Can I take legal action on....

[Moh]

Well, I bought a domain from NS-Hosting, I have had it for about 2-3 Months, and then shut down (I Paied Yearly) Not only they took my hosting away, they took my domain. I paied them more than its worth for the domain, www.crazyhabbo.net (http://www.crazyhabbo.net) and they wont give me it or change name servers. I have bought a bloody forum domain www.crazyhabboforum.net (http://www.crazyhabboforum.net) and Other things are licenced to that domain. When I talk to them on MSN about it, they ignore me. Can I take legal action and Sue them as they ripped me off when I paied for 1 year, not 2-3 Months. This makes me feel depresed, and un trustworthy of any host again :(

Edited by Mattps22004 (Forum Moderator): Thread closed to stop the pointless posts.

[TheLastShadow]

Do u have like receipts or anything like that? Cause without it you wont win..

[YouFail]

Yes you can take legal action. You could take them to the small court of claims. (Thats the name I think). Thing is, can you affordthelegal costs?

[Moh]

Do u have like receipts or anything like that? Cause without it you wont win..
I have Invoices etc... with user and passwords, payment details, that should do :p

[redtom]

You would either lose or will get no money when you - the fees

[TheLastShadow]

Also think, is it going to cost me more to take them to court? and if it doesnt, think about how much profit you will make or whatever you call it. Like is it actually worth profit?

[letisix]

Yep, You can Take Legal Action since you got those ;]

[Moh]

But isnt it scamming?
Taking money and then not giving the goods, or stealing the goods afterwards...

[roflZAC]

No points tbh youl loose

[dirrty]

how much did you pay?

[roflZAC]

Ill ask him on msn

[Luckyrare]

No point to be honest. You shouldn't have to pay legal fees because there is legal aid for things like this. No point

[Moh]

All I want is our domain back, we got pritty popular, we bought:
Vbulletin
CuteNews Licence (Friend did that, I hope)
Forum Domain
Radio Jingles
Layouts
Scripts

I have spent alot of money on it, and then they just bloody take it away from me. But iv contacted Name Cheap, and keep on contacting till they make him Transfere.

[JoeComins]

Profit: £5 domain name
Loss: £500 + in Legal Fees.

Some legal representatives charge £120 for a single letter or invoice.

You need a life

Did you just organise it over MSN? Pay by PayPal, and not from a real company?
There is no case. Get a life

[PenguinFluid]

did u lose the vb etc aswell?

[Luckyrare]

Profit: £5 domain name
Loss: £500 + in Legal Fees.

Some legal representatives charge £120 for a single letter or invoice.

You need a life

Did you just organise it over MSN? Pay by PayPal, and not from a real company?
There is no case. Get a life

It would cost more than £500. It costs around £2000 to hire a solicitor for the day (even if the case is only 30 minutes, you pay for the day usually).

[dirrty]

well next time, go through a proper company, not no 15 yr old boy

[Moh]

I havent lost forum no, But whats the point in having a Forum with no site? Its not the point I lost my domain, its the point they have ******* scammed about 60 people!

[dirrty]

sell your forum then.

[ScottDiamond]

Have you got any backups?

[QueenHex]

Find the boys house and make him pay? Beat him up etc.

[Cixso]

Profit: £5 domain name
Loss: £500 + in Legal Fees.

Some legal representatives charge £120 for a single letter or invoice.

You need a life

Did you just organise it over MSN? Pay by PayPal, and not from a real company?
There is no case. Get a life

How old are you? 4.. come on, 'get a life'

At least grow up and act mature...

[JoeComins]

How old are you? 4.. come on, 'get a life'

At least grow up and act mature...
LuckyRare: £500 +, meaning MORE THAN. You can get crap representatives, or if you woudl choose to represent yourself, alot less.

Blad3r: I'm the immature one? Im not trying to sue someone for a £5 domain. I would be the one earning around £40 a hour in my spare time. And I'm immature? You called me 4, and then critised me?

[Moh]

Well sorry I want my domain Back what I BOUGHT!
So **** off if ur not gona help

[DannyyTBH.]

just take legal action but not Sam Baties

[timROGERS]

Who is the domain registered to in the WHOIS? You could sue them, and if you won they would have to pay all your legal fees.

[Cixso]

LuckyRare: £500 +, meaning MORE THAN. You can get crap representatives, or if you woudl choose to represent yourself, alot less.

Blad3r: I'm the immature one? Im not trying to sue someone for a £5 domain. I would be the one earning around £40 a hour in my spare time. And I'm immature? You called me 4, and then critised me?

Yes you are.

You said to him get a life... what, you think hes dead?

Time to grow up, stop with them stupid comments, it died ages ago with the 'mam' jokes... I wouldnt of called you 4 if you were not acting like one 'you need a life' seriously... so childish

P.S How is trying to sue somebody because they 'robbed' you out of a domain childish? Its his domain they owe him. If he wants to pay the legal fees, let him, no need for them childish comments was there..

[Infrontation]

Who is the domain registered to in the WHOIS? You could sue them, and if you won they would have to pay all your legal fees.

Agreed. Also there is no reason why they should simply get away with it. Hmm, well paypal was used there is a scheme but I believe you have to make the claim in the first 45 days of the purchase. However you could always try that. You can make claims if you made the payments for items. If you provide proof etc. in a claim and tell paypal what happened they may refund you in some way. They'll basically just steal the money from them if they are found to be in the wrong.
I've done it one or two times to poor companies that didn't provide the service right and have got my money back 3/3 times.

[F32]

Yes you are.

You said to him get a life... what, you think hes dead?

Time to grow up, stop with them stupid comments, it died ages ago with the 'mam' jokes... I wouldnt of called you 4 if you were not acting like one 'you need a life' seriously... so childish

P.S How is trying to sue somebody because they 'robbed' you out of a domain childish? Its his domain they owe him. If he wants to pay the legal fees, let him, no need for them childish comments was there..
In all honesty, you also told Joe to 'get a life'.

And Joe is correct, sueing over £5?

[alexxxxx]

You won't lose, but it wouldn't be worth it.

[JoeComins]

Well Danny Johnson, my "childish" comments are part of my Human Rights, and fi you dont like them, I frankly couldnt care less.
However unsuccessful as my site is at the moment, I have alot of projects lined up, and last month averaged £37 per hour, working about 3-4 hours per week.

Now, when you get that for doing pretty much nothing in your spare time, you can critise me.

A domain, with no official paper-work, purchased by teenager who purcahsed from a company, and you think you would waste time and money going to court over a domain?

Its like:

OMGZ - Dat guy as tooken ma domain, m8. Howz about we takes this to court, innit

I mean, get the **** over it. A domain is around £5 to £10. Buy another. Cut your losses.

[TheLastShadow]

Find the boys house and make him pay? Beat him up etc.
So he can have a case against you for assault?

[Cixso]

Well Danny Johnson, my "childish" comments are part of my Human Rights, and fi you dont like them, I frankly couldnt care less.
However unsuccessful as my site is at the moment, I have alot of projects lined up, and last month averaged £37 per hour, working about 3-4 hours per week.

Now, when you get that for doing pretty much nothing in your spare time, you can critise me.

A domain, with no official paper-work, purchased by teenager who purcahsed from a company, and you think you would waste time and money going to court over a domain?

Its like:

OMGZ - Dat guy as tooken ma domain, m8. Howz about we takes this to court, innit

I mean, get the **** over it. A domain is around £5 to £10. Buy another. Cut your losses.

Why are you going on about your personal life and earnings? wth!!!

P.s i didnt tell him to get a life, NOTICE the '' Im HIGHLIGHTING what hes saying. I am not calling him... I.E when your talking in sarcasm, you told him to get a life 'get a life'


EDIT: Danny John Johnson* How kind of you to say my name :D
And, you do care joe, your trying to prove your point that you dont care, if you didnt care, why reply stating it?

[JoeComins]

What the hell? Can you type a little more clearly, and make sence?!

I think its ridiculous that he thinks he's going to court over a £5 domain. I got £395 scammed off me on eBay, and I got that back within one and a half months. If you have a real claim, go ahead, but a domain for gods sake?

And seen as your accusations, Blad3r, meant basically that you thought I was a noob, I decided to look at your design site. I found your name, and thats about it.

And seen as you were called me immature, and basically a noob, I deicded to prove that I am not, you ******* idiot.

What was your point in the first place? Because I told him to get a life, and not incourage him to think he will go to court over a £5 domain?

And "Get a life" being soo long ago, yet your name is Blad3r - l33t. And Im the sad, immature one?

[BILLY]

Why are you going on about your personal life and earnings? wth!!!

P.s i didnt tell him to get a life, NOTICE the '' Im HIGHLIGHTING what hes saying. I am not calling him... I.E when your talking in sarcasm, you told him to get a life 'get a life'


EDIT: Danny John Johnson* How kind of you to say my name :D
And, you do care joe, your trying to prove your point that you dont care, if you didnt care, why reply stating it?

Lmao Good point!

[:alexxTURNER]

Joe has a point, whats the point of
sueing somebody over a £5 domain,
get another one. Hosting is easy
enough to get around here as well.
Blader, your just talking a load of ** to be
quite honest.

[JoeComins]

No. Its not a good point. (BILLY)

He's talking absolute ********.

Basically, calling me a noob. His exact words were: Atleast grow up and act mature.

[BILLY]

Joe has a point, whats the point of
sueing somebody over a £5 domain,
get another one. Hosting is easy
enough to get around here as well.
Blader, your just talking a load of ** to be
quite honest.

Dont forget the whats it about 10 pound hosting?
i've seen people lose hundreds of pounds and not cry about it as much as you.

[:alexxTURNER]

Dont forget the whats it about 10 pound hosting?
i've seen people lose hundreds of pounds and not cry about it as much as you.

Yes, because i'm crying aren't I?
I'm not the one moaning because i've lost some
£5 domain or moaning because somebody told
somebody else to "get a life"

[R]

How do you know he has no paperwork? I have paperwork for my domain..

[Infrontation]

No. Its not a good point. (BILLY)

He's talking absolute ********.

Basically, calling me a noob. His exact words were: Atleast grow up and act mature.

No he was just telling you that you should act more mature. Which doesn't relate to being called a noob. Also the fact that you brag how you earned £37 an hour on average for no apparant reason apart from the fact that it was some sort of status symbol about who is more succesful when in fact it was just a simple arguement/discussion and you bring it your live savings?

Anyway my view on this is that its the principal that his service was not fulfilled. The cost of the item is not the important thing. However it definately would be far to much to go to court over to be honest or anything as severe as that.


/waits to be flamed.

[R]

No he was just telling you that you should act more mature. Which doesn't relate to being called a noob. Also the fact that you brag how you earned £37 an hour on average for no apparant reason apart from the fact that it was some sort of status symbol about who is more succesful when in fact it was just a simple arguement/discussion and you bring it your live savings?

Anyway my view on this is that its the principal that his service was not fulfilled. The cost of the item is not the important thing. However it definately would be far to much to go to court over to be honest or anything as severe as that.


/waits to be flamed.
Why are you waiting to be flamed thats probably the most surreal point in this thread ;S

[Infrontation]

Because everytime anyone does anything to somewhat disagree with someone with the status of Joe on this forum its some sort of auto-flame process. Where everyone who likes Joe automatically disagree's with me.

Anyway thanks for agreeing with my point.

[Moh]

When I Say Legal Action, why do you all persume Courts etc..., theres sumin on the interent, Nothing to do with Courts (Law ones) Theres sum site where they deal with Scamming etc...
As if im gona Ring up the soliciters, god you lot emagen soo much stuff.
Also, CrazyHabbo is my Best Site iv ever had, i.e.
The Staff Profile System, came from there, Housekeeping Update, For some reason called: CrazyHabbo Housekeeping, Ill lose all that :(

[Fart]

Recommened not to go to Court! can end up in time fees! Just see if you can come to a agreement with owner if nothing changes then take it to court but its a 50/50 Chance of you winning!. If you bought the domain and it stated on the site at the time that it was closing at a sertin date then you will have no chance! but goodluck withit

[Moh]

Well no 1 will help me get in contact with the Owner :@
I have Will, He ignores me, I have tried adding Sam Bates millions of times, but dosnt accept me. Its realy iritating when every things licenced to the domain www.crazyhabbo.net (http://www.crazyhabbo.net)

[Cixso]

Aww come on, your trying to get back at me with the 'Your habbox user is leet'.. Childish childish childish...


fi
Please dont comment on how I type, plus, please provide proof i called you a noob. But, i can honestly say, you are acting like one. Now get your finger out your mouth, Let me make sense,


GROW UP.


Ok enough with that, I think you should get something done about it, not the fact it was only £5 or so, the matter of the hard effort, the money put in for the vb,layouts ect...

Wouldnt go that far to court.. But do what you said, with the site that can help out.

[Infrontation]

Aww come on, your trying to get back at me with the 'Your habbox user is leet'.. Childish childish childish...


Please dont comment on how I type, plus, please provide proof i called you a noob. But, i can honestly say, you are acting like one. Now get your finger out your mouth, Let me make sense,


GROW UP.


Ok enough with that, I think you should get something done about it, not the fact it was only £5 or so, the matter of the hard effort, the money put in for the vb,layouts ect...

Wouldnt go that far to court.. But do what you said, with the site that can help out.

/agree

[BILLY]

When I Say Legal Action, why do you all persume Courts etc..., theres sumin on the interent, Nothing to do with Courts (Law ones) Theres sum site where they deal with Scamming etc...
As if im gona Ring up the soliciters, god you lot emagen soo much stuff.
Also, CrazyHabbo is my Best Site iv ever had, i.e.
The Staff Profile System, came from there, Housekeeping Update, For some reason called: CrazyHabbo Housekeeping, Ill lose all that :(

It might of taken you ages but it's a chance to build a new one and make it better, for cheaper then court fees.

[beer]

Sorry if its been said b4, havnt read the whole thread. Y dont u just open a claim with paypal and see if you can get your money back? Shouldnt be that hard. Also whats the addy? If its (first name here, not mentioning 4 obvious reasons)_cee_2006 hes a scamma. He deleted the whole public_html directory on my old site, clubbing habbos.

[BILLY]

No. Its not a good point. (BILLY)

He's talking absolute ********.

Basically, calling me a noob. His exact words were: Atleast grow up and act mature.

-Rep :l

[JoeComins]

Act mature, and grow up, surgesting I am childish and immature.
Yet this guy wants to sue for a £5 domain?

I wasnt the one picking fights. I just said its pathetic that he thinks he's going to court over a £5 domain, and that he should get a life.

You, then, started trying to cause an arguement, when you are just being hyprocritcal

My earning do show something. If I was immature and childish, I wouldnt have that many contacts, and a good relationship with my customers.

[BILLY]

How do you know he has no paperwork? I have paperwork for my domain..

Did i say he didn't :S

[BILLY]

Act mature, and grow up, surgesting I am childish and immature.
Yet this guy wants to sue for a £5 domain?

I wasnt the one picking fights. I just said its pathetic that he thinks he's going to court over a £5 domain, and that he should get a life.

You, then, started trying to cause an arguement, when you are just being hyprocritcal

My earning do show something. If I was immature and childish, I wouldnt have that many contacts, and a good relationship with my customers.

Lmao.
I am acting immature, sure.
OK.
:S

[Jõnathan]

This thread's turned into a stupid argument...
If the domain was taken off you without your permission, you have a right to SOME compensation (or something like that, that's what them lawyers on TV say).
Basically, taking them to court is not a smart idea...
EDIT: 1700th Post

[Jackbee]

If you got a full backup you wouldn't have to worry about most of it

[Luckyrare]

You could try trading standards. Or you could go to his house and make threats. I hope you learnt a lesson not to go with people to host you rather than companies.

[Infrontation]

Act mature, and grow up, surgesting I am childish and immature.
Yet this guy wants to sue for a £5 domain?

I wasnt the one picking fights. I just said its pathetic that he thinks he's going to court over a £5 domain, and that he should get a life.

You, then, started trying to cause an arguement, when you are just being hyprocritcal

My earning do show something. If I was immature and childish, I wouldnt have that many contacts, and a good relationship with my customers.

So telling someone to get a life isn't picking a fight:eusa_thin
Thanks for the -rep Joe, I'll give you some +rep <3

[Bielby2ooo]

Represent yourself in court :]

[JoeComins]

No probs.

I said the thread starter should get a life, and stop pretending like he's going to sue over a &#163;5 domain, and the inconvieniance of changing the name of the site in his files.

In the time to post that, he could have renamed the files.

You shoudlnt host with people, you should host with companies, andread their T&C. Im sure, if you read it, they would have said that they could close them at any time, with no refund given (if the had half a brain)

How is that picking a fight? And I'vew forgot who was argueing against me.

[ScottDiamond]

Or you could go to his house and make threats.

Making threats would put YOU into the court and not him? What would be the point? And this Blad3r and his little bum chum with BILLY who think's he can make a portfolio with the crapest layout i've seen in my life, why are you even TRYING to back this stupid guy up who wants to sue a company over a £5 domain?

Also at LuckyRare: My aunt works with trading standards and they have nothing to do with the internet. Good suggestion but you would go to the Scotland Yard. +Rep anyway Lucky ;p

[BILLY]

Making threats would put YOU into the court and not him? What would be the point? And this Blad3r and his little bum chum with BILLY who think's he can make a portfolio with the crapest layout i've seen in my life, why are you even TRYING to back this stupid guy up who wants to sue a company over a £5 domain?

Also at LuckyRare: My aunt works with trading standards and they have nothing to do with the internet. Good suggestion but you would go to the Scotland Yard. +Rep anyway Lucky ;p

"bum chum"
:S
I don't even know the kid.

[ScottDiamond]

Then why are you sucking so badly up to him? Before you respond, I'm not sucking up to JoeCommins. Sharing the same opinion with someone is not sucking up, but you are.

[Cixso]

I wasnt the one picking fights. I just said its pathetic that he thinks he's going to court over a £5 domain, and that he should get a life.

What is wrong with you? telling somebody to get a life sint asking for trouble? seriously.. something is wrong with you..


And this Blad3r and his little bum chum with BILLY who think's he can make a portfolio with the crapest layout i've seen in my life, why are you even TRYING to back this stupid guy up who wants to sue a company over a £5 domain?

:eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_wall Bum chum? dont you start with these silly comments too... 'get a life' not 'bum chum' whats nexT? 'i *****ed your mam' How can you try to back somebody up? you either are or you arnt... Yes you can make a portfolio with a crappy layout.. I dont think BILLY even cares what you think about the layout? its a portfolio..


Then why are you sucking so badly up to him? Before you respond, I'm not sucking up to JoeCommins. Sharing the same opinion with someone is not sucking up, but you are.

Oh yes, lets all suck on habbox forum!!! Like to re-phrase that please? If what you say is sucking up, your obv. sucking up to joe...

- rep for being stupid sayings

[Not sure who ever was calling who a kid, but im not a kid if it was to me..]

[JoeComins]

1. Shut the hell up. Homophobic comments is the one thing I will not tolerate.
2. "Get a life"? That was going to cause an arguement? Its you who started this arguement, picking that out and calling me immature.

Im not going to carry on with this thread. Im currently argueing about Gay Rights and Human Rights on Comment is Free from The Guardian

[Cixso]

1. Shut the hell up. Homophobic comments is the one thing I will not tolerate.
2. "Get a life"? That was going to cause an arguement? Its you who started this arguement, picking that out and calling me immature.

Im not going to carry on with this thread. Im currently argueing about Gay Rights and Human Rights on Comment is Free from The Guardian

yes you did start it... and i continued it / backing somebody up because you get poeple who think there so good because there well respected on a habbo forum..

Your a perfect example. You did start the argument, by calling him to get a life, THATS HOW IT STARTED, YOUR THE CAUSE. Of course, I didnt let you get away with it. :D A simple sorry will do to the thread owner and me I will say sorry to you too :0 If not? then go and be a child and imature!

Heres mine.

I am sorry for calling you imature, childish ect... But ill take it back if you dont say sorry back to me and the thread owner for telling him to get a life

[Leum]

Have a look in their terms and conditions and ensure that they don't already have a policy regarding this issue; i.e. "..We reserve the right to terminate hosting and domains without prior consent from the owner, we may or may not give a refund or credit note.." or something along the lines of. If they do have a policy then there isn't much you can do.
If they don't have a policy then ensure that you have proof of purchase; this could be an email from the business. With this email you can sue them under the trade descriptions act 1994.

[BILLY]

Then why are you sucking so badly up to him? Before you respond, I'm not sucking up to JoeCommins. Sharing the same opinion with someone is not sucking up, but you are.

If thats sharing the same opinion then so was i.

[Lycan]

i come of the forum for what a week and your all fighting

bad danny

bad tom.



- you should of had a contract with them saying it was yours for 12 months. did you have acess to it or did they buy it off namecheap and give you partional control, if it was partional control then there probebly isn't anyting to do with it.

the big thing is that uk laws cannot protect you if you buy from an overseas seller including online, your have to check international law

as for the people who keep quoting the trade descriptions etc.. they won't work if the 'company' that he bought for wasn't registered. ..

the biggest thing to do is just to acept the loss and watch sites where the domains you owned could be sold and post there to get there attension


.

[Infrontation]

1. Shut the hell up. Homophobic comments is the one thing I will not tolerate.
2. "Get a life"? That was going to cause an arguement? Its you who started this arguement, picking that out and calling me immature.

Im not going to carry on with this thread. Im currently argueing about Gay Rights and Human Rights on Comment is Free from The Guardian
So.. It's your right to tell people what to say?

[JoeComins]

Yes, when it's discrediting homophobic comments.

If someone is being homophobic and racist, you don't just let them, do you? Or are you that sort of person, who doesnt care for anyone else.

[letisix]

Joe that's going a bit of Topic

[Cixso]

Yes, when it's discrediting homophobic comments.

If someone is being homophobic and racist, you don't just let them, do you? Or are you that sort of person, who doesnt care for anyone else.
You obv dont care about anybody else...

Say sorry to the thread owner for saying get a life, lets see if you do care about other poeple aye?

If somebody is telling others to get a life for no apparent reason you just dont let them get away with it?

DO YOU?

[JoeComins]

1. I dont care about people on this forum, no.
2. I dont care about people on this forum, and especailly not someone who wants to take someone to claim against someone as they ending a domain contract.
3. I dont, but then I'm not complaining over &#163;5 and the convienceiance of changing names, and threatening to take legal action.

I dont care about people?
Thats why I've been debating for months on the Comment Is Free section of the guardian on Human Rights, Religion, Gay Marriage, down to Saddam's trial, and how I think it was unjust, again, back to the humna rights.
Thats also why I've been debating with Organ Donors, and people who need organs within the next 11 months, against people who say its a bad idea.
And when I turn 18, as my mother isnt confortbale with it, and I would need her agreement, I am going to get a donor card to be a registered organ donor

And I dont care about people?