Muslims new claim..

[Smiddy]

Quoting from the sun...

ANGRY Muslims yesterday complained that films always portrayed them as terrorists and villains — even in the cartoon Aladdin. A string of blockbusters — even those made before Osama Bin Laden’s Twin Towers attack — were accused of giving Islam a “bad name”.
They included the 1981 smash Raiders Of The Lost Ark, Bruce Willis’s The Siege and Halle Berry flick Executive Decision.


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Real villain ... terror chief Bin Laden


The Islamic Human Rights Commission polled 1,250 British Muslims and found just four per cent thought they were fairly represented in films.
The commission’s report said Arabs in movies were given “exaggerated and ridiculous accents”.
And it claimed films played a crucial role in “fostering a crude and exaggerated image”.
Chief researcher Arzu Merali said: “You don’t get a good Muslim guy in a movie. This stretches back before the 9/11 attacks in the United States.
“Cinema has helped to demonise Muslims. They are portrayed as violent and backward. That reinforces prejudices.”
The report complained the 1992 Disney cartoon Aladdin gave “good Arabs” American accents.
And it said the film, featuring Arab baddie Jafar, linked Islamic culture with “harsh punishments and oppressive practices”.
The opening song refers to a place where they “cut off your ear if they don’t like your face”.
The Indiana Jones thriller Raiders of the Lost Ark was accused by the commission of using “cultural stereotypes”. It shows veiled women dashing through bazaars with snake-charming music playing in the background.
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the 1998 Bruce Willis movie The Siege — about a terror attack on New York — reinforced the “stereotype of the Muslim being violent and ready to be martyred”.
The film “brings into focus some of the worst American fears — Muslims or Arabs attacking the country, murdering men, women and children and attacking the way of life”.
It also hints that “terrorist acts are intrinsic to Islamic beliefs and practices”. The 1996 Halle Berry movie Executive Decision was attacked as “almost defining terrorism as an Islamic ritual”.
The report called for British film censors to be given greater power to cut out “objectionable material”.
And it said media watchdogs should be more effective in making sure Muslims got “responsible coverage”.

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Thoughts? I think it's a bit of a crazy claim to make myself.

[Axel]

Lol Aladdin doesn't do Jihad...

[GommeInc]

Interesting... Well, Aladdin was made a long time ago and I can't even remember if there was anyone who was Muslim who was bad in it? Or are they talking about Jafar? Who was the same race as everyone else?

If they want films with a good muslim, make them yourselves "/

[Nixt]

Sorry that's just ridiculous. Okay certain films may portray people stereotypically, but they do it with everyone from every race/culture because it makes the film easier to understand.

[DaveTaylor]

is Mr binny Laden even alive still?

PS: borat was racist so to speak againist jews and yes hes jewish thats not the point but all of israel isnt going nuts are they?

[Nixt]

is Mr binny Laden even alive still?

PS: borat was racist so to speak againist jews and yes hes jewish thats not the point but all of israel isnt going nuts are they?

I don't think no one really knows, lol. I think that he is still being looked for though, but he could be dead for all we know.

[Axel]

Muslims are just blowing everything out of proportion.

[F32]

lol @ muslim claims at the minute.

They got burger king to change their boxes on the whoppers becase the symbol on the top looked like the symbol of allah.

But, to be honest; what were they doing eating meat in the first place?

[DaveTaylor]

Knowing Binny he's in america somewhere

[RedStratocas]

Like Christians are any better. There are Christians who claim they see the virgin Mary in a soiled bed sheet. And Christians protested The Da Vinci code, if there were movies about jesus-followers as terrorists, Christians would be just as mad or even more.

[Josh-H]

Its not just muslims who are portrayed 'badly' (note the quote marks) in films and on tv. EVERY race is. Deal with it?

[Seatherny]

What a load of ********.
Americans, Russians, Britons, Indians, Germans etc etc etc have all been portayed as terrorists on films/TV shows.
Obviously they will all say they are portayed as terrorists :rolleyes:. Tbh I don't get it, muslims say that they are meant to promote peace, but at school its mainly muslims who cause most fights and are the most aggressive?
I dont see Russians, Americans, Britons etc complaining about films which portray them as terrorists?

If they don't like it then they shouldn't watch it.

[summer]

what a load of rubbish.

if they don't like the films - simply don't watch them.

[Browney]

Like Christians are any better. There are Christians who claim they see the virgin Mary in a soiled bed sheet. And Christians protested The Da Vinci code, if there were movies about jesus-followers as terrorists, Christians would be just as mad or even more.

There were'nt any cases of christian terrorism though? Well except for the Belfast bombings. And there has been cases of muslim terrorism.

The thing is, terrorists are just EXTREMELY devouted to their faith. And a christian who is extremely devout will forgive and never kill. The muslim faith has a reputation of pride, honour and integrity. They are extremely proud people. When people hear the word terrorist it obviously sparks muslim to the mind but there are terroirists of all religion.

[DCeption]

Next they will be wanting us to whipe their ***** for them.

And they can eat meat, as long as it is halal (not usre of the spelling)

[benjamin]

muslims do my head in tbh

if they don't like something it's tough, and that should go for all religions

[F32]

its not like we go to pakistan and tell them all to put face cream on and stop using their hosepipes is it?

[VINTAGE]

well my name is rosie so aye beat tht

[Axel]

Like in Broken Arrow, that guy was a terrorist (I think, dunno) and he was American, and there wasn't loads of people complaining about that.

[YoManGo!]

is Mr binny Laden even alive still?

My mum has this theory that ''Binny'' doesn't exist. He's a character George Bush made up to symbolize terrorism. I told her to stop reading so many conspiracy novels.

The truth is there is a negative view towards Muslims in most modern popular culture. Muslims are like the Jews of the 21st Century, so to speak.

[Yoshimitsui]

Tahts a bit over the top in my opinion, it's just an excuse to see what can be blamed on who. Sorry and all.

[YoManGo!]

Tahts a bit over the top in my opinion, it's just an excuse to see what can be blamed on who. Sorry and all.

but then, if you were a Muslim I'm pretty sure you'd be sick to hell of it. Particuarly coming from Leeds, when the 7/7 bombers were from Leeds.

[FlyingJesus]

Muslims are just blowing everything out of proportion.

looooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Nah but seriously, Aladdin? The good guys and bad guys are the same race and nationality.

[Axel]

looooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Nah but seriously, Aladdin? The good guys and bad guys are the same race and nationality.

Ta for the rep.

And ye, they Aladdin Jihad thing was supposed to be the funny post, but meh. They are blowing stuff out of proportion. Like Christmas changing to Winterveil. They don't have to change Diwali or whatever they do to Summerveil or whenever it is.

[YoManGo!]

Ta for the rep.

And ye, they Aladdin Jihad thing was supposed to be the funny post, but meh. They are blowing stuff out of proportion. Like Christmas changing to Winterveil. They don't have to change Diwali or whatever they do to Summerveil or whenever it is.

LOL
Diwali isn't an Islamic celebration.
haha I literally lol'd :)

[Axel]

LOL
Diwali isn't an Islamic celebration.
haha I literally lol'd :)

I don't know, didn't pay much attention in RE and now we're doing philosophy (decent stuff)

[RedStratocas]

There were'nt any cases of christian terrorism though? Well except for the Belfast bombings. And there has been cases of muslim terrorism.

The thing is, terrorists are just EXTREMELY devouted to their faith. And a christian who is extremely devout will forgive and never kill. The muslim faith has a reputation of pride, honour and integrity. They are extremely proud people. When people hear the word terrorist it obviously sparks muslim to the mind but there are terroirists of all religion.

More people have died in the name of Jesus than Muhammad.

And I doubt that this is every Muslim out there, most muslims probably dont care.

[FlyingJesus]

Ta for the rep.

And ye, they Aladdin Jihad thing was supposed to be the funny post, but meh. They are blowing stuff out of proportion. Like Christmas changing to Winterveil. They don't have to change Diwali or whatever they do to Summerveil or whenever it is.

I just thought it was funny how the thread's about Muslims being portrayed as terrorists and you used the term "blowing things" out of proportion. The humour was enhanced by the presence of a bomb in your sig ^_^

[Demynx]

Most religions are just an excuse to make harsh battles for people to follow there own or to complain. [No Offence to the religion-people] :3

[Smiddy]

Who's to say the "bad guys" are even of a muslim faith.. They might just like the style.

[YoManGo!]

This forum is like a recruiting site for the National Front these days.


Who's to say the "bad guys" are even of a muslim faith.. They might just like the style.

loads of Asians at my school seem to have switched from Hinduism to Islam because it's cool.
Silly really, Hinduism is one of the most fascinating and believable religious views there is.

[Axel]

I just thought it was funny how the thread's about Muslims being portrayed as terrorists and you used the term "blowing things" out of proportion. The humour was enhanced by the presence of a bomb in your sig ^_^

Rofl, I see now. :P

[DiscoPat]

lol @ muslim claims at the minute.

They got burger king to change their boxes on the whoppers becase the symbol on the top looked like the symbol of allah.

But, to be honest; what were they doing eating meat in the first place?

You're so thick, we can eat meat..

[benjamin]

This forum is like a recruiting site for the National Front these days.



loads of Asians at my school seem to have switched from Hinduism to Islam because it's cool.
Silly really, Hinduism is one of the most fascinating and believable religious views there is.
you can't really say it's one of the most believable religions there are because people all have different opinions and faiths.

[YoManGo!]

People, don't attack something you don't understand.

-Muslims can eat meat
-Muslims don't celebrate Diwali

I'm sure more classics like those above are on their way soon.


you can't really say it's one of the most believable religions there are because people all have different opinions and faiths.

when you put it into perspective with modern life, it makes more rational sense than other religions, mainly monotheistic ones. is that more acceptable for one?

[FlyingJesus]

Hinduism is one of the most fascinating and believable religious views there is.

I'll agree that Hinduism is definitely one of the most interesting religions to study (and I do like the study of religion, I think it's really fun sometimes), and I can actually see what you mean by it being believable, in that the gods do not claim to be omniscient, omnipresent or omnipotent, or even claim to care too much about the world. I would go into it more but I'd end up writing a full essay ^_^

[YoManGo!]

I could write a full essay about religious studies, heh.
One of the ancient Hindu scriptures says something along the lines of;
''When the great one comes down he may know, or he may not know''
I like things like that where you can build your own assumptions on it rather than have a direct belief shoved down your throat.

[:Hazel]

they are always the victims, everyone is against them. :rolleyes: its getting stupid now.

[Seatherny]

You're so thick, we can eat meat..

What I don't get is that a lot of Muslims I know class halal meat as veggie? I thought Muslims were meant to promote peace, but Halal is a cruel way of killing an animal where you slowly drain its blood, while it dies in torture. And after its dead, you ask for forgiveness?


This forum is like a recruiting site for the National Front these days.



loads of Asians at my school seem to have switched from Hinduism to Islam because it's cool.
Silly really, Hinduism is one of the most fascinating and believable religious views there is.


It's also the oldest - and many things in our holy book have been prooved to be true. E.g. The bridge between India & Sri Lanka, which is exactly how it was described.

[DiscoPat]

We don't class 'Halal' meat as 'veggie', and the animal doesnt really suffer as you
call it, what happens is that you say a prayer and the eyes of the animal is tied with like a cloth or somthing and you just cut the kneck n stuff, I never seen it happen like with my eyes n stuff but ive seen alot of videos of how people torture the animals i think the website was meat.org or somthing i aint sure but i know there are alot of sites... So yeah..

[Browney]

More people have died in the name of Jesus than Muhammad.

And I doubt that this is every Muslim out there, most muslims probably dont care.

If they have I suppose they are just using their faith to cover themselves. Because I doubt any faith recommends killing as many as possible.

[beth]

oh this is getting rediculas now. i swear, people need stop hunting for problems with everything.

[Mentor]

Fair claim, Its quite likly there negativly represented in films, as most things are in at least a few filsm "/
But, that doesnt then give them censorship rights above anyone else's belifes, it just means there allowed to have that opinion on films.
Films should still be allowed to portray whom ever they like, how ever they liked to fit with the charicters the film is about "/

[348GTS]

too bad if their religion wants to bomb america, theres nothin we're gonna do

[YoManGo!]

.22; i dont rep, but you deserve bad rep
i highly doubt the quran says ''bomb america''
you fail @ life.

[RedStratocas]

too bad if their religion wants to bomb america, theres nothin we're gonna do

Yeah, even though Islam became a religion around 600AD, and United States became a country in 1776. Makes sense doesnt it?

[OMGitsaROSS]

Im not religious so I don't give two hoots :)

[Seatherny]

.22; i dont rep, but you deserve bad rep
i highly doubt the quran says ''bomb america''
you fail @ life.

No, but most muslims in school are extremely violent, and the quran says "dont be violent".


Just because it says dont do ..., doesnt mean they wont do it.

[RedStratocas]

No, but most muslims in school are extremely violent, and the quran says "dont be violent".


Just because it doesnt say something, doesnt mean they wont do it.

Yeah, just look at christians.

And you cant put something in quotes unless it says it word for word, and I dont think it says "Dont be violent" word for word in violent.

[-Soph-]

Sorry that's just ridiculous. Okay certain films may portray people stereotypically, but they do it with everyone from every race/culture because it makes the film easier to understand.

I totally agree.

[Seatherny]

Yeah, just look at christians.

And you cant put something in quotes unless it says it word for word, and I dont think it says "Dont be violent" word for word in violent.

Well in RE they told us it did.

[hobo]

lmao, that's so stupid.