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Oni
17-04-2007, 06:16 PM
Wierd thread but ah well
I rekon:
Mentor [coder]
Joecomins [Designer]
Sygon [both]
What do you think?

Sunny.
17-04-2007, 06:18 PM
Adam .

Oni
17-04-2007, 06:18 PM
Adam .
3....Have you ever seen sygon or joes work?

F32
17-04-2007, 06:19 PM
It depends you know, because people have come and left and people could've got better/worse.

Also, there's such a vast array of different designers and coders.

Say,

Me, Simon and Kieron all do pixel layouts.

Sy, Joe and RK all do 'professional layouts'.

I couldn't really say because of the different styles and such.

Oni
17-04-2007, 06:20 PM
It depends you know, because people have come and left and people could've got better/worse.

Also, there's such a vast array of different designers and coders.

Say,

Me, Simon and Kieron all do pixel layouts.

Sy, Joe and RK all do 'professional layouts'.

I couldn't really say because of the different styles and such.
Maybe different styles but you can still say which ones look nicer.

Mr.OSH
17-04-2007, 06:20 PM
Mentor (Carl) for coding.

I'm not sure about designers really I've seen allot of good designers on the forum to be honest.

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:23 PM
Best coder - Nets/Josh Or Carl/Menton

F32
17-04-2007, 06:25 PM
Maybe different styles but you can still say which ones look nicer.
It's like comparing a chicken to a cow - sure, they're both animals but one produces milk, another produces eggs etc.

Oni
17-04-2007, 06:25 PM
Best coder - Nets/Josh Or Carl/Menton
I forgot about nets :o
and adam its not its the same as me asking your favirote food, they all taste different.

Recursion
17-04-2007, 06:28 PM
Wierd thread but ah well
I rekon:
Mentor [coder]
Joecomins [Designer]
Sygon [both]
What do you think?

Agreed!! There work could sell for thousands I reckon. They should go into the professional web design business :)

F32
17-04-2007, 06:28 PM
I forgot about nets :o
and adam its not its the same as me asking your favirote food, they all taste different.
You're so missing the point here.

ScottDiamond
17-04-2007, 06:29 PM
[oli] is by far the best designer.
nets is very good at coding.
Carl is very good at coding.

Oni
17-04-2007, 06:29 PM
You're so missing the point here.
Im not as pixel and 'professional' layouts arent as different as milk and eggs.
also for those who dont know an example of his work [not the best]
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=297686

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:29 PM
Agreed!! There work could sell for thousands I reckon. They should go into the professional web design business :)

Already am technically.


[oli] is by far the best designer.
nets is very good at coding.
Carl is very good at coding.

Oli's layouts are just unique not the best they have some of the major errors in design.

YouFail
17-04-2007, 06:31 PM
Ozzie. You cant actually judge as Adam said.

Its personal preference.

I dont like 'grunge', 'filled' layouts, I prefer sleek and clean. Others have different views.

[Oli]
17-04-2007, 06:33 PM
Oli's layouts are just unique not the best they have some of the major errors in design.

Which are.. :p
I really don't mind C&C, but you have to tell me the erros, not keep them with you :p

(sorry if you did post them, must of looked over them then)

Oni
17-04-2007, 06:33 PM
Thats why im asking for your personal preferance ''/

F32
17-04-2007, 06:35 PM
Thats why im asking for your personal preferance ''/
You contadict yourself;
Top 3 Best designers and coders there have ever been on the forum (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=342660)

Doesn't say anything about personal preference?

It asks for the top.

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:37 PM
;3399527']Which are.. :p
I really don't mind C&C, but you have to tell me the erros, not keep them with you :p

(sorry if you did post them, must of looked over them then)

:P, I love your designs, i hope you didnt take offence by that but still let me give you an example:

http://www.2nd-design.com/designs/protravel/

- It all looks good and proffesional, yet it looks dull the text used in the logo doesnt actually feel like it represents the site, and the site is dull which also doesnt make the USER fill that this site is about holidays and its going to be a good one, its all about the user.

:) But then again i see designs like that racing cart one which imo is perfect and doesnt need anything else to it. who knows

this thread shouldnt have really been started as it will be turned into one big argument and who cares all i really care about is making my self and helping others to get better so we can all learn instead of squabble about who is the best

sorry george not with you on this one.

redtom
17-04-2007, 06:38 PM
[oli], Joe & Nets

F32
17-04-2007, 06:39 PM
:P, I love your designs, i hope you didnt take offence by that but still let me give you an example:

http://www.2nd-design.com/designs/protravel/

- It all looks good and proffesional, yet it looks dull the text used in the logo doesnt actually feel like it represents the site, and the site is dull which also doesnt make the USER fill that this site is about holidays and its going to be a good one, its all about the user.

:) But then again i see designs like that racing cart one which imo is perfect and doesnt need anything else to it. who knows

this thread shouldnt have really been started as it will be turned into one big argument and who cares all i really care about is making my self and helping others to get better so we can all learn instead of squabble about who is the best

sorry george not with you on this one.
The logo is the companies, thus cannot be changed [:

I think.

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:39 PM
The logo is the companies, thus cannot be changed [:

I think.

Meh adds to the dullness.

Mr Macro
17-04-2007, 06:41 PM
That Entor110110 or w/e the numbers are guy is great at coding.

I.E The thybag.co.uk guy

RNelson
17-04-2007, 06:44 PM
I was thinking that too ;D

Also I don't have a top 3 I know alot good designers etc like Sygon, Oli blah blah and lots good coders like Nets, Carl etc ;D
Meh adds to the dullness.

[Oli]
17-04-2007, 06:45 PM
:P, I love your designs, i hope you didnt take offence by that but still let me give you an example:

http://www.2nd-design.com/designs/protravel/

- It all looks good and proffesional, yet it looks dull the text used in the logo doesnt actually feel like it represents the site, and the site is dull which also doesnt make the USER fill that this site is about holidays and its going to be a good one, its all about the user.

:) But then again i see designs like that racing cart one which imo is perfect and doesnt need anything else to it. who knows

this thread shouldnt have really been started as it will be turned into one big argument and who cares all i really care about is making my self and helping others to get better so we can all learn instead of squabble about who is the best

sorry george not with you on this one.

Noo, offcource I don't feel offended :p
Yeah, that travel one, the logo is the one of the company itself, it is placed on all their cars and busses etc... so I can not change that.

And, well.. Client is King as they say... I just follow orders of the Client, he wanted a more playfull design. He has already agreed on the design so...

Like I just finished one which i'm getting €500 for, which is COMPLETLY not my style, but if thats what the client wants, thats what i'll give them ;p

Anyway thank you for your comment/opinion.

I'll keep those in mind for my future projects i got lined up.

Oni
17-04-2007, 06:46 PM
At the end of the first post it says 'What do you think?'. Blatently asking for your opinion.

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:47 PM
;3399595']Noo, offcource I don't feel offended :p
Yeah, that travel one, the logo is the one of the company itself, it is placed on all their cars and busses etc... so I can not change that.

And, well.. Client is King as they say... I just follow orders of the Client, he wanted a more playfull design. He has already agreed on the design so...

Like I just finished one which i'm getting €500 for, which is COMPLETLY not my style, but if thats what the client wants, thats what i'll give them ;p

Anyway thank you for your comment/opinion.

I'll keep those in mind for my future projects i got lined up.

As the designer you have to inform the client of what people want these days too and try to help them, show them the light ;p

[Oli]
17-04-2007, 06:51 PM
As the designer you have to inform the client of what people want these days too and try to help them, show them the light ;p

Hehe, well yeah, .. In july/august i'm going for a "business" trip to New York for someone's site. And to Tunisia for that travel design.

I will talk to them, and might edit the design etc.

Thanks for the pointers!


ONTOPIC,
I don't have a TOP, everybody likes different styles, and sygon & joe Comins and all the other designers, they make several designs,.. some i like, some i dislike... thats the way of life :p

redtom
17-04-2007, 06:51 PM
As the designer you have to inform the client of what people want these days too and try to help them, show them the light ;p

A company will not replace all there logos because it does't go with one of there site layouts.

Mentor
17-04-2007, 06:55 PM
As the designer you have to inform the client of what people want these days too and try to help them, show them the light ;p
There paying you to provide what they want, not make something that you think looks nice.

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:55 PM
Sorry to post but its funny i looked back on my old user

Sygon (http://habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17488)

And its funny to see how far i have come from then look at some of these threads:

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=108619
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=126272

lol avatars: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=126893

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 06:58 PM
There paying you to provide what they want, not make something that you think looks nice.

Well i read an article once, about client guides or whatever. that the client actually would like to help with input aswell, would you seriously con a person out of 100 pounds if they wanted you to design a really crappy web layout? i would atleast give my view.


A company will not replace all there logos because it does't go with one of there site layouts.

And im not saying they will? im saying is that a custom logo from him or the companys as it looks lik some text with their name on which i assumed oli made?

[Oli]
17-04-2007, 07:00 PM
Hehe, I don't like the logo either.
And i didnt make it ;)

Logo and content were given to me ;)

Oni
17-04-2007, 07:02 PM
Sorry to post but its funny i looked back on my old user

Sygon (http://habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17488)

And its funny to see how far i have come from then look at some of these threads:

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=108619
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=126272

lol avatars: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=126893
lol Habbo UK Name: None habbos gay
and I remember the domokun obsession

Mentor
17-04-2007, 07:06 PM
Well i read an article once, about client guides or whatever. that the client actually would like to help with input aswell, would you seriously con a person out of 100 pounds if they wanted you to design a really crappy web layout? i would at least give my view.
If i go to a resterant, order chicken and they give me turkey becuse they think its better, im not going to be to happy. a waiter may make a suggestion to whats nice, but thats all, they don't go and decide for you, no ones going to pay for something they didn't ask you to make.
Just because you think something looks crap, it doesn't mean they do.

RYANNNNN
17-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Personally I don't think there are any good designers on habboxforum, I've seen a few templates that stand out against the rest on here, but some of the competition on here isn't that great.

As for coders, I don't really know any decent coders either - I'm sure there probably are but I haven't actually spoke to any of them.

Oni
17-04-2007, 07:38 PM
Personally I don't think there are any good designers on habboxforum, I've seen a few templates that stand out against the rest on here, but some of the competition on here isn't that great.

As for coders, I don't really know any decent coders either - I'm sure there probably are but I haven't actually spoke to any of them.
You need to bare in mind most of us are teenagers.

RYANNNNN
17-04-2007, 08:17 PM
You need to bare in mind most of us are teenagers.

I'm not slating you, some of you persevere design alot which is good.

All I am saying is, I don't think there are any good designers on this forum..

This is what I call a good designer with reasonable prices, I think he starts from $150 upwards.
http://mindember.com/clients/

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 08:20 PM
I'm not slating you, some of you persevere design alot which is good.

All I am saying is, I don't think there are any good designers on this forum..

This is what I call a good designer with reasonable prices, I think he starts from $150 upwards.
http://mindember.com/clients/

And when have you seen my latest work?

Never.

RYANNNNN
17-04-2007, 08:21 PM
I haven't Sygon, which is why I can't say.

Sygon..
17-04-2007, 08:23 PM
I haven't Sygon, which is why I can't say.

Good. PM me your MSN havent talked in a while.

timROGERS
17-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Sorry to post but its funny i looked back on my old user

Sygon (http://habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17488)

And its funny to see how far i have come from then look at some of these threads:

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=108619
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=126272

lol avatars: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=126893

Good old days, eh Sygon ;)

I wouldn't really want to say who were the best people, as it's a little subjective, and it's mean to other people.

Andys
17-04-2007, 08:44 PM
Adam [Designer]
Sygon [Both]
idk who else ;[

Mentor
17-04-2007, 09:45 PM
I'm not slating you, some of you persevere design alot which is good.

All I am saying is, I don't think there are any good designers on this forum..

This is what I call a good designer with reasonable prices, I think he starts from $150 upwards.
http://mindember.com/clients/

No offense, but your "good" designers work aint all that good, most of joes later stuff and quite a bit of sygon's and olis ive seen is of a much higher standard in my opinion. Theres nothing my random clicking shown me in there that stands out, but then again $150 up is chicken scratch compared to what it costs to get a real professional.
You know places like, http://www.2advanced.com etc

Unban Slixor
18-04-2007, 12:48 PM
Joecomins [Designer]
Sygon [both]

^^ lmao at those two people, tbh there average, not amazing

RYANNNNN
18-04-2007, 02:37 PM
No offense, but your "good" designers work aint all that good, most of joes later stuff and quite a bit of sygon's and olis ive seen is of a much higher standard in my opinion. Theres nothing my random clicking shown me in there that stands out, but then again $150 up is chicken scratch compared to what it costs to get a real professional.
You know places like, http://www.2advanced.com etc

I guess we just have different tastes in style then, personally I think all of the work in that portfolio beats their layouts, well - oli's, I haven't seen any of Sygon's in a while apart from one which I saw yesterday - and I think that portfolio was better than both of theirs, but like I said - we all have different tastes.

redtom
18-04-2007, 02:50 PM
^^ lmao at those two people, tbh there average, not amazing

There the best on this forum, and there far better then you.

Sygon..
18-04-2007, 02:58 PM
^^ lmao at those two people, tbh there average, not amazing

You got some fetish with trying to hate me or joe

RNelson
18-04-2007, 03:00 PM
Jealousy I think he's jealous of you because you are better :)
You got some fetish with trying to hate me or joe

Luckyrare
18-04-2007, 03:58 PM
Josh is very good at javascript, Carl is good in a number of languages. I think both Sygons and Joes designs are good but can get very "samey". Slixer is simply ok, I feel any designer who is full of them selfs and dont put them selfs down usualy end up doing lame work.

:Edzy
18-04-2007, 05:56 PM
Danny - very devoted
redtom - general leetness
and that guy who left but was rele good in all sections, he had a band, i forget his name

Ryan.
18-04-2007, 06:08 PM
Danny - very devoted
redtom - general leetness
and that guy who left but was rele good in all sections, he had a band, i forget his name
Joe commins?

Mentor
18-04-2007, 06:32 PM
Danny - very devoted
redtom - general leetness
and that guy who left but was rele good in all sections, he had a band, i forget his name
Do you by any chance maybe mean <james> or JT as i think he later called himself?

Sam
18-04-2007, 10:52 PM
Nets [Josh] - Coding
Mentor [Carl] - Coding
Dan-Williamson [Dan] ;D - Both
-JT- [James] - Both

Sorry but i also have to include Mr Syy [Sygon] - Both

Yeah so i put 5.

Agnostic Bear
18-04-2007, 11:14 PM
I nominate me as all 5.

Edit: I mean 3 >_>

Jamie.
19-04-2007, 03:43 PM
It's like comparing a chicken to a cow - sure, they're both animals but one produces milk, another produces eggs etc.

agree'd. Also i don't like to judge people on there work i judge by who they are and what there capable of because some "noob" may make a one off fantastic peice and loads of crap 1s so if you were to normally make average+ layout and peices of work thats what i'd judge on.

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