Being cautioned.

[English]

I'm not going to say 'I don't deserve to be cautioned' cos I probably do, the fact of the matter is that some of the permissions removed whilst being cautioned are stupid. If you'd like to read below:

No PMs: The first main and big problem with this is that I have no idea how long my caution is for and what actual reasons I got it. I have a right to know how long I am cautioned for and there is no communication around this. Also can you get infractions whilst you are cautioned? Cos if you can then how the hell are you meant to know you've got an infraction? I dunno if you can though hah.

Unable to look at members list: Urmm just what exactly is the point in this? Say if I wanted to find a post by a certain member to back a point up then I can't? Hell taking away the right to PM is enough, but not being able to find a certain member from the members list is stupid, especially if they are inactive.

Unable to reply in 'Questions/Comments/Suggestions for Habbox: This surely isn't a "luxury". I mean why aren't we allowed to reply in this section? If I wanted to post a comment like in the thread ksoz made, I am unable to because I'm cautioned? That's stupid, you just don't want half the users showing the flaws/problems about it. Other members who are cautioned won't be able to reply to this cos of this stupid thing.

Unable to Edit: Haha this is stupid. You are cautioned for breaking the rules and then practically FORCED to break them again by double posting cos you can't edit your post. Say for example if you made a post accusing someone of something, then it turned out you made a mistake you can't even edit the post so that the person doesn't have to be shown up or mis-represented? I don't personally see how "being able to edit for upto 15minutes is a luxury" anyway, it should be a vital option - cautioned or not cautioned.


I hope I don't get a stupid member of staff posting some usual rubbish reply which is BIASED information which they have been told, not even regarding their own opinions.

[Mr.Sam]

The reason for any caution is to try to prevent that person breaking the rules again, key features are removed so the person experiences the forum with out the privileges they usually have.

also you are allowed to double post as long as you are adding information to the first post that is if you are the thread starter..

[Nixt]

Also can you get infractions whilst you are cautioned? Cos if you can then how the hell are you meant to know you've got an infraction? I dunno if you can though hah.


You can get infractions while cautioned :).

[f-r-i-j-j]

i got an infraction because i broke a rule i never knew existed. i think you should be cautioned and warned before getting an infraction. i dont even know what one is but there you go. i got one.

[English]

The reason for any caution is to try to prevent that person breaking the rules again, key features are removed so the person experiences the forum with out the privileges they usually have.

also you are allowed to double post as long as you are adding information to the first post that is if you are the thread starter..
Yeah but these reasons I enlisted flaw it, I mean if it's 'luxuries' like rep+vip then sure enough but if I'm going to break rules then by not allowing me to edit would just increase the chances of me double posting?

You can get infractions while cautioned :).
And how the hell are we meant to know we've got them?

[benjamin]

you can get infractions whilst caution they autmatically send

and also, craig if you click 'edit profile' in your usercp it tells you your caution length :]

edit: craig they appear in your pm box you can read it and then it's gone.

[Mr.Sam]

Yeah but these reasons I enlisted flaw it, I mean if it's 'luxuries' like rep+vip then sure enough but if I'm going to break rules then by not allowing me to edit would just increase the chances of me double posting?

And how the hell are we meant to know we've got them?

the edit removal is to get you to think of what your going to post to try to stop you pointless posting or whatever in the future.

[benjamin]

when i was cautioned last week i could edit, lol?

[Nixt]

And how the hell are we meant to know we've got them?

You can read the message.

[Charlie]

i got an infraction because i broke a rule i never knew existed. i think you should be cautioned and warned before getting an infraction. i dont even know what one is but there you go. i got one.

That's a stupid idea sorry.

Infractions are like warnings, and when you get a certain amount, you get cautioned then banned. Giving out cautions then infractions is really stupid.

And, as for what Craig said, i kind of agree withthat your saying, but at the same time your cautioned for breaking the rules, so you shouldn't be able to have things like pms etc. But, as you said you need to find out and that, maybe make it so you can pm staff or something to find out?

[Eamonn]

You can't even vote in polls, what sort of lesson is that trying to teach us

''You have been naughty, one shall not vote in polls!''

[Mentor]

I just vacate to a differnt account when it happens, that way you can still use the forum "/

[ksoz1]

I'm not going to say 'I don't deserve to be cautioned' cos I probably do, the fact of the matter is that some of the permissions removed whilst being cautioned are stupid. If you'd like to read below:

No PMs: The first main and big problem with this is that I have no idea how long my caution is for and what actual reasons I got it. I have a right to know how long I am cautioned for and there is no communication around this. Also can you get infractions whilst you are cautioned? Cos if you can then how the hell are you meant to know you've got an infraction? I dunno if you can though hah.

Unable to look at members list: Urmm just what exactly is the point in this? Say if I wanted to find a post by a certain member to back a point up then I can't? Hell taking away the right to PM is enough, but not being able to find a certain member from the members list is stupid, especially if they are inactive.

Unable to reply in 'Questions/Comments/Suggestions for Habbox: This surely isn't a "luxury". I mean why aren't we allowed to reply in this section? If I wanted to post a comment like in the thread ksoz made, I am unable to because I'm cautioned? That's stupid, you just don't want half the users showing the flaws/problems about it. Other members who are cautioned won't be able to reply to this cos of this stupid thing.

Unable to Edit: Haha this is stupid. You are cautioned for breaking the rules and then practically FORCED to break them again by double posting cos you can't edit your post. Say for example if you made a post accusing someone of something, then it turned out you made a mistake you can't even edit the post so that the person doesn't have to be shown up or mis-represented? I don't personally see how "being able to edit for upto 15minutes is a luxury" anyway, it should be a vital option - cautioned or not cautioned.


I hope I don't get a stupid member of staff posting some usual rubbish reply which is BIASED information which they have been told, not even regarding their own opinions.

Habbox will never be the same with corrupt staff like MAD :)


The reason for any caution is to try to prevent that person breaking the rules again, key features are removed so the person experiences the forum with out the privileges they usually have.

also you are allowed to double post as long as you are adding information to the first post that is if you are the thread starter..

No you arent? I double posted and nvrspk4 infracted me. Get your facts right, you are a super moderator.

I think they caution people/perm ban people (which they have been doing a lot as 8Freak8 told MAD to stop - more evidence of power abuse) so people create new accounts and it looks like they have more members. (Please dont give me all that bull about how you clear accounts)

[benjamin]

Habbox will never be the same with corrupt staff like MAD :)



No you arent? I double posted and nvrspk4 infracted me. Get your facts right, you are a super moderator.

I think they caution people/perm ban people (which they have been doing a lot as 8Freak8 told MAD to stop - more evidence of power abuse) so people create new accounts and it looks like they have more members. (Please dont give me all that bull about how you clear accounts)
actually he is right. you're allowed to double post after the 15 minute edit timer if you're adding more information with relevance to the thread.

[Mr.Sam]

Habbox will never be the same with corrupt staff like MAD :)



No you arent? I double posted and nvrspk4 infracted me. Get your facts right, you are a super moderator.

I think they caution people/perm ban people (which they have been doing a lot as 8Freak8 told MAD to stop - more evidence of power abuse) so people create new accounts and it looks like they have more members. (Please dont give me all that bull about how you clear accounts)

C4. Double Posting - Double posting is allowed after the 15 minutes have passed if you are adding new information. Other wise it is not allowed to double post.

[---MAD---]

Yeah but these reasons I enlisted flaw it, I mean if it's 'luxuries' like rep+vip then sure enough but if I'm going to break rules then by not allowing me to edit would just increase the chances of me double posting?

And how the hell are we meant to know we've got them?
Check your user cp, latest infractions are listed there :).

[ksoz1]

C4. Double Posting - Double posting is allowed after the 15 minutes have passed if you are adding new information. Other wise it is not allowed to double post.

I was on about double posting within the 15 minute edit time limit. As we dont get a 15 minute edit time limit, we shouldnt be infractioned for double posting.
Either give us a 15 minute edit time limit ... or DONT infraction us.
Why cant we reply to other peoples thread in this forum? Is it because you guys are worried we will reveal all your flaws and actually speak up?
Most (NOT ALL) people on this forum suck up to management. OMG OMG MAD I LOVE U, PLS CAN I BE A MOD. I have seen it all.
Unfortuantely there are some people who arent suck ups and voice their opinion - are you stopping us from posting because you know we are right?

Well what can we expect? We have 12-13 year olds running this forum.

[---MAD---]

I was on about double posting within the 15 minute edit time limit. As we dont get a 15 minute edit time limit, we shouldnt be infractioned for double posting.
Either give us a 15 minute edit time limit ... or DONT infraction us.
Why cant we reply to other peoples thread in this forum? Is it because you guys are worried we will reveal all your flaws and actually speak up?
Most (NOT ALL) people on this forum suck up to management. OMG OMG MAD I LOVE U, PLS CAN I BE A MOD. I have seen it all.
Unfortuantely there are some people who arent suck ups and voice their opinion - are you stopping us from posting because you know we are right?

Well what can we expect? We have 12-13 year olds running this forum.
I am not too sure why it was set up like that. You need to remember that group was made by Jackhb / seacat / baving (I believe). Maybe even before that.

Also, I am not sure why you think I banned you or w/e, I didn't :).

[Mentor]

Jack? ah that exsplains it, its probably just another of his evil jokes o.o... ahh i miss the days of jack, he was the one admin you could truely and thoughly **** off :p
(the amount of times hes changed my profile to "i love jack" =.=)

[---MAD---]

Jack? ah that exsplains it, its probably just another of his evil jokes o.o... ahh i miss the days of jack, he was the one admin you could truely and thoughly **** off :p
(the amount of times hes changed my profile to "i love jack" =.=)
I might be wrong, maybe dj-3000 made it, I honestly can't remember :).

[Barkseh2131]

There is some good points there actually.

[ksoz1]

I am not too sure why it was set up like that. You need to remember that group was made by Jackhb / seacat / baving (I believe). Maybe even before that.

Also, I am not sure why you think I banned you or w/e, I didn't :).

It was set up wayyyyy before baving became admin. I know it was set up before Sept 05. You are now the Forum Manager, why dont you edit the permissions?

Ostinato said you asked him to perm ban me.
He said he showed you all the PMs and you requested him to perm ban me.
Another reason I am annoyed at you is you moved my thread when AGM/GM/smods thought it was fine? They saw it before you and if they thought it was unacceptable they would have moved it. If it was unacceptable, why did Ostinato reply?