Stupid rule!

[Seatherny]

Right firstly I was cautioned unfairly, and the Admin who broke the rules ... well nothing happens to him.

Secondly,


Hmm 28-12-2006 11:30 PM 26-02-2007 11:30 PM 1 Multiple Posting nvrspk4

I just got that infraction. I would post in the "Report Infractions" thread, but the usergroup settings mean I can only reply to my own threads (pretty stupid really).

He said don't double post within the 15 minute edit time limit, well as I am cautioned, I cant edit my posts so I dont get a "edit time limit". Either give cautioned members a 15 minute time limit or remove the damn infraction. Do you caution people so they get more infractions? Looks like you are as we can only post in our own threads, we cant edit our posts (meaning we double post and get more infractions).

Sort out your damn usergroup permissions.

[Seatherny]

Also why do Admins caution us for breaking the rules but if they break the rules they get away with it? Ostinato should be BANNED for breaking over 20 rules!
MAD said it himself - anyone who calls someone else a "Idiot" will be banned. Ostinato called me a idiot, therefore he should be banned.

PS - I CANT BLOODY EDIT MY POST SO MERGE MY POST INSTEAD OF INFRACTING ME.

[Hopeless]

I've never been cautioned so i wouldn't know, but if you can't report infractions just wait until your not cautioned anymore and report them then or just email them telling them this:
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13

[Seatherny]

I've never been cautioned so i wouldn't know, but if you can't report infractions just wait until your not cautioned anymore and report them then or just email them telling them this:
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13

Email then?
The Admins and AGMs admitted no one ever looks at them.

[---MAD---]

Email then?
The Admins and AGMs admitted no one ever looks at them.
Jin looks at the email daily actually :).

You will need to wait until your caution is over before you can report an unfair infraction :).

You should wait 15 mins before replying to a thread anyway, that way you wont be infracted ;).

[Seatherny]

Jin looks at the email daily actually :).

You will need to wait until your caution is over before you can report an unfair infraction :).

You should wait 15 mins before replying to a thread anyway, that way you wont be infracted ;).

Yes, but if you arent cautioned you can edit it - therfore you dont need to double post. But if you are cautioned you cant edit!
Please sort out the damn permissions.

Jin probably looks at them on a daily basis now, but he was away for a while a few weeks ago.

[Nixt]

I think I once saw an Administrator post somewhere saying that you can't edit as that is a "Forum luxury" and therefore it is taken away as a result of your caution.
As you're cautioned, you should be extra careful in following the rules - the rule is that you don't double post within the first fifteen minutes of posting your previous post, I can only assume this still stands for cautioned members despite the fact they can't edit.

[Seatherny]

I think I once saw an Administrator post somewhere saying that you can't edit as that is a "Forum luxury" and therefore it is taken away as a result of your caution.
As you're cautioned, you should be extra careful in following the rules - the rule is that you don't double post within the first fifteen minutes of posting your previous post, I can only assume this still stands for cautioned members despite the fact they can't edit.


Well its stupid then.
Administrators like MAD and (well he isnt a admin now) - Ostinato dont gte banned/fired for breaking the rules?

[Nixt]

Well its stupid then.
I didn't necessarily say I agree with it :p.



Administrators like MAD and (well he isnt a admin now) - Ostinato dont gte banned/fired for breaking the rules?

If you can find a post where they have broken the rules:
a) it would be relatively surprising as they are supposed to be setting a good example to members (particularly as they are in charge of the Forum).

b) you would need to report it to someone who can take the necessary action - i.e. 8Freak8 or sierk, because continually making threads complaining about the individuals iand then making offensive posts/threads across the Forum doesn't get you anywhere.

[Seatherny]

Well I sent 8Freak8, smiddy and sierk a big list of the rules they broke, wanna see it?
I get banned for saying to Ostinato "stop acting like a lil child"
And he calls me a Idiot ... Admins get away with anything they like.

Wait after 15 mins I will post the PM i sent them ;]

[Nixt]

Well I sent 8Freak8, smiddy and sierk a big list of the rules they broke, wanna see it?
I get banned for saying to Ostinato "stop acting like a lil child"
And he calls me a Idiot ... Admins get away with anything they like.

Wait after 15 mins I will post the PM i sent them ;]

If you have private messaged them, I am sure it will be dealt with appropriately. Firstly, the General Managers and sierk are obviously very busy so they have a lot to look over as well as your complaint, so you can't expect an instantaneous reply.
Secondly, you can't know for sure that nothing is being done - because you don't have the luxury to see all of the private messages exchanged between the General Managers and individuals you have made the accusations against.

[Djcafc.]

i can see why you got it you double posted even when complaining about an infraction and all rules of habbox are there for one reason or another you just have to learn to obide by them

[brandon]

I've always liked Ostinato but your caution is pretty harsh.

[Hopeless]

if he call you a idiot after you called him a stupid lil child?

If so he kinda has a reason why. :S

[Seatherny]

If you have private messaged them, I am sure it will be dealt with appropriately. Firstly, the General Managers and sierk are obviously very busy so they have a lot to look over as well as your complaint, so you can't expect an instantaneous reply.
Secondly, you can't know for sure that nothing is being done - because you don't have the luxury to see all of the private messages exchanged between the General Managers and individuals you have made the accusations against.



Actually they have looked at it and replied. And they told me nothing will be done because apparently there isnt enough proof? Look at my damn PMs! Look at the 2 threads in the Unacceptable forums where he called me a idiot aswell.

As I said .. Admins get the special treatment (Like MAD admitted)

[Nixt]

If so he kinda has a reason why. :S

I'm not making any accusations but Moderators are told that they must always be incredibly polite to everyone even if they are incredibly rude. I can only assume the same applies to Administrators.


Actually they have looked at it and replied. And they told me nothing will be done because apparently there isnt enough proof? Look at my damn PMs! Look at the 2 threads in the Unacceptable forums where he called me a idiot aswell.

If they say there isn't enough proof then that must be the case. I can't comment any further on that because obviously I can't see the private messages neither can I see the Unacceptable Forum and therefore the threads. I am pretty confident that if there was enough evidence something would have been done though.


As I said .. Admins get the special treatment (Like MAD admitted)

Of course they do! They keep everything running smoothly and make sure the Forum doesn't fall apart.

Ostinato has resigned now anyway, so surely you have what you want?

[Seatherny]

if he call you a idiot after you called him a stupid lil child?

If so he kinda has a reason why. :S

Merge my posts!

He perm banned me for that .. but he calls me a idiot?
As a Administrator, he wasnt meant to reply to rude PMs or threads, but he did. If you saw the reply he gave in a thread, you would see he was more rude (people who saw the thread agree)

Merge my post with the above post.
Here is the PM I sent
I go on a bit too much ... but I just want him banned :)


Hello smiddy1234 ; 8Freak8 ; sierk

Over the last few weeks, I have seen Ostinato break alot of forum rules.

He banned me while I was staff - which I think isnt allowed as only my manager/AGM/GM/sierk can do this.

I voiced my opinion about him, and he didnt like it therefore he banned me. I dont think it says in the forum rules that its not allowed to voice your opinion.

He didnt leave a ban evidence in the ban report, what does this tell you? He is lazy. He is a admin who should be setting an example to the super mods.

He sent me 6 private messages, out of which one of them said "please do not send me any more pms or I will caution you". I replied to his first 5 PMs, and then read the 6th one. For this he perm banned me.

The ban reason says he asked me many times not to send him PMs - he only asked me once.
So according to this ... I can send someone 200 private messages and in one of them write "do not reply", and I can get that person banned?

Ostinato called me a idiot, so he should be banned. (I can proove this as I have it in PM)

In the last 5 days, he has increased his rep using admincp - which I believe isnt allowed? You can check this in Admin Logs.

Rude towards me, calling me sad and a idiot. He said "I find it sad you were online on xmas day" - I dont think he realises there are different religions and people with different beliefs who dont celebrate christmas. He also said "You are a idiot, look up the meaning of harrasment". I think he should look up the meaning as he said "If you send me PMs no matter what they say, its harrasment"

Smod guide says dont reply to unacceptable threads. He replied to mine and flamed me. Later when I prooved him wrong, a admin moved the thread to the "Unacceptables forum". Smods/Admins/AGM/GMs saw that thread and they didnt move it, even Ostinato replied. Why is it when I prooved Ostinato wrong that the thread was moved?

He resigned when he wasnt promoted to Forum Manager. He said it was unfair as he was next in line. When he got promoted to Super Moderator, there were already 3 other smods. He got promoted to Admin before them, why did he say "Oh, I don't think its fair that I got promoted before them". He refused to work as MAD's assistant, this shows how great teamworker he is.
This was about a month ago!

After 8Freak8 unbanned me, I sent Ostinato a PM apologising and asking if we can be friends - he didnt reply. So I think this means he doesn't accept my apology and doesnt wish to be friends - great AFM you have here!!

Above are just a few of the rules he has broken.
Please have a look at my thread in the "Unacceptables Forum" which has a title "I would just like to say, I really HATE"
Please have a look at this thread aswell:
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=286961

Thanks

[Mentor]

tbh the cautioned member stuff was to annoying for me and i spent a week on a differnt account when i had it "/

[Seatherny]

tbh the cautioned member stuff was to annoying for me and i spent a week on a differnt account when i had it "/

Btw a note to mods/smods/admin - posting that Pm isnt against the rule as I am posting what I sent them - not their reply back (legoman get that in your head and reverse my infraction please)

[---MAD---]

You were perm banned at first, then it was reduce to a caution. Can you tell me what your after (in 1 post).

Thanks
MAD

[Seatherny]

You were perm banned at first, then it was reduce to a caution. Can you tell me what your after (in 1 post).

Thanks
MAD

Hmm get your facts right.
Firstly you wanted me perm banned (which was unfair and 8Freak8 unbanned me NOT REDUCED). I think he told you that you guys should give out less perm bans? Shows how much you want to abuse your powers.
I was cautioned for having my bluetooth name as "Ostinarso".
I want Ostinato banned like I showed above, he has broken many rules and nothing happens to him. I broke 2 rules and I got perm banned and then cautioned.

[darkchicken101]

Can I ask why he now has a rep power of 12, and not 6, which he had after he quit from Admin for a breif period of time?

[Seatherny]

Can I ask why he now has a rep power of 12, and not 6, which he had after he quit from Admin for a breif period of time?

Like I said, he increased his rep via admincp a few days ago.

[Ostinato]

Also why do Admins caution us for breaking the rules but if they break the rules they get away with it? Ostinato should be BANNED for breaking over 20 rules!
MAD said it himself - anyone who calls someone else a "Idiot" will be banned. Ostinato called me a idiot, therefore he should be banned.

PS - I CANT BLOODY EDIT MY POST SO MERGE MY POST INSTEAD OF INFRACTING ME.

Lol where have I ever called you an idiot? :S

You claim in a PM? Well I think that's actually quite hilarious, considering the fact MAD and Catzsy seen every PM sent - and it was actually MAD who agreed with your permanant ban as I reffered it to him as I was unsure if it was too harsh or not. :)

Also, I fail to see why you say there was no ban report left, as there clearly was?

Anyway. I would appreciate if you could please stop creating scandalous, slanderous and harrasive threads about me as to be quite honest - it's starting to become a bit of a case of "online bullying".

Listen. When you were unbanned you PM'd me aplogising and I accepted that. Therefore I thought all of this was in the past but you have seemed to create numerous threads insulting me. I would appreciate if you would a stop to this and realise that it really isn't bothering me. There is 1 day left of this year, and then it's a whole fresh start. I do not wish to argue with you and I can assure you I am not going to have any differences with you over an online forum as I have much better things to do with my time. If you wish to continue this petty and childish argument over nothing, then feel free - but I hope you can think and realise how silly it really is and be the bigger man and let it slip.

Thank you. :)

[DiscoPat]

pwnt..

[ksoz1]

Lol where have I ever called you an idiot? :S

You claim in a PM? Well I think that's actually quite hilarious, considering the fact MAD and Catzsy seen every PM sent - and it was actually MAD who agreed with your permanant ban as I reffered it to him as I was unsure if it was too harsh or not. :)

Also, I fail to see why you say there was no ban report left, as there clearly was?

Anyway. I would appreciate if you could please stop creating scandalous, slanderous and harrasive threads about me as to be quite honest - it's starting to become a bit of a case of "online bullying".

Listen. When you were unbanned you PM'd me aplogising and I accepted that. Therefore I thought all of this was in the past but you have seemed to create numerous threads insulting me. I would appreciate if you would a stop to this and realise that it really isn't bothering me. There is 1 day left of this year, and then it's a whole fresh start. I do not wish to argue with you and I can assure you I am not going to have any differences with you over an online forum as I have much better things to do with my time. If you wish to continue this petty and childish argument over nothing, then feel free - but I hope you can think and realise how silly it really is and be the bigger man and let it slip.

Thank you. :)

well why didnt you reply to the PM? :s
Anyway this thread died out ... why did you re-bump it?
I cba aguing with people like you now ... waste of time as Habbox wont ever accept the mistakes they have made.

[nvrspk4]

Secondly,



I just got that infraction. I would post in the "Report Infractions" thread, but the usergroup settings mean I can only reply to my own threads (pretty stupid really).

He said don't double post within the 15 minute edit time limit, well as I am cautioned, I cant edit my posts so I dont get a "edit time limit". Either give cautioned members a 15 minute time limit or remove the damn infraction. Do you caution people so they get more infractions? Looks like you are as we can only post in our own threads, we cant edit our posts (meaning we double post and get more infractions).

Sort out your damn usergroup permissions.

As I said in that post, even if you are cautioned you still have to abide by the 15 minute rule. This is your punishment for being cautioned, and there are reasons for that being taken away, including what Nixt said about it being a privilege and its also so that you do not edit moderator edits which many users did when cautions came into effect. If you have a problem with the way I do my job feel free to contact 8Freak8, Smiddy1234, or sierk ;)

And this thread wasn't dying, last post was yesterday :s Plus I'm sure you made your fair share of mistakes when you were here at Habbox ;)

[Mentor]

And this thread wasn't dying, last post was yesterday :s Plus I'm sure you made your fair share of mistakes when you were here at Habbox ;)
Hes Cautioned o.0 so it kinda figures.

Plus to be fair, a day is sinking on this forum, its pretty active "/

[Ostinato]

I never replied because I had a ton of name changes to get through with as well as it being the Christmas period.

I apologise if my caution/ban towards you offended or upset you in any way as I assure you, it was in no way personal.

I accept the apology you sent me, but would aprpeciate if we could both be mature about this and move on forgetting the whole childish issue.

Cheers. :)

[nvrspk4]

Hes Cautioned o.0 so it kinda figures.

Plus to be fair, a day is sinking on this forum, its pretty active "/

I was more talking about his Super Moderator days :p And as for the second bit, yeah but it mighta been on the first page and if you saw a thread about you just a day old would you reply? :p

[Mentor]

I was more talking about his Super Moderator days :pDoesnt that make the point even stronger? aka he "used" to be a super mod, but aint now ? then again i wouldn't say i did anything wrong, yet i got fired from a managers job, not that i particularly care, back in those days we didnt get payed, and web designers actually had to do work (before mambo), so in my eyes any work i did was a favor to the site, which doesnt work well when your treated like a lowly employing - forum = community, NOT dictatorship.
(Im rambling because i spent the last 17 hours solidly programming and im still no where near done.)


And as for the second bit, yeah but it mighta been on the first page and if you saw a thread about you just a day old would you reply? :p
I'd reply if its a month old, the fact i still say it "was" sinking, doesnt change the fact id still be straight in there if i did spy one. Im not exsactly the kinda person that shys away from an agrument :D

[Seatherny]

As I said in that post, even if you are cautioned you still have to abide by the 15 minute rule. This is your punishment for being cautioned, and there are reasons for that being taken away, including what Nixt said about it being a privilege and its also so that you do not edit moderator edits which many users did when cautions came into effect. If you have a problem with the way I do my job feel free to contact 8Freak8, Smiddy1234, or sierk ;)

And this thread wasn't dying, last post was yesterday :s Plus I'm sure you made your fair share of mistakes when you were here at Habbox ;)

I dont have a problem with the way you do your job, you guys should let us know what features are disabled when we get cautioned. I thought as we couldnt edit - the 15 minute edit rule shouldnt apply. Also shoouldnt the infraction be a warning, not a proper infraction?
The thread was at the bottom of the page, there are so many threads being made in this forum like mentor said, that even if a thread is a few hours old, it can be classed as dying.


I never replied because I had a ton of name changes to get through with as well as it being the Christmas period.

I apologise if my caution/ban towards you offended or upset you in any way as I assure you, it was in no way personal.

I accept the apology you sent me, but would aprpeciate if we could both be mature about this and move on forgetting the whole childish issue.

Cheers. :)

Np, I just thought the perm ban wasnt fair, maybe a caution :p
Anyway I have decided to be mature :p - like yesterday on MSN ;]

[nvrspk4]

Doesnt that make the point even stronger? aka he "used" to be a super mod, but aint now ? then again i wouldn't say i did anything wrong, yet i got fired from a managers job, not that i particularly care, back in those days we didnt get payed, and web designers actually had to do work (before mambo), so in my eyes any work i did was a favor to the site, which doesnt work well when your treated like a lowly employing - forum = community, NOT dictatorship.

Erm doesn't make it stronger how I see it. I can't comment on your firing though I was surprised by it. You'll find that we do treat our staff quite well which is the main point of the thread, Saurav thinks we treat them too well :p


(Im rambling because i spent the last 17 hours solidly programming and im still no where near done.)

Lmao poor you


I'd reply if its a month old, the fact i still say it "was" sinking, doesnt change the fact id still be straight in there if i did spy one. Im not exsactly the kinda person that shys away from an agrument :D

Haha this I know :p


I dont have a problem with the way you do your job, you guys should let us know what features are disabled when we get cautioned. I thought as we couldnt edit - the 15 minute edit rule shouldnt apply. Also shoouldnt the infraction be a warning, not a proper infraction?
The thread was at the bottom of the page, there are so many threads being made in this forum like mentor said, that even if a thread is a few hours old, it can be classed as dying.

The infraction was a proper infraction due to multiple instances of the offense. And if there was a thread regarding you on the bottom wouldn't you reply :p


Np, I just thought the perm ban wasnt fair, maybe a caution :p
Anyway I have decided to be mature :p - like yesterday on MSN ;]

Awesome, hopefully this can all be put in the past then :D

[DannyyTBH.]

Right firstly I was cautioned unfairly, and the Admin who broke the rules ... well nothing happens to him.

Secondly,



I just got that infraction. I would post in the "Report Infractions" thread, but the usergroup settings mean I can only reply to my own threads (pretty stupid really).

He said don't double post within the 15 minute edit time limit, well as I am cautioned, I cant edit my posts so I dont get a "edit time limit". Either give cautioned members a 15 minute time limit or remove the damn infraction. Do you caution people so they get more infractions? Looks like you are as we can only post in our own threads, we cant edit our posts (meaning we double post and get more infractions).

Sort out your damn usergroup permissions.
Maybe before you do it read the forum rules if you think its not fair