.

Its becuse its a pagan festival, so the church hate it... I mean, thats like saying Christmas is a pagan festival, and they would actualy do such a thing as rewrite the bible to put jesus's birth at that date, insted of a month of so later when it origanly happened.. Or that the exsact same thing was done with other celibrations such as easter...

RedStratocas
20-10-2006, 12:01 AM
Its becuse its a pagan festival, so the church hate it... I mean, thats like saying Christmas is a pagan festival, and they would actualy do such a thing as rewrite the bible to put jesus's birth at that date, insted of a month of so later when it origanly happened.. Or that the exsact same thing was done with other celibrations such as easter...

Its lost all meaning though. No one actually celebrates it as a pagan festival anymore. Its about candy now. Delicious, delicious candy. Like in our American indipendence day on July 4th. It isnt much about America anymore, its about fireworks and an excuse for a BBQ. There are dozens of other american holidays, but nothing has anything explosive tied into it, so people dont care much for it.

Ezzie.
20-10-2006, 05:19 AM
We're born into a society that's starting to not give a toss :p

-Soph-
20-10-2006, 05:57 AM
Halloween is a single day out of the year where kids (and myself) can fufill their never-ending quest for candy. Thats it. Sorry Bishop, there is no deeper meaning, Halloween isnt the root of all evil in the world. It's the root of all cavities.

Exactly, Well put.

No one celebrates its true meaning now, And really.. I don't think not selling "scary masks" is going to stop someone from breaking into a OAP's house to be honest.

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