ouija boards..

[Decapitated!]

Anyone know how to make them ive done one before and it went fine but i dident make it...

[Jazza]

Why? They are fake anyway

[Decapitated!]

Why? They are fake anyway


pmsl there not fake..

[brandon]

They're fake, it's about as real as most haunted when there's a bang on the door and OMG IT'S A GHOST

[Jazza]

Of course it's fake, I saw a show where they did a oiuja board and it worked and all then they blindfolded all the people and the words were garbled. Coincidence?

[Decapitated!]

jesus there not fake have any of you actually tryed them ? im guessing no.

[splatttt]

I dont go near anything like that
:]
its dodgy

[Jazza]

This thread is pointless. They are fake, end of

[OMGitsaROSS]

I have and it is so fake lol.

But to make it tis simple

You need;
Cardboard
Marker Pen
Glass

On the carboard write in a semi-circle or circle the alphabet. In the middle put Hi, Bye, Yes, No


Put the glass in the middle et voila.

[cocaine]

whats an ouija board rofl?

[Jazza]

Its a board that came out in the 60s and you can apparently contact the dead with them. lol

[cocaine]

you can apparently contact the dead with them. lol

i can tell straight away that its fake then rofl.

[Nemo]

some1 show a pic of it.. sounds like a load of stupidness

[OMGitsaROSS]

:@ Read above :S

[brandon]

Of course it's fake, I saw a show where they did a oiuja board and it worked and all then they blindfolded all the people and the words were garbled. Coincidence?
Yeah something to do with the eyes that makes you see this mysterious glass move to the letters or whatever. It's pretty pathetic, I know what it's about and if I tried it I'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

[Fran]

I d'no if they work or not, I don't touch them.

[Jazza]

some1 show a pic of it.. sounds like a load of stupidness


http://www.augustinespiritualgoods.com/ouija%20board%20web.jpg

[splatttt]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o205/x_Imagination_x/ouija.jpg

[louder]

i've done one before, but i'm convinced the person i did it with was moving it.

[omgDAN!]

it's not fake.
and you can't say it's fake if you've never tried one.

your probably scared of spirits if you blank yourself from it and say it is NOT REAL.

and for a member of staff to say that this thread is pointless and stupid is bad.

[uh huh her]

it's not fake.
and you can't say it's fake if you've never tried one.

your probably scared of spirits if you blank yourself from it and say it is NOT REAL.

and for a member of staff to say that this thread is pointless and stupid is bad.whoa it's DAN.
anyway, i don't really know if they're real or not, theres no real evidence to prove they are or they aren't.

[Jazza]

The second there is sufficient evidene to prove they are real, they aren't in my opinion. I am entitles to my opinion and rank has nothing to do with it.

[samsaBEAR]

i doubt very much that they work, but seen as i have never tried one, i cant really say otherwise either.

[Mentor]

Well
A) there not real.
B) i have tryed them.
C) if you have tryed them, youd probably notice, that many candles around it is just gona set you on fire.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Of course they are fake, all this crap is fake.

"OMG OMG DERE IZ A GOHST TALKIN TO ME" - Yeah right.

[clarissa !!]

me & my sister did it once and it didnt work

[today]

my school went mad on 'um the goths was lyke OMG ITS REAL A GHOSTTT!111 so we took the pee 'n kept sayin "LYKE OMGGZZ ITS A DEAD WALKIN CARROT" was fun.

No i dont think its real

[Carlos]

There is a simple but intriguing explanation for how the ouija board works. Those of you who prefer to believe that spirits move the glass are welcome to your beliefs, but the actual principle behind it is not speculative.

The answer lies in a principle called 'ideomotor movement'.

The principle works like this. If you focus on the idea of making a movement, you will likely end up making a similar tiny movement without realizing it. If, undistracted, you concentrate on the idea of your hand becoming light, you'll eventually find that you make tiny unconscious movements to lift it.

So, while you may be consciously aware that these movements are happening, you are not aware that you are causing them.

How is it possible for people to move a table around without realizing? Surely it is less fantastical to accept a spiritual explanation? Not at all.

If a few people are convinced that the table will move (thats the skill: convincing them that it will happen), they will after a while begin to unconsciously to push it.

[cocaine]

There is a simple but intriguing explanation for how the ouija board works. Those of you who prefer to believe that spirits move the glass are welcome to your beliefs, but the actual principle behind it is not speculative.

The answer lies in a principle called 'ideomotor movement'.

The principle works like this. If you focus on the idea of making a movement, you will likely end up making a similar tiny movement without realizing it. If, undistracted, you concentrate on the idea of your hand becoming light, you'll eventually find that you make tiny unconscious movements to lift it.

So, while you may be consciously aware that these movements are happening, you are not aware that you are causing them.

How is it possible for people to move a table around without realizing? Surely it is less fantastical to accept a spiritual explanation? Not at all.

If a few people are convinced that the table will move (thats the skill: convincing them that it will happen), they will after a while begin to unconsciously to push it.

yeah, like i say that if you believe in ghosts, you'll see one, and if you dont, then you wont see one.

i think its similar.

[FlyingJesus]

If these boards only came out in the 60s then how could they possibly have deep spiritual meaning and roots?

[Blissa]

Ouija boards are entirely real. I have done several in a Paranormal Investigations premises and all have worked successfully, and yes we were blindfolded and the words were spelt correctly. The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's. People believed it to be a 'Third eye into the gateway of the second life' and some people were accused of Witchcraft because of it during the 1600's particularly in Britain and Europe In Africa they were called Voodoo's and were also known for their well known 'Voodoo dolls'.

If you have done Ouija boards that perhaps haven't worked, or words haven't been spelt correctly, there are a possibility of two explinations to link the occurrance:

1. Others around you were being immature and deliberately moving the Glass to cause words to be spelt incorrectly, or perhaps the Spirit was un-educated depending what era they came from, as you may know Education was very limited throughout the 1600's-1700's, the revolution boomed in the 1800's with the recent Industrial Revolution.

2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.

Who is to say that Spirits do not exist? When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.

When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time. You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.

So what is to say this isn't real? How do we have the right to say it isn't real? Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.

[samsaBEAR]

bliss=habbox's resident ouija board specialist

[Blissa]

bliss=habbox's resident ouija board specialist

lol. :P

[Mentor]

There is a simple but intriguing explanation for how the ouija board works. Those of you who prefer to believe that spirits move the glass are welcome to your beliefs, but the actual principle behind it is not speculative.

The answer lies in a principle called 'ideomotor movement'.

The principle works like this. If you focus on the idea of making a movement, you will likely end up making a similar tiny movement without realizing it. If, undistracted, you concentrate on the idea of your hand becoming light, you'll eventually find that you make tiny unconscious movements to lift it.

So, while you may be consciously aware that these movements are happening, you are not aware that you are causing them.

How is it possible for people to move a table around without realizing? Surely it is less fantastical to accept a spiritual explanation? Not at all.

If a few people are convinced that the table will move (thats the skill: convincing them that it will happen), they will after a while begin to unconsciously to push it.
Ive always put it down more to an example of group consciousness, equally exsamplifed by a mexican wave or chant at a football game. The exspectaion of somthing to happen, or the will causes us to exsert small amounts of pressure on it, not enough to move it, when 2 peoples thoughs are the same, which probablty says they will be in such circumstances multiple tiny amounts of pressure can then move the glass, once it moves other peoples fingers will follow and carry the momenetum.
Hence why it works alot better the more people you have doing it.

[Carlos]

Ouija boards are entirely real.



Maybe they are, maybe they're not.

[Sevenoaks]

Yes they are real, I played one once and woke up the next day with a hangover. Creepy isn't it?

HAHA :D

[Sevenoaks]

Its all abit stupid as everyone has their own opinion and lets face it, They are entitled to it too. The only people that know whether or not it is real are the people that have actually played it.

If you want the truth then go and have a game! I would not recommend it, But its entirely up to you.

This is why its a bad idea from my opinion:
Your medaling with petty things you don't want to get involved in, Jesus don't you pepole watch horror movies? Don't play the game children, Especially if your male in which case in every horror movie your bound to be butchered like sheep.

Have a nice day!

Edited by J1MI (Super Moderator) - Please don't double post within the editing time.

[brandon]

why do you say play it like it's a game, it's not like bloody jumanji.

[asher_]

Ouija boards are entirely real. I have done several in a Paranormal Investigations premises and all have worked successfully, and yes we were blindfolded and the words were spelt correctly. The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's. People believed it to be a 'Third eye into the gateway of the second life' and some people were accused of Witchcraft because of it during the 1600's particularly in Britain and Europe In Africa they were called Voodoo's and were also known for their well known 'Voodoo dolls'.

If you have done Ouija boards that perhaps haven't worked, or words haven't been spelt correctly, there are a possibility of two explinations to link the occurrance:

1. Others around you were being immature and deliberately moving the Glass to cause words to be spelt incorrectly, or perhaps the Spirit was un-educated depending what era they came from, as you may know Education was very limited throughout the 1600's-1700's, the revolution boomed in the 1800's with the recent Industrial Revolution.

2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.

Who is to say that Spirits do not exist? When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.

When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time. You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.

So what is to say this isn't real? How do we have the right to say it isn't real? Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.

it's all a bunch of hocus pocus

yep.

[Caution]

i thought this was about forum software with the "boards" in it.:rolleyes:

&they're creepy.

[summer]

my mates wanted to try one. i would try it, but mainly just out of curiosity to see whether they rly work.

[Mentor]

Ouija boards are entirely real. I have done several in a Paranormal Investigations premises and all have worked successfully, and yes we were blindfolded and the words were spelt correctly.
You have done investigations? now how real were these investigations? did they work on the princibles of the scientific method, or did you just throw a bunch of people in a room, and decided afterwards what counted as a success and failure?
How exsactly do you do an exsperment on the medium of a human anyhow? where hardly the easyest subject to work of, phycologists have been working for 100s of years on it, none have come close to actaly being able to make valid prediction, indervidual differences are the constant obstical. Im doubtful this taken in to account how much validty can be applued to your "investigations"


The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's. People believed it to be a 'Third eye into the gateway of the second life' and some people were accused of Witchcraft because of it during the 1600's particularly in Britain and Europe In Africa they were called Voodoo's and were also known for their well known 'Voodoo dolls'.
Ansestorworship has been around for 1000s of years, i dont see how this summery of the history can add to take away from claims realteing to validty of what they show?


If you have done Ouija boards that perhaps haven't worked, or words haven't been spelt correctly, there are a possibility of two explinations to link the occurrance:

1. Others around you were being immature and deliberately moving the Glass to cause words to be spelt incorrectly, or perhaps the Spirit was un-educated depending what era they came from, as you may know Education was very limited throughout the 1600's-1700's, the revolution boomed in the 1800's with the recent Industrial Revolution.

Wired how they all seem to speak your language though? out of all the people in the world, and that over the 10's of 1000s of years humans have been around, they all seem to be able to use an alphabetic language ?


2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.
So how do you know this about spirts? did they tell you threw the board or is this just unfounded speculation ?

Plus takeing a duelist definition of a spirt/sole/mind, how can somthing lacking extention be assinged a termpo-spacal location at all?


Who is to say that Spirits do not exist?
Near all of modern science ?

When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.
Well descartes couldn't establish duelism, i doubt you can, unless you actualy have a vaieg understanding of what mind is, or the theorys surrounding it in a co-hirent mannor, and then have an answer to the problem of mind body interaction, sole separability (hard with no exstention) or even maybe establish any film grounding for the claim a mind/sole/spirt exist at all? after all personally i believe functionalism is quite easly capable of accounting for any concept of self, consciousness, maybe with a bit of epi-phemonaliosm thrown in, and a stolen propety duelest concept of 2 level perseption, just for good measure.
If you dont know what im talking about even at this basic pursudo level, your gona need to do a bit of reading before establishing you spirt theroy, the "it is becuse i say it is arument" has little validty.



When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time.
The eletromagnetic feiled of a body is becuse most are nervous system is litraly eletric, are cells all contain tiny motors powerd by oxigen. Its not proof of your ghoasts in the machine. My light has one to, its not gona become a spirt when the bulb goes.
Plus after 10's of 1000s of years why is it only in the last 1000 or so we discover how to contact em ?


You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.
Air has no width, its not thin or fat, its a gas, stop misassiging propertys. Also your whole spirt concept has been destroyed up above.


So what is to say this isn't real?
1) Duelism doesnt work
2) multiple flaws in the concepts behind it
3) fact it has many other far more likely explinations.


How do we have the right to say it isn't real?
Freedom of speach?

Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.
1) man isnt the strongest power in the universe, in fact that makes no sence at all?
2) no it hasnt, no proof or evidence or real veridical exspernce has ever been documented, a drunk with pink eliphence has about as much evidance to support the eliphants as you do this.

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[Jazza]

I think what Bliss said is copied and pasted from somewhere and I will find it. lol

[Sevenoaks]

Nope, Actually she wrote it out.

I think some of you people don't even know what a ouija board is. Who was it who said its not Jamanji again?

Well I say this... ITS NOT FLIPPING MONOPOLY!

[Bef]

We used to do them all the time when we were kids. People used to move the glass sometimes but there was times that wer totally freaky.
We used to use scrabble letters and put them in a circle all scrambeld up and then put a glass in the middle and all touch it.
I got proper spooked out once because the "ghost" told me my full name which nobody actually knows (It's really long and i don't use alot of it)
Which was kinda un explainable.
Ther a good laugh but dont take them too seriously.

[Mentor]

Nope, Actually she wrote it out.

I think some of you people don't even know what a ouija board is. Who was it who said its not Jamanji again?

Well I say this... ITS NOT FLIPPING MONOPOLY!

Its also not a board game? o.0 whats your point.

[CustomHabbo]

In the instructions i think it says one player moves it with their fingers very slowly?

well idk bout it i was scared of it so i put it outside wen i was little haha

[FlyingJesus]

The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's.

That's really not that far through history, and could quite easily have been made up then as anyone could make up a theory right now.



2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.

As Mentor said, if something has no body then how can it encompass a certain area?


When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.

I'm pretty sure it's electrical signals and such that controls everything within us. Also note that things can move without "spirits", unless you believe that rocks and minerals have spirits too.


When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time. You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.

Air does have a thickness (sorry Mentor) as it's made up of various gases, made of various atoms etc which have small masses and whatnot. However, if spirits were this sort of thickness, then going by how many trillions of people must have died and released spirits, I'm sure they'd be able to have a right laugh by amassing their forces and smashing stuff up or something. Your argument here is heavily flawed.


So what is to say this isn't real? How do we have the right to say it isn't real? Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.

If you believe in spirits you in effect must believe in some sort of afterlife, and most likely a god of some sort.. surely that being would be more powerful than a human?

[Blissa]

By investigations I mean a group of highly intelligent individuals including members of parliament, scientists, a priest, and others. How else would you explain the glass moving and every word being spelt to the correct dictionary status? This was at an extremely large house out in the middle of the countryside where I live which used to be the home of several witches who were burnt in my back garden, so no it wasn't all jolly and yes alot of bad things did happen during the time including Paintings being removed from the walls, the table being thrown across the room and more events which I will not be mentioning on a public forum. But an excorcism was later needed. Please do not insult my intelligence by making claims of fraudery and unrealistic statements.

I never said they all speak in alphabetical language, if you read my first post correctly then you would have noticed I said alot of spirits are uneducated depending on the era they are from and the level of their education. I also haven't spoke to 10's of 1000's of spirits.

No they did not 'tell me through the board' as you so put it, I have studied this for many years and know exactly what I am talking about, you may be a scientist, or you talk like one at least in most words which I, and many other members of this forum probably can't understand. I have also had to draw in frightened spirits that are trapped in a form of risidual energy.

I generally suggest you learn how to spell the simplest of words before making a dictatorship to me. All of the investigations that have taken place are entirely proffessional and are not fraudulent. Your theory of 'A rumble in the ground from a soccer pitch to move the glass' is completely invalid and ridiculous. This is completely impossible.

It is only in the last few hundred years that we have learnt to contact them because that is when Education was put into prospects, cavemen were not educated, therefore they could not commit to things such as Ouija boards, therefore this is also why they will never contact someone through a Ouija board, so that theory of yours is also unjustified and completely ridiculous. We also are not lightbulbs, it's pathetic to make a claim of justifications between a Lightbulb and a Human organism.

Air has a high level of spectroversy in it, Air can be thin when you reach levels of High altitude such as on Mountain peaks hence the reasons for altitude sickness. Air can also be heavy stopping people from breathing sufficiently, such as deep underground and underwater, hence the reason for air canisters needed to keep the person alive for more than 5 minutes.

I'm sorry dear, but I think you'll find that my explination is completely likely, we are Spirits, and no Modern Science did not say that this is not real, infact they said it's an extremely high possibility, I have made statements of justification in my texts as you will see if you read them PROPERLY rather than SEMI-SKIMMING them with your eyes. I'm sorry but if you want to be a scientist I think you had better go back to your drawing board and re-think your future out, seriously hard.

Man is the strongest power in the Universe, and I summence to wonder why the hell you keep making references to things like Lightbulbs and Pink Elephants in referance to the Human life-form and spiritual energy, it's quite pathetic really.

[Bef]

I reckon there is some form of afterlife, i duno if theres ghosts as i have never had a ghost walk up to me and be like
"Hi bef im a ghost"
with ouija boards id say half the time its people moving the glass to freak out there friends and maybe half the time it does work. I dont know
Every time i tried it by myself nothing moved unless i was messing about.

[Sevenoaks]

It was just my opinion. I am basically saying that this guy said its not like Jumanji, but then again its not monopoly and as easy as that is it?

[asher_]

We used to do them all the time when we were kids. People used to move the glass sometimes but there was times that wer totally freaky.
We used to use scrabble letters and put them in a circle all scrambeld up and then put a glass in the middle and all touch it.
I got proper spooked out once because the "ghost" told me my full name which nobody actually knows (It's really long and i don't use alot of it)
Which was kinda un explainable.
Ther a good laugh but dont take them too seriously.

possibly you were doing it subconsciously? i don't know too much about them, but i know that's one of the theories from the skeptics.

[boyslikegirls]

they work.
i use to do them with my mates on the beach n stuff and people that died at ocean always talked to us.

[Bef]

possibly you were doing it subconsciously? i don't know too much about them, but i know that's one of the theories from the skeptics.

Cant of cos i freaked and took my hand off it and my mates carried on.

Admittedly i used to push the glass purposly to insult people ;]

[Blissa]

Hi there FlyingJesus. Thank you for your well-spelt argument in this debate :)

Yes, I agree with you it could quite possibly have been made up through theories by anyone, just as I could sit here and say I saw Madonna at a Walmart yesterday. However, I doubt historians and archaeologists would make up such a statement just for it to be recorded in a history tablet.

Your body is only a physical reformification of your Spirit, when your Body stops working then your Spirit will move on to the 'Second Life' in hence - People who often believe in Reincarnation will find this as a specific calming nature. When your Spirit moves on, who is to say it doesn't roam the physical world? We are our spirit, if we were our body there would be nothing to justify our movements, we would just quite literally be Skin and Bone, which is where the saying comes from that you may have heard: 'Youre just skin and bone' Yes it is possible that Electrical magnetisiums would send messages to your brain, but if that was a case, then turning on a Light switch would give you an automatic electric shock because you would be bolting 1000's of unwanted electrical volts into your brain at thousands of MPH. Which in some cases it does - That's called Electricution. But yes that's quite a good point you have made.

Yes I do believe in God, However, God does not influence my beliefs in any kind, I haven't made any statements of Heaven or Hell.

[PaulMacC]

You seem to know alot Bliss.

I dont want to get dragged into anything but Bliss how do you know so much and why is your stories so tragic and unrealistic?

[Blissa]

Hi there Oakenfold. :)

I suppose I know quite a bit. Everything I know has been from many years of paranormal studies and investigations, some knowledge and personal experience, my stories.. I don't think it's quite fair to call them 'Stories' because I'm not quite writing a book, (not yet anyway haha) I don't think they're unrealistic either, it depends what you believe in as an individual, you may think they sound unrealistic but infact they are completely realistic to paranormal investigators and people who study in that area of intelligence.

If you mean what I said about the Witches being burnt in my Back Garden, and living in my house. I didn't mean recently, don't worry my family aren't witch hunters who go around waving fire-sticks around on horseback chasing 'Witches' out of the Village, however this did take place about 500 years ago and my back garden does, putting modesty aside, consist of 17 Acres and was infact forestation during that time, I know this by looking at maps and historical records of the area. In fact my house is surrounded by a lot of the forestation that did exist during that period. Alot of the house was built in the Georgian era also, It's not all Tudor, but a small area of it is, the rest was built to match the main building.

The Paintings and Table going flying across the room - This was because of the amount of bad risidual energy in the room, the Paintings merely fell from the wall, this couldn't have been lose screws (and no i dont have a screw loose myself haha) because they were attatched to the wall and several fell after it. It is an often occurance in paranormal investigations that a Table will be removed from the ground and thrown, this will be often refferred to as a Poltergheist by scientific termonology.

[asher_]

Hi there Oakenfold. :)

I suppose I know quite a bit. Everything I know has been from many years of paranormal studies and investigations, some knowledge and personal experience, my stories.. I don't think it's quite fair to call them 'Stories' because I'm not quite writing a book, (not yet anyway haha) I don't think they're unrealistic either, it depends what you believe in as an individual, you may think they sound unrealistic but infact they are completely realistic to paranormal investigators and people who study in that area of intelligence.

your knowledge is flawed and you've yet to post any evidence to convince anyone otherwise.

[Blissa]

My knowledge is not flawed, my knowledge is proffessional, you may think it's flawed because you have not been in a position where Paranormal investigations or studies have taken place. In the terms of spectroversy, you clearly don't believe something until you see it, and that's completely okay! I was the same in my younger years.

I don't see how I can post evidence on a Paranormal investigation and Study that took place at a private home, if I did have a tape of it (Which I don't as I do not believe it's correct and inpartial to record something and make a mockery of a life-form) then yes I would have posted it on this forum for you all to see for yourselves, however if you look into Paranormal Studies then you too will see that it all makes sense, and is infact not flawed.

[Mentor]

By investigations I mean a group of highly intelligent individuals including members of parliament, scientists, a priest, and others. How else would you explain the glass moving and every word being spelt to the correct dictionary status? This was at an extremely large house out in the middle of the countryside where I live which used to be the home of several witches who were burnt in my back garden, so no it wasn't all jolly and yes alot of bad things did happen during the time including Paintings being removed from the walls, the table being thrown across the room and more events which I will not be mentioning on a public forum. But an excorcism was later needed. Please do not insult my intelligence by making claims of fraudery and unrealistic statements.
So you can provide a notable source to this event? please do, im pretty sure there would be some formal documentation if you managed to persuade a number of MP's scientists, priests and other people to take part.
Dispite the fact its commiting a massive authorty fallasy, and a preist if where talking Christan has just sentanced himself to hell for partakeing in the dark arts. Why an MP would join is also beoned me, and sicentist is a pretty loose term these days.
If you want me to belive this happened, please present some evidence?


I never said they all speak in alphabetical language, if you read my first post correctly then you would have noticed I said alot of spirits are uneducated depending on the era they are from and the level of their education. I also haven't spoke to 10's of 1000's of spirits.
not being able to write in english is not uneducated, polish, french, turkish, latin and prettyy much any other lanuage you wish to add are all equaly valid, and in most cases more likley, ejipt was around far longer than any english speaking countarys have ever been? statisticaly, we would probably have about 1% at best able to speak english at all?


No they did not 'tell me through the board' as you so put it, I have studied this for many years and know exactly what I am talking about, you may be a scientist, or you talk like one at least in most words which I, and many other members of this forum probably can't understand. I have also had to draw in frightened spirits that are trapped in a form of risidual energy.
Studied? how exsactly do you study something none exstented? with no factual, concise or objective information relating to the subject?

This engergy is fictional, as are your spirts. There is nothing, at all, to suggest there existance, hence the assumption of it is hence tainted by that.


I generally suggest you learn how to spell the simplest of words before making a dictatorship to me. All of the investigations that have taken place are entirely proffessional and are not fraudulent. Your theory of 'A rumble in the ground from a soccer pitch to move the glass' is completely invalid and ridiculous. This is completely impossible.
This isnt a question of spelling, when people feel the need to comit to an ad homen fallsasy, you can usealy tell there unable to defned there claims against your own points. Spelling is an exsample of this.
Its then strengthened by the fact your responding to the questions of you "experiments" again, as opposed to any later made points of mine.

Secondly you completely missed the point of my previous exsample. The football exsample was simply an illstraion of group concusness, the fact everyone joins in at the right time, when iniated, people think alike when in proximity due to the simlartys of exspernace in them and are subcousnless reading of behavoral signals.
Now in the ouiga board exsample, there are two points, people touch the glass with the tip of the finger, this allows them to exsert force, aka push, but not pull without looseing contact with the glass, hence its immpossible for any one person to be able to utalise all the letters due to there circular arrangement, when someone accidnlty makes a sight push, for a lean of simple jog of the arm, this tiny bit of momentum is amplifed, since others who feel it immidlty stop resiting and try to follow any motion, so a slight flinch can easly result in motion, multiple peoples contributions to this, much on a subcousless level when done properly, and with a number of people, then allow the glass to move to letters, the letters are at first random, once a letter has been hit, the causal linking we innatly hold causes us to guess and exsepect the next letter, the glass speeds up, a sence is built by what the majorty of the group is exspecting to come next, and hence leaveing the least resistance to.
Hence we build up a cohirent sentnace, if people are scared, it will be something scary, if there happy, it will be somthing happy. Its all controled by the group consuioness.

This is a hypothisis formulated of my own from a small exsperence basis and is largely untested, so holds little wieght prior to any real exspermantion with proper controls and method. This is only what i think happens, im far from the postion in which i could assert this is infact what does happen.
Im not a phycologist after all.


It is only in the last few hundred years that we have learnt to contact them because that is when Education was put into prospects, cavemen were not educated, therefore they could not commit to things such as Ouija boards, therefore this is also why they will never contact someone through a Ouija board, so that theory of yours is also unjustified and completely ridiculous.
So again, nearly all spirts wouldnt know english, makeing near all inncounters usless and unproductive? this doesnt fit with the success rate claims?

Seconldy, education is not the foundation of language, that was around long before formal education, even in writeing forms, the larger a population the larger its need for effecnsy to utilase highly skilled members in one aria, instead of lesser more general skills in all. Hence we get teaching and form education.

Education does not equal leanring english.


We also are not lightbulbs, it's pathetic to make a claim of justifications between a Lightbulb and a Human organism.
You seem to be unable to grasp the concept of illstraive exsamples? i take it you dont do well with poetry o.0

The aura of a person is put down to the eltetric field, humans and lighbulbs both have one. If your claiming the sole/spirt is the aura, then a lightbulb must also have a sole/spirt.

That in no ways is makeing a claim that would suggest humans are lighbulbs, only lighbulbs also have soles, which is the claim you indrectly made, and which i was exposeeing as being kinda stupid.


Air has a high level of spectroversy in it, Air can be thin when you reach levels of High altitude such as on Mountain peaks hence the reasons for altitude sickness.
Thin as theres no much off, it, not thin in size, a better would would be scarese, or less dence "/


Air can also be heavy stopping people from breathing sufficiently, such as deep underground and underwater, hence the reason for air canisters needed to keep the person alive for more than 5 minutes.
Underwater its more due to the fact water is somewhat hevery than air, air is inflating your lungs, air squashers more than water, and are lungs getting squashed aint a good thing.
Air dencey is little to do with it, although higher graviational forces aint particaly good for us.


I'm sorry dear, but I think you'll find that my explination is completely likely, we are Spirits, and no Modern Science did not say that this is not real, infact they said it's an extremely high possibility, I have made statements of justification in my texts as you will see if you read them PROPERLY rather than SEMI-SKIMMING them with your eyes. I'm sorry but if you want to be a scientist I think you had better go back to your drawing board and re-think your future out, seriously hard.
Philopshy and science deal with differnt arias, your entering a philosophical aria and im offering information from the knwolage sourse, yet your seemingly obssesed with me being a scientist? your confusieng your disaplins.

No actualy offer some texts, even a single proof that mind and body are sperate or seperable? Descartes's offered 4, and his diddnt stand up? how can you claim to have a justifed belife if you cant offer one? a single logical proof?


Man is the strongest power in the Universe, and I summence to wonder why the hell you keep making references to things like Lightbulbs and Pink Elephants in referance to the Human life-form and spiritual energy, it's quite pathetic really.
Whats pathetic is your abilty to actualy understand such basic princibles, now stop pooring on the ad hominm in an attempt to cover your own ignorance and get back on topic.

You have NO PROOF OF SPIRTUAL ENGERY.
You have NO PROOF OF A SOLE.
the point was a dunk has just as much proof as you do for pink eliphants (more in fact), than you do for this.
So offer some basic reasoning, or eveidance, or i cant take you seriously.

[Blissa]

I refuse to read your essay Entor, I have better things to do ;) You also can't spell so I'm not going to bother arguing with you anymore as you have asked every question that I have already answered, now go and read things properly and provide me with a shorter version of your explinations minus the made up words and phrases that you seem to be so fond of because you think they make you look somewhat intelligent. Sorry sweet heart, but I think you need to go away and re-schedule your intelligence ratio.

[Mentor]

I refuse to read your essay Entor, I have better things to do ;) You also can't spell so I'm not going to bother arguing with you anymore.
The refusal to answer and bad get out clause are a good indicator im right and your to big headed to admit defeat :)
>You cannot offer a single peace of valid logical reasoning backing up your duelist claim.
>You cannot offer any proof this study you speak so highly of actually exists. I think you made it up.
>Your arguments all consist of "it is because i say so" you provide no reasoning, evidence or real knowledge of what your talking about.


Edited, in answer to edit.
Accusing people of making up words because you have such a tiny vocabulary's just makes you look stupid, not me.
Your only way to attack me, since your to dumb to attack my argument seems to be attacking my spelling? unluckly spelling has no link to intelligence, stupidity and ignorance as you demonstrated in your posts, does.
lol@your claim to be a professional.

[Blissa]

Excuse me dear, you're a hypocrite. My statements aren't "Because I say so" as you so put it. And I *DO* know what I am talking about, you clearly don't. Alot of people on this forum do, you obviously have a smaller amount of brain organisms than a dead slug if you honestly think that I'm backing up because you think I know youre right.

Hardly anything you have said makes a word of sense and I have already answered most of your questions. People like you frustrate me to the point of nauseia. If you think Paranormal Studies are subnormal then please rethink out your status on this forum because that's the biggest flaw Ive heard all night. There's a long gap between what you think to be a lie and what is a lie, dont jump it.

Spelling has no link to intelligence? What planet are you from kid? Seriously, Stupidity and Ignorance are what you are demonstrating, not what I am demonstrating, because I will not be repetative of myself does not make me stupid, or for that matter Ignorant, so do not frustrate me because you are generally getting me rather stressed out right now, you know nothing because you obviously haven't studied and are speaking on what you think to be true and what is true, please leave me alone because I am warning you now kid this will turn into a huge argument and a slanging match and I really don't want that when I've had such a nice day. Learn to spell.

[Xuggle]

This girl in my old school did one. She got a bruise saying "12" on her leg and she said at 12 midnight and 12 in the afternoon, she would get a pain and cry. I laughed. Then, at lunch, 12 o clock, she started bawling. Everybody was freaked, and she had to see a priest.

After that, my dumb witted friend said "hey guys, lets do a ouija board in the town cemetery" we were all like "yeah... *******".

No bull. :s Nobody knows of the after life, if there is or not.

[Mentor]

Excuse me dear, you're a hypocrite. My statements aren't "Because I say so" as you so put it. And I *DO* know what I am talking about, you clearly don't. Alot of people on this forum do, you obviously have a smaller amount of brain organisms than a dead slug if you honestly think that I'm backing up because you think I know youre right.

Hardly anything you have said makes a word of sense and I have already answered most of your questions. People like you frustrate me to the point of nauseia. If you think Paranormal Studies are subnormal then please rethink out your status on this forum because that's the biggest flaw Ive heard all night. There's a long gap between what you think to be a lie and what is a lie, dont jump it.

Pathetic child.
Well your not worth the time.

To other readers.
Proof the above is an idiot and has been talking crap the whole time. Out of the questions asked of him.

>You cannot offer a single peace of valid logical reasoning backing up your duelist claim.
>You cannot offer any proof this study you speak so highly of actually exists. I think you made it up.
>Your arguments all consist of "it is because i say so" you provide no reasoning, evidence or real knowledge of what your talking about.

He answered: Nill.

Instead he spent 2 paragraphs trying to insult me, and completely ignoreing the question or arguments put forward, as if somehow this would magically make the fact hes wrong and lieing go away.

Sorry, we live in reality, not happy floaty spirt land, go flame some people on counter strike or something.

For reference purpose's.
If i was a child. My argument would still be as valid.
If i were stupid. My argument would still be as valid.
if i were a hypocrite. My argument would still be as valid.
if i were a X. My argument would still be as valid.
(change X to what ever you like)

All that changes is how stupid you must be comparatively to someone who proved you wrong.

[womanizer]

lol I did it once with some friends and i moved the glass. they all ****** themselves

[Bef]

Bliss stop being such an ***. Mentor is extremely clever. So what if he cant spell nor could albert einstein.

[Xuggle]

I think Bliss maybe right, stuff is there.

However, I'm with mentor. Why did he or she join just to post this? And why make your posts so fake "Hi name :) yes i am a professional and have nothing to do".

And making spelling mistakes doesn't matter.

[Blissa]

Excuse me honey, I'm a girl. Okay? ;) the logical reasoning behind my 'duelist' claims as you keep saying, are the studies I have part-took in. When I say studies I mean proffessional studies, not prancing about like an idiot yelling what I believe to be true without any substancial evidence. Go to your local library and pick up some books about the Paranormal Investigations, there's your evidence of my claims right there, crystal clear.

I answered the second one, sorry are you dyslexic? Did you know all three questions you have asked there are exactly the same question in different termonology? Of course you didn't, because you're an imbocillic little adolesent. I don't play Counter strike, and I don't "Float around in the spirit world" you stupid little.. I wont say the word because I'm sure I'll be infracted.

I'm living in reality, get over the fact that you're wrong for once and stop being a hipocrite of the general natures of life. Everyone's entitled to their opinion so face it, Ok? Good boy, now run along to runescape or whatever it is you people play.

Jagz: I didn't join specifically to post on this thread, I have recently joined Habbo after being introduced to it by someone who works there.

Bef: I don't think being clever justifies what he is saying, alot of his phrases don't make a word of sense and he's just jumbled up a few words that he thinks will make him look somewhat intelligent. He's insulting my intelligence, that's something I do not tolerate under any grounds, he has his right to his opinion, but doesn't have the right to insult someone elses by saying they are based under the grounds of fradulent acts of contraversial studies and investigations.

[Bef]

Excuse me honey, I'm a girl. Okay? ;) the logical reasoning behind my 'duelist' claims as you keep saying, are the studies I have part-took in. When I say studies I mean proffessional studies, not prancing about like an idiot yelling what I believe to be true without any substancial evidence. Go to your local library and pick up some books about the Paranormal Investigations, there's your evidence of my claims right there, crystal clear.

I answered the second one, sorry are you dyslexic? Did you know all three questions you have asked there are exactly the same question in different termonology? Of course you didn't, because you're an imbocillic little adolesent. I don't play Counter strike, and I don't "Float around in the spirit world" you stupid little.. I wont say the word because I'm sure I'll be infracted.

I'm living in reality, get over the fact that you're wrong for once and stop being a hipocrite of the general natures of life. Everyone's entitled to their opinion so face it, Ok? Good boy, now run along to runescape or whatever it is you people play.

I would like to actually know how old you are as you keep talking down to everybody assuming you are older then them all.
And dyslexia certainly doesn't make people stupid you complete moron.

[Xuggle]

Excuse me honey, I'm a girl. Okay? ;) the logical reasoning behind my 'duelist' claims as you keep saying, are the studies I have part-took in. When I say studies I mean proffessional studies, not prancing about like an idiot yelling what I believe to be true without any substancial evidence. Go to your local library and pick up some books about the Paranormal Investigations, there's your evidence of my claims right there, crystal clear.

I answered the second one, sorry are you dyslexic? Did you know all three questions you have asked there are exactly the same question in different termonology? Of course you didn't, because you're an imbocillic little adolesent. I don't play Counter strike, and I don't "Float around in the spirit world" you stupid little.. I wont say the word because I'm sure I'll be infracted.

I'm living in reality, get over the fact that you're wrong for once and stop being a hipocrite of the general natures of life. Everyone's entitled to their opinion so face it, Ok? Good boy, now run along to runescape or whatever it is you people play.

Jagz: I didn't join specifically to post on this thread, I have recently joined Habbo after being introduced to it by someone who works there.

Bef: I don't think being clever justifies what he is saying, alot of his phrases don't make a word of sense and he's just jumbled up a few words that he thinks will make him look somewhat intelligent. He's insulting my intelligence, that's something I do not tolerate under any grounds, he has his right to his opinion, but doesn't have the right to insult someone elses by saying they are based under the grounds of fradulent acts of contraversial studies and investigations.

Yeah, you were introduced by Lost_Witness. :rolleyes:

And you seem to know about infractions etc, I think you're somebody else. ;)

The person with brains would stop your little fights.

You're not any better playing habbo than runescape. :rolleyes: also, stop acting like you own the place please. "good little boy run along", go find somewhere else to stick your head up your ***.

[Blissa]

I am 26. I studied Paranormal activity and theories/investigations for 11 years of my life (since I was 15) so I'm pretty sure I'll know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking down to anybody either, I'm stating the facts of my knowledge in the area of my proffession. I asked him if he was dyslexic because he wasn't reading my whole statements and instead picking tiny particles from it to insult my intelligence with.

I don't doubt that he may be incredibly bright, and if he is under the age of 18 then his intelligence is certainly impressive for his age, I'll give him that. But I just don't think it's right to insult someone elses intelligence by calling them a fraud or a hoss. Dear, please look up the meaning of moron. I don't agree with calling anyone that.

[Bef]

I am 26. I studied Paranormal activity and theories/investigations for 11 years of my life (since I was 15) so I'm pretty sure I'll know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking down to anybody either, I'm stating the facts of my knowledge in the area of my proffession. I asked him if he was dyslexic because he wasn't reading my whole statements and instead picking tiny particles from it to insult my intelligence with.

I don't doubt that he may be incredibly bright, and if he is under the age of 18 then his intelligence is certainly impressive for his age, I'll give him that. But I just don't think it's right to insult someone elses intelligence by calling them a fraud or a hoss. Dear, please look up the meaning of moron. I don't agree with calling anyone that.

In my language moron actually means carrot but what the hey.

[Mentor]

Excuse me honey, I'm a girl. Okay? ;)
And that has what to do with the debate? becuse your a girl isnt going to change you to the state of being right?


the logical reasoning behind my 'duelist' claims as you keep saying, are the studies I have part-took in. When I say studies I mean proffessional studies, not prancing about like an idiot yelling what I believe to be true without any substancial evidence. Go to your local library and pick up some books about the Paranormal Investigations, there's your evidence of my claims right there, crystal clear.
I dont class the fiction section as objective knowledge. Studys arnt logical reasoning, studys can have many factors, for all you know, an alien space ship was floating above your house and doing it to freak you out. Its just as likely.
Secondly, this "study" never happened, if it did, you would have provided evidence by now. So if your gona lie there, why should i belive any of these other studys?
Subjective exsperence <> objective knowlage.
(<> = not equal to sign in vb, ive been codeing all day)

Im asking you to provide evidance, which can be done easly by anyone who knows what there talking about.

A book list is not much use, and if you actualy read any properaly you could at least suggest a few titles /authors.


I answered the second one, sorry are you dyslexic? Did you know all three questions you have asked there are exactly the same question in different termonology? Of course you didn't, because you're an imbocillic little adolesent. I don't play Counter strike, and I don't "Float around in the spirit world" you stupid little.. I wont say the word because I'm sure I'll be infracted.
Ya im dyslexic, its funny watching people make idiots of themselves by lacking understanding of the fact spelling doesnt make an argument wrong.
Plus there not 3 questions asking the same thing.

Logical proofs of duelim.
Proof this study took place.
and a cohirnet peace of reasoning connecting them

were what i asked, i havent even got to go in to the cristisims of duelism, which i started off with, before i reasised you didnt have a clue what you were talking about.


I'm living in reality, get over the fact that you're wrong for once and stop being a hipocrite of the general natures of life. Everyone's entitled to their opinion so face it, Ok? Good boy, now run along to runescape or whatever it is you people play.
This is again "because i said so" type argument.

You haven't proven me wrong, at all, at any point, even on a minor point or contradiction, even i know ive made, you probably wont even be able to find them now ether, as the whole things probably wooshing over your head as you read.

You though have been proved wrong. Your study never took place. You lied about it.

ok? thats why im calling you a fraud and a lier.. because you lied. i would have thought it was obvious by now.

[Blissa]

No I was not introduced by Lost_Witness, I know about infractions as I owned a paranormal forum myself for people to come and discuss the natures and experiences they have had with activity. I won't tell you who I was introduced by, but we are very good friends and have been for a while.

Are you people obsessed with swearing?

[Xuggle]

I am 26. I studied Paranormal activity and theories/investigations for 11 years of my life (since I was 15) so I'm pretty sure I'll know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking down to anybody either, I'm stating the facts of my knowledge in the area of my proffession. I asked him if he was dyslexic because he wasn't reading my whole statements and instead picking tiny particles from it to insult my intelligence with.

I don't doubt that he may be incredibly bright, and if he is under the age of 18 then his intelligence is certainly impressive for his age, I'll give him that. But I just don't think it's right to insult someone elses intelligence by calling them a fraud or a hoss. Dear, please look up the meaning of moron. I don't agree with calling anyone that.

Yeah, I'm 403 years old. If you were 26, I doubt you'd be wasting your time here. :)

And yeah, reading a definition, doesn't seem good, but people use it as "idiot", not somebody whos mind stops at 8 years.

You were introduced by -xoxs-sexy-chik101-xox lol.

[Bef]

No I was not introduced by Lost_Witness, I know about infractions as I owned a paranormal forum myself for people to come and discuss the natures and experiences they have had with activity. I won't tell you who I was introduced by, but we are very good friends and have been for a while.

Are you people obsessed with swearing?
Whos swearing?


Yeah, I'm 403 years old. If you were 26, I doubt you'd be wasting your time here. :)

And yeah, reading a definition, doesn't seem good, but people use it as "idiot", not somebody whos mind stops at 8 years.

Iv always just used moron as a messing round insult.
I wasn't kidding when i said in my language it means carrot
Look it up :o

[Blissa]

Two things Entor. Im not going to argue with the rest as we could go around in circles all night and I have to be off to bed in a short while.

- I made the point of me being a girl because you kept refferring to me as 'him' and 'he' in one of your previous postings.

- I don't think you have the right to tell me wether or not the studies took place, because I spent 11 years of my life time studying it, you can go to your local library and read factual books if you want the evidence, as Ive said in previous posts if I had a video then I'd post it but it's almost impossible to refer to evidence in paranormal investigations in the proffessional state. I promise you that.

[Blissa]

Jagz, I find that incredibly ageist.
Bef, I can see stars which are usually removed words - being offencive.

Edited by J1MI (Super Moderator) - Please don't double post.

[Bef]

Two things Entor. Im not going to argue with the rest as we could go around in circles all night and I have to be off to bed in a short while.

Because you tried to be clever and i proved your a moron?

[Blissa]

The last time I looked, I wasn't a carrot Bef :P lol. I just hope I haven't made any enemies on this forum as I hate doing that and it seriously isn't in my nature, so I'd like to publicly apologise to Entor, I think both of our substancial debates are on two beliefs, that of the person who studies the paranormal, and that who studies the termonology of scientific prospection.

[Mentor]

Two things Entor. Im not going to argue with the rest as we could go around in circles all night and I have to be off to bed in a short while.

- I made the point of me being a girl because you kept refferring to me as 'him' and 'he' in one of your previous postings.

- I don't think you have the right to tell me wether or not the studies took place, because I spent 11 years of my life time studying it, you can go to your local library and read factual books if you want the evidence, as Ive said in previous posts if I had a video then I'd post it but it's almost impossible to refer to evidence in paranormal investigations in the proffessional state. I promise you that.

Going to a library does not prove a study took place at your house, which included a load of MP's, Scientists and a priest.

Provide evidence that this study took place, with real MP's, scientists and priests, at your big country house.
IF people conduct a study theres evidence, at least that the study took place, if the study is not recording data, its not a study is it, its a pointless waste of time.

If you cannot you are a: fraud and Lier

[Xuggle]

Jagz, I find that incredibly ageist.
Bef, I can see stars which are usually removed words - being offencive.

Innit bub. You seemed to care for infractions, prepare for one! :) DOUBLE POST!

it means donkey. ;) not bottom. And that was by me.

[Bef]

Yehh id be intrested in viewing your paranormal site thingys and seeing what evidence you do have, like i said, i dont know if there are ghosts or not as i havnt ever had one come up to me and be like
"Hi Bef im a ghost"
But im intrested in this sort of stuff

[Blissa]

Entor, I will do my best to find you some evidence tomorrow but right now I have to go to bed. I'll pm you tomorrow after I have came across some which I'm sure I will. PS: It was only the local MP - Nothing big like tony blair or gordon brown.

I'll also PM you, Bef with the details of the Sites and my Forum, ;) I find it applaudable that you take interest in these things. It's good that you want to learn about strong possibilities of the nature of spiritual beings and paranormal investigations.

[Xuggle]

Yehh id be intrested in viewing your paranormal site thingys and seeing what evidence you do have, like i said, i dont know if there are ghosts or not as i havnt ever had one come up to me and be like
"Hi Bef im a ghost"
But im intrested in this sort of stuff

I think theres something like ghosts, but I'm not "siding" with Bliss cos shes acting like a jack *** (donkey).

BTW Bef, can you speak Welsh? I'm 1/4 welsh, I've been there and it was raining lol. :(

[Bef]

I think theres something like ghosts, but I'm not "siding" with Bliss cos shes acting like a jack *** (donkey).

BTW Bef, can you speak Welsh? I'm 1/4 welsh, I've been there and it was raining lol. :(
Not fluent fluent but im ok. Half my family speak it as there first language. Im no good at writing it mind,

[Xuggle]

Not fluent fluent but im ok. Half my family speak it as there first language. Im no good at writing it mind,

Awesome! It looks very difficult lol. Do many people speak it in Wales, like in the towns..?

[Bef]

Awesome! It looks very difficult lol. Do many people speak it in Wales, like in the towns..?
Not as a first language in south (wher i live) But they do more in other parts of Wales.
Its cumpolsory all over wales in schools though.

[Mentor]

Entor, I will do my best to find you some evidence tomorrow but right now I have to go to bed. I'll pm you tomorrow after I have came across some which I'm sure I will. PS: It was only the local MP - Nothing big like tony blair or gordon brown.

Unless your implying you local MP has a weight problem im skeptical i counts as "members of parliament" on his own.
So it already appears that much of it was a lie.


I'll also PM you, Bef with the details of the Sites and my Forum, ;) I find it applaudable that you take interest in these things. It's good that you want to learn about strong possibilities of the nature of spiritual beings and paranormal investigations.

Strong possibly is again a flawed concept, without any objective facts all that remains is a possibly. That possibly is then entirely reliant on the possibly soles can exist, dualism has been heavly debunked for a few 100 years now, so it in a straight form cannot be used to account for what is captured under the term "ghost"

It is also a contradiction to refer to such activity's as para-normal, since normal simply means the state of affairs the world is under at present, if ghosts exist, then there normal, not para-normal. Para-normal stuff becomes normal if its real, so from usage of that term you assert it is false.

All possibilities are interesting, and ghosts or what is classically falsely deemed as para-normal is one of those which takes particular attention in light of possible implications and cultural saturation. In a simlar way to theist beliefs.

Its because im interested in the subjects its so easy for me to tell when someone doesn't have a clue what the hell there rambling on about, hence why your arguments were so easly to destroy and so massively flawed. Matrealist are duelist, mind is still there (ignore elimative-matrealist for now), use it and actually think about the practical implications and problems surrounding what your talking about, and how far evidence if such claims were true would support them, and then how the lack of such evidence leaves major problems for the theory.

Your hypothesis should reflect the evidence, trying to make evidence fit the hypothesis as you are doing, simply garentees failure.

[Scouse]

i believe in it, and you can buy real ones off ebay :D

[Mentor]

i believe in it, and you can buy real ones off ebay :D

unluckly "real" ones are no more real than one you put together from a table, glass and scrabble peaces. Theres no correct Ouiga boards. And because you payed for it dosent make em real, it just makes em more expensive.

[le harry]

Sounds superstitious

[Ashley 12344]

Sounds superstitious

Thats exactly what it is, personal views and superstitions.

I've never tried, so I'm not going to say its real or not.

I believe in ghosts though, one at my Grans.

My uncle saw it, didn't saw anything, then my mum saw the exact same thing and said about it.

Some old woman in a rocking chair knitting (not my gran :P )

[myke]

my opinion is that they're not real howeverrrr. everyone's entitled to your own opinion and these people who believe in ghosts and not god it doesn't make sense, you can't see ghosts you believe in them you can't see god you don't believe in him :s

[splatttt]

Im not sure what to belive
i would never use one anyway
i think sometimes its in your mind
you make the glass move or w.e
i do think it could bringf " bad spirits " to your house thou

[Eamonn]

Ouija boards are entirely real. I have done several in a Paranormal Investigations premises and all have worked successfully, and yes we were blindfolded and the words were spelt correctly. The earliest records of Ouija boards go all the way back to the 1600's in Europe, Britain and particularly Africa but were recently re-introduced into Society in the 1900's. People believed it to be a 'Third eye into the gateway of the second life' and some people were accused of Witchcraft because of it during the 1600's particularly in Britain and Europe In Africa they were called Voodoo's and were also known for their well known 'Voodoo dolls'.

If you have done Ouija boards that perhaps haven't worked, or words haven't been spelt correctly, there are a possibility of two explinations to link the occurrance:

1. Others around you were being immature and deliberately moving the Glass to cause words to be spelt incorrectly, or perhaps the Spirit was un-educated depending what era they came from, as you may know Education was very limited throughout the 1600's-1700's, the revolution boomed in the 1800's with the recent Industrial Revolution.

2. There was no Spirit present in the area that you were, if there is a lot of negative energy then spirits may choose to stay away, just like you and I they are afraid of unwell-being and harmful natures. This is completely natural and you must remember that they were also living beings at one point just like you and I.

Who is to say that Spirits do not exist? When you pass over, your heart stops beating, but you aren't your heart. You aren't even your body, yes you may own those things but you are your Spirit. If there were no Spirits, we may as well be statues somewhere in a field, because there would be nothing there to comply with the body.

When you pass over, your spirit is released from your physical body, you can't go out and make or buy a new one so you wander around in your spiritual nature, your only way of contact is through a Ouija Board unless you have built up enough risidual energy to show a spectural orb of yourself, often appearing in the colour of the Aura that the spirit is feeling at the present time. You must remember that the reason you put your finger-tips on the glass is so the spirit can use your energy to move the glass, because they are thin as air, thus being incredibly weak. They need to use your energy to push the glass to each destination.

So what is to say this isn't real? How do we have the right to say it isn't real? Because it has, and will continue to be successful over periods and possibly centuries to come, don't under-estimate the power of man, because it's the strongest power in the universe.
Oh my, fgs it is a load of flipping nonsense, why waste your time convincing yourself and others they are really because they are blatantly fake, everyone knows it, even the people who say they are real know deep down they are absolutely 100% FAKE!

[iJoe]

my opinion is that they're not real howeverrrr. everyone's entitled to your own opinion and these people who believe in ghosts and not god it doesn't make sense, you can't see ghosts you believe in them you can't see god you don't believe in him :s

wd for that post +rep

tbh people do them at parties, never done one myself cba with all that lol

[-Soph-]

I tried it, nothing happened.