where do u get off

[SacredDino]

ok first the whole thing with samavores and all this crud and now birdbaths and all the other stuff i dont know where you see these values cause i see the oppsite i was going for a job as a reporter andyou guys shame habbox im gonna say alex is the only true person on the team you guys are pathetic

about birdbaths habbox is saying they droped like 3-4 hc in 3 days when they are high in demand from what im seeing and are becoming more popular im not giving a report im stating a fact that habbox needs to get though their sorry little heads you guys need to shape up. im ashamed to even have ever wanted a job on this site you need to get it threw that everyone listens to you and that somthing you alreayd know YOU CONTROL THE VALUES you say omg its only a guide but ppl follow it as a bible. if habbox says somthings a certain value then its set in stone you dont get it that thats how things are now. so why dont you pay more attention to that. you cant just tell somthing to go down or somthing up for you beinifet. Not to menation the fact you have over 3million members just on the forum not including he ppl who use habbox just for the values

lastly the whole thing about undertaker "we thank him for his dedication" crud blody blody da everyone knows he got fired just say.

[J1MI]

i dont know where you see these values cause i see the oppsite

Suprisingly enough we see these values on habbo hotel. We currently have a team of 16 reporters. Thats sixteen habbo's on the hotel daily going in each trade room / casino / any hotspot for trading you can imagine, getting the most upto date values for every rare on the hotel. The current decrease in value of the birdbaths has been well documented by all the staff, and by members of the forum who send in there reports. These two reports where sent before habbox changed the value on the main site to match the value of what it was being traded for around the hotel.

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=333251
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=333253

Im not here to question the values you see around the hotel, but i know for a fact that 16 habbo's doing a more intensive job than you are going to get more accurate values.


lastly the whole thing about undertaker "we thank him for his dedication" crud blody blody da everyone knows he got fired just say.

Lastly, i'm getting pretty tired of people bringing up the -:undertaker:- situation again and again, yes he was fired, its general knowledge, we can still thank him for his dedication. There's no rule against thanking someone for the hard work that they have done.

[SacredDino]

first off: Im not defending undertaker i could care less but still

second off: about the whole 16 reporters blody yaddy ya when a furni drops drasticly in 1-2 days people freak out and sell for lower hence the rise of samavors from 3hc - 25hc in 2 days back down to 4hc in the a couple more days bloodly hell get things straight undertaker fixed it but when evertyone found out about undertaker ppl where unsure and decided to hang on to it then sierk goes and decids to change the alue to 12hc ... then they just decided they are going bk to where htey where. also with those 16 reporters and u accusing me they spend way more tiem then me. when i was going for my job i was spending hours at a time towards that
ask proffesor-alex i talked to him about it

[J1MI]

I don't want to get into an arguement here.

I wasn't accusing you of spending less time than them, its just a fact that 16 people can do a better job than one person. Especialy with the system we use in collating the data.

I'm not going to comment on the situation with samova's again because there is enough debate on this topic in the forum for you to read all day long.

I really think you should just calm down, and not throw a hissy fit everytime a rare drops a couple of hc's in value, please try and remember these values are the publics values, you decide what they are, we don't. We just report what we see on the hotel.

[Jazza]

first off: Im not defending undertaker i could care less but still

second off: about the whole 16 reporters blody yaddy ya when a furni drops drasticly in 1-2 days people freak out and sell for lower hence the rise of samavors from 3hc - 25hc in 2 days back down to 4hc in the a couple more days bloodly hell get things straight undertaker fixed it but when evertyone found out about undertaker ppl where unsure and decided to hang on to it then sierk goes and decids to change the alue to 12hc ... then they just decided they are going bk to where htey where. also with those 16 reporters and u accusing me they spend way more tiem then me. when i was going for my job i was spending hours at a time towards that
ask proffesor-alex i talked to him about it

It still doesn't matter, If all 16 reporters do half an hour a day, you would have to do 8 hours just to be equal with the time we spend on habbo. The fact is we can ewasily collect more values than you.

[SacredDino]

i spent all day one day and saw it all rising not lowering and this had nothing to do with him fixing the values they where rising anyways

also your still not getting it what im saying is that if you ask anyone whos a re hardcore trader they will say they dont use habbox because its for noobs or they make up values and what it looks like its true also did u relize after all the stuff that went ont here where riots RIOTS over a fan site for a game i mean lol ***. im asking you to listne to me for one seconds why dont you compleatly shut down the rare values section for awhile and see what happens. Im telling you you will be suprised im also all im hearing is somone wierd jerk defending himself and habbox i fregin defended habbox and then you guys go and mess up

Edited by J1MI (Super Moderator) - Please don't insult other forum members.

[nvrspk4]

So basically you're saying you know more than the consensus of 16 people who devote a lot of time to this and have vast experience in this field because you saw people trading for it.


ok first the whole thing with samavores and all this crud and now birdbaths and all the other stuff i dont know where you see these values cause i see the oppsite i was going for a job as a reporter andyou guys shame habbox im gonna say alex is the only true person on the team you guys are pathetic

You have to remember that demand doesn't necessarily create higher prices. Demand could come at a lower price, credits dropped an HC even though they're in huge demand, I don't see anybody moaning.


about birdbaths habbox is saying they droped like 3-4 hc in 3 days when they are high in demand from what im seeing and are becoming more popular im not giving a report im stating a fact that habbox needs to get though their sorry little heads you guys need to shape up.

No offense intended but we aren't exactly going to lose out on you not being on the team if you hate us :P We realize that not everybody will like us, we try to explain the facts but irrational people like you decide to denounce us publicly and attack us vehemently as possible because you lost a few HCs on the rare. Would I be right in guessing you have one? Also, we apologize for not having the brainwashing and mind control powers you think we have, because if we had the mind control powers you accuse us of exerting over the trading community, we would instill in them that Habbox is a guide, not a bible. We cannot help if people ignore the fact that Habbox is a guide. If they want to make Habbox their Bible we can't exactly sue them can we. Also, we have just over 3 million posts we have around 26,000 members o.O


im ashamed to even have ever wanted a job on this site you need to get it threw that everyone listens to you and that somthing you alreayd know YOU CONTROL THE VALUES you say omg its only a guide but ppl follow it as a bible. if habbox says somthings a certain value then its set in stone you dont get it that thats how things are now. so why dont you pay more attention to that. you cant just tell somthing to go down or somthing up for you beinifet. Not to menation the fact you have over 3million members just on the forum not including he ppl who use habbox just for the values

Well we apologize for being civil and thanking someone who worked hard for all the effort he put in. Because I know none of us would want ever to be thanked or recognized for whatever we did :)


lastly the whole thing about undertaker "we thank him for his dedication" crud blody blody da everyone knows he got fired just say.

It happens in the real world too. Take the stock market, when things start going down do people not sell for less and less and the market spins out of control and goes into a crash? Does the NASDAQ or the NYSE (or whatever the London Stock Exchange is) decide to set the prices up just because lowering them could create a crash? No, because people are paying less. If we didn't lower it when we saw that people were paying less and kept it fixed so that it wouldn't go down, then we would be fixing the values.


second off: about the whole 16 reporters blody yaddy ya when a furni drops drasticly in 1-2 days people freak out and sell for lower hence the rise of samavors from 3hc - 25hc in 2 days back down to 4hc in the a couple more days

When Undertaker "fixed" it people were accusing Habbox of "SKEM SKEM YOU PROBZ HAVE ROOMZ OF SAMOVARS HIDDEN SOMEWHERE OMGZ SKEM!!!" I would hardly say it was the right decision, large scale protests hardly denote a good decision. Since I cannot personally comment on the trading situation that day, I will not be the one to call Undertaker's decision right or wrong, as it is not my place to, but saying that he "got it right" is going a bit far.


bloodly hell get things straight undertaker fixed it but when evertyone found out about undertaker ppl where unsure and decided to hang on to it then sierk goes and decids to change the alue to 12hc ... then they just decided they are going bk to where htey where.

Well each reporter spends about 1/2 an hour to an hour on Habbo checking out these values, some may spend up to 2-3 hours, maybe more. Lets average it at one hour per reporter. 16 hours of reporting from them, from one person would be 16 straight hours of Habbo. Not only would I worry about your health, but considering you would be in school for 6-7 hours, I would worry about the sleep that you're getting since 16 + 6/7 is 22/23 which means you only get one or two hours of sleep and haven't eaten all day. So I doubt you do more than our dedicated RVRs though you may do a lot for one person :)


also with those 16 reporters and u accusing me they spend way more tiem then me. when i was going for my job i was spending hours at a time towards that
ask proffesor-alex i talked to him about it


Anything else?

[SacredDino]

you want me to continue lol why not

ok well first like i said in my last comment that all your doing is defending yourself you at it again

2nd like ive said and your still not understading is that im talking about the people who accually are traders do not see it for that.

3rd ty for the infractions jimi i dont care

4th you telling me that im a ignorant fool who knows nothing which is untrue seeing as ive played habbo since 03

5th your concerend about my health well first off i never siad 16 hrs 2nd it was on a weekend and i was sick so i couldn;t do anything and 3rd why do u care

6th i never said you where not knowing what your doing im saying your making it look that way and people are saying you are noobs

7th why are u so mean

8th oh yah i never had any of the furnis it just made me mad

[nvrspk4]

ok well first like i said in my last comment that all your doing is defending yourself you at it again

Well what would you rather us do? Not answer your questions and attack your character and person? What would you rather us do than "defend ourselves" and answer your criticism, do you want me to go 'UR A NUB GET OUT MA FACE!11!!!!' because I won't, I don't disrespect people like that.


2nd like ive said and your still not understading is that im talking about the people who accually are traders do not see it for that.

You seem to take it upon yourself to speak for the entire trading community, how can you know you represent everyone else's thoughts?.


3rd ty for the infractions jimi i dont care

I don't think he gave it for the purpose of upsetting you, he was just doing his job.


4th you telling me that im a ignorant fool who knows nothing which is untrue seeing as ive played habbo since 03

Firstly, I'd like you to point out where I called you an "ignorant fool" and just because you've been playing since '03 doesn't mean you know everything. I've met people who joined 6 months ago who are less of noobs and more knowledgeable than people who played since '01. Not to say that you don't know a lot, just saying that your being here since '03 doesn't make you an auto-expert :P


5th your concerend about my health well first off i never siad 16 hrs 2nd it was on a weekend and i was sick so i couldn;t do anything and 3rd why do u care

I was merely making my point and thanks, you validated it. There is no way you singlehandedly could do the work our 16 RVRs do, and you admitted it just there.


6th i never said you where not knowing what your doing im saying your making it look that way and people are saying you are noobs

Right this is getting a bit repetitive. I only see you calling us noobs in all honesty. Some people won't like us, and we are not going to whip them until they do. No matter who it is in the world, I can guarantee you there will be someone against them. For god's sake, Mother Teresa has critics. God has critics. Nobody is going to be without critics. Regardless, I don't see "You guys are pathetic" and "sorry little heads you guys need to shape up" as comments not saying that we don't know what we're doing.


7th why are u so mean
Err considering you insulted some people who work very hard I would see meanness as justified, though I tried my best not to be and just was a little blunt with my replies.

Oh yeah and in regards to your previous post:


also your still not getting it what im saying is that if you ask anyone whos a re hardcore trader they will say they dont use habbox because its for noobs or they make up values

Which is why the most popular trade room has Habbox in the description :)


and what it looks like its true also did u relize after all the stuff that went ont here where riots RIOTS over a fan site for a game i mean lol ***.

Do you want us to break out the riot gear? :P We couldn't really stop them.


im asking you to listne to me for one seconds why dont you compleatly shut down the rare values section for awhile and see what happens.

No offense, you just talked about riots, if Habbox went down there would be so many riots left and right. Also, what would happen is some other site, that was a little more biased would step in and take over rare values. We wouldn't just "shut down" because we wouldn't know what the consequences would be or whether they would be good or bad.


Im telling you you will be suprised im also all im hearing is somone wierd jerk defending himself and habbox i fregin defended habbox and then you guys go and mess up

If you can show us rock solid proof that whatever you predict is going to happen (what are you predicting btw?) we might listen a little more, however what you're saying now is "Shut down your RVs, I won't tell you what will happen, but it'll surprise you." which isn't really reassuring to us :P Also, I hardly call calling a RVR staff a "wierd jerk" and saying that "habbox needs to get though their sorry little heads you guys need to shape up" defending Habbox.

Anyway

[SacredDino]

wow you still dont get it do you i dont even care anymore in time you will relize i was right and you guys where wrong prolly not for a long time after you quit habbox or whatever

[The Professor]

first off: Im not defending undertaker i could care less but still

second off: about the whole 16 reporters blody yaddy ya when a furni drops drasticly in 1-2 days people freak out and sell for lower hence the rise of samavors from 3hc - 25hc in 2 days back down to 4hc in the a couple more days bloodly hell get things straight undertaker fixed it but when evertyone found out about undertaker ppl where unsure and decided to hang on to it then sierk goes and decids to change the alue to 12hc ... then they just decided they are going bk to where htey where. also with those 16 reporters and u accusing me they spend way more tiem then me. when i was going for my job i was spending hours at a time towards that
ask proffesor-alex i talked to him about it

Im surprised I missed this thread, I usually check all threads in here. But here goes anyway:

When I spoke to you on that night, I expressed my opinion that I do not believe he should have been fired because he did not deliberately influence values. You did explain how you had been on for several hours that day, but events make things happen instantly. The incident involving the samovar being taken off the rare values page shook the value madly that day, everyone was scared about what would happen to it and were consequently selling theirs. As the demand was low, sierk had trouble selling his samovars, which was reflected in the maximum price he managed to get for them in the end.

Small correction: 2 "s" one "f" ;)

[Jazza]

wow you still dont get it do you i dont even care anymore in time you will relize i was right and you guys where wrong prolly not for a long time after you quit habbox or whatever

Rare values fluctuate a lot, At some points they will be high and others low. It is no longer a question of right and wrong, it appears that you are fighting just for the sake of it.

[SacredDino]

seeing as i didn;t have sammys or holos your not understanding the complaint here so DROP IT i just wont go on habbox cause obviously everyoen thinsk i should go kill myself

[Actor]

wow you still dont get it do you i dont even care anymore in time you will relize i was right and you guys where wrong prolly not for a long time after you quit habbox or whatever

If you don't care then don't post.Our values are what we see. HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE SAY THIS!

If you don't like the values then do not use them.

Yes we are a guide, and i do understand that alot of people use habbox guide values as a bible, but thats there choice. Surley if they didnt beleive the values were accurate they would not use them, would they?

You need to grow up. Just because a couple of values arent what you want them to be theres no need to throw all your toys out the pram.

You may have seen some items of furni trade for more or less than the habbox price BUT we see alot more items of furni than you being traded, therefor we get alot more prices, these prices are then averaged out.

So stop crying and realise that our values are a guide, use them if you want and dont use them if you dont want to.

[The Professor]

seeing as i didn;t have sammys or holos your not understanding the complaint here so DROP IT i just wont go on habbox cause obviously everyoen thinsk i should go kill myself

If it makes you stop with these pointless arguments go for it. Im not sure why youre telling us to drop it when you brought it up in the first place.

[Jazza]

seeing as i didn;t have sammys or holos your not understanding the complaint here so DROP IT i just wont go on habbox cause obviously everyoen thinsk i should go kill myself

Emotional blackmail only works with people that know you ;)

[SacredDino]

wow YOU STILL DONT GET IT IM SAYING IF HABBOX SAYS ITS ACERTAIN PRICE YOU HAVE TO G0O BY IT CAUSE THATS WHAT THE HOTEL FOLLOWS U KNOW IT SO U CAN DO WHATEVER U WANT AND I BELEIVE YOU DO SO STOP TRYING TO DEFEND YOUR SELF AND BEING REDUNDENT

[The Professor]

Emotional blackmail only works with people that know you ;)

Or people that actually believe it. The amount of emos that i know of makes me not take it seriously at all ;)


wow YOU STILL DONT GET IT IM SAYING IF HABBOX SAYS ITS ACERTAIN PRICE YOU HAVE TO G0O BY IT CAUSE THATS WHAT THE HOTEL FOLLOWS U KNOW IT SO U CAN DO WHATEVER U WANT AND I BELEIVE YOU DO SO STOP TRYING TO DEFEND YOUR SELF AND BEING REDUNDENT

That's true, and it is our responsibility that we get accurate prices, which is why we do. We are as surprised as you are by sudden jumps in price, but we still report it because it is accurate.

As a side note: If you are made redundant your job no longer exists and you no longer have any work. I dont see how we are redundant.

As a second side note: If youre making an accusation, how can you not expect us to defend ourself?

[SacredDino]

its not an accusations its a problem i want fixed like maby being more careful with the values

[Jazza]

What do you mean be more careful with the values? If you had an idea on how the way rare values are recorded then you wouldn't even need to question it.

[SacredDino]

yes i do and also I just wanna say ty to sierk hes the only person who ive talked to who hasn't defended habbox once he told me what to do and how to fix el problemo so ty to him

[Jazza]

I assume you think the problem is that people take our values too seriously, so how can you fix that?

[Actor]

Btw SacredDino

This is a ONLINE GAME
You know.. one of them things that are not really that important LOL

[SacredDino]

how about you guys stop saying im dumb stop making thigns up and start being more careful and look a little longer with values.