Guide To vegetarianism - What you didnt know !

[:Liam]

Many people consider vegetarianism as something easy, it really isn't there are so many things people didn't realize vegetarians cant eat.

Additives
Albumen Derived from eggs, probably battery.
Alcohol Many alcoholic drinks are fined (ie clarified) using animal ingredients, see beer and wine. Spirits are suitable for vegetarians except for some Russian and Eastern European Vodkas which may have used bone charcoal in their production. Watch out for cochineal in Campari.
Alpaca Animal derived clothing material.
Anchovies Small fish, found on pizzas and in some brands of worcester sauce.
Angora Animal derived clothing material.
Animal Fat Carcass fat not milk fat.
Aspic Savoury jelly derived from meat or fish.
Beer All cask conditioned "real" ales will have been fined with isinglass, and some keg, bottled and canned bitters, milds and stouts also. Lagers are generally chill filtered, but some brands may use isinglass on occasion (see also Beer from the Alcohol Info Sheet).
Beta-carotene A colouring from carrots however sometimes stabilized with meat.
Biscuits Quite likely to contain animal fats.
Bone Used in bone china and cutlery handles.
Bread Most large producers use vegetable based emulsifiers (E471, E472 etc), but local bakers may not. Some bakers may grease the tins with animal fat.
Breakfast cereals Often fortified with vitamin D3.
Brushes Animal hair is commonly used for paint and shaving brushes.
Butter Pure butter is suitable for vegetarians.
Capsules Usually made from gelatine, vegetarian alternatives are coming onto the market.
Cashmere Animal derived clothing material.
Catering/Cookery Training may require the handling of meat.
Caviar Fish eggs. The fish must be killed to obtain the eggs.
Cheese Likely to have been produced using animal rennet.
Chewing gum Often contain glycerine. Wrigleys use a vegetable glycerine.
Chips May have been fried in animal fat.
Chitin Produced from crab & shrimp shells.
Chocolate Watch out for whey and emulsifiers.
Clothing Many materials derived from animals, others causing environmental problems.
Cochineal E120, made from crushed insects.
Crisps Often use whey as a flavour carrier, ready salted are the only clearly vegetarian flavour, though some beef crisps are flavoured with yeast extract and are therefore suitable.
Down Usually from slaughtered ducks or geese, though some live plucking does occur, used in bedding.
E numbers Hardly any are suitable ( coke contains suitable e numbers)
Edible Fats Can mean animal fats.
Eggs Some vegetarians may wish to avoid battery eggs and/or barn eggs. The Vegetarian Society does not award its Logo to any products containing eggs other than free range.
Emulsifiers May not be vegetarian.
Fast Food Watch out for Bean/Vegetable burgers being cooked with fish/chicken/meat products.
Fatty Acids May be of animal or vegetable origin.
Feathers Clothing material
Felt Made from wool or fur.
Fur Clothing material
Gelatin/GelatineA gelling agent derived from animal ligaments, skins, tendons, bones etc. Alternatives such as Agar Agar, Carageen [/URL] and Gelozone exist.
Glycerine/Glycerol May be produced from animal fats, synthesised from propylene or from fermentation of sugars. Mostly suitable ( look for the v)
Gravy Vegetarian gravy mixes are available. Be careful in restaurants.
Honey Avoided by most vegans.
Ice Cream Look out for non dairy fats, E numbers, eggs.
Isinglass A fining agent derived from the swim bladders of certain tropical fish, especially the Chinese sturgeon. See Alcohol.
Jelly Usually contains gelatine though alternatives are available.
Lactose Produced from milk, sometimes as a by product of the Cheese making process .
Lanolin Produced from sheep's wool. Used to make vitamin D3.
Leather Around 10% of the value of an animal at slaughter is in its skin.
Lecithin Nearly always produced from soya beans, though can be produced from eggs.
Margarines May contain animal fats, fish oils, vitamin D3, E numbers,whey[URL="http://www.vegsoc.org/info/stumbling.html#whey"] (http://www.vegsoc.org/info/gelling.html#cara), gelatine.
Mohair Animal derived clothing material.
Olive Oil No problems! Just worth knowing about.
Pasta May contain eggs.
Pastry May contain animal fat.
Pepsin Enzyme from a pig's stomach, used like rennet.
Pet Foods Dogs are omnivorous and can be fed on an exclusively vegetarian diet. Canned and dried dog foods are available.
Photography All Photographic film uses gelatine.
Postage Stamps The backing glue is free from animal products.
Rennet An enzyme taken from the stomach of a newly killed calf used in the cheese making process. Vegetarian cheese is produced using microbial or fungal enzymes.
Restaurants Watch out for non-vegetarian cheese
Roe Fish eggs, Caviar .
Shellac Secreted under tree bark by insects. To be treated in a similar way to Honey.
Shoes Quality synthetic shoes are becoming more widely available.
Silk Harvesting silk used in invariably causes the death of the silk worm.
Soap Many soaps are not vegetarian since they use animal fats and/or glycerine. Vegetable oil based soaps are quite widely available.
Soft Drinks Some canned Orange drinks use gelatine as a carrier for added Beta Caratine. (This would not appear on the ingredients panel).
Soup Watch out for the stock.
Spirits (alcoholic that is!) possible problems with fining and filtering.
Stearic Acid May be vegetarian or not.
Stock May contain animal fat.
Suet Usually made from animal fat, vegetable versions are available.
Sweets Look out for gelatine in boiled sweets and mints, and cochineal in boiled sweets and Smarties. (some vegetarian sweets are listed by chocolate manufacturers.)
Toothpaste Many brands contain glycerine.
Vegan The Vegan Society produces The Animal Free Shopper which lists branded products suitable for vegans .
Vitamins Vitamin D2 is produced by sunlight acting on bacteria, however D3 is derived from lanolin from sheeps wool therefore only D3 which is guaranteed sourced from wool sheared from live sheep is considered acceptable.
Seedling Symbol You can be sure that any products carrying the Vegetarian Society's V symbol have been thoroughly checked to ensure they are suitable for vegetarians.
Washing powder Soap based powders may contain animal fats.
Whey Whey and whey powder are usually by-products of the cheese making produce which mainly uses animal rennet.
Wine May have been fined using isinglass, dried blood, egg albumen, gelatine, chitin. Vegetarian alternatives include bentonite, kieselguhr, kaolin and silica gel. Non vintage port is fined with gelatine.
Wool may not be so sheep friendly.
Worcester Sauce Most brands contain anchovies.
Yoghurts Some low fat yoghurts contain gelatine.Hope you found this helpful LiamMonty, For anymore information on vegetarianism PM me :D

[Wayne]

Woah, that's a long list! Surely not all vegetarians decide not to eat that food?

[:Liam]

Im a strict vegetarian I try as hard as I can to stick to it :P sorry for double post within editing limit I forgot

[Browney]

Go live in the forest and eat berries.

[clarissa !!]

..so what can you eat?

[summer]

..so what can you eat?
haha innit.

i don't like vegetarians/vegans. if you are one cause your family are n that i have no problem, but if you're one that is because you believe it's cruel to animals, then i have no time for you.

[summer]

..so what can you eat?
haha innit.

i don't like vegetarians/vegans. if you are one cause your family are n that i have no problem, but if you're one that is because you believe it's cruel to animals, then i have no time for you.

[velocity]

so, basically you starve?

[:Liam]

There are lots of things that I can eat. Its just there are quite a few things I cant, but there is lots more that I can than cant. And pacemaker, dont you think its down to the person? Im one of "thoose people " who thinks its wrong to kill animals as they feel pain when they die, Some might argue vegetables and fruit are living, Yes they are but they dont have brains or nerves or even senses so they wouldnt feel any pain. However I respect you views just as I hope you respect mine
:D
Reply to post below by cola: ( didnt want to double post
Firstly lots of vegetarians share similar opinions, this explanation is used by many vegetarians not just commando.

[Browney]

Why did'nt you just quote Commando instead of stealing his "plants don't have nerves" comment.

[LeftForDead]

Ok i want you to imagine this

Your a in a room
about the size of your local tesco
Now then your only about 6 years old
Your stood on 4 inches of **** and ****
your leg is broken and you are having to drag yourself to food and water
your mouth is cut up
and there are Thousands of other people just like you
and there are some dead
Thats only the start aswell

Now you try and tell me that we need to get food like that

[zerocool]

WELL IT HELPs .. some eat vegetable salad

[LeftForDead]

WELL IT HELPs .. some eat vegetable salad
what are u on about

[Axel]

If we didn't kill the animals, they'd kill us. Including cows. So I can't be bothered with vegetarianism, plus meat tastes awesome.

[LLLgonza]

This is really, really annoying me.

Animals in the UK are bred for eating. If every person becomes a vegitarian, we would have no use for these animals, and so would not see them. Our Children would grow up not knowing what a cow is.

If we all become vegitarians, the slaughter houses would still keep producing meat, and the meat would be wasted, and thrown away. A waste of a life. We cna at least have the decency to cook it well, and eat it well. Meat is something British people should be proud of.
Humans we created and designed for an omnivorious diet. If we beome vegitarians, we lack alot of proteins that we can only get from meat and eggs, and eggs should only be eaten in small amnmounts, not more than 3 aweek, or it is very bad for your liver.
We would also be defficiant in minerals such as Iron and Lactori. These would make our skin horrible, dry and skret.

Don't you dare tell me that "we can take suppliments".

Where the hell do you think they get the proteins? It is chemically removed from a peice of meat. Its the quickest, cheapest and comercialist way to do it. I know, I have a degree in Food and Digestion.

[Glitter]

tbh, half the things on that list are actually edible by vegetarians.. thats more vegan.

[scubadiva]

Tbh, saying 'I think killing animals is bad, so I'm not going to eat meat, even if I think it tastes good' is stupid, because it won't stop anything, the exact same amount of animals will be slaughtered for their meat.

[Browney]

I suppose if I was a cow knee deep in **** I'd be thinking "..." as animals have no rational thought.

[beth]

AHA. you know what's really funny?
i'm vegetarian and this whole list irritates me. i am 17 this year & i was born int o a vegetarian family, i had no choice whether i would eat meat or not & i was forced into eating narsty pulses & stuff like that.
i really actually hate people who stand around being like "LOL, DONT EAT MEAT ITS CRUEL." if i had the choice, i would choose being a meat-eater anyday. i want to eat meat, but my doctors have told me not to simply because of a surge of protein & then i would be seriously seriously ill, so i have to stick with it.
rofl, i envy people who have the choice & then it really iritates me when people post big lists of stuff vegetarians should & shouldn't eat.
i don't really care what i eat aslong as it isnt like a hunk of beef or whatever. lamb&mint crisps aren't vegetarian; i don't care, they are lovely.
i think the most hypocritical thing is when people start saying to me "you're not a real vegetarian." i've probably been a vegetarian for longer than most people, so to tell me i'm not a REAL vegetarian really annoys me no end.

hm, i'm done. that probably makes no sense but w/e.

[LeftForDead]

My main reason why i dont eat meat is because they are treat badly the animals
If they treated the animals better i would have less of a problem with them doing it

[beth]

ok commando ye, tell me did you choose to be a vegetarian?
& also tell me what would happen if 80% of the planet didn't eat meat.

[LeftForDead]

ok commando ye, tell me did you choose to be a vegetarian?
& also tell me what would happen if 80% of the planet didn't eat meat.

I choose to be vegan

and i dont know tbh
every year a vegi saves 100 aniamls lives
also we use more energy on animals then we do on plants

[scubadiva]

every year a vegi saves 100 aniamls lives
Not really, those animals get slaughtered anyway...

[LeftForDead]

Not really, those animals get slaughtered anyway...
If a supplier sees that it is not selling as much meat
they will cut back on killing it and making it?

[LLLgonza]

No, they won't.

Beleive me.

As long as they can see profit, they will take it.

Even if the meat is disposed of, they still get paid for it

[Meticulous]

This whole conversation is getting a bit bigger than it was supposed to I think...
People that want to be vegetarions and and vegans can be cause it is their choice. And in some cases may not be.
But my view is that humans are omnivores and that we were made to eat meat. And in ways we don't get enough nutriants with out it. But of course there are supliments so you can still stay alive is you are a vegetarion or a vegan.
And yes. That Vegan list is very big ;D
Personally I think that being a vegetarian is okay. But vegan may be going a bit far.

[beth]

vegan is just extra.
no offence meant, it's just like oh gosh. why not give up altogether & go anerexic?

[Nike]

can't live without my BEAUTIFUL MEAT.

*droolz

xoxo

[LeftForDead]

No, they won't.

Beleive me.

As long as they can see profit, they will take it.

Even if the meat is disposed of, they still get paid for it

erm no
If a supplier doesnt buy it off a company until it changes
chances are, it will change


vegan is just extra.
no offence meant, it's just like oh gosh. why not give up altogether & go anerexic?
But mos the stuff we have is not ment for us anyway
You say meat is ok, But cows and goats milk isnt is it?
Were not ment to our sisters, mums, anties, etc eggs do we?
so why eat a chickens?

[GommeInc]

Why give yourself the trouble? Eating meat makes you healthier and you don't need as much to get a good source of nutrition. Vegetables are terrible for nutrition and aren't as good for the immune system. Vegetarians get sick easier compared to someone who eats meat.

[clarissa !!]

vegan is like "oh i wanna be just a bit more awkward & different and not eat any animal products just because i can"

[GommeInc]

vegan is like "oh i wanna be just a bit more awkward & different and not eat any animal products just because i can"
Level 7 Vegan - You don't eat anything with a shadow.

[LeftForDead]

vegan is like "oh i wanna be just a bit more awkward & different and not eat any animal products just because i can"

No its not
Its like
not eating things which arent designed for us
and what doesnt inflict pointless pain and waste of life

[clarissa !!]

No its not
Its like
not eating things which arent designed for us
and what doesnt inflict pointless pain and waste of life
i understand vegeterian but vegan just seems stupid.

its like, why do cows produce milk? to feed their young.. it doesnt cause them any pain to produce it.

[GommeInc]

No its not
Its like
not eating things which arent designed for us
and what doesnt inflict pointless pain and waste of life
What you said was very confusing... Techinally, you should be dead with your theory. Plants weren't designed for us, yet we reap their fruits and eat them. Replace that with an animal, and you have roughly the same thing "/ Open your mouth and look at your teeth, you'll notice our front teeth are designed for ripping at meat. If they weren't, they would be flat or thicker...

[LeftForDead]

i understand vegeterian but vegan just seems stupid.

its like, why do cows produce milk? to feed their young.. it doesnt cause them any pain to produce it.

but were not cows young now are we?
If we want milk why dont we have humans doing it?
hey youve just said it wouldnt hurt a cow to produce milk for the rest of its life, so it wont hurt a mother right?


What you said was very confusing... Techinally, you should be dead with your theory. Plants weren't designed for us, yet we reap their fruits and eat them. Replace that with an animal, and you have roughly the same thing "/ Open your mouth and look at your teeth, you'll notice our front teeth are designed for ripping at meat. If they weren't, they would be flat or thicker...
Oh i know that yes but if u look at the back of your teeth its ment for plants.
And yes we are ment to drink milk BUT
its when we are young
and its from our mothers
Not a cow or goat

[GommeInc]

Oh i know that yes but if u look at the back of your teeth its ment for plants.
And yes we are ment to drink milk BUT
its when we are young
and its from our mothers
Not a cow or goat
Actually, they're just for grinding up the food, meat or vegetables. Humans are meant to eat meat and/or vegetables, the fact we have teeth meant for both is the obvious reason why meat is good for us.

Who said milk isn't for people who aren't 'young?' Some babies can't actually get breast fed from their mothers, due to medical reasons with the mother or the baby, and considering a cows milk is nutritional, why not drink of it? Your argument is very strange...

So you don't mind stealing fruit off a tree, but you care about stealing milk from a cow? You cruel person, that fruit isn't OURS!

[LeftForDead]

Actually, they're just for grinding up the food, meat or vegetables. Humans are meant to eat meat and/or vegetables, the fact we have teeth meant for both is the obvious reason why meat is good for us.

Who said milk isn't for people who aren't 'young?' Some babies can't actually get breast fed from their mothers, due to medical reasons with the mother or the baby, and considering a cows milk is nutritional, why not drink of it? Your argument is very strange...

So you don't mind stealing fruit off a tree, but you care about stealing milk from a cow? You cruel person, that fruit isn't OURS!


Oh ye i know some people cant drink milk cos of medical reasons, but we have replacers!

Also Cows milk is designed for a calf
not a baby
thats what im trying to say

and at the last bit
Im not the one killing animals drinking the milk and stealing the fruit am i?

[:Hazel]

im a vegetarian and i dont stink to everyone of those bullet points so shoot me?

[GommeInc]

Oh ye i know some people cant drink milk cos of medical reasons, but we have replacers!

Also Cows milk is designed for a calf
not a baby
thats what im trying to say

and at the last bit
Im not the one killing animals drinking the milk and stealing the fruit am i?
Replacements are taken from something not "designed" for us, as you said ;) I am using your crazy argument against you, that things that aren't "designed" for us shouldn't be used by us... Which if you follow this, I fail to see how you're alive?

Cows milk is meant for a calf, yes. But it doesn't mean it is only meant for a calf. We are dominant over a cow, and we can get this milk, its produce. Besides, you say it as if the cow is going to fight back if you try to take its milk, which it doesn't. ALSO, another flaw. If it isn't "designed" for us, how comes we don't have problems drinking it? It adds to our calcium intake, which is good, strong bones and teeth ;)

So how are you living? You don't eat fruit or veg and you have an issue with produce from an animal?

[LeftForDead]

Replacements are taken from something not "designed" for us, as you said ;) I am using your crazy argument against you, that things that aren't "designed" for us shouldn't be used by us... Which if you follow this, I fail to see how you're alive?

Cows milk is meant for a calf, yes. But it doesn't mean it is only meant for a calf. We are dominant over a cow, and we can get this milk, its produce. Besides, you say it as if the cow is going to fight back if you try to take its milk, which it doesn't. ALSO, another flaw. If it isn't "designed" for us, how comes we don't have problems drinking it? It adds to our calcium intake, which is good, strong bones and teeth ;)

So how are you living? You don't eat fruit or veg and you have an issue with produce from an animal?


where have i said i dont eat fruit or veg?

[GommeInc]

Look back over the argument. You seem to refuse to consume things not designed for us. As stated, vegetables. Unless you're living off of some human based substance... But I don't want to go there...

[Blue]

Besides, you say it as if the cow is going to fight back if you try to take its milk, which it doesn't.

Urmm not entirely true. Cravendale so good, the cows want it back!

Anyways, I see where Gomme is going to saying that you should be dead if you only eat/drink things that were meant for us, but i also see the vegetaran s point of view. Many animals do get treated badly, but lots don't. The way they are killed is as humane as possible lots of the times.

[alexxxxx]

Alot of that is about being a Vegan. Rather than actual vegetarianism.

[:Liam]

Why give yourself the trouble? Eating meat makes you healthier and you don't need as much to get a good source of nutrition. Vegetables are terrible for nutrition and aren't as good for the immune system. Vegetarians get sick easier compared to someone who eats meat.
Ding Ding Ding! This infact IS NOT TRUE As long as the vegetarian is healthy and maintains there diet they infact have exactly the same chances of becoming ill.

;3200197']Alot of that is about being a Vegan. Rather than actual vegetarianism. I forgot to mention in title its information for vegetarians and vegans :P.


LiamMonty

[:Hazel]

ive been bought up as a "vegitarian" since i was 3 so thats kinda what im used to. im sick of fools questioning it.

[GommeInc]

Ding Ding Ding! This infact IS NOT TRUE As long as the vegetarian is healthy and maintains there diet they infact have exactly the same chances of becoming ill.
FACT. It is true. The only way a vegetarian can remain healthy as a normal eater of meat and vegetables, is by eating more vegetables because most of a vegetable is unwanted by the body. Most of the meat is useful, which is why more vegetables are required to get to the same levels. You have to sacrifice being thin in some cases, because obviously more food will make your belly stick out. For a vegan, you might aswell kill yourself at the first stage, because you cannot survive on pasta and veg...

[LLLgonza]

erm no
If a supplier doesnt buy it off a company until it changes
chances are, it will change


THEY FREAKIN WELL DO!
I live on a farm! We produce Beef, Lamp, Pork, Ostrich and milk, as well as vegetables.
The producer will still get paid, because the supermarket would still buy it.


Go to a farm shop, geeze.

[Browney]

THEY FREAKIN WELL DO!
I live on a farm! We produce Beef, Lamp, Pork, Ostrich and milk, as well as vegetables.
The producer will still get paid, because the supermarket would still buy it.


Go to a farm shop, geeze.

Veering offtopic: I tried Ostrich. T'was really nice.

Ontopic: We were built as omnivores. We have teeth for meat and teeth for vegetables. We need a balance of both to reach our full potential.

[English]

Ontopic: We were built as omnivores. We have teeth for meat and teeth for vegetables. We need a balance of both to reach our full potential.
I think that quote sums it up. Say all you want about what's designed for us and what isn't, the teeth aren't like that to look pretty.

[LeftForDead]

THEY FREAKIN WELL DO!
I live on a farm! We produce Beef, Lamp, Pork, Ostrich and milk, as well as vegetables.
The producer will still get paid, because the supermarket would still buy it.


Go to a farm shop, geeze.


So your telling me, that if people stopped buying meat off you until you changed something, you would still carry on like you are even if it puts you out of bussness?

[GommeInc]

I think that quote sums it up. Say all you want about what's designed for us and what isn't, the teeth aren't like that to look pretty.
Yet people refuse because they do not understand their body and its needs...

We were meant to eat meat, regardless to whether you "feel" an animals pain. Vegan is just worse...

[:Liam]

A human can live without meat, They can be just as healthy as anyone who eats meat, Nowadays anyway, Years ago they would of been quite unhealthy but due to advances in technology and science its been made possible to make meat substitues with just as much protein as actual meat. There is a new grain that has been grown and a small portion of it contains as much protein as 3 rashers of bacon!

[LLLgonza]

yes comanda, that is exactly what I mean.

If the shops don't buy it, someone else would.

"Dog Food" comes to mind!

[FlyingJesus]

Just because we can make substitutes, does that mean we should? We dont have to eat chocolate, but we do.

Many animals in the wild eat meat, so why shouldn't we? We are omnivores, designed to eat meats and plants. You're all for natural fairness, so why interrupt the natural human process of consumption of carcasses?

[Oni]

Many people consider vegetarianism as something easy, it really isn't there are so many things people didn't realize vegetarians cant eat.



Additives
Albumen Derived from eggs, probably battery.
Alcohol Many alcoholic drinks are fined (ie clarified) using animal ingredients, see beer and wine. Spirits are suitable for vegetarians except for some Russian and Eastern European Vodkas which may have used bone charcoal in their production. Watch out for cochineal in Campari.
Alpaca Animal derived clothing material.
Anchovies Small fish, found on pizzas and in some brands of worcester sauce.
Angora Animal derived clothing material.
Animal Fat Carcass fat not milk fat.
Aspic Savoury jelly derived from meat or fish.

Beer All cask conditioned "real" ales will have been fined with isinglass, and some keg, bottled and canned bitters, milds and stouts also. Lagers are generally chill filtered, but some brands may use isinglass on occasion (see also Beer from the Alcohol Info Sheet).
Beta-carotene A colouring from carrots however sometimes stabilized with meat.
Biscuits Quite likely to contain animal fats.
Bone Used in bone china and cutlery handles.
Bread Most large producers use vegetable based emulsifiers (E471, E472 etc), but local bakers may not. Some bakers may grease the tins with animal fat.
Breakfast cereals Often fortified with vitamin D3.
Brushes Animal hair is commonly used for paint and shaving brushes.
Butter Pure butter is suitable for vegetarians.

Capsules Usually made from gelatine, vegetarian alternatives are coming onto the market.
Cashmere Animal derived clothing material.
Catering/Cookery Training may require the handling of meat.
Caviar Fish eggs. The fish must be killed to obtain the eggs.
Cheese Likely to have been produced using animal rennet.
Chewing gum Often contain glycerine. Wrigleys use a vegetable glycerine.
Chips May have been fried in animal fat.
Chitin Produced from crab & shrimp shells.
Chocolate Watch out for whey and emulsifiers.
Clothing Many materials derived from animals, others causing environmental problems.
Cochineal E120, made from crushed insects.
Crisps Often use whey as a flavour carrier, ready salted are the only clearly vegetarian flavour, though some beef crisps are flavoured with yeast extract and are therefore suitable.

Down Usually from slaughtered ducks or geese, though some live plucking does occur, used in bedding.

E numbers Hardly any are suitable ( coke contains suitable e numbers)
Edible Fats Can mean animal fats.
Eggs Some vegetarians may wish to avoid battery eggs and/or barn eggs. The Vegetarian Society does not award its Logo to any products containing eggs other than free range.
Emulsifiers May not be vegetarian.

Fast Food Watch out for Bean/Vegetable burgers being cooked with fish/chicken/meat products.
Fatty Acids May be of animal or vegetable origin.
Feathers Clothing material
Felt Made from wool or fur.
Fur Clothing material

Gelatin/GelatineA gelling agent derived from animal ligaments, skins, tendons, bones etc. Alternatives such as Agar Agar, Carageen and Gelozone exist.
Glycerine/Glycerol May be produced from animal fats, synthesised from propylene or from fermentation of sugars. Mostly suitable ( look for the v)
Gravy Vegetarian gravy mixes are available. Be careful in restaurants.

Honey Avoided by most vegans.

Ice Cream Look out for non dairy fats, E numbers, eggs.
Isinglass A fining agent derived from the swim bladders of certain tropical fish, especially the Chinese sturgeon. See Alcohol.

Jelly Usually contains gelatine though alternatives are available.

Lactose Produced from milk, sometimes as a by product of the Cheese making process .
Lanolin Produced from sheep's wool. Used to make vitamin D3.
Leather Around 10% of the value of an animal at slaughter is in its skin.
Lecithin Nearly always produced from soya beans, though can be produced from eggs.

Margarines May contain animal fats, fish oils, vitamin D3, E numbers,whey, gelatine.
Mohair Animal derived clothing material.

Olive Oil No problems! Just worth knowing about.

Pasta May contain eggs.
Pastry May contain animal fat.
Pepsin Enzyme from a pig's stomach, used like rennet.
Pet Foods Dogs are omnivorous and can be fed on an exclusively vegetarian diet. Canned and dried dog foods are available.
Photography All Photographic film uses gelatine.
Postage Stamps The backing glue is free from animal products.

Rennet An enzyme taken from the stomach of a newly killed calf used in the cheese making process. Vegetarian cheese is produced using microbial or fungal enzymes.
Restaurants Watch out for non-vegetarian cheese
Roe Fish eggs, Caviar .

Shellac Secreted under tree bark by insects. To be treated in a similar way to Honey.
Shoes Quality synthetic shoes are becoming more widely available.
Silk Harvesting silk used in invariably causes the death of the silk worm.
Soap Many soaps are not vegetarian since they use animal fats and/or glycerine. Vegetable oil based soaps are quite widely available.
Soft Drinks Some canned Orange drinks use gelatine as a carrier for added Beta Caratine. (This would not appear on the ingredients panel).
Soup Watch out for the stock.
Spirits (alcoholic that is!) possible problems with fining and filtering.
Stearic Acid May be vegetarian or not.
Stock May contain animal fat.
Suet Usually made from animal fat, vegetable versions are available.
Sweets Look out for gelatine in boiled sweets and mints, and cochineal in boiled sweets and Smarties. (some vegetarian sweets are listed by chocolate manufacturers.)

Toothpaste Many brands contain glycerine.

Vegan The Vegan Society produces The Animal Free Shopper which lists branded products suitable for vegans .
Vitamins Vitamin D2 is produced by sunlight acting on bacteria, however D3 is derived from lanolin from sheeps wool therefore only D3 which is guaranteed sourced from wool sheared from live sheep is considered acceptable.
Seedling Symbol You can be sure that any products carrying the Vegetarian Society's V symbol have been thoroughly checked to ensure they are suitable for vegetarians.

Washing powder Soap based powders may contain animal fats.
Whey Whey and whey powder are usually by-products of the cheese making produce which mainly uses animal rennet.
Wine May have been fined using isinglass, dried blood, egg albumen, gelatine, chitin. Vegetarian alternatives include bentonite, kieselguhr, kaolin and silica gel. Non vintage port is fined with gelatine.
Wool may not be so sheep friendly.
Worcester Sauce Most brands contain anchovies.

Yoghurts Some low fat yoghurts contain gelatine.Hope you found this helpful LiamMonty, For anymore information on vegetarianism PM me :D
I got bored after abit but im vegitarian and everything in black you can do. VEGITARIANS CAN WEAR LEATHER BUT VEGANS CANNOT AND VEGITARIANS CAN EAT EGGS!!! Your list is vegan not vegitarian and you are trying to gain popularity through vegitarianism and act as if you are hard and its a big thing when infact it is not.

[piddle2k6]

That list is if you are really really picky i guess... I mean who is going to ask in a restaurant if it contains.. "blah blah" ??

[alexxxxx]

So your telling me, that if people stopped buying meat off you until you changed something, you would still carry on like you are even if it puts you out of bussness?

Well. You will get money from the government for growing crops and livestock. In some countries, some governments will pay for the crops which are not sold. They are disposed of, but they still get cash. I don't know what it is like in this country.

[:Liam]

I got bored after abit but im vegitarian and everything in black you can do. VEGITARIANS CAN WEAR LEATHER BUT VEGANS CANNOT AND VEGITARIANS CAN EAT EGGS!!! Your list is vegan not vegitarian and you are trying to gain popularity through vegitarianism and act as if you are hard and its a big thing when infact it is not.
I did state that its a list for vegetarians and vegans. However Strict vegetarians do not wear leather! All the fish derived products you highlighted are not vegetarian, Vegetarians Do not eat fish, If they do they are not classed as vegetarian they are classed as pescatarian. Also some vegetarians dont like the handling of meat either.

[English]

First off - there is a food chain in this world. It starts down from the small mammals/insects/plants and goes up & up and up and guess what? We are at the top. Mammals eat other mammals, are you going to go start preaching to animals to stop eating other animals? No I don't think you will so don't start preaching to humans. On from that point if the majority of humans were to become vegetarians then what exactly would happen? Less mammals would be bred so therefore the animals wouldn't have lived atall. Humans give them life by breeding them for our food, and then we take it away. Hell if we gave up eating meat then we would be over-populated with animals and that wouldn't be too good.

At the end of the day, when I tuck into my lovely roast beef with all the trimmings I am thinking about myself - number 1 in the food chain. And when I stay healthy because of this meat which helps growth/repair in my body and I go on to have healthy children then I am totally not giving a **** about what you're saying.

[:Liam]

First off - there is a food chain in this world. It starts down from the small mammals/insects/plants and goes up & up and up and guess what? We are at the top. Mammals eat other mammals, are you going to go start preaching to animals to stop eating other animals? No I don't think you will so don't start preaching to humans. On from that point if the majority of humans were to become vegetarians then what exactly would happen? Less mammals would be bred so therefore the animals wouldn't have lived atall. Humans give them life by breeding them for our food, and then we take it away. Hell if we gave up eating meat then we would be over-populated with animals and that wouldn't be too good.

At the end of the day, when I tuck into my lovely roast beef with all the trimmings I am thinking about myself - number 1 in the food chain. And when I stay healthy because of this meat which helps growth/repair in my body and I go on to have healthy children then I am totally not giving a **** about what you're saying.
In the other thread you said You respected my views? and I also said I do NOT preach ?

[English]

In the other thread you said You respected my views? and I also said I do NOT preach ?
I didn't aim that post at you though...I aimed it at the preaching vegetarians. The ones who tell us to stop eating meat yet won't accept us telling them to eat it.

[Browney]

I agree with gangster. Being vegetarian is your choice and I respect that but please, please don't try and impose your views on us.

[GommeInc]

A human can live without meat, They can be just as healthy as anyone who eats meat, Nowadays anyway, Years ago they would of been quite unhealthy but due to advances in technology and science its been made possible to make meat substitues with just as much protein as actual meat. There is a new grain that has been grown and a small portion of it contains as much protein as 3 rashers of bacon!
Mmmm, fungus... Delicious fungus... I prefer the real thing, not some annoying substitute that tries to make vegetarians a tad normal. Let's make Quorn Burgers! Or Quorn bacon! Can't they call it streaks of quorn and another cool, quorn name for burgers and not use a name associated with meat? It's as if you still like the meat name, but not the meat.

I only respect vegetarians that simply do not like the flavour or texture of meat, or meat makes them ill. Vegetarians who care about the animal are just pathetic excuses for human beings...

[Oni]

I did state that its a list for vegetarians and vegans. However Strict vegetarians do not wear leather! All the fish derived products you highlighted are not vegetarian, Vegetarians Do not eat fish, If they do they are not classed as vegetarian they are classed as pescatarian. Also some vegetarians dont like the handling of meat either.
I dont eat fish but vegetarians can eat fish as a fish is not classed as an animal. Wearing leather has nothing to do with vegetarianism neither doesnt handling meat.

All being Vegetarian means is you dont eat animals.

Im pretty strong vegetarian but i dont go around going be vegetarian or your a killer or im vegetarian so im cool. Whats the point?

[Mentor]

I did state that its a list for vegetarians and vegans. However Strict vegetarians do not wear leather! All the fish derived products you highlighted are not vegetarian, Vegetarians Do not eat fish, If they do they are not classed as vegetarian they are classed as pescatarian. Also some vegetarians dont like the handling of meat either.

Vegiratain means someone who doesnt EAT meat. What you ware is completely and utterly irreliveant to weather your vegirtain or not, so unless you eat your leather jackets it has no effect on how strong a veggie you are.

Then again, strong vegirtain means **** all, as does semi-vegitrain (pescatarians). You eather EAT meat or you do NOT eat meat.
Vegitrains CAN eat animal products, it is specifically meat you cant eat in order to be a vegitrain. You eather Are one or your Are not one

I am NOT one.

[:Liam]

I dont eat fish but vegetarians can eat fish as a fish is not classed as an animal. Wearing leather has nothing to do with vegetarianism neither doesnt handling meat.

All being Vegetarian means is you dont eat animals.

Im pretty strong vegetarian but i dont go around going be vegetarian or your a killer or im vegetarian so im cool. Whats the point?
I am not a preacher, I mearly ask for people to respect my views as I respect theirs! also with wearing leather its a bit hypocritical its basically saying "Im not gonna eat dead animals but I dont mind wearing them"

[Browney]

Mmmm, fungus... Delicious fungus... I prefer the real thing, not some annoying substitute that tries to make vegetarians a tad normal. Let's make Quorn Burgers! Or Quorn bacon! Can't they call it streaks of quorn and another cool, quorn name for burgers and not use a name associated with meat? It's as if you still like the meat name, but not the meat.

I only respect vegetarians that simply do not like the flavour or texture of meat, or meat makes them ill. Vegetarians who care about the animal are just pathetic excuses for human beings...

I do quite like fungus. I mean Quorn! But still, a human refusing to eat meat is like a shark refusing to swim. It's against nature.

[GommeInc]

Maybe not that extreme. Replace shark with cat or dog and replace swim with refusing to eat meat and you have a good example :P Although I do agree with your example :P

[Browney]

Maybe not that extreme. Replace shark with cat or dog and replace swim with refusing to eat meat and you have a good example :P Although I do agree with your example :P

Yeah sorry, the shark thing was the first thing that came into my head. :)

[Oni]

I am not a preacher, I mearly ask for people to respect my views as I respect theirs! also with wearing leather its a bit hypocritical its basically saying "Im not gonna eat dead animals but I dont mind wearing them"

I know but it has nothing to do with vegitarianism

[velocity]

pft, i doubt animals would think twice if they ate you instead [:

[Browney]

All part of the foodchain my friend.

[hobo]

haha innit.

i don't like vegetarians/vegans. if you are one cause your family are n that i have no problem, but if you're one that is because you believe it's cruel to animals, then i have no time for you.]#

what he said tbh :)!

[F32]

This is incorrect.

Vegans cannot eat these; vegetarians can eat most of those.

Vegetarians eat everything apart from meat - vegans eat nothing that comes or is produced via animals.

[irresistible]

uh, wow? large list.
i'm vegetarian, but i still eat gelatine. i'm not vegetarian because the whole cruelty thing, i just don't like meat. the only ones i did like where duck and turkey, thats it.

[irresistible]

uh, wow? large list.
i'm vegetarian, but i still eat gelatine. i'm not vegetarian because the whole cruelty thing, i just don't like meat. the only ones i did like where duck and turkey, thats it.

uh it wont let me edit; i still eat gelatine sweets/jelly is what i ment. & i could never eat meat again, just not having eaten it for so long. i just don't feel the 'need' to, if you get me, lol?

[GommeInc]

I have respect for you :) You simply don't like meat, which is a good answer.The whole cruelty thing is a terrible excuse. How else do you kill an animal without the kill? Anyway, all respects :)

[plastiKKstars]

Im a strict vegetarian I try as hard as I can to stick to it :P sorry for double post within editing limit I forgot

your not veggie
your a vegan
its abit obvious.
& wth
no biscuits, ice cream or crisps?
thats kind of stupid isnt it?

[:Liam]

I know this is a slight bump, Didnt see the comment above. Anyway Im not vegetarian anymore, But anyway I wasnt vegan I was vegetarian I did used to eat eggs milk and cheese. I did state that this was advice for vegetarians and vegans. And what made me eat meat again was the new medcine. its side affect is short term deppression. And I just got sick of everything! so I just started to eat meat again.

[English]

So what got you back into meat then?

[GommeInc]

So what got you back into meat then?
Depression apparently. Maybe his body hungers for a good source of nutrition?

My cousin is "vegetarian" and thinks people who bother reading the ingredients on food containers are sad, annoying and a waste of time.

[Oni]

I imagine this thread was created when you first became vegitarian and you couldnt take it as it was too hard and then quit.

[:Liam]

I imagine this thread was created when you first became vegitarian and you couldnt take it as it was too hard and then quit.
I had been vegetarian for 3 years when I created this thread!

[hazardous3]

You are all idiots, its personal choice, not a topic for debate.

I am and have been all my life. If all of the food which went to animals bred to be slaughtered went to africa, there would be no starving population.

[English]

You are all idiots, its personal choice, not a topic for debate.

I am and have been all my life. If all of the food which went to animals bred to be slaughtered went to africa, there would be no starving population.
If the animals that were bred went to Africa then they'd be feasting.
Plus I'm sure Africans wouldn't like to taste animal food/grass -_-

[Mentor]

You are all idiots, its personal choice, not a topic for debate.

I am and have been all my life. If all of the food which went to animals bred to be slaughtered went to africa, there would be no starving population.

Feel free to go grazeing in the fields and eat grass if you want to, but that will just give you food poisoning and cost the nhs some more cash.
If people could eat the food animals did, we wouldnt have the problem "/

[GommeInc]

Someone didn't look into their idea too far now did they :rolleyes:

It is personal choice, I agree, but considering this thread is pro vegetarianism, it leads to an argument. If it was against it, then maybe it would be a bit off to argue, depending if a vegetarian comes up with points to try and convert.

[Shawnstra]

Who eats washing powder, Roflmao

[FlyingJesus]

You are all idiots, its personal choice, not a topic for debate.

I am and have been all my life. If all of the food which went to animals bred to be slaughtered went to africa, there would be no starving population.

Yeah give the Africans chicken feed, that'll show your love for the Third World.


Who eats washing powder, Roflmao

Best comment I've seen in this thread ^^

[DCeption]

We are desinged to eat meat...

My guide to vegetarianism

Dont become one.

Cant wait to get flamed and -repped for this.

[Browney]

Best comment I've seen in this thread ^^

I have to agree.

[Shawnstra]

Yeah give the Africans chicken feed, that'll show your love for the Third World.



Best comment I've seen in this thread ^^


Haha thanks. But seriously, who does?

[Blinger1]

i might..? it smells nice anyway :(