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R4ller
01-04-2005, 07:36 PM
The Pope is Officialy DYING / DEAD

Reports come shooting in that he is dying / dea

and if still alive only moments to live...

UPDATE: POPE'S VREATHING HAS BECOME VERY SHALLOW

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Pope John Paul II's condition has "worsened" the Vatican said in the latest statement on his health.


The statement said the pope's blood pressure, which was unstable, had worsened, his breathing had become shallow and his kidney function was deteriorating.

The Vatican added that his condition had been "notably compromised".

Sky Italia TV has reported that the pope has lost consciousness but this has not been confirmed.

Earlier Joaquin Navarro-Valls said he had been "informed of the gravity of his situation" and had decided to stay in his flat overlooking St. Peter's Square.

The pope is still lucid, fully conscious and extraordinarily serene," he told reporters.

The Vatican also announced the appointment of 17 new bishops and archbishops as well as four Vatican envoys as the pope's condition worsened.

The Vatican dismissed as "rubbish" a report by an Italian news agency that the 84-year-old was in a coma.

"This is absolute rubbish. We are not going to lower ourselves to playing these games," an official said.

T.Kelly
01-04-2005, 07:55 PM
On the news it just said the pope had died, then 2 minutes later it said his condition was getting worse, so I don't know whats happened to him now...

GommeInc
01-04-2005, 07:57 PM
It is worrying, I hope he had a great life and enjoy every minute

sally37
01-04-2005, 08:01 PM
ive only heard that he had a heart attack in the night and he hasn't got long to live

xJoeYx
01-04-2005, 08:01 PM
hes pretty brave and got good faith to keep his role as the pope going, whos the next pope gonna be? ohhhh please pick me!!!!!!

*.Glitter.Rip.*
01-04-2005, 08:03 PM
lol

I like the pope I thorght he was cool. I Hope he does live. :)

Mentor
01-04-2005, 08:06 PM
about 3 people die every second. Its nothing speacal :/

Seacat
01-04-2005, 08:08 PM
about 3 people die every second. Its nothing speacal :/

Obviously its special, otherwise there wouldn't be a thread on it. I don't see 100'000 threads here for everyone in the world that has died, so obviously it is special :rolleyes:

*.Glitter.Rip.*
01-04-2005, 08:11 PM
about 3 people die every second. Its nothing speacal :/
Its the Pope Mentor! He has been loyal to everyone in the world and has been kind. How can you say nothing special?!? :'( Imagion a person suffering with terminal cancer and saying that their death is nothing special! :(

Mentor
01-04-2005, 08:16 PM
Its the Pope Mentor! He has been loyal to everyone in the world and has been kind. How can you say nothing special?!? :'( Imagion a person suffering with terminal cancer and saying that their death is nothing special! :(
Popes a person just like evryone else, i dont realy think his death si anymore speacal than anyone elses. Lifes a fatal desiese, everyoens going to die, so i dont realy see much use in waisting your own life moring other peoples loss of it.

*.Glitter.Rip.*
01-04-2005, 08:19 PM
Popes a person just like evryone else, i dont realy think his death si anymore speacal than anyone elses. Lifes a fatal desiese, everyoens going to die, so i dont realy see much use in waisting your own life moring other peoples loss of it.
The Pope is a big issue to catholics. Hes A nice guy. Your really negitive maybe you should start caring more about the value of life and others than saying death is nothing special. Very morbid. By any chance are you a goth?

Mentor
01-04-2005, 08:22 PM
The Pope is a big issue to catholics. Hes A nice guy. Your really negitive maybe you should start caring more about the value of life and others than saying death is nothing special. Very morbid. By any chance are you a goth?
nope. im just a realist. Plenty of people are nice, but what goods beeing respeced when your dead.
Id hate to have people morn my death, it would be a pointless wasit of time.
When someones dead there dead, and people wasiting there lives moring doesnt help them or anybody else.

ps. Goth?, not to my knowlage

*.Glitter.Rip.*
01-04-2005, 08:25 PM
nope. im just a realist. Plenty of people are nice, but what goods beeing respeced when your dead.
Id hate to have people morn my death, it would be a pointless wasit of time.
When someones dead there dead, and people wasiting there lives moring doesnt help them or anybody else.

ps. Goth?, not to my knowlage
OK well I like to pay respects to show I cared for that person than not bother to turn up. A realist huh? xD I guess im not sure about myself.

Mentor
01-04-2005, 08:27 PM
OK well I like to pay respects to show I cared for that person than not bother to turn up. A realist huh? xD I guess im not sure about myself.
probaly perseption of death, i dont belive in life after death in any sence, which is why this means nothing to me, and just seems pointless, if you do belive in life after death, then you would have reason to belive that it is important to pay respects etc

reachydude
01-04-2005, 08:38 PM
I think Mentor is right, the one who is gonna die or died is just a normal person and hes dying for natural reasons... but he is still a big character at a religion where the death is a complicated deal...

Pulchritudinous
01-04-2005, 09:09 PM
I think he was cool, I remember when all those people breakdanced for him, it was really funny, I don't know much about him, and I'm not relgious either, but I'm sure he was a nice person, but everyone goes some time or another, so I just hope he had a nice life, and enjoys the rest of it, well, he probably won't enjoy what he's got left, because of his condition, but I hope he lived a happy life.

Luayminator
01-04-2005, 10:13 PM
The pope was/Is sweeeeeet. You dig dat?. He was/Is DA BOMB to da Cath-O-Leecs/

G-flow
01-04-2005, 10:32 PM
I wonder whats going to happen :o

la-ur-en
01-04-2005, 11:08 PM
lol

I like the pope I thorght he was cool. I Hope he does live. :)

He's not going to live, its an uncurable disease.
But he was such a great influence, he stuck by his beliefs.

RedStratocas
02-04-2005, 01:29 AM
Its the Pope Mentor! He has been loyal to everyone in the world and has been kind. How can you say nothing special?!? :'( Imagion a person suffering with terminal cancer and saying that their death is nothing special! :(

So what you are saying is that the pope is better than all of us? I agree with Mentor, what does the pope do other than wave and bless EVERYTHING he comes in contact with. It is nothing special if he dies.

As long as you are famous in this world, you will make the headlines for anything. A few monthes ago, the pope had a cough. World news for a week. Please. Honestly, everyone coughs. I just coughed , put me on page 3.

Even if you arent dying, all famous people are always making the news. Look at celebrities. " OMG! BRAD AND JEN BROKE UP! OMG!" WE DONT CARE.

Pawf
02-04-2005, 09:44 AM
It's not just because he is famous. It is because he is our spiritual father.

Mentor
02-04-2005, 11:23 AM
You cant realy say "our" as hes only the chaflics (And possibly a few other christian groups) spirital leader, but not everyone elses aka aithists, and other religions whoich would have there own.

Pawf
02-04-2005, 11:24 AM
I am saying our because I am a Catholic

GommeInc
02-04-2005, 11:41 AM
Then say my catholic leader

Pawf
02-04-2005, 11:42 AM
No, I'll say our, because I am referring to me and other Catholics

micky.blue.eyes
02-04-2005, 12:38 PM
I'm not sad, not because I'm not a believer, but it didn't came as a surprise, the man is/was very old and is health is/was already going down.
So be happy it wasn't a surprise because it would have been a bigger shock.

Concentric
02-04-2005, 02:51 PM
But he was such a great influence, he stuck by his beliefs.
Isn't that because he's the Pope? If you're the Pope you're not going to start questioning religious beliefs that you're supposed to stand for, so of course it's going to appear that he 'stands by his beliefs'.

I think that he is undoubtedly a very influential figure and i don't wish for him to die, but to be honest i agree with Mentor and Stratocaster - his celebrity status does somewhat amplify what is a very natural occurance.

Jacko2kn3
02-04-2005, 03:22 PM
It said in an article (can't remember where) that this isn't as bad as it seems. I mean, as people have said he is an old man, with parkinsons and a few other things wrong with him. Dying will take him to God (if there is one o.O), and the Daily Telegraph headline was he is already touching Gods hand. Such a devote man deserves our prayers, if we are catholic or not.

misspartyqueen
02-04-2005, 03:28 PM
It is worrying, I hope he had a great life and enjoy every minute


i completely agree with ya :)

xsaucy-stephx
02-04-2005, 04:09 PM
I sort of agree on both sides, to catholics and other such religions the pope is extremely big, hes an important role in the catholic life, but he has had a lot of publicity lately over his illness's. My views on this topic is that hes had a long and fulfilling life, happy and free to follow his god and bless fellow followers.
So im going to pay my respects to him even though i am of no religion, but im not gonna mourn afterwards, i hardly knew him.

Steph
x

Pulchritudinous
02-04-2005, 07:02 PM
So what you are saying is that the pope is better than all of us? I agree with Mentor, what does the pope do other than wave and bless EVERYTHING he comes in contact with. It is nothing special if he dies.

As long as you are famous in this world, you will make the headlines for anything. A few monthes ago, the pope had a cough. World news for a week. Please. Honestly, everyone coughs. I just coughed , put me on page 3.

Even if you arent dying, all famous people are always making the news. Look at celebrities. " OMG! BRAD AND JEN BROKE UP! OMG!" WE DONT CARE.

Maybe he was close to some people, many people care about him, how would you feel if your brother or something was famous, and just happened to be on the news/in newspapers, it's not their choice to be, why be so negative, death is always a sad thing, for anyone.

la-ur-en
02-04-2005, 07:08 PM
Isn't that because he's the Pope? If you're the Pope you're not going to start questioning religious beliefs that you're supposed to stand for, so of course it's going to appear that he 'stands by his beliefs'.

I think that he is undoubtedly a very influential figure and i don't wish for him to die, but to be honest i agree with Mentor and Stratocaster - his celebrity status does somewhat amplify what is a very natural occurance.

Actually, what i meant by it was that the other popes stood back when they seen there government doing wrong, but he spoke up when his government was doing wrong.

Rich.Boy
02-04-2005, 07:14 PM
It is sad but he is extremely old ay 84 years old.

Dad says that theyll spend hours deciding on the new pope then theyll burn all the papers in the fire and then youll see the smoke to show thers a new pope. I never knew that happened lol.

G-flow
02-04-2005, 07:16 PM
I'm sure they choose one of the cardinals :p

*.Glitter.Rip.*
02-04-2005, 07:39 PM
So what you are saying is that the pope is better than all of us? I agree with Mentor, what does the pope do other than wave and bless EVERYTHING he comes in contact with. It is nothing special if he dies.

As long as you are famous in this world, you will make the headlines for anything. A few monthes ago, the pope had a cough. World news for a week. Please. Honestly, everyone coughs. I just coughed , put me on page 3.

Even if you arent dying, all famous people are always making the news. Look at celebrities. " OMG! BRAD AND JEN BROKE UP! OMG!" WE DONT CARE.
Hes not a celebrity. And yes I believe that he is a good leader and yes he is better than most of the people in the world by doing more good. So your saying that this death of the pope isnt important? Even though he has been caring to others? He isnt a bad pope but yes he is important to the christian beliefers.
He is suffering with alot and It is a big issue because The head leader of the catholic churches is dying. Its nice to know someone doesnt care if somebody dies. Wonder what John Paul would think saying that? Not nice is it? He isnt an actor even though he did go to study it but was invaded by the nazi's but he has been a influence to a lot of christian believers.

Now I Cant believe You Dont Care. Thats wrong and you should care for others. Maybe you should think about what you say in this post because that has offended me as a catholic.

scottish
02-04-2005, 07:41 PM
I Actually HATE the pope I Was Wanting Him To Die :S So.. All This "Bad" News To You Is "Good" News To Me :p

*.Glitter.Rip.*
02-04-2005, 07:43 PM
I Actually HATE the pope I Was Wanting Him To Die :S So.. All This "Bad" News To You Is "Good" News To Me :p
Why do you hate him? Is this a Joke?

Anti-Frizz
02-04-2005, 08:04 PM
I think the pope's just died :(

lukeisok
02-04-2005, 08:11 PM
Pope John Paul Has Sadly Passed away.



Hes Was Great Legend :'(


He Has Passed Away :'(

*.Glitter.Rip.*
02-04-2005, 08:24 PM
Well let his spirit rise into the gates of heaven. :)

Mentor
02-04-2005, 08:34 PM
the pope was going to die, it wasnt unexspcted, at least hes not in pain, and moved on to what ever he blived was next

"I Actually HATE the pope I Was Wanting Him To Die :S So.. All This "Bad" News To You Is "Good" News To Me" bit random why do you hate someone youve never met, and dont know, and whos never done anything to you.

la-ur-en
02-04-2005, 09:09 PM
I Actually HATE the pope I Was Wanting Him To Die :S So.. All This "Bad" News To You Is "Good" News To Me :p

This kind of comment only confirms the outside worlds view of our narrow minded religious bigotery. No death should be hailed with joy.

Pulchritudinous
03-04-2005, 09:06 PM
I think it was a joke, judging by the smiley at the end of it, although it's a bit of a twisted joke.

la-ur-en
05-04-2005, 09:06 PM
I think it was a joke, judging by the smiley at the end of it, although it's a bit of a twisted joke.

Well if it was a joke i didn't find it very amusing :@

Robbie..
05-04-2005, 09:23 PM
I'm catholic. The pope was our head of all the catholic church and he was a religious leader, therefore evryone should respect him.

Luayminator
07-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Everyone should be sad about someones death and i dont remember hwo but the guy who made the joke , get a life

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