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Ezzie.
25-02-2007, 02:57 AM
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

Look at the druid part :(

ok so druids were slightly overpowered but if you read the notes they've bent us over so bad, i've just respeccd resto as i wont be able to tank kara cos of the lower damage (damage=aggro) and less aggro generation :( it sucks.

Least resto is ok i guess -.- kinda fun healing in pvp saving the flag carrier at like 5% HP but bah, blizzard ****** us up imo =[

mat64
25-02-2007, 10:14 AM
It was coming dude we all knew it, and to be honest the nerfs arn't "OMG DRUIDS ARE NOW FREE HONOR ***??w?!??!", We'll still be able to PvP, We'll still be able to tank. You should take another look at the notes it's not all bad.

As for repecing resto, I'm sure 2.0.9 is still on the PTR in Europe and they've put 2.0.10 for Testing in America, We've got time left dude enjoy it before the patch comes and see what happens after, The nerf isn't that big we have obviously been buffed alot and now it's time to balence it out.

Personally I'm sticking Feral.

:Jamie
25-02-2007, 10:55 AM
It was coming dude we all knew it, and to be honest the nerfs arn't "OMG DRUIDS ARE NOW FREE HONOR ***??w?!??!", We'll still be able to PvP, We'll still be able to tank. You should take another look at the notes it's not all bad.

What he said

sl4rt is banned
25-02-2007, 01:04 PM
Hehe just posted on guilds forums not long ago anyway

Yeh like matt said we knew it was coming but still we still can be pewpew

Bit of a shame now maybe warriors can tank a bit better now :P:P

jam666
25-02-2007, 05:28 PM
No offence ezzie but i think most other classes are glad on this nerf, as tbh druids are not ment to be as good as a warrior tanking, as good as a priest healing or as good as a rogue dpsing, i do feel sorry for you but you have to admit this was coming to druids.

One more thing whilst were talking about nerfs / buffs im pleased the warriors got buffed as it was definately needed as they were free kills.

mat64
25-02-2007, 07:56 PM
No offence ezzie but i think most other classes are glad on this nerf, as tbh druids are not ment to be as good as a warrior tanking, as good as a priest healing or as good as a rogue dpsing, i do feel sorry for you but you have to admit this was coming to druids.

One more thing whilst were talking about nerfs / buffs im pleased the warriors got buffed as it was definately needed as they were free kills.

To be honest, It's not a nerf it's a balance as we were clearly buffed before this patch will help things out, But druids arn't going to be the same as Pre 2.0.0. Bear has been brought down a notch and it's needed.

On the subject of warriors, I don't think you can call it a buff and the changes won't make a big difference to PvP. Warriors were never a free kill and arn't at the moment. Its the skill that shows don't blame it on the Devs.

Ezzie.
25-02-2007, 11:16 PM
Dude seriously read the notes again [not trying to be offensive] our damage should've been nerfed but not that much :S they've reduced hp/armour/dps and they've even bodged up sme of our idols :S

btw i respeccd back to feral, resto is damn boring ^_^

and why can't we do as good a damage as a rogue or a healer or a tank? that's 3 different sets of specialised armour, if we bring along that armour with the specific talents then why can't we main tank? o.o

oh yeh, we have a 41/41/41 build right? ^_^

basically warriors cried nerf because they couldn't handle another class managing to tank :S

healer=priest=shaman=druid=paladin
dps=rogue=shaman=paladin=fury warrior=feral druid=mage=lock=shadowpriest
tank= warrior and pushing it a paladin.

k..


Also rogues were complaining about us druids :S did they ever hear of stunlocking and rupture kiting? a druid is helpless when being rupture kited

Axel
25-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Rofl Jamie told me this a few days ago. Ownt druids, ownt.

I can beat druids easily anyway.

Ezzie.
25-02-2007, 11:21 PM
Rofl Jamie told me this a few days ago. Ownt druids, ownt.

I can beat druids easily anyway.

I beat warlocks if i get the jump on them at the moment, pounce-mangle-faerie fire-maim-unshift-bear-bash-bear mangle. but if they get the jump on me i'm dead meat.

Axel
25-02-2007, 11:26 PM
I beat warlocks if i get the jump on them at the moment, pounce-mangle-faerie fire-maim-unshift-bear-bash-bear mangle. but if they get the jump on me i'm dead meat.




Hmm druids are easy to beat for me? Just the simple routine Instant Cast Fear > Send Succubus to attack > Fear > Immolate > Corruption > Curse of Agony > Spam Shadow Bolt > Immolate Finisher Spell (forgot what it's called) and if needed, some more fearage.

Ezzie.
25-02-2007, 11:30 PM
Lol what level are you? ^_^ tis alot different from where i'm from

Axel
25-02-2007, 11:34 PM
Errr 46... Druids may get better with age, I don't know.

Hunters seem to grow weaker the higher I get, and Warriors have become stronger. Rogues are just a pain in the *** too.

Ezzie.
25-02-2007, 11:37 PM
fury warriors will be your bane as they can resst your fears and just dps you down, rogues get worse for locks at 64+ (cloak of shadows removes all dots) and hunters i don't really have any problem with at 68

Axel
25-02-2007, 11:45 PM
Yer I know, got beaten by two different warriors in Gadgetzan, both constantly resisted my fear, so damn embarrasing... and Rogues are a pain without Cloak of Shadows, they stealth so you can't click and fear them, then spring out of nowhere with a massive crit + stun.

Ezzie.
25-02-2007, 11:51 PM
Yer I know, got beaten by two different warriors in Gadgetzan, both constantly resisted my fear, so damn embarrasing... and Rogues are a pain without Cloak of Shadows, they stealth so you can't click and fear them, then spring out of nowhere with a massive crit + stun.

at level 50 if you're affliction (i think) you get a felguard, if you know a rogue is about positon felguard about 5yards away from you, rogue attacks = send felguard to intercept= 2 second ish stun, gives you enough time to deathcoil, put curses on-fear, and when you fear move away from him!

Most warlocks i fight just stand there spamming fear, if they actually moved i probs wouldn't be able to get in range before a fear came off.

Axel
26-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Hmmm ye, 40 points in Demonology gets a Felguard, I've been spending my talent points in Destruction though. I might spent 1 gold to reverse talent points though. I probably will do, I have enough money to waste on buying some weird mechanical bird even though I have a Felsteed.

Ezzie.
26-02-2007, 12:06 AM
mechostrider? LOL -.-

Axel
26-02-2007, 12:12 AM
Don't make fun of the Mechanostriders! They're so much fun compared to horses, plus they suit me (being a gnome).

mat64
26-02-2007, 04:04 PM
Dude seriously read the notes again [not trying to be offensive] our damage should've been nerfed but not that much :S they've reduced hp/armour/dps and they've even bodged up sme of our idols :S

btw i respeccd back to feral, resto is damn boring ^_^

and why can't we do as good a damage as a rogue or a healer or a tank? that's 3 different sets of specialised armour, if we bring along that armour with the specific talents then why can't we main tank? o.o

oh yeh, we have a 41/41/41 build right? ^_^

basically warriors cried nerf because they couldn't handle another class managing to tank :S

healer=priest=shaman=druid=paladin
dps=rogue=shaman=paladin=fury warrior=feral druid=mage=lock=shadowpriest
tank= warrior and pushing it a paladin.

k..


Also rogues were complaining about us druids :S did they ever hear of stunlocking and rupture kiting? a druid is helpless when being rupture kited

I still don't think the changes are going to have some massive effect on us, but thats just my personal opinion, We'll still be able to do what we do now but these changes were needed to balance things out. Again though personal opinion.

As for the subject of Warlock Vs. Druid. I've always found warlocks one of the hardest classes to defeat, If the warlock understands some of the core principles of playing a warlock then it's easy enough for them, But you can pretty much predict what a warlock is going to do every single time, Death Coil -> Fear -> DoT Stack -> Repeat as nessercery. Yet again like I had said about "Warrior free kills" it's down to skill and knowledge of your opponents moves and abilities that decides how well you do in PvP.

Crimson
26-02-2007, 09:45 PM
Hmm, just wondering at what level do you get a moonkin form?

Carlos
26-02-2007, 09:48 PM
It's a talent. Check the talent tree.

Crimson
26-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Okay, thanks.

sl4rt is banned
27-02-2007, 01:53 PM
It in the tree Balance and you learn it @ level 40 if you put all talent points up to that point in balance

Crimson
27-02-2007, 05:41 PM
D: I wish it was earlier ... lol moonkin rock!

Blinkpunx
27-02-2007, 09:50 PM
It's good you respecced resto, druids shouldn't tank kara, you need atleast 17000 health for Maiden of Virtue to go smoothly if you're a tank, and you guys aren't taking the nerf bat too bad at all =]

Ezzie.
27-02-2007, 10:37 PM
It's good you respecced resto, druids shouldn't tank kara, you need atleast 17000 health for Maiden of Virtue to go smoothly if you're a tank, and you guys aren't taking the nerf bat too bad at all =]

that's untrue. guild on our server ran all of khara and used a druid tank for all of it :) and i respeccd back to feral, druids don't have to heal, we can be good at healing/tanking/dps IF we have the armour and spec for it

Ezzie.
28-02-2007, 02:13 AM
Hmm good link to look at:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79201564&sid=1&pageNo=1

kinda shows you the balances/slight disbalances with the nerf imo

some stuff he says though is ****** up [said he could do 40% of the groups dps- the mage/rogue/lock must've sucked -.-]

TehJoshy
28-02-2007, 02:19 AM
Shame about this druid thing really.
feral druids still pwn :P
and if you spend your talent points wisely you can dominate being a druid with both DPS & Healing ^^
Ofc is depends on your gear aswell.

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