[Bobba] My Views on ClubHabbo and Sulake [Archive]

Just-One

31-03-2007, 11:13 AM

In my opinion no, the US fansite list is a mess, same with CAs. UKs is extremely hard to get into and they have tough standards, so you have to be a pretty good fansite to be official in the UK, unlike in the US where there's some scrappy free host websites.

Not correct.

Habbox and ClubHabbo are not the only sites to have fun on official fansite lists. HabboRemix was official on UK, US, CA, and AU. Each removed at some point or another for no reason at all.

The USA did reply with a reason, and asked me to complete some modifications, now they refuse to add the site take a look at these emails :

Dear Just-One,

I have let the proper staff members know to re-add your site as an Official
Habbo US fansite. If you do not see it listed within 7 working days, please
contact me again and I will remind the team to upload the site.

Thank you for your understanding, and being so kind in complying with our
requests, see you in the hotel!

JeffooNow after not being re-added, they are emailing me now saying:

Dear Habbo,

Thank you for your email. We are not currently adding any Official
Fansites found on our website at this time nor do we add fansites by
request.

Thank You.
James,

We don't have a timeframe on adding new Official Fan Sites, which would
also apply to reinstating former ones.

ThanksThe other fansites did not bother telling me the reasons for removal including the UK. Sulake is a company which employed its users, which means half of Habbo Hotel is run by ex users who have just left their teenage ages. Therefor, they have no experiance what so ever in how to deal with customers, and how to put across a professional image to its clients.

Emma Monks is another example of this, sending emails to users showing zero respect for the client, and almost swearing at me in an email because of comments I made on an unofficial fansite which she, and other UK office staff, should not be using as they made it Unofficial and dont give their support. Even so, Emma Monks still feels comments made on this forum, despite it being unsupported by Sulake, affects anything you do on Habbo, for example my Habbo X application.

Rebecca Newton and Rebecca Norman is another example too. They are older than everyone else, yet they seem to have a mental age of 15 year olds. Rebecca Newton, who sent emails to me such as:

Hey
Nice job stealing a kid's account on habbohut and blaming it on *****net. You think we're idiots ? Minor league wannabe hackers always give themselves away...like you did when you caused Sulake tons of time and money last summer.

Now please go away and play somewhere else and stop causing problems for teenagers. Surely you can play these silly games with people your own age.And emailing users of my fansite HabboRemix, when they email her to DJ on HabboRemix (Without consulting me ofcourse) she replies back with comments such as this email:

Thanks for your email,

Neither myself, or ione, will ever DJ on a site Just-one is involved with, let alone owns!

If you want me to DJ on any other site feel free to reply back,

Becs
Its quite funny how they feel they can send emails like that out to users, yet they never actually ban Just-one? Not that there is any point now as I have not been on Habbo since December and don't plan to login in the future either.

There has been many other emails, most alot more rude and unprofessional than those like emails saying "This is the part where I'm supposed to be suprised or something right? So tedious and so sad, all this pathological lying. You're all playing some kind of silly game and we're not interested." when I simply said I was going to CC the emails onto someone else to take a look into as I didn't believe the legitimacy of them. She always had a vendetta to remove Justine, it was quite funny as when HabboRemix was removed on the UK site I emailed her saying, after she said I should stop being a kid and acting my own age, sent her a message saying "
And Becs, I could say exactly the same back about you playing silly little games, and I am sure you know what I mean. (Your recent failed Justine rampage)" which lead to Becs questioning Dan on AIM as to why I know all about it haha. Because she made loads of rubbish and stuff about Justine, she emails people, such as me, saying " Interesting about Teg. It was his big mouth that was her final demise with Sulake." so she is going around claiming she was fired! This is not the case at all, but hey, Becs lives in her own lil "Habbo world".

Rebecca Norman, well, a number of times I've complained to Sulake HQ about Becs emails and attitudes and the way she works with kids (she shouldn't be allowed to, end of), and her and Becs don't actually like each other from what I hear, yet they protect each others bums from issues at Sulake, if one does something wrong, the other protects them. So when I complained about the way I had been treated, showing OBVIOUS misconduct by Rebecca Newton three times, all she did was email me saying she done nothing wrong and to email her direct in the future (Hah! I wonder why :P).

You see, the big problem is Sulake HQ do not have a "danny la roo" as to whats going on with their sister company Habbo Hotel, if they did boy they would be surprised and it would be wonderful if they read this topic, mind you though, I am sure Becs and Ione will find a way to make slanderous comments about me by accusing me of hacking once again and say Im a lil kid who's speaking rubbish and I am just doing this because my fansite is not official and I was refused to be an x or banned etc etc.. but hey, I don't realy care! I don't do much on Remix anymore, everyone else runs it, and I don't even go on Habbo as I am more involved with real life work and having a social life. I don't live on Habbo Hotel, which Becs obviously does as she gets a kick out of DJ'ing on her own fansite (breaching DPA laws by checking up on users account history if they wish to be a DJ, but hey, thats just minor compared to the number of times she emails others about other users information) and on other fansites too, despite the fact her job is managerial not community wise. Thats the job of the Hotel Managers worldwide!

So to conclude this rather long essay which I have not done in ages (Haha) Sulake is a mucked up company run by young adults or teenagers with no experiance with business and there is no chance in hell Sulake will repair themselves. You lot will still play Habbo, either way, just so you can throw away money on credits and ruining your social lifes stuck on a virtual hotel where you get some sort of buzz off being popular.

Its funny, I've written all this essay and I have no idea what my point was, so errr, lets just consider this my last essay and summary as to why Sulake are run by monkeys. =]

Just-one

Pyroka

31-03-2007, 11:50 AM

Wow dude, strong stuff right there. Thing is though you're telling the wrong people, why not just tell the Sulake COO? That would somehow be a more.. effective way of acting upon this so called "childish company". I think I could sum up your thread quite easily though by saying one word: Corruption.

It's a known fact within Sulake and it always shall be that way unless of course these people were to be "dealt with" but do you really see Sulake warning their own staff? Somehow I do not for one reason, it's a corrupted company! I bet most of the finnish staff who are probably good people have NO IDEA what is going on in the actual Habbo community, thinking that their "collegues" are doing a great job when after what you've said, it seems like monkeys could do a better job than them, hell even THE USERS could do a better job than them. :rolleyes:

They wont listen to you either for one reason: Your reputation. They'll just blame your reputation of being this "ultra leetz0rz hax0r" and not a civilised person and almost talk to you like you're a little kid, reasoning to you like you're a user asking about their credits being stolen by a scammer and sarcastically giving advice. You've really shone the light on Sulake and it's a shame that I doubt they'll ever read this as well, why would they read something which makes them look bad? Even discriminate them? Oh yes they wouldnt. It's a shame Tim Moore, the news reporter from Daily Telegraph didn't see this article, Sulake would have had their cage rattled by the national press.. Ooo their faces :')

Anyway nice post dude and I agree with almost everything you've posted, dont stoop down to their level and start doing "things" again because after all I know you actually offered your services to patch a few things up for them but it's obvious they think they're the best company in the world and obviously they dont need anyone elses help. That will probably be the demise of Sulake if anything.

Ps. James I MISS YOU <3333

le harry

31-03-2007, 02:12 PM

Nice Post, read half then got bored =]

brandon

31-03-2007, 02:20 PM

lol, another well thought through rant.

--ss--

31-03-2007, 02:25 PM

Omg i'm so sad i read the whole thing :'(
can i ask how you cost sulake millions in the summer? :p
Also how can she know for sure you hacked habbohut?

brandon

31-03-2007, 02:29 PM

Omg i'm so sad i read the whole thing :'(
can i ask how you cost sulake millions in the summer? :p
Also how can she know for sure you hacked habbohut?
I think they think he's associated with [//MSG] I don't know though, this is just a theory not a fact like my last post lol.

Pyroka

31-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Omg i'm so sad i read the whole thing :'(
can i ask how you cost sulake millions in the summer? :p
Also how can she know for sure you hacked habbohut?

I think he cost them manpower as he supposedly did a few things, I dunno what but you're best to ask him that lol. Becs can get anyone's IP and with James' history she looked straight to him and probably concluded that it was him :rolleyes:

I think they think he's associated with [//MSG] I don't know though, this is just a theory not a fact like my last post lol.

I'm not saying a word about [ / / MSG] at all, not a word. That is the main reason they don't trust him though, well from what I've heard and seen anyway.

Just-One

31-03-2007, 04:42 PM

Omg i'm so sad i read the whole thing :'(
can i ask how you cost sulake millions in the summer? :p
Also how can she know for sure you hacked habbohut?

They seem to think I was involved with the Summer hackings, thing is, they took down many people for that and got the police to ring up some people, yet I have never recieved any emails, phone calls, or even the police speak to me so they obviously have no proof, and that would be because what I did back then was hardly anything compared to the other people. (Im not claiming I'm totally innocent, but I wasn't involved with the heavy hacking of the summer).

I think he cost them manpower as he supposedly did a few things, I dunno what but you're best to ask him that lol. Becs can get anyone's IP and with James' history she looked straight to him and probably concluded that it was him :rolleyes:

I'm not saying a word about [ / / MSG] at all, not a word. That is the main reason they don't trust him though, well from what I've heard and seen anyway.

ORLY? James is the man of the moment when it comes to rants. :P Funny though how Clubhabbo radio has been hacked again, typical no?

Becs accused me for hacking HabboHut because she couldn't think of any other excuse as to why HabboRemix was no longer official, it was when k.net hacked habbohut, yet she seems to think I spent hours attacking her pathetic site (Despite the fact I was actually a legit DJ there for a month till she removed me!) and then did a big plan to plant it on k.net despite the fact they admitted to it and none of my IP's were involved as I NEVER DID ANYTHING. Rofl, this is another example of how pathetic and immature Rebecca Newton is, she seems to think anything that comes out of her mouth is the truth, however she speaks the biggest load of rubbish its unbelievable!

ºNotesº

31-03-2007, 05:19 PM

Pyroka and Sid: [ / / MSG] wasn't even real, lol.

Mic

31-03-2007, 06:33 PM

I completely agree with everything you just stated. As I'm a Danish Habbo, I'll only be able to state my experiences on the danish Habbo Hotel - but their staff is just as corrupt as those you just mentioned.

The danish hotels old Community Manager, Helmer, was the most corrupt staff I've ever seen. He seems a lot like Becs TBH :P
He fired two old Hobbas, because they ended up in a huge argument in front of the whole hotel. Later on however, he decided to rehire one of the fired Hobbas and left the other one in the shadow - spite the fact, that the rehired Habbo only was 16 years old, while the one left in the shadow was 19 years old.

Since I was a Hobba on the hotel myself, I've seen most of the happenings 'behind the scenes' - and those things were nasty, but Helmer obviously special treated the rehired Hobba - and he still is (Helmer even got PROMOTED! Gosh!).
The rehired Hobba got so much special treatment. He got lots of super rares, he got offered the job as the Safety eXpert team leader and the Habbo eXpert team leader (which he still is) and nothing can touch him. He's breaking the Habbo Way bigtime, but the danish Staff just looks right trough it - he's been reported so many times, but yet he still get's around it.

When the Hobba program got shut down in December 2005, most of the Hobbas continued as safety eXperts. Quickly after though, they got tired of the huge corruption right in front of their eyes - they quit, protested against the leader and got banned - almost blacklisted.

I, myself, was one of those Habbos (even though we didn't really do anything) and I'm still blacklisted for almost everything on Habbo - especially since Helmer got promoted and is now controlling everything on Habbo. All the blacklisted - and competent - Hobbas have no chance of becoming af Moderator, while the rehired Hobba and his friends got the offer (even though he isn't old enough to be a Moderator yet, he sure will be in a few months!).

Today many Habbos are seeing this corruption, and I'm actually glad that people finally see it. We've been alone on this for so long, but more people are opening their eyes. I can't wait to see if we'll finally get rid of Helmer... gosh.

... Sorry about the long post.. I may have gone a bit overboard :P

--ss--

31-03-2007, 06:43 PM

Pyroka and Sid: [ / / MSG] wasn't even real, lol.
Yes they were? they hacked a few hobbas to get into housekeeping , with housekeeping they reseted account passwords and used thoose passwords to log into the accounts like ione and daisy.

Hxf Santa

31-03-2007, 06:44 PM

strong stuff

ºNotesº

31-03-2007, 07:03 PM

Yes they were? they hacked a few hobbas to get into housekeeping , with housekeeping they reseted account passwords and used thoose passwords to log into the accounts like ione and daisy.

Yes, I know, but it wasn't real - I don't really want to go into detail, but I can assure you it wasn't real.

Rockstar

31-03-2007, 07:03 PM

Well after readinmg this I do agree

Pyroka

31-03-2007, 07:29 PM

Pyroka and Sid: [ / / MSG] wasn't even real, lol.

Maybe some of the people who put [ / / MSG ] in their missions and caused a big scare, rumours going around about how they could get details of anyone in the room made people think, "Lets put it in our missions haha even though we're not part of [ / / MSG ]. I would bet my money that [ / / MSG ] existed, actually I would place a bet of £1000 that I never even had because I'm that sure it existed. I've seen what some people may not have seen, let me assure you. >.<

By the way I dont know about housekeeping so I'm not fully convinced that anyone ever entered the housekeeping illegally.. But hey anything is possibile with the right know-how.

Becs accused me for hacking HabboHut because she couldn't think of any other excuse as to why HabboRemix was no longer official, it was when k.net hacked habbohut, yet she seems to think I spent hours attacking her pathetic site (Despite the fact I was actually a legit DJ there for a month till she removed me!) and then did a big plan to plant it on k.net despite the fact they admitted to it and none of my IP's were involved as I NEVER DID ANYTHING. Rofl, this is another example of how pathetic and immature Rebecca Newton is, she seems to think anything that comes out of her mouth is the truth, however she speaks the biggest load of rubbish its unbelievable!

Seems kind of sad really that she would stoop to such a low level, it's like she has a huge grudge against you; Scratch that she DOES have a large grudge against you and it's kinda immature as you mentioned. She's got access to almost every Habbo's IP which should could've easily cross-checked but I'm guessing she just thought, "Lets get James in the crap, that'll teach him for messing with me because I'm the professional one with the job, he's just some little minor kid who thinks he's all great and that". It's a shame k.net isn't around anymore (well not to my knowledge anyway) because really.. It did show that side to Sulake that most people should've seen yet it got given a bad reputation due to hackings and such. I could refer to you as 'The Doctor' off hit show 'Doctor Who' as well, you're the last remaining Sulake 'targeted' you could say.. I could've said victim but it sounds a little OTT and after all, you were targeted (by a minority of Sulake management anyway).

ºNotesº

31-03-2007, 07:40 PM

Maybe some of the people who put [ / / MSG ] in their missions and caused a big scare, rumours going around about how they could get details of anyone in the room made people think, "Lets put it in our missions haha even though we're not part of [ / / MSG ]. I would bet my money that [ / / MSG ] existed, actually I would place a bet of £1000 that I never even had because I'm that sure it existed. I've seen what some people may not have seen, let me assure you. >.<

By the way I dont know about housekeeping so I'm not fully convinced that anyone ever entered the housekeeping illegally.. But hey anything is possibile with the right know-how.

Haha, you know absolutely zilch, until you know facts - don't bother replying. ;)

--ss--

31-03-2007, 07:50 PM

Haha, you know absolutely zilch, until you know facts - don't bother replying. ;)
http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12617 is james from MSG , i think it was confirmed that was him as he was good friends with seacat and jackhb. like i already said they hacked hobbas , got into hk , resetted pass and sue dhte new ones to acess people's accounts.

also http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=35488
Theese posts about Msg are going off topic :eusa_whis

Also can becs just check peoples IPs when ever she likes ? its a breach of privacy.

ºNotesº

31-03-2007, 08:00 PM

http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=12617 is james from MSG , i think it was confirmed that was him as he was good friends with seacat and jackhb. like i already said they hacked hobbas , got into hk , resetted pass and sue dhte new ones to acess people's accounts.

also http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=35488
Theese posts about Msg are going off topic :eusa_whis

Also can becs just check peoples IPs when ever she likes ? its a breach of privacy.

Yes, and? You don't know anything about [//MSG], as I said I'm not going into details, so you can just think whatever you want, it wasn't real - end of.

timROGERS

31-03-2007, 08:48 PM

Yes, and? You don't know anything about [//MSG], as I said I'm not going into details, so you can just think whatever you want, it wasn't real - end of.

Sorry, but what are you on about?

ºNotesº

31-03-2007, 09:08 PM

Sorry, but what are you on about?

It wasn't real, that's all I'm saying. Obviously you lot think it was, as that's what you's are supposed to think...

GommeInc

31-03-2007, 10:27 PM

To be honest, I really don't like HabboDown because of the stuck up owner/creator, incl. some of the staff. I possibly like CH a tad more than HabboDown.

Pyroka

31-03-2007, 10:45 PM

Haha, you know absolutely zilch, until you know facts - don't bother replying. ;)

I never knew that you had mind-reading capabilities! Please do tell me whats on my mind now.. I'll give you a hint: Arrogance. ;) I would ask "What do you know about [ / / MSG ] which others dont?" but it seems that you want to keep quiet on the issue, and somehow so do I.. I know what I know for fact, you know what you know for fact and lets just leave it at that. ;)

I'm not going into details about this 'Polarbear' kid but to me he sounds like a wannabe.

] Also can becs just check peoples IPs when ever she likes ? its a breach of privacy.

Yeah about that.. After what has been mentioned by Just-one and Mic I think it's fair to say that Becs can do alot of things as well as other staff members 'off the record'.

:]:]:]:]

31-03-2007, 11:01 PM

I heard that James was [ / / MSG ].

And I always enjoy reading your threads about topics like this :).

Hxf Santa

31-03-2007, 11:02 PM

whats with the msg?

:]:]:]:]

31-03-2007, 11:05 PM

whats with the msg?

They got into hosekeeping, got hobbas etc.

But if it wasn't for them/him getting into housekeeping, I doubt housekeeping owuld have as much security as it has now.

ºNotesº

31-03-2007, 11:35 PM

I never knew that you had mind-reading capabilities! Please do tell me whats on my mind now.. I'll give you a hint: Arrogance. ;) I would ask "What do you know about [ / / MSG ] which others dont?" but it seems that you want to keep quiet on the issue, and somehow so do I.. I know what I know for fact, you know what you know for fact and lets just leave it at that. ;)

I'm not going into details about this 'Polarbear' kid but to me he sounds like a wannabe.

Yeah about that.. After what has been mentioned by Just-one and Mic I think it's fair to say that Becs can do alot of things as well as other staff members 'off the record'.

Haha, yeah, I can read minds. Also, you don't know facts, there's only one other person on this forum that actually knows the truth (maybe more). Oh, there's something on my mind too - hint: Egocentrism. You don't know nothing, you make up moronic theories about anything anyone posts on here to try and make people think you know alot, sadly, you don't. Gutted. [//MSG] wasn't real, everyone who's saying "OMG IT WAS ME I HAKED HOUSEKEEPIN" are lying to try and make people think that they can actually hack, but they can't really hack, as it didn't happen. So you can say whatever you like, or say that you've seen things others have, maybe, but sorry, [//MSG] didn't happen.

Pyroka

01-04-2007, 12:08 AM

Haha, yeah, I can read minds. Also, you don't know facts, there's only one other person on this forum that actually knows the truth (maybe more). Oh, there's something on my mind too - hint: Egocentrism. You don't know nothing, you make up moronic theories about anything anyone posts on here to try and make people think you know alot, sadly, you don't. Gutted. [//MSG] wasn't real, everyone who's saying "OMG IT WAS ME I HAKED HOUSEKEEPIN" are lying to try and make people think that they can actually hack, but they can't really hack, as it didn't happen. So you can say whatever you like, or say that you've seen things others have, maybe, but sorry, [//MSG] didn't happen.

Who says "OMG IT WAS ME I HAKED HOUSEKEEPIN"? Because really I dont know one person who has actually said that! Just to get something straight, whenever I make a 'theory' I usually post within that post that I think it is a mere opinion, but most of my posts are usually based on evidence which I have seen with my own two eyes. Say what you wish about [ / / MSG ] being existant/non-existant.. Just I've seen things thats all, things that you probably haven't seen before which may change your mind about [ / / MSG ] being existant. I'm not going to argue with you any further now on this subject, you have your 'opinion' and 'facts' and I have my 'opinion' and 'facts', some facts and opinions outweigh the others but I am not willing to say my side of the story as I dont want to mention names (I'm sure that is the same reason for you of course, sarcasm not included).

And as for what you say about me having an ego:
Definition of Ego:
1. an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others 2. your consciousness of your own identity [syn: self (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self)]

1. I dont have any inflated feeling of pride, only the feeling of stating my own opinion and somehow I dont think I have a "superiority" especially when in other threads I've gave members the benefit of the doubt and I have been proven wrong.. Oh my god thats one off the list.

2. Yes I'm totally like "OMGZ MI NAME PYROKA AND I HAVE TONS OF BADGES AND I AM DA BEST IN THE WERLD" stating that I'm like the man of the year.. Not. I think that's two for two?

I think what you mean by Ego is that I think that everyone around me is wrong and I'm the only one that is right.. I really dont think that way at all and if I did think that way I would be saying right now in this very post, "No Notes, I'm right and you're wrong, just face it you're an idiot who thinks he knows it all and he's so big and tough and stuff, just sod off you noob". :rolleyes: Enough said, got any problems with me take it up via PM because really I have respect for you and I dont want to be arguing anymore in public since it makes us both look childish. :)

Shawnstra

01-04-2007, 02:37 AM

Quite surprised with how they email you. Sulake being a reputable company, should actually use a sense of decorum while emailing people, with professional writing style. Swearing is definitely not a kind of thing they should include in their emails.

timROGERS

01-04-2007, 06:30 AM

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 09:24 AM

Who says "OMG IT WAS ME I HAKED HOUSEKEEPIN"? Because really I dont know one person who has actually said that! Just to get something straight, whenever I make a 'theory' I usually post within that post that I think it is a mere opinion, but most of my posts are usually based on evidence which I have seen with my own two eyes. Say what you wish about [ / / MSG ] being existant/non-existant.. Just I've seen things thats all, things that you probably haven't seen before which may change your mind about [ / / MSG ] being existant. I'm not going to argue with you any further now on this subject, you have your 'opinion' and 'facts' and I have my 'opinion' and 'facts', some facts and opinions outweigh the others but I am not willing to say my side of the story as I dont want to mention names (I'm sure that is the same reason for you of course, sarcasm not included).

And as for what you say about me having an ego:
Definition of Ego:
1. an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others 2. your consciousness of your own identity [syn: self (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self)]

1. I dont have any inflated feeling of pride, only the feeling of stating my own opinion and somehow I dont think I have a "superiority" especially when in other threads I've gave members the benefit of the doubt and I have been proven wrong.. Oh my god thats one off the list.

2. Yes I'm totally like "OMGZ MI NAME PYROKA AND I HAVE TONS OF BADGES AND I AM DA BEST IN THE WERLD" stating that I'm like the man of the year.. Not. I think that's two for two?

I think what you mean by Ego is that I think that everyone around me is wrong and I'm the only one that is right.. I really dont think that way at all and if I did think that way I would be saying right now in this very post, "No Notes, I'm right and you're wrong, just face it you're an idiot who thinks he knows it all and he's so big and tough and stuff, just sod off you noob". :rolleyes: Enough said, got any problems with me take it up via PM because really I have respect for you and I dont want to be arguing anymore in public since it makes us both look childish. :)

Numerous people go around saying it was them who hacked Habbo, and that they ran [//MSG], both Sulake HQ and Habbo planned [//MSG] for a reason which I am not obliged to tell you. And to your one that says you make a post on evidence, sorry, you don't. As you're making posts about this when I know for a fact it didn't happen, also, I said egocentrism, not an ego, try again... you also try and make very long posts to make people believe you're smart, sadly you're not. :) In reply to your definitions to ego, you don't even have loads of badges, so I wouldn't even comment on you if you said that, therefore, that's bull manure.

Try Googling egocentrism before you attempt to be intelligent and give a definition that's completely wrong, until then. T'ra. :)

In reply to NintendoNews: You can believe James or whoever, as I said I'm not going to go into details, also it doesn't matter who told me, but believe me it's a very, very reliable source.

Just-One

01-04-2007, 10:15 AM

Numerous people go around saying it was them who hacked Habbo, and that they ran [//MSG], both Sulake HQ and Habbo planned [//MSG] for a reason which I am not obliged to tell you. And to your one that says you make a post on evidence, sorry, you don't. As you're making posts about this when I know for a fact it didn't happen, also, I said egocentrism, not an ego, try again... you also try and make very long posts to make people believe you're smart, sadly you're not. :) In reply to your definitions to ego, you don't even have loads of badges, so I wouldn't even comment on you if you said that, therefore, that's bull manure.

Try Googling egocentrism before you attempt to be intelligent and give a definition that's completely wrong, until then. T'ra. :)

In reply to NintendoNews: You can believe James or whoever, as I said I'm not going to go into details, also it doesn't matter who told me, but believe me it's a very, very reliable source.

Sorry let me get this right. Your telling me Sulake defaced their own website, hacked people such as Sonicmouse, Aapo, Budy, Coolmandan6, Smash, Callie, Jay, Blood, etc etc and deleted their furniture, and all the other crud they did last summer such as sending alerts with swearing and banning randomers. If you believe that, then your extremely stupid! ''/ Sounds as if your very, very relable source is speaking, in the words of Emma Monks in an email to me.. "bull manure". :P

The cost to repair PR damage, technical damage, and ofcourse the loss of revenue when the sites were offline, would be way too much to compensate by pretending they were being hacked. Your post are making me laugh notes, so please feel free to reply to this so I can laugh a bit more. :)

Just-one

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 10:36 AM

Sorry let me get this right. Your telling me Sulake defaced their own website, hacked people such as Sonicmouse, Aapo, Budy, Coolmandan6, Smash, Callie, Jay, Blood, etc etc and deleted their furniture, and all the other crud they did last summer such as sending alerts with swearing and banning randomers. If you believe that, then your extremely stupid! ''/ Sounds as if your very, very relable source is speaking, in the words of Emma Monks in an email to me.. "bull manure". :P

The cost to repair PR damage, technical damage, and ofcourse the loss of revenue when the sites were offline, would be way too much to compensate by pretending they were being hacked. Your post are making me laugh notes, so please feel free to reply to this so I can laugh a bit more. :)

Just-one

You don't understand why they did it, or what happened, sorry. As I've said to others, until you actually do know what's happened, don't bother replying. You're another one who goes around thinking you know it all, I can understand why the staff dislike you, you're a conceited moron, so just sod off and stop trying to act intelligent.

Edited by Garion (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude toward other members, thanks :).

Ziakol

01-04-2007, 10:44 AM

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 10:47 AM

Ever thought the people that told you were lying...
It's like Bill Gates or something putting a virus or something into one of his products. Suicidal.

And if you don't like the way Sulake runs, don't use it (even though I'm sure that you don't anymore :))

No, as I said it was a very reliable source, and I know it's true because there was an outcome from it.

Ziakol

01-04-2007, 10:52 AM

No, as I said it was a very reliable source, and I know it's true because there was an outcome from it.
So why don't you tell us...
There's no point saying you know if you can't tell us...

It's like saying there's £1000 in your house, but I can't tell you were it is >.>

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 10:57 AM

So why don't you tell us...
There's no point saying you know if you can't tell us...

It's like saying there's £1000 in your house, but I can't tell you were it is >.>

I could tell you, if I want to. Sadly, I don't - I'd rather read idiotic posts trying to prove correctness. :)

2hd.

01-04-2007, 11:09 AM

both Sulake HQ and Habbo planned [//MSG] for a reason which I am not obliged to tell you.

So you're saying sulake would earn more money from the habbos who got hacked buying more credits, than the goodwill costs and manhours it took to contact every hobba, de-badge them and give them a new badge, spend aages on the de-badging festivals, then have to spend more money on recruiting paid moderators?

Sorry, but how can that add up? If you actually do know anything, then move you furni to a back-up account (if you don't want to say because you think you'll be banned on habbo), and spill the beans. Sulake are hardly going to contact the police about you if this is true?

Just-One

01-04-2007, 11:18 AM

You don't understand why they did it, or what happened, sorry. As I've said to others, until you actually do know what's happened, don't bother replying. You're another one who goes around thinking you know it all, I can understand why the staff dislike you, you're a conceited moron, so just sod off and stop trying to act intelligent.

Edited by Garion (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude toward other members, thanks :).

R O F L @ YOU! Yes, I seriously don't know why they did it, to cause such bad publicity and fear in their clients, loosing money from people leaving due to being hacked by Sulake, oh and Sulake obviously hired people to hack their own site to get this so called return you claim. You claim I am the one going around pretending I think I know it all eh? :P

No, as I said it was a very reliable source, and I know it's true because there was an outcome from it.

Yes, they lost thousands of users and pounds, including wages to staff who could not work oh and wagges to the employee's who caused all this damage. Kudos to Sulake if thats the case, best way to ruin your companies reputatoin.

I could tell you, if I want to. Sadly, I don't - I'd rather read idiotic posts trying to prove correctness. :)

Hah, because there is no way you can prove it. Your posts realy humor me, though I don't appreciate your insults. I can tell your a 13 year old thinking "omg this guy on mssm called [email protected] sed it was all an act so he cud steal dinos and sell em lolzzzz but he sed not to tel peeps he told me roflzzzz".

Please, feel free to keep talking about this rubbish, though your just showing yourself up so I recommend hushing up. ;)

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 11:43 AM

R O F L @ YOU! Yes, I seriously don't know why they did it, to cause such bad publicity and fear in their clients, loosing money from people leaving due to being hacked by Sulake, oh and Sulake obviously hired people to hack their own site to get this so called return you claim. You claim I am the one going around pretending I think I know it all eh? :P

Yes, they lost thousands of users and pounds, including wages to staff who could not work oh and wagges to the employee's who caused all this damage. Kudos to Sulake if thats the case, best way to ruin your companies reputatoin.

Hah, because there is no way you can prove it. Your posts realy humor me, though I don't appreciate your insults. I can tell your a 13 year old thinking "omg this guy on mssm called [email protected] sed it was all an act so he cud steal dinos and sell em lolzzzz but he sed not to tel peeps he told me roflzzzz".

Please, feel free to keep talking about this rubbish, though your just showing yourself up so I recommend hushing up. ;)

Yeah, you don't know why they did it, so why bother trying to prove that it did happen? It didn't, it was fake. I can prove it, via chatlogs and by another member of this forum, but I don't want to. Oh, they didn't actually lose anything, I'm sorry it was all planned, no, Lost_Witness didn't tell me, also, you claim to have quit Habbo, yet why have you been using the account 'Hello' until it was banned the other day. :)

No, I won't hush, I love arguing, thanks.

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 11:45 AM

So you're saying sulake would earn more money from the habbos who got hacked buying more credits, than the goodwill costs and manhours it took to contact every hobba, de-badge them and give them a new badge, spend aages on the de-badging festivals, then have to spend more money on recruiting paid moderators?

Sorry, but how can that add up? If you actually do know anything, then move you furni to a back-up account (if you don't want to say because you think you'll be banned on habbo), and spill the beans. Sulake are hardly going to contact the police about you if this is true?

No, that wasn't the case atall. I'm not afraid to say it, I just don't want to. :)

Ziakol

01-04-2007, 11:51 AM

Yeah, you don't know why they did it, so why bother trying to prove that it did happen? It didn't, it was fake. I can prove it, via chatlogs and by another member of this forum, but I don't want to. Oh, they didn't actually lose anything, I'm sorry it was all planned, no, Lost_Witness didn't tell me, also, you claim to have quit Habbo, yet why have you been using the account 'Hello' until it was banned the other day. :)

No, I won't hush, I love arguing, thanks.

No, that wasn't the case atall. I'm not afraid to say it, I just don't want to. :)
So what's the point of you being in this thread if you won't tell us, it's basically spam.

Oh, I know what the next rare is, but I'm not going to tell you :rolleyes:

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 12:03 PM

So what's the point of you being in this thread if you won't tell us, it's basically spam.

Oh, I know what the next rare is, but I'm not going to tell you :rolleyes:

Because I am just informing people that it didn't happen, and okay, I'm pleased that you know the next rare. :D

Catzsy

01-04-2007, 01:32 PM

Because I am just informing people that it didn't happen, and okay, I'm pleased that you know the next rare. :D

I remember this all very well even though it happened a while ago. Can you answer me one question. If it didn't happen then why did Sulake replace furni for those who had been hacked at this time? I know of at least 3 well known Habbos that were given replacement furni.

Just-One

01-04-2007, 01:42 PM

lol. I'm not even going to bother to respond to your silly comments about Sulake doing a conspiracy by hacking their own website.

By the way, I sold Hello to someone else months ago, not that you needed to know that.

OMGitsaROSS

01-04-2007, 01:47 PM

Everyone knows Habbo/Sulake is corrupt. You find a business that isn't corrupt and I will give you money. Every business is corrupt in way or another, if it be money or favoritism in staff.

dd056

01-04-2007, 02:07 PM

I remember this all very well even though it happened a while ago. Can you answer me one question. If it didn't happen then why did Sulake replace furni for those who had been hacked at this time? I know of at least 3 well known Habbos that were given replacement furni.

Most didn't get refunded. You had to be Callie's friend.

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 02:21 PM

I remember this all very well even though it happened a while ago. Can you answer me one question. If it didn't happen then why did Sulake replace furni for those who had been hacked at this time? I know of at least 3 well known Habbos that were given replacement furni.

Because it was all a plan - they replaced the furni so people thought that they did get hacked.

Nixt

01-04-2007, 02:23 PM

I'll explain it all when I can be bothered

You mean you will wait for this to die down and then never mention it again so you don't have to think of something to back up what you are saying. You must understand why people doubt what you say, as you have no evidence to back it up whereas the evidence suggests that what the others are saying is true. If you want people to believe you, you have to give them some form of reassurance that you are telling the truth.

ºNotesº

01-04-2007, 04:32 PM

You mean you will wait for this to die down and then never mention it again so you don't have to think of something to back up what you are saying. You must understand why people doubt what you say, as you have no evidence to back it up whereas the evidence suggests that what the others are saying is true. If you want people to believe you, you have to give them some form of reassurance that you are telling the truth.

Nope, that's not the case, sorry. And, correction, I don't HAVE to show proof, I will choose to show it or not. Now don't start going around bossing people around because you're a silly mod, or a super mod if we're being pedantic.

Pyroka

01-04-2007, 06:04 PM

Numerous people go around saying it was them who hacked Habbo, and that they ran [//MSG], both Sulake HQ and Habbo planned [//MSG] for a reason which I am not obliged to tell you. And to your one that says you make a post on evidence, sorry, you don't. As you're making posts about this when I know for a fact it didn't happen, also, I said egocentrism, not an ego, try again... you also try and make very long posts to make people believe you're smart, sadly you're not. :) In reply to your definitions to ego, you don't even have loads of badges, so I wouldn't even comment on you if you said that, therefore, that's bull manure.

Try Googling egocentrism before you attempt to be intelligent and give a definition that's completely wrong, until then. T'ra. :)

I have only one comment: Whatever happend to you dude, you've suddenly become the person I never knew :l Some people change just to feel big don't they? You can think that you've "won" because I'm not arguing back but really I think I've only found something about people that I wish I didnt. Sad to say it but really you're not the person I thought you were and it seems you've just insulted me for nothing. Your loss.

James knows the truth of this matter and really I know nothing which backs up "proof" which I could use to prove people right/wrong.. Just let him say what he knows (if he wants to say it, dont hold your breath).

Nixt

01-04-2007, 06:45 PM

Nope, that's not the case, sorry. And, correction, I don't HAVE to show proof, I will choose to show it or not. Now don't start going around bossing people around because you're a silly mod, or a super mod if we're being pedantic.

I am not bossing you about :s my position does not make a difference to the truth in my post. What I am saying is you are choosing not to back up your points (which appear very unlikely, may I add) and for that reason they are extremely fallible.
James on the other hand has a sufficient amount of proof behind his points that I have seen, and therefore it makes sense that I and others would believe him over you; especially considering the fact you come across as a relatively rude and conceited individual.
Oh and, you're right, it is your choice if you want to show your evidence but if you want people to believe you, you do have to show evidence; that was the point I was making :).

Creative™

01-04-2007, 07:53 PM

GommeInc

01-04-2007, 08:58 PM

PaulMacC

01-04-2007, 10:34 PM

Notes, your posts are very self-contradictory and useless "/ Why would Habbo/Sulake "fake" a hacking then replace some of the Habbos furniture? Waste of time, effort and money "/ If they did fake it, they wouldn't replace the furniture, because this would show that it wasn't their fault and they don't do refunds "/ And if they fully replaced all the furniture, then it is stupid and dimwitted.

There are also a few hundred habbo's being scammed and hacked each week but I dont see Sulake running to the rescue and replacing there furni.

Why would these be any different ?

Earthquake

02-04-2007, 12:44 AM

The account '' Habbo '' use to have a motto in his mission called [///msg] or w/e the pathetic symbol is, anyway, I wish hackers were friendly and only was out to get sulake and NOT pick up our furni/ban us.

Liz♥

02-04-2007, 06:48 AM

Hi, ive just read this entire thread and i got confused :P im completely against what notes is saying as it makes no sense. What sane company would consider manipulating their own system to make their clients feel that their security is at risk? also in which ways would this profit Sulake? If you can back up your points in any way then you may aswell give it. Until then, a small amount of people are going to believe what yo uare saying.

I'm bascially agreeing with what she's saying. Notes is totally contrdicting himself. He's most probably e-mailed Emma Monks questioning [//MSG]. Obviously she would have given him a good old cover up story which he's most likely to believe, but that's just an assumption...

Nixt

02-04-2007, 06:55 AM

There are also a few hundred habbo's being scammed and hacked each week but I dont see Sulake running to the rescue and replacing there furni.

Why would these be any different ?

Because those Habbos lose their furni / accounts because of their own mistakes, whereas these people lost their accounts and furni because of a security flaw that was bypassed by [//msg] or w/e.

Murdoch

04-04-2007, 06:06 AM

Yggdrasill

04-04-2007, 08:23 AM

Nope, that's not the case, sorry. And, correction, I don't HAVE to show proof, I will choose to show it or not. Now don't start going around bossing people around because you're a silly mod, or a super mod if we're being pedantic.

You don't wish to share this Evidence you state you have? If your going to bring up something, you'd need to expect people to ask you to back what your attempting to say up.

Just-One

04-04-2007, 08:59 PM

Habbo and Sulake is not run by a bunch of kids. The moderation team are generally quite old and very experienced in what they do. They don't tend to hire old users straight from Habbo because they are too emotionally attached like Justine was, and which leads to their downfall. Justine did many things wrong which you don't know about.

The emails from Becs is her being real, open and honest, you want customer relations to be personal, not a computer like auto-response with a generic message, because then you would complain about Habbo not having good customer relations. Those emails aren't official contacts of Sulake. You emailed her about a non-business subject and she told you exactly why and being open and real, and thats who Becs is. The emails are private conversations, not public announcements, but it's immature to copy and paste emails and chat logs to gain your favour against someones character.

With Justine, it wasn't a grudge against Becs with her. Justine went into a spiral of selfishness and personal gain which many other people saw and not just Becs and there was evidence. Justine got away with favouritism and making money off Habbo due to her privilages on Habbo.

And also I know what happened with Habbohut, and I'm not going to talk about it. I'll plainly say that you should just grow up.

Yay! A post I can reply to. Welcome to the topic Murdoch.

Firstly, most Moderators were Hobba's, and these Hobba's were Habbo Users. Most Office staff, for example Jay, helkat, Callie, and others I am sure used to be Habbo's and built up to their positions. Only the NEW moderators are hired based on experiance rather than being ex-players. I know alot of things Justine did wrong, and I also know how many things Becs did/does wrong too.

If Justine earnt money out of Sulake and did many things wrong, why is it that she was never dismissed? If Justine used her privs to earn money, why is the police not on to Justine as that is highly illegal?

Emails from becs are rude, arragont, ignorant, and illegal. Are you saying Becs has a right to email other users about someone else? If so, then please take a brief look at the Data Privacy laws in both the USA and the UK. Whilst we don't want a computer response, we don't expect emails from an adult being send to a "kid" with stuff like..

Now please go away and play somewhere else and stop causing problems for teenagers. Surely you can play these silly games with people your own age.From a general email about officiallity. Emails are a communication channel. Sulake Company policy states users are at total rights to publish emails if the staff member FORGETS to add a disclaimer. Sulake company policy infact states a disclaimer must be placed on all emails, but majority of staff forget that. Publishing emails to prove a point is not "immature", I am very unsure as to why you would even think it is, people in the media publish emails from people, what part of publishing an email to show how a member of staff operates is immature? Its like accusing someone of somethin without giving proof if I didnt publish emails.

Justine was not an angel, but nor was Becs. My topic was hardly to do with Justine being the bestest person in the world, infact I even sent in many emails complaining about her unfairness to Becs, though Becs twisted alot of things to make her seem more worse than she already is. For example, claiming Justine was dismissed when infact she left, and secondly when I reported an account missing furniture, she accused a MOD of stealing the furni and gave it to Justine, when infact it was Just MOD-Alpha (Who I note got sacked for stealing my furni) took it because of a grudge he held against me. lol. Unfortunatly for him, Becs disliked him also and even attempted to get him fired too in the past, but to no avail untill my god send of an email.

LOL! I never even touched HabboHut, unless you email me with proof I want a formal public appology for that accusation. How stupid, oh and Hello Becs, Im sure your reading as half of that post was bound to be from you. ;)

Just-one

GommeInc

04-04-2007, 09:06 PM

Becs is a bit of an (another word for donkey). She does seem to be pretty bad at her job. What does she actually do? Her e-mails are pretty crap and I've noticed she goes on any Habbo Radio possible. That's all I know.

There are also a few hundred habbo's being scammed and hacked each week but I dont see Sulake running to the rescue and replacing there furni.

Why would these be any different ?
I was stating Sulake shouldn't refund them if they did fake the hackings. When you get scammed it is your fault for not using common sense "/ And for hackings, it is stated they don't take the blame for user ignorance. Get a proper firewall and spy-ware scanner, and a password which doesn't have words. With or without digits replacing letters "/

Murdoch

06-04-2007, 03:01 PM

Just-One

06-04-2007, 03:29 PM

Becs cares about community and it's users, but thinks of nothing for the people who try to spoil it, people like you. People who are willing to destroy what others have worked hard for simply because you got into house keeping. Justine only ever cared about her friends and elite group.

Becs pours her heart and soul, and it's people like you who are the rude, arragont, ignorant and 'illegal'.

It's kind of comical that people like you who say they totally dispise it, spend so much more time on Habbo than users who love it. Just so you can put others down and make you feel better and more powerful. Wait till you get out into the real world, you won't have the protection of a computer screen.

Also trying to bring in the legal stuff? Making yourself bigger than what you are? It's common sense, the law doesn't apply, your morals are non-existant. You think Sulake should get introuble for discussing other people in their emails, but you think just because there is no "disclaimer" gives you the right to publish them? It's immature because it's taking a swing below the belt. Your fighting something you possibly can't win. People above Becs don't care about the users, they care about the money. It's people like Becs who care about the users. She just doesn't careless about people who attempt to hack others and the site it's self.

Howdy there Murdoch/Becs again!

If Becs cared so much about the users and community, why had she done so many things to peeve people off? Ask most users on this forum, infact read this topic, everything about her is negative. Out of millions of things I could choose from, I'm going to choose the perfect example of the FOMO campaign. This campaign was obviously in place to reduce the amount of moderators on habbo and to put kids more at risk being encouraged NOT to use the call for help and banning users who do, despite the fact Habbo spent years previous encouraging users to and ensuring kids are safe on the site. Not only that, there was a competition in this campaign which let users win the chance for the almighty becs to DJ on their FOMO sites, or give them a trophy. Becs decided to revoke a couple of sites from the winners because of the fact she disliked some of their posts on habbox, I mean how pathetic and immature is that? Its almost as bad as Emma monks. They are taking a comment made on a fansite they made Unofficial without proof that the habbo owns the account they are making the remarks on, and using it against them.

There has been plenty of things Becs has done that proves she probably thinks she's putting the user first, but realy, her ego and immaturity is then the users. Atleast the damage done in hk was minimal compared to others who defaced habbo and totally destroyed it in the Summer '05.

I do despise Habbo, and if you look up my account you'll notice I have not logged on since Nov '06, 5 months ago, however as I said in the post as a friend of mines site was made unofficial I thought it would be great to expose the above. At the end of the day Murdoch, I exposed a few emails, if users want to ignore my comments, and just read the facts and emails, I am sure the views they will have will still be negative to becs, more negative than it is already.

Publishing an email from a company is not illegal, however, giving out information which the company agreed in their privacy agreement to keep confidential is illegal. No matter what way you look at it, a company, or becs, givingg out information about another user is a user privacy breach, especially as the site is dealing with children. This is normal in all companies and Sulake is no exception!

I think everyone already assumed the people above Becs dont care much about the community, more about money, but if they realised the reason Sulakes user counts are decreasing is because of the way the community is run by such big kids they may become interested, Aye?

James

Antony

15-04-2007, 01:54 PM

Despite mine and your issues James, as you full well know I supported Remix being official at all my time at your fansite. The e-mail where she says she won't be djing on any site involved at the time was actually sent to me.

I fully agree with the issues you have raised, this "professionalism" status Sulake seem to set themselves really slacks when you see Becs with her silly little ways. In the end of the day, she will always treat us as peices of dirt, why? Because she has her access to all the tools, shes got the status - high up in Habbo and merely because the "Habbo Communities" pay her wage.

She's like a spoilt 5 year old, If their is something she doesn't like - she will hit you as hard as she can and continue doing it, Just another spite of power.

I find it funny how Murdoch mentiones Justine, I think it was a good thing she had past experience on Habbo - that way she can know how the communities work and base experiences from a users POV - Isn't this why when Justine was in role their was nearly 15k users online - Sulake raking in well over 100k a month? Now they have a bunch of people who know nothing but to get a load of people to send emails to them, release rares and publish news? Everyone missed Justine, and she is still missed today - The UK Habbo was the most active when she was around - Yes she was a tad bit corrupt, But wouldn't everyone be in their power? And it made Habbo interesting, something to talk about.

Clearly, from James' posts on this forum, they clearly state how corrupt Sulake is being made from this ever so statusable "Rebecca Newton" - However I do not think anything will be made of it, Sulake will continue to have this woman employed for them.

Murdoch

18-04-2007, 10:47 AM

dj-sims2

18-04-2007, 09:12 PM

Fantastic Essay!

I recorded a show that becs done on habbo-record in april 2006. And i thought the staff were being slightly rude there.

bingomania

19-04-2007, 01:40 PM

this dispute will go on and on un-necessarily until someone provides evidence so to continue without evidence and proof is a bit sad really :S

Pyroka

19-04-2007, 02:02 PM

I'd ask why people are still debating this... But the reason seems apparent. It's become more of a 'I'm right your wrong' thread than anything. :P It seems also that this thread is more about one Sulake member in particular: Becs. I don't know all the bad stuff she's done, only James' emails (as for the DJing, no comment :rolleyes:)

Just let the thread rest for a bit, it seems you've gone way off Clubhabbo lol. I could say though, that we've got a while for Becs retirement if it's based on her mental age. By the way she's going right now, I doubt she'll last for another 2 years.

Just-One

19-04-2007, 02:07 PM

It's funny how you make some big overstatements. It's called media and rumours, people don't know about the hundreds of good things people do, but they pick out one thing twist it to their advantage to make it appear much worse than it is. What Becs does is for the greater community, not people like you who sit back and say how immature a professional is because you won't change your view. Your emotionally involved, which leads to people's downfall.

The FOMO campaign was a marketing campaign not to get rid of moderators, but to create the awareness of independance users can use. Rather than not being little children relying on their mums all the time which you seem to describe Habbo's as. They need someone else to do something for them. That's what FOMO is about, creating the awareness of independance. Sulake spend the most money than any online game on moderation alone. To say Habbo don't want their users to be safe is a completely inaccurate statement which you know nothing of.

You think what you did on housekeeping isn't as bad as people defacing Habbo? Of course defacing the site is a short term bad, but what you did in housekeeping is a long term bad thing to destroy a community. The people who defaced the site you could say was a victimless offence, what you did, you destroyed many people in the community.

You seem to relate everything to the law, but you don't have a clue what your involving it for. Yes, publishing an email from a company is not illegal. "Exposing" something is like making something public that is confidential and private. You 'exposing' emails from Becs because she was rude to you, that isn't exposing, thats you being immature, childish and having a whine. If you want me to relate it back to the legal system which you love to do, it's called deformation, which the offender is always at fault.

Becs didn't publish anything confidential about a user, she was just telling you that a user is bad news and she would not DJ on their site because of it. Simple as that.

Also your claim that habbo isn't as popular, can I have some 'evidence' please? Because from the press releases I have, they show quite the opposite.

Hi again,

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I've been busy with other things at the moment and therefore rarely keep an eye on this topic. You see Murdoch, thats where your wrong. I am not emotionally involved at all, hell I don't care if Sulake hate me or if all my Habbo's get banned, I realy do not give 2 cents. I created this topic because once again, Sulake removed a perfectly good fansite and I felt the need to make these posts. In the UK, consumers are encouraged to complain and make public their experiances with Habbo Hotel, are you telling me it is perfectly fine to encourage people to post good experiances, yet its very immature to publish bad experiances? Thats the impression your giving out and that is very naive.

Well Murdoch, I'm expressing my view, and whats realy funny is the things becs is doing "for the better of the community" often peeves ALOT of people off. In this whole thread, which has had 1,400 unique views and 7 pages worth of chat, only YOU are supporting Becs. If Becs has done great for the community, surely she would have alot more supporters ranting back at me? No, instead she's got her nearest "chum" to sign up to Habbox to fight their cause by telling them to say comments.

In Regards to FOMO, indeed Sulake spend alot of money on Moderators, however for many years before this campaign Sulake made alot of campaigns encouraging kids to Call for help if anything inappropriate occurs.. however that campaign bigging up becs made a complete U turn and told people only use call for help in extreme circumstances and if it is not one then you will be banned. Where as before, Moderators could take a look to ensure the users are safe, now they are not fully aware of whats going on as Kids are too afraid to report abusive users.. instead, they encourage the use of an Ignore tool which, despite the fact that your getting loads and loads of abuse from someone, everyone else in the room can hear and see and the person making the abuse can also SEE WHAT YOU SAY! Its hardly a tool which is worth using, all it is doing is blocking your view of it, yet lets the other person when bored of insulting you and getting others to pass on messages, to go and hurl abuse at some other poor kid. I experianced this a mont after FOMO, and I called for help as they are also swearing the heart out too and all I got was "Use Ignore tool and leave room", but they just followed and continued hurling abuse. When I said it was not working I got a message sayin if I use the call for help again I will be banned and to use ignore. ''/ Thats hardly showing Sulakes concern into kids safety.

Sulake should know that kids between 13 to 16, which they aim at, are ignorant to alot of online safety informations, when they are above 16 then okay maybe letting them get independant is fine, but not when kids are that young!

What was done in Housekeeping compared to others was very small, especially as some people got confidental company documents and got loads of users passwords like -<Max>- who managed to trick Jeffoo into handing over her password from a spoof email (Yes, Max likes to brag).

Becs said in an email that tegs was the cause of Justines removal, that is not confidential? Rofl don't make me laugh.. plus, even Becs discussing Justine being fired (Which is not true) is confidential in itself anyway as she is an ex employee who does not expect her personal situation told to the general public!

Also, its defamation not Deformation, and yes I would be breaking the law if I published fake information to affect someones reputation or a companies reputation.. however I don't see anything fake in this email? I have published evidence by forms of emails, and given my opinion using Free speach.. now please tell me where what I have written is a false fact, as opposed to an opinion?

Habbo is beginning to fail, evidence can be seen from the User Online counts... When Justine was in play Habbo usually peaked on a weekday at around 12,000 to 13,000.. Habbo is lucky to peak at 7,000 these days, thats almost a 50% decrease!

Just-one

:LeKevin:

19-04-2007, 02:12 PM

Eurgh, just get over it. It was removed for a reason, same as Remix - Just move on :S

8Freak8

19-04-2007, 02:15 PM

Habbo is beginning to fail, evidence can be seen from the User Online counts... When Justine was in play Habbo usually peaked on a weekday at around 12,000 to 13,000.. Habbo is lucky to peak at 7,000 these days, thats almost a 50% decrease!

This last bit is very true. Over the last year Habbox has only increased it's average unique visitors by about 5%. It doesn't seem like much considering how much more Habbox is involved in Habbo UK now, I would have expected a bigger increase but I think it's because Habbo UK has got less popular. I remember the record amount of Habbos online on UK was just over 13,000 and that happened quite a few times. Now it's really rare to see more than 8,000, and generally it's 4000-7000 online.

Jordy

19-04-2007, 02:40 PM

Earthquake

19-04-2007, 03:11 PM

Indeed I agree with you 8freak8/Just-one on the last bit, it was late 2005 the hotel last peaked it's visitors, which was about 13,000. With all these new versions, causes problems meaning users can't get on (Lag etc) since they don't put a version on in 1 chunk, every month they added another bit to the version causing maintenances etc. Also Habbo is exspensive so it'll never be for everyone, but Callie used to do 'Double credit weekends' very regularly, about 4 times a year... I don't think Lost_witness has even done 1 yet, and he's coming upto a year as manager pretty soon.
Agreed, Just think about the people from finland who want to be able to log onto habbo UK, and have actully got alot of furniture & credits, and only know little english..

Edit..

I would also like a view on the new hotel managar.. Worthless, When he was a trialist he was doing many competitions, Now I see him on one a few weeks, not even that, When justine was around habbo UK was a funny place to be, Full of events/competitions/credit deals you just couldn't say NO! My opinion, we need a woman manager, someone who uses their feelings, not some dull manager who bought us all, and who ever says.. BRING IONE BACK SHES GREAT! no, infact she bought as all aswell, such a nice lady I know, but the rares was a promotion as no rares were out before her, so no if she was manager again you wouldn't be getting free furniture, I wasn't around in 2001/2002 and when she was just hotel manager, but judging from old websites/pictures she wasn't really that good, if I must say we all know callie more so thats why I'm saying this, I joined in 2004 when Jibbi was leaving, (I joined august) I never really took notice of the homepage and competitons.. blah blah, just played habbo and wished I was the richest guy on their, Then callie comes along and I'm more into habbo, The best thing she done.. Has to be callies sleep over, it was really funny, well anyway I can't be asked to go on anymore.. sorry if you disagree with this but it comes from my mind.

Jõnathan

19-04-2007, 04:51 PM

I have a .ZIP file of a document that is an argument between ThinkHabbo and ClubHabbo which is INCREDIBLY biased towards CH.
Anyone want it posted?

Jordy

19-04-2007, 06:47 PM

I have a .ZIP file of a document that is an argument between ThinkHabbo and ClubHabbo which is INCREDIBLY biased towards CH.
Anyone want it posted?

Yeah upload it as a attachment, should be a good laugh.

timROGERS

19-04-2007, 07:27 PM

I have a .ZIP file of a document that is an argument between ThinkHabbo and ClubHabbo which is INCREDIBLY biased towards CH.
Anyone want it posted?

Seen that before, it's hilarious :P

Pyroka

19-04-2007, 09:33 PM

I haven't seen it.. I doubt I want to see it but meh, go on. *SHOCKZ POPUPS ON ME SCREEN* Stupid antivirus lmao. It gives me popups than the internet to me. xD

I can't say it's Chris' fault that not many people are visitng the hotel anymore. Theres plenty more reasons as to why people leave Habbo, I could make a large list but I'm not going to (let your brains figure it out). True true on the double credits but meh, do we really care about SMS double credits crap cheapy stuff like that? I'd much rather prefer some free furniez..

Jordy

20-04-2007, 07:14 PM

do we really care about SMS double credits crap cheapy stuff like that? I'd much rather prefer some free furniez..

I do tbh, as I've gone months with out buying credits. I'd buy lots if they did a double credit weekend.

Dj_dude007

20-04-2007, 07:55 PM

Just-One

20-04-2007, 09:06 PM

Well I just sat and read through your essay and at the end of it thought to myself, So What? Habbo Hotel is an online virtual world and people take many issues too seriously.

The major problem with fansites is that most of the owners/management don't even like Habbo anymore. You don't see McFly fansites with owners that detested McFly right? So surely it is the same principal as that with Habbo.

Your not getting the point, the reason I run a fansite (Despite the fact I don't realy do anything for it anymore due to other real life commitments and don't play habbo, as mentioned at the beginning of this thread), is because the users of habbo and the principle idea of Habbo Hotel is a great one and I do not hate that. If you read this thread properly, it is commenting on the way its run by certain employee's.

HabboRemix is its own unique community, whilst it uses the Habbo Brand, it doesn't encourage users to use Habbo Hotel, it encourages users to use HabboRemix.net. Thats why we run no Habbo on-site events.

MapleSyrup

21-04-2007, 07:28 AM

Your not getting the point, the reason I run a fansite (Despite the fact I don't realy do anything for it anymore due to other real life commitments and don't play habbo, as mentioned at the beginning of this thread), is because the users of habbo and the principle idea of Habbo Hotel is a great one and I do not hate that. If you read this thread properly, it is commenting on the way its run by certain employee's.

HabboRemix is its own unique community, whilst it uses the Habbo Brand, it doesn't encourage users to use Habbo Hotel, it encourages users to use HabboRemix.net. Thats why we run no Habbo on-site events.

After reading this, somewhat, wasted thread, in the end of the day Sulake hate habboremix.net, Becs hates Just-one so why not leave it their? Debating on a Habbo Fansite about Becs is stupid, only you get something out of it, she will probably be sat at her desk (munching dohnuts) having a laugh at you.. why? because you're living Habbo. As the statement goes "don't live Habbo, play it!" - What are you doing? You're letting a woman who doesnt even like you, get to you so much you decide to post continuous, huge threads on the woman?

You seem to mention the fact that you
Despite the fact I don't realy do anything for it anymore due to other real life commitments and don't play habbo, as mentioned at the beginning of this thread quite a bit, we read in the first section that you apparently don't play Habbo no more? Or perhaps how you're making it out is that you're still an addict.. Anyone who "hated" Habbo would have stopped continuing to clone Habbo features and continue using personal funds to supply a Habbo Fansite? It's hard to understand how your mind works, one minute you hate them and hate how they work, yet your paying for your own server to host the site, aswell as new layouts and the time to code clones of Habbo features?

Quite a mis-statement here, I believe you are just jealous of what Becs is, or what she has. (Popularity, status) something which you crave by cloning Habbo features rather than your own.

So to finish, I think you need to get on with your life. By looking at your Remix profile if "James" is you, your 19 now, as you continue mentioning you have real life commitments - so why don't you do them then? rather than ranting and raving about someone who won't be affected in any way by reading this thread, but just laugh at you? You're letting a VIRTUAL game effect your life?

Finally, if your site doesnt encourage users to use Habbo, then why make "Remix homes, Remix Console, Remix Rooms, Badges, Chatrooms, guestbooks" pretty much everything - all Habbo's features and all on Habbo? If anything you're promoting it? And I think the topping of the cake was how you have now basically cloned the Habbo layout, with a few edits. On looking round your site you've even forgotten to take the "Habbo" out of it and place Remix in its place? I found that very funny.

People can slate me all they want, I know what Becs is like, I'm not going to post about that because its a waste of time - no-one but myself would get satisfaction about it, Sulake don't care what the Habbo public think about their employee's - In Sulake's eyes Becs is a good employee, otherwise she wouldn't be getting continuous promotions? We're teens, their a multi-million pound company with a huge staff backing, they aren't going to listen to us - unless its ideas on features they can code which will drag them another 10k a month.

Jõnathan

21-04-2007, 09:58 AM

Here's that TH v CH thing:
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/350739/582270ClubHabbo_v_ThinkHabbo.zip
IT'S NOT A VIRUS LOLZ
and LOL at this bit from the above post:

I know what Becs is like, I'm not going to post about that because its a waste of time - no-one but myself would get satisfaction about it
In bed you mean? :wink_blue
Oh, and this bit screams LOL SUCKUP!!!1 to me:

I believe you are just jealous of what Becs is, or what she has. (Popularity, status)

Murdoch

22-04-2007, 06:52 AM

Well said Maple.

Want to know a fact Just-One? People who hate and complain how bad Habbo is use Habbo and revolve around it more than the people who love it. What Maple said only supports more what I have said that your emotional in it and looking for revenge, self pleasure. That's why your publically discussing it with people who believe anything that is on this site. To make yourself feel better and assure yourself that your right. If you were seriously concerned and liked the idea of Habbo, then you would go to Sulake about your issue. Not a site which has a bad reputation and a supporting audience who make the most trouble on Habbo.

Yes, you can say Becs doesn't like you and HabboRemix, and you think she in the wrong because shes denying her appearance on a site that is owned by someone who hacked house keeping? But whats that got to prove? Shes human? She stands by Sulake and supports their view on what fansites and their owners should be? Think about that.

Your opinion in professional and legal views doesn't matter because you can see your emotionally involved and in seek of revenge. The professional way is what Becs does. She says no and gives a reason, the thing is you can't handle it. Which of course you then resort to the Habbox audience to confirm your assurance you are right.

Also just some psychology I'll share with you. When people start criticising spelling in a "discussion" it more than often means the user has run out of valid points which they are lead to believe are subconciously true. Therefore they will criticise little aspects of peoples credibility like spelling. In that case deformation is a word but wrong meaning, it is defamation I stand corrected. But if you want to criticise others spelling, make sure yours is some standard before you do, because you spell common words constantly wrong. For example off the top of my head you spell really as realy and you have done this everytime you have typed the word.

Also people saying that Sulake is going down the tubes your wrong, because Sulake are going great. Maybe the UK hotel may have averaged out it's users. But don't say it's Justine's fault, because a vast majority of the users don't even know what the Hotel Manager is. If you want to point the finger at one person for causing a 5,000 user peak loss, then you have no idea what your talking about. But don't forget there is about 27 other Hotels owned by Sulake, and UK being primarily the first will often drop in numbers but new Hotels are rising in numbers.

Anything else?

Yggdrasill

22-04-2007, 08:25 AM

Not a site which has a bad reputation and a supporting audience who make the most trouble on Habbo.

It's the most popular habbo-related forum, so I don't see why not? and that last statement ''who make the most trouble on habbo.'' is untrue. don't spread false rumours.

Murdoch

22-04-2007, 08:39 AM

Yggdrasill

22-04-2007, 11:56 AM

We're not one sided. I hate habbox rare values. I have my own reasons for hating Becs, fyi. and debating, is to say the least - fun.

Murdoch

22-04-2007, 12:04 PM

It's stereotyping, generalising everyones views. Just-one said that everyone in this thread hates Becs. That seems very one sided then. If you have your own reasons for hating Becs, then thats good, but most people on this forum have their own opinions influenced by others on this forum.

--ss--

24-04-2007, 03:57 PM

It's the most controversial forum. Thats why it's popular. Habbox was based on the principle of telling users what to think. Such as rare values and rumours. This discussion isn't about Habbox though. I'm stereotyping its audience to explain why no one support Becs in this thread. Habbox is only one sided.
Habbox is pouplar as it provides features that other habbo related sites dont , There aint flooders going around flooding 'go to habbox.com and follow their rare values' etc , people decide themself that they want to follow habbox.

Also it seems you check back here every now and then to check what has been said , i doubt there's someone telling you to do so.

And Habbo staff including Bec's do check this forum regulary , it has been proved numerous of times , I think he also wanted other users to know about his situation with Bec's not just the staff.

Murdoch

26-04-2007, 06:56 AM

I'm not saying people are flooding out there directing traffic to the site. Thats what ClubHabbo do. Habbox do it through subconcious measures. The reaspm why people keep coming back because since you aren't official, the features it allows is the ones that are frowned upon snd not allowed by Habbo and Sulake. Habbox is popular because its in a league of it's own. A league that Habbo and Sulake won't suport.

Jõnathan

26-04-2007, 03:06 PM

because since you aren't official, the features it allows is the ones that are frowned upon snd not allowed by Habbo and Sulake.

What features are they?

Dom¿

26-04-2007, 04:03 PM

STOP BUMPING AN OLD THREAD!

Just-One

27-04-2007, 12:25 PM

After reading this, somewhat, wasted thread, in the end of the day Sulake hate habboremix.net, Becs hates Just-one so why not leave it their? Debating on a Habbo Fansite about Becs is stupid, only you get something out of it, she will probably be sat at her desk (munching dohnuts) having a laugh at you.. why? because you're living Habbo. As the statement goes "don't live Habbo, play it!" - What are you doing? You're letting a woman who doesnt even like you, get to you so much you decide to post continuous, huge threads on the woman?

You seem to mention the fact that you quite a bit, we read in the first section that you apparently don't play Habbo no more? Or perhaps how you're making it out is that you're still an addict.. Anyone who "hated" Habbo would have stopped continuing to clone Habbo features and continue using personal funds to supply a Habbo Fansite? It's hard to understand how your mind works, one minute you hate them and hate how they work, yet your paying for your own server to host the site, aswell as new layouts and the time to code clones of Habbo features?

Quite a mis-statement here, I believe you are just jealous of what Becs is, or what she has. (Popularity, status) something which you crave by cloning Habbo features rather than your own.

So to finish, I think you need to get on with your life. By looking at your Remix profile if "James" is you, your 19 now, as you continue mentioning you have real life commitments - so why don't you do them then? rather than ranting and raving about someone who won't be affected in any way by reading this thread, but just laugh at you? You're letting a VIRTUAL game effect your life?

Finally, if your site doesnt encourage users to use Habbo, then why make "Remix homes, Remix Console, Remix Rooms, Badges, Chatrooms, guestbooks" pretty much everything - all Habbo's features and all on Habbo? If anything you're promoting it? And I think the topping of the cake was how you have now basically cloned the Habbo layout, with a few edits. On looking round your site you've even forgotten to take the "Habbo" out of it and place Remix in its place? I found that very funny.

People can slate me all they want, I know what Becs is like, I'm not going to post about that because its a waste of time - no-one but myself would get satisfaction about it, Sulake don't care what the Habbo public think about their employee's - In Sulake's eyes Becs is a good employee, otherwise she wouldn't be getting continuous promotions? We're teens, their a multi-million pound company with a huge staff backing, they aren't going to listen to us - unless its ideas on features they can code which will drag them another 10k a month.

Well said Maple.

Want to know a fact Just-One? People who hate and complain how bad Habbo is use Habbo and revolve around it more than the people who love it. What Maple said only supports more what I have said that your emotional in it and looking for revenge, self pleasure. That's why your publically discussing it with people who believe anything that is on this site. To make yourself feel better and assure yourself that your right. If you were seriously concerned and liked the idea of Habbo, then you would go to Sulake about your issue. Not a site which has a bad reputation and a supporting audience who make the most trouble on Habbo.

Yes, you can say Becs doesn't like you and HabboRemix, and you think she in the wrong because shes denying her appearance on a site that is owned by someone who hacked house keeping? But whats that got to prove? Shes human? She stands by Sulake and supports their view on what fansites and their owners should be? Think about that.

Your opinion in professional and legal views doesn't matter because you can see your emotionally involved and in seek of revenge. The professional way is what Becs does. She says no and gives a reason, the thing is you can't handle it. Which of course you then resort to the Habbox audience to confirm your assurance you are right.

Also just some psychology I'll share with you. When people start criticising spelling in a "discussion" it more than often means the user has run out of valid points which they are lead to believe are subconciously true. Therefore they will criticise little aspects of peoples credibility like spelling. In that case deformation is a word but wrong meaning, it is defamation I stand corrected. But if you want to criticise others spelling, make sure yours is some standard before you do, because you spell common words constantly wrong. For example off the top of my head you spell really as realy and you have done this everytime you have typed the word.

Also people saying that Sulake is going down the tubes your wrong, because Sulake are going great. Maybe the UK hotel may have averaged out it's users. But don't say it's Justine's fault, because a vast majority of the users don't even know what the Hotel Manager is. If you want to point the finger at one person for causing a 5,000 user peak loss, then you have no idea what your talking about. But don't forget there is about 27 other Hotels owned by Sulake, and UK being primarily the first will often drop in numbers but new Hotels are rising in numbers.

Anything else?

I am simply going to lol at these comments, I don't think there is a need to continue this thread. All I'd be doing is replying saying the same comments, and you'll reply saying the same thing too.

For your information, HabboRemix is not run or developed by me no longer, this has been passed to Baving and Evolution. Please get your facts right in the future.. I decided to publish facts and information because it is best users are aware, thats why there are TV programs called WatchDog in the UK. Are those people who compain and expose business malpractise "immature" and need a life? I think not.

At the end of the day, I am not influencing anyones opinions, people can post as they please, just like you two have so don't give us rubbish about how Habbox is peoples bible and anything that says goes, people are the most stubborn on Habbox, the fact that quite a few agree with my post is simply because of the proof I gave from emails! I've already been to Sulake, who didn't care less, and you'd have known that as I said this in my post initially if you read this thread properly.

People are free to make their own judgement, and the only reason you over-protective of Becs is because your her new pet. And your telling me I'm obsessed with Habbo? I haven't logged on the damned thing for months, I'm sure Becs will tell you that as she loves giving non-staff private users information. :) Mind you, Becs seems to get her logs from a magical place so I'm sure they will say I log on everyday, just like these logs about me supposedly hacking HabboHut. If I desperately wanted to hack habbohut I could have done so, so many times. :P

FYI: I sent you an email 2 months ago letting you know "Enom" has Staff privs on HabboHut forum and you need to remove them or ban enom again, it has full staff forum access, and its still a DJ and has been for months to date! If I seriously was this nasty person who hacks habbohut, don't you think I'd have used that to my advantage?

Take care now.

James :)

PS: MapleSyrup, how comes your views are totally different to your boyfriends? ;)