Lingo/C++/Flash Coder Wanted and Pixel Artist

[Constant]

Hey there folks!

I am the owner of a new mmocc called Suerte Heights!

Your all know what a MMOCC is, its like habbo. Some of you may even be a member of Mmoccforum.com!

My MMOCC has got some art, and vb forums, with the website in development, and therefore we are starting to look, for someone to code our client. The client will need to be coded in lingo, c++ or flash :)

It would also be very much liked, if you can also code the server side of things.

We have a community already set up www.suerteheights.com/board (http://www.suerteheights.com/board) (Please note, works best with flatscreen monitors!)

We do have a limited budget, but that can be discussed more when we speak in private.

If you are a coder, and wish to take on a project like this, please PM myself so we can discuss this position more :)

I hope we find the right person for the job. Please get in contact with me as soon as you can, as we want to get the ball rolling ;)

Dont forget to sign up on our Community Boards (www.suerteheights.com/board (http://www.suerteheights.com/board))

Thank you!

Constant
Suerte Heights CEO/Owner
www.suerteheights.com (http://www.suerteheights.com)
Copyright Suerte Heights 2007


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Second Position - Pixel Artist

We are looking for a pixel artist. I know I said we have most of our art, because we do. We just need rooms and furniture sets doing now, and a few other bits and pieces.

We need a pixel artist, to work for us to create the art we need. This person needs to be skilled at pixel art, and have a certain level of quality.

If you are interested, in this Pay per piece position, please PM myself, with at least 1-2 examples of your best work.

Thank you,

Constant
Suerte Heights CEO/Owner
www.suerteheights.com (http://www.suerteheights.com)
Copyright Suerte Heights 2007

[F32]

Wrong section; and yey, another wannabe.

[Constant]

I could not find a section that it fitted. It has something to do with website designing, and goes under requests.

I anit a wannabe. People like echotown are wannabe's!

[F32]

You don't have a coder; you're a wannabe.

[Constant]

That is your opinion

Lets not turn this into a arguement.

My post is asking for a coder. Everyone has to get a coder some time. No coder does not make you a wanna be. Please get your facts right

Back to topic

[Invent]

What type of payment do you offer for the services, and how much payment?

[Constant]

We can pay via Paypal ;)

Please note, that for security our money is in our BANKS. It takes 9 days to transferr money from bank to any paypal. Therefore, if someone did work for us, they would have to wait a min. of 9 days to recieve any payment.

As for your second question, I wish to discuss that privatly with anyone that PM's myself.

We know we arnt going to get it for £100, we do know we need to pay a few hundred ;)

[F32]

Without a coder, you can't do anything really; you certainly cannot make a client.

So, you want to be a client, and you want to be an mmorpg, therefore you're a 'wannabe'.

[Kanker.]

if you even care to visit the forums to see previews and what not even being a membr of MMOCCFORUM will change your view alittle Mr. Sexy Hunk Adam

(Oh Yer Mr. Constant I'm Matt)

[Constant]

O.o Hey!

Matt here is our forum manager ;)

I reccomend you visit the forums people, lots of previews around and news about the mmocc ;)

Also its going to be a MMOCC (like habbo) not a MMORPG (like runescape)

[beer]

Hey, good luck. I wish i could code sounds like a good project. Hope its up soon. :].

[F32]

Is it pixel art?

If so, you're a wannabe.

Until you get it coded, you're a wannbe.

Pixel art doesn't automatically mean you're a mmorpg.

[Constant]

That is your thought Xeoro ;)

No Pm's yet... hope we get some soon :)

Also its a MMOCC, not a MMORPG

[Steven.]

So you think you're going to get an Advanced Coder on a teenage forum?

.... Have fun. :rolleyes:

[Kanker.]

i agree its wrong place to advertise. [:

[Constant]

I have tried a number of places to advetise.

You never know, there might be someone on this forum...

Doesnt hurt to advertise :)

[F32]

You're offering no pay whatsoever?

Boy are you going to get far.

[Constant]

Yes I am offering pay...

Please read my original thread

Ofcourse we are going to pay...

[?php?]

If you read what he said adam you Idiot, you would find out there willing to pay a couple of hundred, a wannabe? are you just trying to act cool adam because your just acting like a noob yourself, youre always acting like a noob on this forum thinking you know everything better than everyone else which you don't.

Be quiet, and stop trying to put people down all the time, And constant good luck with the project, i'm sure this will be a great game, if you put money time and effort into it, if you ever need any help, with maybe getting people to sign up or hosting or anything, or help with your forum or whatever don't hesitate to contact, me and i'll get you onto my msn, so i can help maybe when you need it.

[F32]

If you don't like my posts; there is an ignore feature.

I speak my mind; don't like it... go away.

[Unpredictible.]

I think people on here are going to be harsh on you, untill the actuall game is made.

But some people like me will encourage you, so good luck mate :)

[F32]

NLK, if we encouraged every 'kid' that came on here and wanted to make an MMOCC/MMORPG, we'd be forever encouraging.

What have they got at the moment?

A forum, wow.
Some pixel art, wow.
An idea, wow.

Habbo never had this; they employed coders, they had coders, they had pixel artists.

The first ever look at Habbo was when the beta version was released; AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY!

Kids cannot do this; it's impossible to create an mmocc/mmorpg when you're under the age of 18 and have no life and/or business experience.

Yes, ok; you may get a client working, but your promotions will fail because you no community managers with any experince nor marketing manager with no experience.

You'll end up with a client with 2 people on average per day; and what use is that? It's hardly worth the server space.

[?php?]

Yeh, but we don't encourage anybody? so whats the problem with that, this idea looks like it may work, so whats the problem in giving a bit of encouragement?

[F32]

Because it will fail because of reasons that I stated in my previous post.

It looks like it could work?

They have a forum and some pixel sofas...

[Unpredictible.]

I know what your saying Adam but we just have to wait untill they do everything and made the actuall game and if it fails then we can all laugh and tell them that 'we told you so' but if they succeed then they can laugh at us and we'll be the laughing stock.

[F32]

But they're asking for a coder without no initial pay, nor is pay 100% legit.

You'll be coding everything and they probably won't give you anything.

Coding is a job, much like being a police man; you get paid by the hour.

[Unpredictible.]

Im sure he said his going to pay in his orignal post

[F32]

-UNBAN NOW!;2928701']Im sure he said his going to pay in his orignal post

We do have a limited budget, but that can be discussed more when we speak in private.
In other words, £10 pocket money.

[Jamie.]

Hey there folks!

I am the owner of a new mmocc called Suerte Heights!

Your all know what a MMOCC is, its like habbo. Some of you may even be a member of Mmoccforum.com!

My MMOCC has got some art, and vb forums, with the website in development, and therefore we are starting to look, for someone to code our client. The client will need to be coded in lingo, c++ or flash :)

It would also be very much liked, if you can also code the server side of things.

We have a community already set up www.suerteheights.com/board (http://www.suerteheights.com/board) (Please note, works best with flatscreen monitors!)

We do have a limited budget, but that can be discussed more when we speak in private.

If you are a coder, and wish to take on a project like this, please PM myself so we can discuss this position more :)

I hope we find the right person for the job. Please get in contact with me as soon as you can, as we want to get the ball rolling ;)

Dont forget to sign up on our Community Boards (www.suerteheights.com/board (http://www.suerteheights.com/board))

Thank you!

Constant
Suerte Heights CEO/Owner
www.suerteheights.com (http://www.suerteheights.com)
Copyright Suerte Heights 2007


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Second Position - Pixel Artist

We are looking for a pixel artist. I know I said we have most of our art, because we do. We just need rooms and furniture sets doing now, and a few other bits and pieces.

We need a pixel artist, to work for us to create the art we need. This person needs to be skilled at pixel art, and have a certain level of quality.

If you are interested, in this Pay per piece position, please PM myself, with at least 1-2 examples of your best work.

Thank you,

Constant
Suerte Heights CEO/Owner
www.suerteheights.com (http://www.suerteheights.com)
Copyright Suerte Heights 2007

Good luck :) *thinks of 1000s that failed*

[?php?]

Although it may fail, and it probably will fail, you just have to give encouragement, everyone usually fails, so this one probably will, but it may work.

[F32]

I'm doing them a favour.

[Oni]

I am seriously interested in this, if what you say is true [money wise] then maybe it could work?. I will help with advertisments etc and i have a friend who can code clients in flash.

[Constant]

Let me just clear up the money issue;

We DO have money and more than just pocket money. There are two owns, myself and ryan and therefore, we can get more money on board.

We are also speaking to people about possible investments.

We dont plan on this to fail, and so far we are doing really well!

The only thing we are lacking on now, is members of the forums.

Once we get a strong community, we can develop it, and introduce more previews, more competitions and more features to the forums.

[Oni]

Let me just clear up the money issue;

We DO have money and more than just pocket money. There are two owns, myself and ryan and therefore, we can get more money on board.

We are also speaking to people about possible investments.

We dont plan on this to fail, and so far we are doing really well!

The only thing we are lacking on now, is members of the forums.

Once we get a strong community, we can develop it, and introduce more previews, more competitions and more features to the forums.
Do you have a sever though?

[Constant]

No, we dont YET.

We want a coder first, so we can discuss the needs etc etc

[redtom]

We can pay via Paypal ;)

Please note, that for security our money is in our BANKS. It takes 9 days to transferr money from bank to any paypal. Therefore, if someone did work for us, they would have to wait a min. of 9 days to recieve any payment.
As for your second question, I wish to discuss that privatly with anyone that PM's myself.

We know we arnt going to get it for £100, we do know we need to pay a few hundred ;)

No they would't you don't know how to use paypal, instead of doing a bank transfer do an instant transfer instead (not sure if thats its proper name though).

[QueenHex]

EVERYTHING that Xeoro has been saying is completely true. I just cringe when I read these sort of threads. I'm guessing you've got loads of money saved back to buy / rent a server and pay for it's monthly upkeep? (NB - The server will probably be more than £2.50 a month, even off your cool mates hosting "company")

It's very easy to draw a picture and hire MODs, assistant MODs, trainee MODs, pixel artists blah blah blah but at the end of the day the stuff that actually counts won't get done. Sorry.

[Constant]

That is your thoughts

You clearly just dont like MMOCC's and think you a better than everyone else

[QueenHex]

Everyone that is realistic that you will fail you simply go "well that's what you think"

YES WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE THINK.

Yes I must clearly hate MMOCC's, that's why I don't go near things like Habbo Hotel...

I don't think I'm better than everyone else I don't even know where that stupid comment is coming from. I'm simply being realistic about the situation. If MMOCC's were so easy to run there would be a whole lot more out there, but there isn't, which tells you something. Do you think Daisy took a £10 out of her purse and went "ere i'll buy dat habbo fing cos me and mi mates wanna run it now"

[Constant]

We have more than £10 ;)

We have hundreds

[QueenHex]

So that will cover your basic small client server for a couple of months?

[Constant]

I know alot of people

The coding is around £400-£500 for the client. I also know a website that does game hosting for $17 per month

[Kanker.]

Darren i would just stop posting here.

[F32]

Thing is, in this case it's not opinions or thoughts, it's life facts.

Saying you have 'hundreds' means nothing, £60 a month for a half-decent server...?

[Kanker.]

Remove that Quote. its well harsh.

&& Erm. Yer but its better then nout tho.!!11111 *+*+**

[Oni]

Thing is, in this case it's not opinions or thoughts, it's life facts.

Saying you have 'hundreds' means nothing, £60 a month for a half-decent server...?
Actually it is $17 a month for a reliable flash server.

[F32]

Actually it is $17 a month for a reliable flash server.
Is it just flash?

[Constant]

Yes its $17 a month for a decent flash server

That is probs what we will go for

[F32]

Yes its $17 a month for a decent flash server

That is probs what we will go for
£10?

Rofl.

Great server standards that will be.

[Constant]

They are good...

They have everything we would need...

Please dont judge us because of the server we go with

[F32]

Yeh, you can have about half a person on at a time.

Woot woot.

[craigg.]

'Constant', I am a 'retired' website developer, and I have been for little less than a year now. I know C sharp, C++, Lingo, etc. Trust me, you will not hire anyone off this website at all, and I do mean that. To be honest, you are showing yourself to be unprofessional and desperate, this is what I have said a numeral of times to previous MOC's.

Many MOC's have came on this forum, and many have left. A numeral of members on this forum have contributed to their threads, and the reason why we are so harsh, is because we a re true. Younger members will see you through the process, but none will guarantee you a dedicated time and place. The whole idea is a shambles, even from the point go. I know I am not entitled to say such a thing, but come on, think about it. Habbo Hotel have created this, now lets move on to something new? A new idea possibly? But I am not inclined to say such things.

I don't mean to come across disrespectful, yet still, I would like to make my point clear; this idea has done before, so the public will choose the most popular. I honestly recommend you come up with a different idea as if you were to make this; you would go into debt, and fairly rapidly. You would have to get a server developer and some hefty servers if you wish to make this game. I can understand from a starting point, but you must make a 'risk assessment' and choose every path you are going to take without making a decision when it comes to that point.

I hope your game goes to plan, and I hope you do get to a point in which you would like to be. Programmers such as myself can earn up to £60,000 a year, and I'm sure a few hundred of pounds aren’t going to make a lot of developers exactly jump to your request. If I were going to work for a company, I would surely not work for you, and I don't come to you as you directly, but your resources are limited I'm guessing, and you are unaware on what you are getting yourself into. All well being that you can have a meeting through a network etc, but you haven’t sold the website in such a way that I would join your team, nor register.

You need to sit down with your managing directors etc, and come up with all your resources before you jump in to the wide world requesting help. Resources such as business letters, logo, screenshots, specifications, where are you predicted in the future etc. This would be vital for investors. I wish all of your staff the best of luck, and I hope you do make it through the end of the tunnel.

Thank you for your time in reading this,
Kind regards,
Craig Embleton.

[F32]

Alas, someone with some brains!

[Constant]

We know there are other people out there.

There is more than one newsagents, but people still go to them.

We do have a logo, business letters, art etc.

I think people are just judging us, before they look into it.

I see that I am not going to find anyone here. I was hoping I would however I have not.

[F32]

Bad example, as news agents is something that people need.

People dont need half-arsed mmocc's.

[Constant]

There are millions of MMOCC users out there...

Also i am possibley getting some sulake staff to work beside me.

Thats not confirmed though

[Unpredictible.]

what sort of staff, to do what?

[F32]

There are millions of MMOCC users out there...
No there isn't.



Also i am possibley getting some sulake staff to work beside me.
You migght aswell've stopped with the lies on post one.

[Oni]

£10?

Rofl.

Great server standards that will be.
Actually it is as flash are very small files its only 300 mb webspace but 300 Gb traffic.

[Constant]

Correct Flash

Also I said it was not confirmed about thesulake staff, therefore dont call me a lier.

[F32]

You think PAID PROFESSIONALS who do this sort of thing will help you out for pocket money?

Dude, the guys up in Helsinki probably get paid £10.00+ an hour.

You have, no chance.

[Oni]

You think PAID PROFESSIONALS who do this sort of thing will help you out for pocket money?

Dude, the guys up in Helsinki probably get paid £10.00+ an hour.

You have, no chance.
He doesnt care what you think Adam none of us do so just get lost. Maybe it wont work maybe they do get payed £10.00 an hour and maybe he will waste his money but its HIS choice he asked for help not a lecture about how it dont work ok. HE DOESNT CARE!

[F32]

And you know this?

He can speak for himself you know.

It's a forum, it's a place for discussions and opinions.

There's quite a handy ignore feature on this forum - use it.

[Oni]

And you know this?

He can speak for himself you know.

It's a forum, it's a place for discussions and opinions.

There's quite a handy ignore feature on this forum - use it.
This is not a discussion thread hes simply hiring someone for a job and if you dont like his threads why not ignore him?. But then again I suppose youd have the whole forum ignored as you seem to hate everyone.

[Constant]

We have now got a small company to code out client

Please close thread, as position is taken

www.suerteheights.com/board for more information ;)

[F32]

Hate everyone?

No.

I don't hate anyone on this forum, hate is a strong word to use over networks .
Some people, I dislike, yes, but not hate.

I have my opinions, forums are for sharing opinions and discussing various topics.

Yes, he may've wanted to only hire someone, but we wanted to know more about this subject and as we got to know more a discussion broke out.

Now, you are continuing this discussion by posting and replying back to the posts; if you wish for me to stop discussing this topic; don't post back aye?

Btw, you cannot request your thread to be closed.

[QueenHex]

Xeoro is only speaking the truth and what the sensible, mature members are all thinking. From all his honest comments your responses seem to be limited to "dats what u fink" "yeah well shut up!!!!!" "omg no one likes u" and those comments really help promote your "mature business image"

[Oni]

Xeoro is only speaking the truth and what the sensible, mature members are all thinking. From all his honest comments your responses seem to be limited to "dats what u fink" "yeah well shut up!!!!!" "omg no one likes u" and those comments really help promote your "mature business image"
No 1 I am not part of his 'buisness'.
No 2 Its not a discussion thread.
No 3 Could you please quote in this thread where I used such words as OMG no one likes you.

Oh yeah, Adam you started all of this with 'Your a wannabe' which isnt what he asked and hes asking for people to code it. If every forum had the same response as you there would be no MMOCC's because no one would code them as everyones response is your a wannabe. The owner of it doesnt neccisarily (sp?) have to code it.

[F32]

I'll just sit back, relax with a bud; and watch this flop.

Just, don't come crying to me when your mommy tells you to get up from your basement.