Virginia Tech Massacre

[le harry]

Sad business :(

Your thoughts: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18145688/?GT1=9246

Also more links at the msn.com homepage

2 hour gap between shootings, people say it's two different incidents, quite a coincidence aye.

Edit: They didn't evacuate the school until 2 hours later after the first shooting of 2 people, then a 30 person massacre afterwards. Someone's going to get in trouble for that

These seem to be happening a lot more commonly now, like 4 in the last couple of years..

Beslan School Siege, The private school one etc etc. Proves how easy it is to obtain a gun..

[R]

Its bloody sick how someone can do that, and no one is gonna get in trouble he killed himself.

[le harry]

Yes they will, the school will. They didn't lock down the classrooms / evacuate till 2 hours after the 2 fatalities occured. Then somebody who knew something was up got his phone out right next to Norris Hall where the big massacre happened and you could hear the 27 gunshots go off nearby, it's really scary.

[Orange Invader]

I just heard about this, they should either ban guns, make police better and more prepared for such an event or just end school and get kids to learn stuff over the internet. Either of those must happen or it will most likely happen again.

[Shawnstra]

We ban guns in Singapore ;) They should do so in that area too

[Eamonn]

We ban guns in Singapore ;) They should do so in that area too
Can't do anything in Singapore, it is so strict :P

[Stoj]

Yes they will, the school will. They didn't lock down the classrooms / evacuate till 2 hours after the 2 fatalities occured. Then somebody who knew something was up got his phone out right next to Norris Hall where the big massacre happened and you could hear the 27 gunshots go off nearby, it's really scary.
The school wont get in trouble the teachers were in the same situation as the kids how do you expect them to get everyone to evacuate. The police are the ones who should of took control of the situation.

[Kieeran]

Was there a motive?

[Stoj]

Was there a motive?
rumours have it that it was a fellow student from the college.

[Kieeran]

Nice post count Stoj ;)

Surely they could identify the person even if hes killed himself.

[Judge Judy]

They say it's an Asian student who was wearing a black top and is 6 foot tall.

[Dubble]

Its bloody sick how someone can do that, and no one is gonna get in trouble he killed himself.



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[lew!]

its terrible, how people can do this.. They have some seriously messed up mind. And yes its crap how the school evacuated only after 2 people got shot, its the schools fault those 30 more people died.

Terrbible. Some people broke their arms, legs and limbs when they jumped from 2nd and 3rd floor buildings trying to escape him

[-Soph-]

I just heard about this, they should either ban guns, make police better and more prepared for such an event or just end school and get kids to learn stuff over the internet. Either of those must happen or it will most likely happen again.

even if they do ban guns, it won't prevent it, nor lower the chances of it happening, if someone wants a gun to do harm with it, they'll get a gun.

its the same with drugs, they're banned/illegal, and people still get them.

Where I live your allowed to carry a gun into the mall with you, and theres no more shootings here than in a city that isn't allowed to do that.

[PaulMacC]

Apparently it was a suicidial past-student who seeked revenge on the teacher's who made him fail major exams

[mat64]

We ban guns in Singapore ;) They should do so in that area too

Too bad it's part of the American constitution :wink_blue

[DaveTaylor]

wasnt there a previous incident like this

[Kardan]

Apparently it was a suicidial past-student who seeked revenge on the teacher's who made him fail major exams

Apparently he wanted revenge, because his girlfriend recently dumped him...

But it's all rumours. Only beleive what is said via press conferences.

[Ashhizzle]

Its a bad thing, but even i could get hold of a gun thse days:(

[Infrontation]

wasnt there a previous incident like this
23 killed on Oct. 16, 1991: George Hennard crashes his pickup into a Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, and then opens fire on the people inside before killing himself.


21 killed on July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty opens fire at a San Ysidro, Calif., McDonald’s restaurant before a police sniper kills him. His victims include five children and six teenagers.


15 killed on Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman shoots from the top of the tower on the University of Texas campus before being brought down by law enforcement. Before the shooting, Whitman had killed his wife and mother.


14 killed on Aug. 20, 1986: Patrick Henry Sherrill shoots co-workers at an Edmond Oklahoma post office and then kills himself.


13 killed on April 20, 1999: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold begin shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado. Of the victims, 12 were students and one was a teacher. Both gunmen killed themselves.

Then there is the Virginia shooting. They happen far to regularly.

[Ostinato]

Was there a motive?

It was on the news he was "jilted" and his girlfriend left him for another guy. Apparently they 2 were the first people he killed before continuing his massacre.

[DaveTaylor]

cheers for the info dave and the columbia one was the ne i saw a program about, sick buggers

[RedStratocas]

wasnt there a previous incident like this

About a million, yeah. We've got some shooting problems over here.

Its not the University's fault. You can blame the police, but the University isnt a safety institution. They should have been told what to do by police, and they werent. If they were, the police certainly gave them bad commands.

What kills me is the 2 hour gap between the shootings. What the hell happened there? You know what you do when there's a shooting? Look for the shooter! 2 hours?! I have no idea what they were thinking there. They might have been as incompitent as the Columbine incident's police force.

The guy was a 23 year old South Korean who wrote a note:


A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus.

I would like to squeeze this guy and yell "grow up" as loud as I can into his ear.


cheers for the info dave and the columbia one was the ne i saw a program about, sick buggers

*Columbine

[DaveTaylor]

hehe sorry xD

[summer]

it really is disgraceful how someone can do these things. & they always kill themselves, so they're never brung to justice. ):

[Nemo]

Lol people watch the news xD but basicly wot happened was:
Some chinese asian guy they say had some trouble with love life or w/e and he was actually a student there and in the morning he woke up and with a handgun he purchased a week ago he went and shot someone.. i think it was someone he hated or sumin but a teacher came so he shot the teacher aswell and he they died.. that was the 2ppl who died at the beginning. Then the police decided the situation was under control and there was no need for an evacuation and let lessons continue.. but 2hours later he went back and just went on a killing spree... one story i heard on the news was:
He went in and show the majourity of the students in the class, he then went and some of the students slammed the door shut, but then he came back and shot EVERYONE then he went but one girl managed to wedge herself so he couldn't come back in but he still tried, even shooting at the door.
also a film was taken with a phone and all you can hear is gun shots... and imagine each one was someone getting shot.. Bah! must be horibbly scary... especially the story i said.. how sick.. and what a wimp to kill himself.

[RedStratocas]

I didnt hear anything about a girlfriend, because they're having a lot of trouble finding information about the guy. He was a loner. I dont think he had a girlfriend.

[Nemo]

I didnt hear anything about a girlfriend, because they're having a lot of trouble finding information about the guy. He was a loner. I dont think he had a girlfriend.Well they originally thought it was something to do with his love life as they said when he was in one of the dorms he kept asking for a certain girl..

[le harry]

Yeah, he was jealous because his girlfriend had left him. He shot his girlfriend then the black teacher walked in on it & he shot him because he saw it. The two shootings were atlwast 500metres away from each other, different sides of the campus. How could you not find him? They said the campus was massive though, so I don't know.

[Jakey]

They cancel classes here if theres an inch of snow.
Theres a shooting with 2people dead but dont worry no need to cancel school.

what the ****?

And yes i live in the states

[PaulMacC]

Was the campus really big ?

I'd be crapping myself I heard people jumped from 3rd and 4th floors and broke their legs and arms

[DCeption]

I hope they dont have a proper funeral for a spoilt **** like that.

Poor people :(

[le harry]

Was the campus really big ?

I'd be crapping myself I heard people jumped from 3rd and 4th floors and broke their legs and arms

Campus was huge, it was a proper university.

3/4 people who were in Norris Hall survived because they played dead, head down face first. The people who were shot but survived, every single one of them had atleast 3+ bullets in them.

This is scary, the police broke into the chained up door from the inside (which the gunman did) and as they were running up the stairs to the second floor (jumping over bodes from the dead in the stairwell) they could still here gunshots, just as they got to the top it stopped, that's when he shot himself. They were literally 15 seconds away from him.

[Ekalb]

Campus was huge, it was a proper university.

3/4 people who were in Norris Hall survived because they played dead, head down face first. The people who were shot but survived, every single one of them had atleast 3+ bullets in them.

This is scary, the police broke into the chained up door from the inside (which the gunman did) and as they were running up the stairs to the second floor (jumping over bodes from the dead in the stairwell) they could still here gunshots, just as they got to the top it stopped, that's when he shot himself. They were literally 15 seconds away from him.

To be honest rather than killing himself I would have proffered he died in a sea of justice-bullets fired from dozens of police rifles/machine guns. It's the only punishment I would see fitting for such a terrible crime.

A few years back there was a presentation about the columbine shooting at my school by the father of one of the girls killed. It was interesting and most teachers left in tears.

btw;
he was south Korean, obtained the weapons legally and people are still unsure about his motives. I think they are beginning to doubt it was revenge about an exam/love life as it was said by fellow students he never had a girlfriend and actually made a girlfriend up.

[RedStratocas]

he was south Korean, obtained the weapons legally and people are still unsure about his motives. I think they are beginning to doubt it was revenge about an exam/love life as it was said by fellow students he never had a girlfriend and actually made a girlfriend up.
He may have been schizophrenic. Early 20's is when that develops. There have been 2 campus shootings where that has been the case. They'll have to open his brain probably.


Yeah, he was jealous because his girlfriend had left him. He shot his girlfriend then the black teacher walked in on it & he shot him because he saw it. The two shootings were atlwast 500metres away from each other, different sides of the campus. How could you not find him? They said the campus was massive though, so I don't know.

What? The black kid shot was a student, and he didnt shoot his girlfriend? You must have been seeing speculation.

[edible]

goshh, i kind of just noticed a majority of killers kill themselves aswell.
but i heard it was cos he had an infatuation with his ex-girlfriend, so the first he shot was his gf & her bf.

he then shot people out in the football grounds bit.
then inside again.

thats what i heard.
it's well sad that people lost their lives cos of him :@:@:@:@

[hobo]

is it bad that my first thought was "trust it to be an asian"!?

[PaulMacC]

To Twinkle - I dont know if your being sectarian towards there race or what but it's been every single 'BIG' event that an asian or someone like that race was behind it , 9/11 etc.

The police officers were 15 seconds away, I'd rather see him being shot by police officers too because no matter if he was demented he shouldnt have did that and deserves it

If only we could turn back time ehy.


He is one sick motherf and demented.

What do you mean they'll have to open his brain

[RedStratocas]

What do you mean they'll have to open his brain

He may have had a tumor which messes up your thought. There was once a shooter who was sniping people from the top of a watch tower and killed 16 people, and after police shot him to death, they found a note he wrote that basically says "something is wrong with me". And oddly enough--he was right. He had a tumor.

It doesnt sound like he was brought up this way. His sister even graduated from Princeton. It's likely he was either schizophrenic or had a tumor or something like that. If he was schizophrenic, its definitely what caused him to do it, but it was still inexcusable. Tumors are a bit different though.


is it bad that my first thought was "trust it to be an asian"!?

We Americans can kill eachother just fine, thank you. We dont need to outsource another job of ours overseas.


goshh, i kind of just noticed a majority of killers kill themselves aswell.
but i heard it was cos he had an infatuation with his ex-girlfriend, so the first he shot was his gf & her bf.

he then shot people out in the football grounds bit.
then inside again.

thats what i heard.
it's well sad that people lost their lives cos of him :@:@:@:@

I have no idea where everyone is getting the girlfriend thing from, every article I read says he was a loner.

[le harry]

He may have been schizophrenic. Early 20's is when that develops. There have been 2 campus shootings where that has been the case. They'll have to open his brain probably.



What? The black kid shot was a student, and he didnt shoot his girlfriend? You must have been seeing speculation.

I'm not sure at this point, I know that in the dorm a girl & a black person was shot in there. I've heard it was a teacher but it's unconfirmed.

[lAdmire]

What posessed this guy to do this? No one deserves to be killed this way.

[lAdmire]

To be honest rather than killing himself I would have proffered he died in a sea of justice-bullets fired from dozens of police rifles/machine guns. It's the only punishment I would see fitting for such a terrible crime.

A few years back there was a presentation about the columbine shooting at my school by the father of one of the girls killed. It was interesting and most teachers left in tears.

btw;
he was south Korean, obtained the weapons legally and people are still unsure about his motives. I think they are beginning to doubt it was revenge about an exam/love life as it was said by fellow students he never had a girlfriend and actually made a girlfriend up.

I really think, no human being would rather turn themself in to the police. First of all, you go to jail, for sure you will have to go to trial && it'll take months before you are convicted && found guilty. You killed over 30 people. Your not going to get out. Your going to death row. Why not just make the process quicker && kill yourself right than && there? You just saved yourself some time. No one is going to wait for the authorities to come && arrest them. Or this guy just wanted to commit suicide. What you prefer && what the killer would prefer is two completely different choices. Maybe he was a nice guy && something happened && he just went off. Maybe... you never know.


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[Aces]

It's just sick id say, my cousin finished hes work there 2years ago..

[RedStratocas]

I'm not sure at this point, I know that in the dorm a girl & a black person was shot in there. I've heard it was a teacher but it's unconfirmed.

A really old teacher was shot. He was actually quite brave, he held the door closed so his students could get away, he saved a few lives sacrificing his own.

[Demynx]

A really old teacher was shot. He was actually quite brave, he held the door closed so his students could get away, he saved a few lives sacrificing his own.

The irony is that he was a Holocaust survivor, and he died on 'Holocaust Rembrence' Day.

[Ekalb]

I really think, no human being would rather turn themself in to the police. First of all, you go to jail, for sure you will have to go to trial && it'll take months before you are convicted && found guilty. You killed over 30 people. Your not going to get out. Your going to death row. Why not just make the process quicker && kill yourself right than && there? You just saved yourself some time. No one is going to wait for the authorities to come && arrest them. Or this guy just wanted to commit suicide. What you prefer && what the killer would prefer is two completely different choices. Maybe he was a nice guy && something happened && he just went off. Maybe... you never know.

He didn't seem very nice after hearing/viewing the literature he wrote. Plays about people dyeing, about people shooting others in their school and the video he sent to that news station.

[lilpuppygamzova]

I really think, no human being would rather turn themself in to the police. First of all, you go to jail, for sure you will have to go to trial && it'll take months before you are convicted && found guilty. You killed over 30 people. Your not going to get out. Your going to death row. Why not just make the process quicker && kill yourself right than && there? You just saved yourself some time. No one is going to wait for the authorities to come && arrest them. Or this guy just wanted to commit suicide. What you prefer && what the killer would prefer is two completely different choices. Maybe he was a nice guy && something happened && he just went off. Maybe... you never know.

your opinion isn't valid because you e-studder sorry...

the shooter recorded videos 6 days prior to the shooting and he mentioned that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (the teenagers who began a rampage at Columbine High school which was known as one of the worst school shootings in history, where 12 students were killed, and a teacher, with 24 others injured) were great people or something like that. apparently the shooter of Virginia Tech was wearing a boy scout uniform while this happened. The aniversary of the Columbine shooting is this Friday (april 20th) and people suspect that this has something to do with the Virgina Tech shooting.

[RedStratocas]

your opinion isn't valid because you e-studder sorry...

the shooter recorded videos 6 days prior to the shooting and he mentioned that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (the teenagers who began a rampage at Columbine High school which was known as one of the worst school shootings in history, where 12 students were killed, and a teacher, with 24 others injured) were great people or something like that. apparently the shooter of Virginia Tech was wearing a boy scout uniform while this happened. The aniversary of the Columbine shooting is this Friday (april 20th) and people suspect that this has something to do with the Virgina Tech shooting.

He wasent dressed as one, just looked like one in his vest and shirt.

What people suspect that it had something to do with it?

[le harry]

Mod, if I'm not allowed to post these remove them thanks..

That's just a few of the photo's he sent to NBC before the shootings that morning.
http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5453669,00.jpg

[Nemo]

Mod, if I'm not allowed to post these remove them thanks..

That's just a few of the photo's he sent to NBC before the shootings that morning.
http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5453669,00.jpg
Yeah they were a couple he took of himself before and he also took a video which he said "You made me do this" which was pretty disturbing, its on the news at lunchtime, also there was a 2hour gap between his shootings because he went to post those pictures(and more) and the video of himself, after shooting the first 2 students(it was confirmed) then he went back to the massacre.

but yeah as some said, an old teacher who survived the holocaust wedged his body up against the door so his students could jump out the window but the killer then killed him.. which was sad >.<

[le harry]

Yeah they were a couple he took of himself before and he also took a video which he said "You made me do this" which was pretty disturbing, its on the news at lunchtime, also there was a 2hour gap between his shootings because he went to post those pictures(and more) and the video of himself, after shooting the first 2 students(it was confirmed) then he went back to the massacre.

but yeah as some said, an old teacher who survived the holocaust wedged his body up against the door so his students could jump out the window but the killer then killed him.. which was sad >.<

Yeah, but where did he access the internet

[Ekalb]

Yeah, but where did he access the internet

Where does it say he went on the Internet?

Btw it's post as in via mail.

[Mr.OSH]

Thats just plain sick to be honest. :@

[Ostinato]

Such an unfortunate event </3

[RedStratocas]

Yeah, but where did he access the internet

Mailed as in physically mailed. Not e-mailed.

[YouFail]

I think it was the 8th Aniversary of the columbine massacre and that has something to do with it. He also took the hammer and gun to head pose from a violent movie created in South Korea.

He found his (ex)girlfriend in bed with another guy and then got 'revenge' later by shooting her. A student ran in after hearing a banging and as Cho (killer) realised he witnessed the crime he killed him in cold blood, wrong place, wrong time. I assume at this point he realised he was going down for a long, long time (pre-meditaded murder) and basically went on a killing spree. During the mysterious two hours all that is known is he posted a film to a news station. Why the news station didn't alert police to who they were chasing is a mystery to me.

He then proceded to fire more than 27 shots (as someone has already said he fired 27) as every person that was shot had 3+ bullets in them, as confirmed by a doctor, and he killed 30 people in this spree. When he entered one of the buildings, Norris Hall if I remember, he chained all the doors closed so hostages couldn't escape. Police first saw him when he approached a window and then walked away.

He was described as having 'an un-godly amount of ammunition'. I suppose he was ready for a long stand-off. He seemed to have something wrong as he did have an imaginary girlfriend after his rejection.

He came from a 'well-off' family, his sister was a Princeton graduate, mother and father were well respected members of the Virginia community. He was described as a nice boy, but slightly strange.

What gets me is how a person could bring themselves to commit such an atrocity coming from a good background and a good life. He came equipped with 2 pistols and 2 daggers in a backpack.

And thats my two cents over and done with. I wrote most from memory so forgive me if its incorrect or there is new information.

Richard Knox

[RedStratocas]

I think it was the 8th Aniversary of the columbine massacre and that has something to do with it. He also took the hammer and gun to head pose from a violent movie created in South Korea.

He found his (ex)girlfriend in bed with another guy and then got 'revenge' later by shooting her. A student ran in after hearing a banging and as Cho (killer) realised he witnessed the crime he killed him in cold blood, wrong place, wrong time. I assume at this point he realised he was going down for a long, long time (pre-meditaded murder) and basically went on a killing spree. During the mysterious two hours all that is known is he posted a film to a news station. Why the news station didn't alert police to who they were chasing is a mystery to me.

He then proceded to fire more than 27 shots (as someone has already said he fired 27) as every person that was shot had 3+ bullets in them, as confirmed by a doctor, and he killed 30 people in this spree. When he entered one of the buildings, Norris Hall if I remember, he chained all the doors closed so hostages couldn't escape. Police first saw him when he approached a window and then walked away.

He was described as having 'an un-godly amount of ammunition'. I suppose he was ready for a long stand-off. He seemed to have something wrong as he did have an imaginary girlfriend after his rejection.

He came from a 'well-off' family, his sister was a Princeton graduate, mother and father were well respected members of the Virginia community. He was described as a nice boy, but slightly strange.

What gets me is how a person could bring themselves to commit such an atrocity coming from a good background and a good life. He came equipped with 2 pistols and 2 daggers in a backpack.

And thats my two cents over and done with. I wrote most from memory so forgive me if its incorrect or there is new information.

Richard Knox

Can someone please give me an article that said he had and killed an ex-girlfriend? Ive been following this since it happened, and I have heard absolutely nothing about a girlfriend other than on here. He did it because he was an immature person who hated rich kids.

And the Columbine anniversary is today, so it had nothing to do with that. It's just a coincidence that its on the same week.

[YouFail]

Can someone please give me an article that said he had and killed an ex-girlfriend? Ive been following this since it happened, and I have heard absolutely nothing about a girlfriend other than on here. He did it because he was an immature person who hated rich kids.

And the Columbine anniversary is today, so it had nothing to do with that. It's just a coincidence that its on the same week.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=448955&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

[SusieC]

I find it horrible that there is someone as mad and lonely as this that can kill so many people and then kill himself.

[OMGitsaROSS]

Americans teaching friendly fire at a young age... :rolleyes:

on a serious note, its awful :(

[le harry]

I think this "Girlfriend" may have just been a figment of his imagination or something, I have no idea really.

www.vt.edu

That's the university wesite. Depressing stuff

[RedStratocas]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=448955&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

That article is false, the 2 people shot in the beginning were both students, not an adviser. I suspected that story wouldnt be trust worthy, the first sentence doesnt make any sense:


Terrified students lined up against the wall of their classroom and shot, execution-style.

That makes it sound like the students were the ones shooting. It should be:


Terrified students lined up against the wall of their classroom and were shot, execution-style.

Everyone interviewed said he was a loner. I dont see how a girlfriend fits into everyone else's story unless he is schizophrenic.

[le harry]

Either, I guess that was just an unconfirmed report leaked into the media. I'm starting to have its doubts. I know the first two victims was a university girl and a black man (teacher/student) who walked in at the wrong time.

[PaulMacC]

I'm watching some video's on youtube now.
I've seen some victim's myspace and it's very emotional.
Families are saying '' Call me to make sure you alright '' hours later there dead

[-Soph-]

I'm watching some video's on youtube now.
I've seen some victim's myspace and it's very emotional.
Families are saying '' Call me to make sure you alright '' hours later there dead

yeah that really got me down.

[Roboevil]

I doubt he had any psychological problems at all. I assume he didn't like his life and hated everyone or whatever but as far as insanity, I very much doubt it, people overrate insanity. People are probably just saying he was insane to make things seem more humane. To think someone would dat that seems inhumane and people would be scared thinking that anyone could suddenely turn around one day and gun everyone down, knowing that he was out of his mind makes things seem better.

[le harry]

Yeah, I saw some myspace's knowing that the people who own them are dead =/ Depressing..

[-Soph-]

I doubt he had any psychological problems at all. I assume he didn't like his life and hated everyone or whatever but as far as insanity, I very much doubt it, people overrate insanity. People are probably just saying he was insane to make things seem more humane. To think someone would dat that seems inhumane and people would be scared thinking that anyone could suddenely turn around one day and gun everyone down, knowing that he was out of his mind makes things seem better.

must say i'm agreeing with you, not all mass murders are insane.
I could get a list of ones that aren't.

[le harry]

get me a list.

[-Soph-]

I meant off the top of my head, can't you come up with enough yourself lmao?

For example, the 9/11 attacks, they were obviously huge, the people who carried those out were right in the head to my knowledge.

[le harry]

Obviously they arn't, what sane person wants to fly a plane into a building

[Ekalb]

Obviously they arn't, what sane person wants to fly a plane into a building

They obviously knew what they were doing, they were dyeing and killing in the name of the god and through this religious sacrifice they will beleive they will make it to paradise.

[RedStratocas]

I meant off the top of my head, can't you come up with enough yourself lmao?

For example, the 9/11 attacks, they were obviously huge, the people who carried those out were right in the head to my knowledge.

Depends on what you consider insane. They were definitely brain washed.


I doubt he had any psychological problems at all. I assume he didn't like his life and hated everyone or whatever but as far as insanity, I very much doubt it, people overrate insanity. People are probably just saying he was insane to make things seem more humane. To think someone would dat that seems inhumane and people would be scared thinking that anyone could suddenely turn around one day and gun everyone down, knowing that he was out of his mind makes things seem better.

He was in a psychiatric institution for some time, and he was on anti-depressants. He had psychiatric problems.