THIS IS JUST SO OFF-TOPIC.

[nets]

Judging by a few edits I saw prior to creating this thread, I knew the title would get your much-desired moderator attention.

I find it's pretty pathetic people get warned for "off-topic" posting, when actually they have just replied to a post which was on-topic. However, they were warned as their post didn't fit in with the thread's initial subject. The point of a forum is to discuss, conversations can curve and different discussions can arise within the one said subject. By warning anyone who changes the subject slightly, or posts their disapproval of a point someone made within an on-topic post is pretty pathetic and constricts any form of mature conversation.

An example of this: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=253818
Eight warnings were issued by the moderator YMO as the conversation curved, curving as a result of users rightfully arguing someone was wrong by correcting another user's spelling (the user happens to be dyslexic). Seriously, keep up the great work YMO.

I honestly think moderators need to think about whether users' posts are pointless to the thread as a whole, more-so than if they're going to be ranked #1 on next week's moderator-log leader board. Anyway, thanks for reading. (k)

[Geek]

I agree. I was banned for this on DuHast and I was having a discussion +rep Joshua.

[brandon]

3/4 of my infractions are for just that. I see what you mean.

[nets]

I agree. I was banned for this on DuHast and I was having a discussion +rep Joshua.


3/4 of my infractions are for just that. I see what you mean.

Thanks for your support, I feel it's IMPERATIVE we deal with this now.. as I'm actually losing sleep over it. True story (a).

[brandon]

Thanks for your support, I feel it's IMPERATIVE we deal with this now.. as I'm actually losing sleep over it. True story (a).
For example, someone posted an alteration. I commented about alterations yet got an infraction because I did not rate his particular alt?

[:Jamie]

I have to agree..

[Catzsy]

Judging by a few edits I saw prior to creating this thread, I knew the title would get your much-desired moderator attention.

I find it's pretty pathetic people get warned for "off-topic" posting, when actually they have just replied to a post which was on-topic. However, they were warned as their post didn't fit in with the thread's initial subject. The point of a forum is to discuss, conversations can curve and different discussions can arise within the one said subject. By warning anyone who changes the subject slightly, or posts their disapproval of a point someone made within an on-topic post is pretty pathetic and constricts any form of mature conversation.

An example of this: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=253818
Eight warnings were issued by the moderator YMO as the conversation curved, curving as a result of users rightfully arguing someone was wrong by correcting another user's spelling (the user happens to be dyslexic). Seriously, keep up the great work YMO.

I honestly think moderators need to think about whether users' posts are pointless to the thread as a whole, more-so than if they're going to be ranked #1 on next week's moderator-log leader board. Anyway, thanks for reading. (k)


Well i have checked the thread that you use as an example and 90% of the posters were on topic and those that were way off topic of the THREAD TOPIC i.e making personal remarks or being rude were infractioned.
If the remark does not make a contribution to the original thread topic then its off-topic. Thats my opinion anyway :D

[Ostinato]

Off topic = Making no contribution or adding any rellevant information to the topic being discussed.

[nets]

For example, someone posted an alteration. I commented about alterations yet got an infraction because I did not rate his particular alt?
That's just poor moderation, I'm sure you can appeal against it. I haven't seen it stated anywhere that it's mandatory you leave a rating. If they deny you your appeal, give your keyboard a thrashing and make a rant thread..


I have to agree..
Therefore I have to love you, and I shall demonstrate my love for you via the medium of emoticons:
:love7: :love3:

Off topic = Making no contribution or adding any rellevant information to the topic being discussed.
I was challenging the rule in general, rather than moderators' understanding of the rule's defintion.

[Catzsy]

For example, someone posted an alteration. I commented about alterations yet got an infraction because I did not rate his particular alt?
[QUOTE=joshua;2473721]That's just poor moderation, I'm sure you can appeal against it. I haven't seen it stated anywhere that it's mandatory you leave a rating. If they deny you your appeal, give your keyboard a thrashing and make a rant thread..


To be honest if Brandon had commented on the actual alteration but simply not given a rating then I cannot see how an infraction would have been given. They do it very happily on the cool rooms forum everyday without being infractionated. :D

[sam iz da buz]

If I wanted to be told off for every move I made, i'd be at school

Yet we're in our free time,we're here to have fun, not get told off about everything

It's ridiculous

[Dan2nd]

Off topic = Making no contribution or adding any rellevant information to the topic being discussed.

When I got an infraction for being offtopic I was contributing (sp?) by joking about somewhere I made out .. and as the thread was about the weirdest place you made out it was on topic as thats what I was joking about .. I reported it in the report your infraction thread and wasn't happy with the reply then pmed one of the management and never got a reply ... rude

[Tristan]

Their posts had no relevance to the subject, this is also knwon as: off topic posting.
Off topic posting is not allowed and therefore, deserve an infraction for breaking the rules.

Unfortunately, I do not see a problem here?

[nets]

Their posts had no relevance to the subject, this is also knwon as: off topic posting.
Off topic posting is not allowed and therefore, deserve an infraction for breaking the rules.

Unfortunately, I do not see a problem here?
Unfortunately, I can see a few problems here; the original problem I posted about, you failing to read both my original post correctly as well as the post when I stated I was challenging the rule not the definition and this:


josh says:
Hi Alan
alan says:
yo
josh says:
Was Ymo the moderator which moved loads of posts? And stuck stuff? When he found out he was fired?
alan says:
yea
josh says:
Haha, they rehired him.
alan says:
pmsl!
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=180770
Check his moderator logs around that time.

[Tristan]

I am sure they have noticed this but that was months ago and I assure you, I am no longer immature as I was then. They picked out "The best" applications and mine was one of them. Unfortunately, I do not believe you are in a position to criticise their judgement.
Also, I advise you to remove the chat log as it against the rules.
Discussions are to be held within the topic. If the people posting off topic wish to discuss something else, they may create their own thread.
However, the posters went on to be rude to each other and post about a certain forum member's condition.

They broke the rules, and you should know that when people break the rules, they are to be infractioned or warned.

I also suggest that if you wish to complain about what I have done before, or just to have a dig at me, please take it elsewhere to management.

[micky.blue.eyes]

For example, someone posted an alteration. I commented about alterations yet got an infraction because I did not rate his particular alt?

Lol, will you ever stop talking about that? You were commenting on the comments of people in the threads of the thread starter, you didn't say anything about the alt.

I haven't seen any unfair off-topic infractions to be honest, I check the thread with Ymo's warnings and I think they were all fair. The topic wasn't the spelling of some word, it was back to school.
So I don't see the problem in that thread, sorry.

And to quote from the rules:
C18. Do not make off topic posts - It is not allow to make off topic posts in a thread. If you need to discuss something that the thread is not about, make a new thread instead.

[darkchicken101]

I agree with the OP. I got an "off-topic" infraction because I said a word which was filtered, and it was the only word in my post.

It was LMAO with an F in the middle. Damn trialists.

[English]

3/4 of my infractions are for just that. I see what you mean.


Judging by a few edits I saw prior to creating this thread, I knew the title would get your much-desired moderator attention.

I find it's pretty pathetic people get warned for "off-topic" posting, when actually they have just replied to a post which was on-topic. However, they were warned as their post didn't fit in with the thread's initial subject. The point of a forum is to discuss, conversations can curve and different discussions can arise within the one said subject. By warning anyone who changes the subject slightly, or posts their disapproval of a point someone made within an on-topic post is pretty pathetic and constricts any form of mature conversation.

An example of this: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=253818
Eight warnings were issued by the moderator YMO as the conversation curved, curving as a result of users rightfully arguing someone was wrong by correcting another user's spelling (the user happens to be dyslexic). Seriously, keep up the great work YMO.

I honestly think moderators need to think about whether users' posts are pointless to the thread as a whole, more-so than if they're going to be ranked #1 on next week's moderator-log leader board. Anyway, thanks for reading. (k)

Yeah I agree Josh. If you reply to someone's post in the thread then your not going off topic from the thread "/ If however you make a random post say for example there is a thread about penguins and you say "My pencil is green" then that is off-topic "/ Not if someone makes a comment to it and you comment on that.
I got 2 infractions yesterday for sticking up for my mate who was being told his spellings wrong when he's dyslexic, how mucked up is that? Then we complain to the MODs and they give us this bullcrap saying "I'm only doing my job", well the MODs have their own voice they should say 'Well he's ethically in the right so I'm not going to bother infractioning him', IDIOTS "/

[brandon]

Lol, will you ever stop talking about that? You were commenting on the comments of people in the threads of the thread starter, you didn't say anything about the alt.

I haven't seen any unfair off-topic infractions to be honest, I check the thread with Ymo's warnings and I think they were all fair. The topic wasn't the spelling of some word, it was back to school.
So I don't see the problem in that thread, sorry.

And to quote from the rules:
C18. Do not make off topic posts - It is not allow to make off topic posts in a thread. If you need to discuss something that the thread is not about, make a new thread instead.
Ok then so I should make a new thread talking about what they are doing
in a certain thread?

[nets]

I am sure they have noticed this but that was months ago and I assure you, I am no longer immature as I was then. They picked out "The best" applications and mine was one of them. Unfortunately, I do not believe you are in a position to criticise their judgement.
Also, I advise you to remove the chat log as it against the rules.
Discussions are to be held within the topic. If the people posting off topic wish to discuss something else, they may create their own thread.
However, the posters went on to be rude to each other and post about a certain forum member's condition.

They broke the rules, and you should know that when people break the rules, they are to be infractioned or warned.
That quote isn't against any rules, I suggest you learn the rules if you're planning on passing the trial; actually, don't worry! I'm sure you'll get past with your great reputation of a trustworthy person!

Anyhow, again you've just came back and said "they were breaking a rule", I'm not disputing that they didn't break a rule; I'm saying moderators shouldn't attack users with infractions who dare to slightly post "off-topic". Seriously, at the rate you're going everyone will have lost their first Habbox account and will be using one without any posts/rep ETC. which they don't care about. How do you seriously expect to punish people if all you can do is ban their accounts they don't care about? You are digging Habbox's grave, as well as ruining Habbox users' experience on the forum at the same time.

[Nixt]

I think the fact he gave full infractions is a little harsh. When people post off topic when I moderate - I edit the post and usually PM the user manually, if they continue, I simply issue a warning and after that infractions.

However, I have to disagree with the fact you say they aren't off topic, as they clearly are... :)

[Tristan]

That quote isn't against any rules

If you can get this Alan person to tell us that he gives you permission to post that chatlog it is not against the rules. However if he does not, it is against the rules as, as far as we know, he has not given his consent.

[brandon]

If you can get this Alan person to tell us that he gives you permission to post that chatlog it is not against the rules. However if he does not, it is against the rules as, as far as we know, he has not given his consent.
Alan = Baving

So does this mean I can't post a conversation I had on MSN with George Bush?

[micky.blue.eyes]

I think the fact he gave full infractions is a little harsh. When people post off topic when I moderate - I edit the post and usually PM the user manually, if they continue, I simply issue a warning and after that infractions.

However, I have to disagree with the fact you say they aren't off topic, as they clearly are... :)

If all mods would do that, people will get away with this way too much, hence why some infractions have a warning option for the first time they break that rule.


I agree with the OP. I got an "off-topic" infraction because I said a word which was filtered, and it was the only word in my post.

It was LMAO with an F in the middle. Damn trialists.
Saying that isn't allowed, but you shouldn't have had an infraction for posting off-topic but for avoiding the filter/ inappropriate language.


That quote isn't against any rules, I suggest you learn the rules if you're planning on passing the trial; actually, don't worry! I'm sure you'll get past with your great reputation of a trustworthy person!

Anyhow, again you've just came back and said "they were breaking a rule", I'm not disputing that they didn't break a rule; I'm saying moderators shouldn't attack users with infractions who dare to slightly post "off-topic". Seriously, at the rate you're going everyone will have lost their first Habbox account and will be using one without any posts/rep ETC. which they don't care about. How do you seriously expect to punish people if all you can do is ban their accounts they don't care about? You are digging Habbox's grave, as well as ruining Habbox users' experience on the forum at the same time.
Mods can't ban people if that's waht you were saying.



I also suggest that if you wish to complain about what I have done before, or just to have a dig at me, please take it elsewhere to management.
It's not against the rules if both parties agree with it being posted.

I think most people are over-reacting, it's not that hard to stay on-topic. Most people avoid getting an infraction by posting things like:
Off topic: Bla bla bla
On topic: Bla bla bla
Or something like
Bla bla off-topic bla bla
But to stay on-topic, bla bla

[Baving]

If you can get this Alan person to tell us that he gives you permission to post that chatlog it is not against the rules. However if he does not, it is against the rules as, as far as we know, he has not given his consent.

I do give me consent. Btw I think I know what breaks the rules etc.. I have been there done that.

[Nixt]

If all mods would do that, people will get away with this way too much, hence why some infractions have a warning option for the first time they break that rule.


Actually I think it's better that way. I only do it for minor offences though :).

[Tristan]

It's not against the rules if both parties agree with it being posted.

I have stated this. :P


Btw I think I know what breaks the rules etc.. I have been there done that.

I do not believe that I have questioned that?

I suggest that, if you wish to take this further, you PM senior management to deal with the issue that you have raised.

[micky.blue.eyes]

I have stated this. :P

Lol yea, I was still busy with my post when you posted that. :P



But I don't think problems between mods and other members will ever be solved, so there will be many more of these threads without any solutions. :(

[nets]

I would say blatant off-topic posting does qualify for an infraction, however someone just replying to something mentioned within the thread but is irrelevant to the thread's subject doesn't. I'm sure everyone of you have done it at least 20 times, luckily for you moderators' weren't always this strict and you're not permanently banned. Fine, ask them nicely not to, but giving an infraction for it is just harsh.


Mods can't ban people if that's waht you were saying.
I'm fully aware who can ban people who and who cannot, seeing as I once could ban people myself. I was suggesting that after a while the infractions will accumulate, and therefore the user will be banned. I didn't think that needed any explanation, but it obviously did.

[edible]

I kinda agree abit :S.. I once got warned for saying something which was quite on topic imo, but yet I was told.. Dont post off-topic.

[ProAlts]

Seriously, at the rate you're going everyone will have lost their first Habbox account and will be using one without any posts/rep ETC. which they don't care about. How do you seriously expect to punish people if all you can do is ban their accounts they don't care about? You are digging Habbox's grave, as well as ruining Habbox users' experience on the forum at the same time.

i agree with that, i got perm'd for having like 15 infractions and since then i have had like 10 diff accounts and i dont care if im banned no more cos ill just make another account

prob going to get an infraction for this cos its not directly related to the first post

oh yeh and look: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2469970#post2469970
someone asked me what browser i used and i replied and got warned

[-Justin]

Edited It was on topic >.<

Anywase infractions suck and no one likes them. Mods over use them and get power hungry. When a user is a mod he has followers that rep him to get "imunity" from being infractioned, Hence why most mods have high reps. >.<

HabboxForum is no longer fun.[/B]

[English]

I hope you know what you guys have done. This forum has turned from a great forum with loads of members who all talked together, even if it was arguing it was still getting posts and people talking.

At the end of the day at Joshua said by banning people's main accounts people are making new accounts which just get banned for stupid infractions and encouraging people NOT to buy VIP as it will just get banned and be a waste of money, thus sierk won't have enough money to pay for the forum and bye bye habboxforum. And yeah sierk if you're reading this you might want to take this into consideration!

[-Justin]

Great point Plus Rep

[sierk]

I thought we only give warnings for posting off-topic, not infractions?


3/4 of my infractions are for just that. I see what you mean.

[-Justin]

o.O Corruption. Somone is busted. xD

[Geek]

I thought we only give warnings for posting off-topic, not infractions?

Well on another account which I had I was given three infractions for posting something which was clearly to do with Computer Talk yet was infractions. The moderation in the Computers & Web Design section is attrocious as none of them know which section is right and wrong for certain issues.

I don't dispute that many of the moderators are good, and there are of course the bad ones who give infractions for awful reasons which are clearly not disturbed (I won't say any names but we all know who)

While the old moderation was much better when people like Joshua was super moderator and A4AOwen was a moderator of the Web Design section, but now it's all just infractions with no meaningful point.

For the moderator who would bring up usernotes, perhaps we did get usernotes but i'm absolutely sure not to this extent.

[Catzsy]

Edited It was on topic >.<

Anywase infractions suck and no one likes them. Mods over use them and get power hungry. When a user is a mod he has followers that rep him to get "imunity" from being infractioned, Hence why most mods have high reps. >.<

HabboxForum is no longer fun.[/B]


Have you any evidence that any Mods give people immunity after being given reputation. Some people also buy reputation? That is quite strong accusation to make if you cannot back it up with some solid evidence. Otherwise it is a mere assumption or belief that really doesn't count for anything.

Also anybody can appeal against their infraction. If Joshua is saying that posting off-topic should not be against the rules that is an entirely different thing :D


I thought we only give warnings for posting off-topic, not infractions?

The infraction form gives the mod the option of either. Warnings first then if it continues an infraction. :)

[-Justin]

Then train the new trialists to use the infraction systen the right way! -.-" Off
Topic post = Warning. Never showed as a warning on my other account. :l

[Italic]

Infractions are a good way to remind people to not break the rules, but if you'd rather straight cautions/bans, I can always PM Seacat.

[Catzsy]

Then train the new trialists to use the infraction systen the right way! -.-" Off
Topic post = Warning. Never showed as a warning on my other account. :l
If the mods/supermods are making mistakes the Forum Management deal with it.
If you could tell me what your other account is I will personally check them to make sure they are fair, which is the right of every member of the forum who receives either a warning or an infraction. I notice you don't make mention of my queries to your other comments. You do make sweeping statements such as the one above none of which you seem to be able to back up with specific examples.

[micky.blue.eyes]

Edited It was on topic >.<

Anywase infractions suck and no one likes them. Mods over use them and get power hungry. When a user is a mod he has followers that rep him to get "imunity" from being infractioned, Hence why most mods have high reps. >.<

HabboxForum is no longer fun.[/B]
I've never ever got rep for being a mod and I don't treat my friends better when they break a rule. Mods who do that are unprofessional and shouldn't be moderating.

Most mods have much rep because the people who get a trial have been on the forum for a long while, they are chosen because they know much about the forum.


I hope you know what you guys have done. This forum has turned from a great forum with loads of members who all talked together, even if it was arguing it was still getting posts and people talking.

At the end of the day at Joshua said by banning people's main accounts people are making new accounts which just get banned for stupid infractions and encouraging people NOT to buy VIP as it will just get banned and be a waste of money, thus sierk won't have enough money to pay for the forum and bye bye habboxforum. And yeah sierk if you're reading this you might want to take this into consideration!
I got to dissagree with you on this one. There are still lots of people who still have their first account (much more than people with their first account banned), they all behave well, except for a few infractions and warnings, but they haven't been banned yet, perhaps cautioned, some might even had a temporary ban. The people who do get banned come back and just continue with breaking the rules like they used to do, they get banned again and again and again.



Then train the new trialists to use the infraction systen the right way! -.-" Off
Topic post = Warning. Never showed as a warning on my other account. :l

We are told to give people a warning first for some rules (like posting off topic, posting in the wrong forum and others), if they break this rule again they get an infraction.



People with 8 or more infractions for posting off-topic deserve a temporary ban, they've been warned so many times and they still don't listen, maybe they will after a temporary ban.

[paul♥]

Judging by a few edits I saw prior to creating this thread, I knew the title would get your much-desired moderator attention.

I find it's pretty pathetic people get warned for "off-topic" posting, when actually they have just replied to a post which was on-topic. However, they were warned as their post didn't fit in with the thread's initial subject. The point of a forum is to discuss, conversations can curve and different discussions can arise within the one said subject. By warning anyone who changes the subject slightly, or posts their disapproval of a point someone made within an on-topic post is pretty pathetic and constricts any form of mature conversation.

An example of this: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=253818
Eight warnings were issued by the moderator YMO as the conversation curved, curving as a result of users rightfully arguing someone was wrong by correcting another user's spelling (the user happens to be dyslexic). Seriously, keep up the great work YMO.

I honestly think moderators need to think about whether users' posts are pointless to the thread as a whole, more-so than if they're going to be ranked #1 on next week's moderator-log leader board. Anyway, thanks for reading. (k)

Totaly agree.


Off topic = Making no contribution or adding any rellevant information to the topic being discussed.

Aint you clever.


I am sure they have noticed this but that was months ago and I assure you, I am no longer immature as I was then. They picked out "The best" applications and mine was one of them. Unfortunately, I do not believe you are in a position to criticise their judgement.
Also, I advise you to remove the chat log as it against the rules.
Discussions are to be held within the topic. If the people posting off topic wish to discuss something else, they may create their own thread.
However, the posters went on to be rude to each other and post about a certain forum member's condition.

They broke the rules, and you should know that when people break the rules, they are to be infractioned or warned.

I also suggest that if you wish to complain about what I have done before, or just to have a dig at me, please take it elsewhere to management.

But yet some people are still perm banned and have been told there account will never be unbanned because they did it?

My account (Barkseh) got removed from habbox when i moved posts to announcements..

[Dan2nd]

ok then well how come I got an infraction ( I assume its an infraction as it didn't say it was a warning in the message) from EternalMasque for posting off topic when she/he what ever the person is certainly isn't a trialest

[Nixt]

ok then well how come I got an infraction ( I assume its an infraction as it didn't say it was a warning in the message) from EternalMasque for posting off topic when she/he what ever the person is certainly isn't a trialest


Your infraction wasn't for posting off topic :)

[Dan2nd]

Your infraction wasn't for posting off topic :)

oh yeh Lol EternalMasque 1 - 0 me

[Herman]

I got an infraction aswell for posting offtopic, when I don't even think it is. I totally agree with the thread starter.

[Catzsy]

I got an infraction aswell for posting offtopic, when I don't even think it is. I totally agree with the thread starter.

No you have a warning and it was most definitely off-topic Thx:)

[Tristan]

My account (Barkseh) got removed from habbox when i moved posts to announcements..

Well that is most definately unacceptable...

[English]

I thought we only give warnings for posting off-topic, not infractions?
http://www.habboxforum.com/hw/misc/yellowcard_small.gifBack to school. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2471064#post2471064) 29-10-2006 08:19 PM27-04-2007 08:19 PM 0Posting off topicYmo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12738)http://www.habboxforum.com/hw/misc/redcard_small.gifBack to school. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2470990#post2470990) 29-10-2006 08:14 PM27-04-2007 08:14 PM 1Posting off topicYmo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12738)
Clearly not.


The infraction form gives the mod the option of either. Warnings first then if it continues an infraction. :)
Your telling the forum owner how you run his forum, shouldn't it be the other way around?

[paul♥]

http://www.habboxforum.com/hw/misc/yellowcard_small.gifBack to school. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2471064#post2471064) 29-10-2006 08:19 PM27-04-2007 08:19 PM 0Posting off topicYmo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12738)http://www.habboxforum.com/hw/misc/redcard_small.gifBack to school. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2470990#post2470990) 29-10-2006 08:14 PM27-04-2007 08:14 PM 1Posting off topicYmo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12738)
Clearly not.


Your telling the forum owner how you run his forum, shouldn't it be the other way around?

Sierk hires people to run the forum..

[g]

It is anoying i have to admit.

[nets]

Infractions are a good way to remind people to not break the rules, but if you'd rather straight cautions/bans, I can always PM Seacat.
No-one is suggesting that, read the thread. Also, I'm pretty sure Seacat wouldn't even contemplate your suggestion.


Well that is most definately unacceptable...
That wasn't relevant to the thread's initial subject, but a post within the thread. Going by your standards, I suggest you give yourself an infraction.

[English]

Infractions are a good way to remind people to not break the rules, but if you'd rather straight cautions/bans, I can always PM Seacat.
How is that even relevant to the topic? And you call yourself a 'Forum MOD' :rolleyes:

[Catzsy]

http://www.habboxforum.com/hw/misc/yellowcard_small.gifBack to school. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2471064#post2471064) 29-10-2006 08:19 PM27-04-2007 08:19 PM 0Posting off topicYmo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12738)http://www.habboxforum.com/hw/misc/redcard_small.gifBack to school. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=2470990#post2470990) 29-10-2006 08:14 PM27-04-2007 08:14 PM 1Posting off topicYmo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12738)
Clearly not.


Your telling the forum owner how you run his forum, shouldn't it be the other way around?


NO to be fair I'm not at all. Just saying what the form says and what we have been told and he did ask the question. I think that was quite rude of you to be honest :(