This is a freeking shams

[Boxiel]

Why has hx put White smoke to 14 T?


There is only 2 on the hotel

nick still has his

and i certainally didnt buy for 14 T

so how can it be at 14 T?

CHANGE IT

[benjamin]

lmao at that

idiotic

[Roboevil]

cus i got loads of em and sold em for 14T.

[Boxiel]

cus i got loads of em and sold em for 14T.
WHITE SMOKE

Not RED,


There are only 2, i dont see how you got "loads" Jeez,
I got it from pitch for ALOT more then 14 freeking T

[benjamin]

WHITE SMOKE

Not RED,


There are only 2, i dont see how you got "loads" Jeez,
I got it from pitch for ALOT more then 14 freeking T
he was joking ;p

[Boxiel]

he was joking ;p
Really? I didnt pick up on a single bit of sarcasm there.

Looking at the "report rare values" forum, NO-ONE has reported it

so that makes -undertaker, putting the values at his own cost,

GOOD JOB /sarcasm

[benjamin]

i moaned in the ask rare value reporters section

sorry but they say their values isn't fixed?

[Boxiel]

i moaned in the ask rare value reporters section

sorry but they say their values isn't fixed?

No one has seen it being traded at 14 T, i traded for 18,

so how does that work out?

[benjamin]

No one has seen it being traded at 14 T, i traded for 18,

so how does that work out?
exactly :rolleyes:

[Boxiel]

I can see why pitch & fitcovboy quit... The values are sucks. J1MI is the only one who ever does his job right any more, (sorry to you knew guys)

Btw this ISNT related to fitcovboy's thread about rare values.

[Nick-]

I can see why pitch & fitcovboy quit... The values are sucks. J1MI is the only one who ever does his job right any more, (sorry to you knew guys)

Btw this ISNT related to fitcovboy's thread about rare values.
Sure it isnt ;P

Yer im outraged too but unfortunately i have to keep it bottled or vent it somewhere else other than here, if i say exactly what i wanted to about the value i might end up losing my job ;)

[-Eliminate]

i find it very obvious why its gone down

smokes have a big risk of being released that why

[Nick-]

Theres only 2 in existance, unless one of them is traded the value should stay the same, one of the smokes has been traded and it was for a lot more than 14T

[Papershop]

surely it should rise, because of the amount of people trying to get thier hands on one.
But o well, lucky mate

[8Freak8]

Will be looked into.

[benjamin]

surely it should rise, because of the amount of people trying to get thier hands on one.
But o well, lucky mate
the price should change to 18T - which is what he payed, and it has been the only one traded.

[Homosexual]

@lethal - It's worth at least 20throne. But 18t sounds good.

@the rvr team - You will look into it? We ask, but it never changes. Typical.

*gets infractions & banned*

[:Hazel]

Habbox is "only a guide" anyway so why do people go mad about it? It might be wrong but people shouldnt follow it like its some kind of bible...

[benjamin]

@lethal - It's worth at least 20throne. But 18t sounds good.

@the rvr team - You will look into it? We ask, but it never changes. Typical.

*gets infractions & banned*
well no because really it should be priced at what it's traded, and it's only been traded once in months, and it was traded for 18t..

[Roboevil]

Maybe some noob was running around going "buyin white smoke 14T PRESS 44441!!1!!!!! FLOODDDZzZzZ" and a RVR saw it and thought, "ya okay they are now 14" =].

[pleke124]

Havent you heard? Habbox fix values, duh.

[Homosexual]

Haven't you heard? You'll get banned!

[lSander]

Rvr department has gone down since i left :D

[fitcovboy]

Well sometimes mistakes are made, i sorted out many supers values before and during my time as staff at habbox, and can still PM Sierk with any values i feel to be wrong as he requested me to, however i simply cannot be bothered, i do not see why i should put myself out, not after the way in which i was treated. I will focus my input into an alternative site. But lets not go into that. Also i know for a fact that Nick- paid more than 14T for his white smoke, because he bought it from me a long time ago, and the one i recently advertised was for Dan (Boxiel) as he requested me to trade it on his behalf whilst he was working.


Really? I didnt pick up on a single bit of sarcasm there.

Looking at the "report rare values" forum, NO-ONE has reported it

so that makes -undertaker, putting the values at his own cost,

GOOD JOB /sarcasm

I would not exactly say that although when thrones were being traded for 30HC over the 2 week period at which they were on habbox at 31 hc's and the head rare values reporters were doing their job and PMing the value as 30 hc -:Undertaker:- admits he logged into habbo and seen 2 traded for 31 hc's each, that was the justification for ignoring every single report sent and all the trading posts in which they were being bought and sold for 30 HC, my advice is listen to the staff and if you think you know better take a look around the forum ect, in general things tick over ok, it is only with one or two things, but remember -:Undertaker:- is fairly new to a managerial position, he was not assistant for very long before his promotion, and even then Mit was largely absent so it was all down to him to update the values single handedly, and we all make mistakes, he works hard and with time i am sure he will get it bang on.


I can see why pitch & fitcovboy quit... The values are sucks. J1MI is the only one who ever does his job right any more, (sorry to you knew guys)

Btw this ISNT related to fitcovboy's thread about rare values.

Yes i left for reasons i previously stated, as is well known and openly admitted by Sierk, i could run a RVR department on my own without the need for reporters, but i have to disagree with you Dan (Boxiel), most of the reporters do a great job, they have no access to update any values, the management get PM's from the head rare values reporters with values, if they feel them to be correct they then update them, unless they know better.


Sure it isnt ;P

Yer im outraged too but unfortunately i have to keep it bottled or vent it somewhere else other than here, if i say exactly what i wanted to about the value i might end up losing my job ;)

Yes i would like to say your staff position would not be affected for having your opinion, however i am proof that this is not the case, long live free speech huh, maybe if the management listened to staff in the first place and resolved the problems, they would not need to be aired publicly!


Will be looked into.

This should prove interesting! I was sacked from the jobs i did not resign from for my opinion.


Habbox is "only a guide" anyway so why do people go mad about it? It might be wrong but people shouldnt follow it like its some kind of bible...

Although it is a guide, it should be fairly correct, a lot of habbo's will never own a throne, never mind when something is traded for 18T and the price is put at 14T, i will ask Dan (Boxiel) when he returns home from work or via text who actually witnessed the trade.


Maybe some noob was running around going "buyin white smoke 14T PRESS 44441!!1!!!!! FLOODDDZzZzZ" and a RVR saw it and thought, "ya okay they are now 14" =].

The RVR's are supposed to only comment on trades they witness TAKE PLACE, or else anyone could play any value.


Havent you heard? Habbox fix values, duh.

Yes that is a wild rumour that floats around, normally because someone has items they wish were worth more, or the fact that they purchased something prior to it dropping and get sore over it, or because they get lucky and find someone who wants an item desperately and get a high amount for it, in general the values are fine, the odd one or two could maybe be reconsidered.


Haven't you heard? You'll get banned!

What for having an opinion? I doubt it huh!


Rvr department has gone down since i left :D

Lmao.

[Rcss]

I get what every1 is saying but i havnt seen any white smokes traded so i cant really comment
Many people are saying they dont agree with the values blah blah
Well dont use them most of the team try v hard to get the latest values in if they change
For example today ive had 3 strobes and sold all of them on at way higher than habbox price if you can trade for your own prices do that :S

[benjamin]

I get what every1 is saying but i havnt seen any white smokes traded so i cant really comment
Many people are saying they dont agree with the values blah blah
Well dont use them most of the team try v hard to get the latest values in if they change
For example today ive had 3 strobes and sold all of them on at way higher than habbox price if you can trade for your own prices do that :S
it's all well and good if you don't use them, but the majority of the god damn hotel does.

[Rcss]

Well i do use them but not all the time

[benjamin]

Well i do use them but not all the time
If you're in a trade room and try selling somthing even SLIGHTLY above habbox's prices you get screamed at and called a noob - sometimes even kicked.

[Rcss]

I usually dont usually sell furni that i can get more for to shouting nubs

[J1MI]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, having spoken to the owner of the only white smoke thats been traded recently we have worked on a more accurate value for this item. Please remember these values are only guides.
Thank you.

[Hopeless]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, having spoken to the owner of the only white smoke thats been traded recently we have worked on a more accurate value for this item. Please remember these values are only guides.
Thank you.


Well said J1MI, Guides. Guides. Guides.

[fitcovboy]

Very diplomatically put, however the credit lies with 8Freak8 and Sierk, as per the post in 'ask the rare values reporters' 8Freak8 did say he would contact Dan (-:Undertaker:-) for a reason as to why the value was changed, and also contact Sierk, as to which he did, Sierk then contacted a few select people via PM to ask for their opinions on the matter, myself included, i provided feedback and a more appropriate value as i am sure all the people he choose to contact did, the value was then updated accordingly. I feel the new value is a more appropriate guide value, given that there are so few of them, it is a hard value to keep accurate track of, as they are not traded very often. I hope this brings the matter to a satisfactory conclusion for everyone directly involved.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Why has hx put White smoke to 14 T?


There is only 2 on the hotel

nick still has his

and i certainally didnt buy for 14 T

so how can it be at 14 T?

CHANGE IT


People can sell their White Smokes for however much they like, a number on a GUIDE site isn't going to change that.

[benjamin]

People can sell their White Smokes for however much they like, a number on a GUIDE site isn't going to change that.
your values are based on what's being traded though, right? and well it wasn't traded at 14t?

[-:Undertaker:-]

your values are based on what's being traded though, right? and well it wasn't traded at 14t?

Ive had a HRVR report it as 13T or 14T to me and I also asked the owner of a White Smoke say it was around that price aswell.

Big supers like this range in values all the time EG: The Purple Dragon when it was ranging from 35T - 70T

[benjamin]

Ive had a HRVR report it as 13T or 14T to me and I also asked the owner of a White Smoke say it was around that price aswell.

Big supers like this range in values all the time EG: The Purple Dragon when it was ranging from 35T - 70T
but it was traded at 18t. you've always said you base your values on trades that are actually happening, and well someone 'reported it' being 13/14t, where the hell did they get it from? they asked a previous owner? what of what he thought it should be?

[-:Undertaker:-]

As I said it was reported to me at 13T/14T and I also checked with the previous owner.

[fitcovboy]

People can sell their White Smokes for however much they like, a number on a GUIDE site isn't going to change that.


As many members use habbox values for guides, they expect them to be around the rough trading price, most people expect them to be what they are 'guide prices' and yes i am afraid it does affect what people are willing to pay for items, as you should be well aware of being the RVR manager. Habbox is mainly famous for it's values, that is what a lot of visitor's come for, they should be given high maintenance as well you should already know. It cannot be justified on a single trade to dramatically drop the value, or else if when i had the white smoke, had i wanted to quit or got stuck and desperate and sold it for 1T that would be the value? No! As you know, many factors can contribute to such supers, i have traded in just about every super duper rare, hence i kind of know what i am talking about, hence why i was asked for my opinion of what the guide value for it should now be. I also know where it will go ;)

[-:Undertaker:-]

As many members use habbox values for guides, they expect them to be around the rough trading price, most people expect them to be what they are 'guide prices' and yes i am afraid it does affect what people are willing to pay for items, as you should be well aware of being the RVR manager. Habbox is mainly famous for it's values, that is what a lot of visitor's come for, they should be given high maintenance as well you should already know. It cannot be justified on a single trade to dramatically drop the value, or else if when i had the white smoke, had i wanted to quit or got stuck and desperate and sold it for 1T that would be the value? No! As you know, many factors can contribute to such supers, i have traded in just about every super duper rare, hence i kind of know what i am talking about, hence why i was asked for my opinion of what the guide value for it should now be. I also know where it will go ;)


There are about 2 White Smokes in circulation, so it is very rare for them both to be traded around the same time.

[fitcovboy]

There are about 2 White Smokes in circulation, so it is very rare for them both to be traded around the same time.


Who said anything about them both being traded? I know that Nick- still has the one i sold him, i know who sold Boxiel his and for what, i also know that throughout the threads this amount varies, if you look in the thread regarding habbox values he says he sold it for 17T, but despite what it was traded for there were circumstances behind this, the main reason for the drop in price was the speculation going around, that because the red smoke came out, so would the white one, anyway as stated i believe it is now a more justified guide price at this current moment in time, i will if motivated to do so, send Sierk values as and when, unless he specifically for some as he did today. I think this debate has run its course, the problem was presented and has been dealt with.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Who said anything about them both being traded? I know that Nick- still has the one i sold him, i know who sold Boxiel his and for what, i also know that throughout the threads this amount varies, if you look in the thread regarding habbox values he says he sold it for 17T, but despite what it was traded for there were circumstances behind this, the main reason for the drop in price was the speculation going around, that because the red smoke came out, so would the white one, anyway as stated i believe it is now a more justified guide price at this current moment in time, i will if motivated to do so, send Sierk values as and when, unless he specifically for some as he did today. I think this debate has run its course, the problem was presented and has been dealt with.


No, i'm just saying it's hard to get a value for a item that is hardly ever sold and as I said I updated the price to what I was told by a HRVR and by the owner of that rare.

If there are only 2 of one rare on a Hotel then 1 being sold will effect the price.

[fitcovboy]

No, i'm just saying it's hard to get a value for a item that is hardly ever sold and as I said I updated the price to what I was told by a HRVR and by the owner of that rare.

If there are only 2 of one rare on a Hotel then 1 being sold will effect the price.


To some degree yes, but when a rare is sold very under priced, there is usually a story behind it, as there is with this, i am not going to say what it is, but suffice to say there is a story, if you noticed i have already stated it is hard to get a value, i have also stated you are new to management and defended you, there are a few hard to maintain values, i dealt in most of them hence why Sierk came to me for the values, i changed many of the supers both before and during my time with the RVR department, as much of the time people come to me on habbo with supers, because they knew i traded in a lot of the expensive supers, which is why i ended up with a white marquee, pink mono and sky dragon lamp lol.

[Pitch]

I get what every1 is saying but i havnt seen any white smokes traded so i cant really comment
Many people are saying they dont agree with the values blah blah
Well dont use them most of the team try v hard to get the latest values in if they change
For example today ive had 3 strobes and sold all of them on at way higher than habbox price if you can trade for your own prices do that :S
When has not seeing any ever stopped you from posting/commenting in the past? *waits for infraction*


your values are based on what's being traded though, right? and well it wasn't traded at 14t?
It was traded at 14t, i traded it.


No, i'm just saying it's hard to get a value for a item that is hardly ever sold and as I said I updated the price to what I was told by a HRVR and by the owner of that rare.

If there are only 2 of one rare on a Hotel then 1 being sold will effect the price.
Soz dan bbz i should've told everyone how much i bought it for :'(
Also, i am really worried about this, so many of you are bothered about the value of pixels? Big red x solves any problems you have with the values, and the fact that people use habbox for supers, no offense but i, and the majority of people i know dont even dream of using habbox for supers. Normal rares, yes, they are very accurate, but there arent enough reporters specialising in supers for the values to be a true representation - HOWEVER it is i just a guide so you cant really argue about it.

Edit, ross just because you have the same writing and similar type of attitude towards orange doesnt mean you'll be the next rare values manager :rolleyes:

[fitcovboy]

When has not seeing any ever stopped you from posting/commenting in the past? *waits for infraction*


It was traded at 14t, i traded it.


Soz dan bbz i should've told everyone how much i bought it for :'(
Also, i am really worried about this, so many of you are bothered about the value of pixels? Big red x solves any problems you have with the values, and the fact that people use habbox for supers, no offense but i, and the majority of people i know dont even dream of using habbox for supers. Normal rares, yes, they are very accurate, but there arent enough reporters specialising in supers for the values to be a true representation - HOWEVER it is i just a guide so you cant really argue about it.

Edit, ross just because you have the same writing and similar type of attitude towards orange doesnt mean you'll be the next rare values manager :rolleyes:


You didn't buy it, it was taken as a bet, as to which they claim to have won and allegedly you ran, either way if you ran or won, it owed you nothing, you did not require to keep and can afford to trade it low, also in the other thread and i quote:


looooooooool john woopsy daisy!! Anywho, it was 17t not 18!

So i guess it is your word against Boxiels huh?

As previously stated the value has been adjusted based on everything taken into account. Regardless of whether you sold it for 18T, 17T, 14T or gave it away.

[Rcss]

Pitch we had the arguement ages ago and you can believe what you want you said you had proof of me making them up then when you show the proof of other rvr's you really didnt make sene
I no i my values are real and thatz all i need to no
And pitch just because your super rich doesnt mean you no everything about super rares i have seen dinos struggle to sell for 3t 20 over the past few days
*Removed*

:0 ow yea i choose the orange when dan have taken it off but nxt time all copy yours

P.s 2 of the strobe trades today were with fellow Rvrs so ... ill get them to back me up if you want to go further

Somene should really close this thread

Please do not accuse others of scamming, if they do, report them to both Habbo UK and Habbox forum Management - smiddy1234 (Admin)

[-Dispute]

I can see why pitch & fitcovboy quit... The values are sucks. J1MI is the only one who ever does his job right any more, (sorry to you knew guys)

Btw this ISNT related to fitcovboy's thread about rare values.


*Coughs*

[Boxiel]

*Coughs*

And Adam, soz babe, i didnt realise you were still staff ;) Silver name aye?

Edit : The value has been chaged, Thread closed.