cheating ***** scum bags

[Barkseh2131]

:@:@:@

[Carlos]

who???

[Barkseh2131]

who???

p.chech, tht ball was over the line.

[Jackk]

deffo over the line. the linesman was no where near the net to have called that!

[Browney]

You can see it clear on video playback.

[Sharpsterz]

hahahahaha 1-0 hahahahaha

[Jordie]

how can you say this crap... giggs pushes him over the line would have been a freekick anyway..

[Barkseh2131]

how can you say this crap... giggs pushes him over the line would have been a freekick anyway..

If Giggs pushed him over the line why the **** did chech not get a free kick?

[Jordie]

If Giggs pushed him over the line why the **** did chech not get a free kick?


ref played the advantage... and it was hard to see whether the WHOLE ball was actualli over the line, stop crying over it you lost fair and square

[Barkseh2131]

ref played the advantage... and it was hard to see whether the WHOLE ball was actualli over the line, stop crying over it you lost fair and square

Yet again you’re getting mixed up with what you’re seeing. What evidence do you have that I was/am crying?

Even Andy Grey and most of the sports panel on the main show agreed that it should of either been a penalty or a goal.

[Jordie]

Yet again you’re getting mixed up with what you’re seeing. What evidence do you have that I was/am crying?

Even Andy Grey and most of the sports panel on the main show agreed that it should of either been a penalty or a goal.


penalty... where is a foul commited in the play... and i have evidence just look at your thread ********* cheating ********** get over it lol:)

[Jamie!]

jord, if the ref was going to give a free-kick for giggs pushing him over the line.. he would have blew up.

but at the end of the day, it weren't given so nowt can be done about it.

[Barkseh2131]

penalty... where is a foul commited in the play... and i have evidence just look at your thread ********* cheating ********** get over it lol:)

You can tell if someone is crying by looking at there text?? (freak)

And if you watch the reply again you will see he gets pulled down before he slides in.

And no I wont get over it, you’re obviously not a real football fan because real football fans cannot get over things like that so quick.


Edited by Yoshimitsui (Forum Moderator): Please don't be rude.

[Jordie]

You can tell if someone is crying by looking at there text?? (freak)

And if you watch the reply again you will see he gets pulled down before he slides in.

And no I wont get over it, you’re obviously not a real football fan because real football fans cannot get over things like that so quick.


lol k... 1-0

[Barkseh2131]

lol k... 1-0

Lol kk league 1.

[Browney]

lol k... 1-0

Your argument fails so you resort to repeating the score over and over again? Well done. You showed him.

[Tom H]

WELL IN DROGBA! :D

[Jordie]

Lol kk league 1.


glory hunter..

[Barkseh2131]

glory hunter..

Manchester United were **** when i first started supporting them. Age 3.

I'd call you a glory hunter but...... well ya know ;)

[Pixel]

penalty... where is a foul commited in the play... and i have evidence just look at your thread ********* cheating ********** get over it lol:)

There was a foul..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oT_b0MSmNw

Skip to 1:35 to see it yourself, giggs was fouled from behind by the look of it so it should have been a peno.. Although I haven't seen it from another angle

(This is coming from an Arsenal fan btw)

[Jordie]

Manchester United were **** when i first started supporting them. Age 3.

I'd call you a glory hunter but...... well ya know ;)


kk..
u have to make a thread saying cheating but really you cnt take that you have lost to a far superior team, de de de didier drogba de de de didier drogba

[Jamie!]

kk..
u have to make a thread saying cheating but really you cnt take that you have lost to a far superior team, de de de didier drogba de de de didier drogba

far superior team? i actually thought you used to talk sense until this thread.. how can they be 'far superior'? :S


Lol kk league 1.

erm.. nowt wrong with league 1 :P

[Barkseh2131]

kk..
u have to make a thread saying cheating but really you cnt take that you have lost to a far superior team, de de de didier drogba de de de didier drogba

Luton, forgive me if I'm wrong but aint that in London?? Which makes Chelsea one of your rivals?? some fan you are chanting one of your rivals players. :rolleyes:

[Browney]

kk..
u have to make a thread saying cheating but really you cnt take that you have lost to a far superior team, de de de didier drogba de de de didier drogba

Trying to keep my nose out of trouble but here goes: The Premiership proves that Chelsea are not far superior. Both matches in the Premiership were cut close and draws. It all depends on how the team plays on the night.

[Soka]

im a fan of neither teams and imo nobody played sparkling

from what i can see the ball did cross the line, but as a result of giggs clambering in to him by accident, so it shouldn't be a goal or a foul and just a goal kick [imo]

did you know to win the fa cup you've only got to win 7 games......
where as premiership is over 38 matches, so i would regard the premiership as alot more important and valuable than the FA Cup where they go in at 3rd round.

[Jordie]

Luton, forgive me if I'm wrong but aint that in London?? Which makes Chelsea one of your rivals?? some fan you are chanting one of your rivals players. :rolleyes:


everyone is our rivals:)

[Browney]

everyone is our rivals:)

Which proves his point that you're cheering for a different team? Unless it's the whole lesser of two evils things.

[Jordie]

Which proves his point that you're cheering for a different team? Unless it's the whole lesser of two evils things.


im cheering because i just believe hes made this thread because he cannot take losing, its a waste of a thread and im not arguing anymore because i dnt want to lose friends

[Ramones]

I think chelsea are a better TEAM, united's individuals (ronaldo and rooney) shined for them in premiership, but when they have a bad game like today united lose. So i think the best TEAM won.

[Barkseh2131]

im cheering because i just believe hes made this thread because he cannot take losing, its a waste of a thread and im not arguing anymore because i dnt want to lose friends

I can take losing, I'm just angry because MY team was cheated which I'm sure is acceptble?

[Jordie]

I can take losing, I'm just angry because MY team was cheated which I'm sure is acceptble?


yes but im just arguing my case as i dnt believe it was a goal or penalty
i thought cech was buddled over the line by giggs in which should have resulted in a free kick and i believe the ref played the advantage as neither he or the assistant could see if the whole ball was over the line..
kk im finished now:)

[Browney]

I think chelsea are a better TEAM, united's individuals (ronaldo and rooney) shined for them in premiership, but when they have a bad game like today united lose. So i think the best TEAM won.

Fair comment. I don't think the Man U players "meshed" today.

[VPSwow]

Im in an open mind to wether it should of been a penalty or goal.

Not really bothered to be honest though and my team are now in league 1!

[English]

I think chelsea are a better TEAM, united's individuals (ronaldo and rooney) shined for them in premiership, but when they have a bad game like today united lose. So i think the best TEAM won.
I have to disagree, although Rooney wasn't amazing he still played well. (Note I am a Liverpool fan and actually wanted Chelsea to win because I hate Man Utd with a passion)

[:alexxTURNER]

The ball wasn't over the line when Cech caught it, but when giggs
pushed him it was over the line.

Anyway its over with now, Man Utd lost which is GREAT. Chelsea won which is better than Man Utd winning, i still don't like chelsea though.

1-0, good goal by Drogba, leave it. Nothing can happen about it now. You can moan as much as you want but nothing can be done.

Rooney was good especially some of his runs, they were awesome

Anyway, I despise Man Utd so im glad they lost.

[DCeption]

Penalty at least imo, essien with a tackle from behind. And surely Joe Cole should have been booked for that late two footed tackle?

[edible]

mhmm, Well from what I saw, when Giggs was going to the ground whilst Cech had the ball, he kind of moved him over to behind the line (I dont think he meant to either) I didnt see Giggs get fouled/pushed so yeahh, but I reckon the ref made a good decision.

Neither of the teams played good till ET tbhh.

Well done Chelsea (:

[Zuay]

At the end of the day, you lost.

[Ramones]

I have to disagree, although Rooney wasn't amazing he still played well. (Note I am a Liverpool fan and actually wanted Chelsea to win because I hate Man Utd with a passion)

I suppose so, even though he couldn't finish to save his life even if he was offside those shots were pretty bad, he did work hard though.

[Zuay]

Well Done CHELSEA.

Up yours UTD.

[Browney]

Well Done CHELSEA.

Up yours UTD.

Wow, gracious in winning aswell. :rolleyes:

[Ahhlex]

I'm a big Manchester United fan and really do dislike Chelsea but this thread is just one of those spur of the moment things that could of been written by any one of us.
In my opinion and of most other people involved with football, this situation was not a foul and the referee made the correct decision. Petr Cech clearly had the ball safe and then Giggs came thundering into him and therefore pushed the ball over the line. Yes the ball went over the line, but Giggs wouldnt of got the ball any other way so it's illegal to do that and is not a penalty. However, others are saying that Essien caught Giggs from the back and then caused him to trip into Cech. In my opinion the attack was already over and Giggs wouldn't of got to the ball even if he wasn't 'tripped' from behind my Essien, plus it didn't look like Essien tripped Ryan Giggs over on purpose so I have to say the referee got it spot on.
It's all over now, Man Utd have won the league, Chelsea have won the FA Cup. End of, tommorow's a different day, different sports to talk about!

[Barkseh2131]

I'm a big Manchester United fan and really do dislike Chelsea but this thread is just one of those spur of the moment things that could of been written by any one of us.
In my opinion and of most other people involved with football, this situation was not a foul and the referee made the correct decision. Petr Cech clearly had the ball safe and then Giggs came thundering into him and therefore pushed the ball over the line. Yes the ball went over the line, but Giggs wouldnt of got the ball any other way so it's illegal to do that and is not a penalty. However, others are saying that Essien caught Giggs from the back and then caused him to trip into Cech. In my opinion the attack was already over and Giggs wouldn't of got to the ball even if he wasn't 'tripped' from behind my Essien, plus it didn't look like Essien tripped Ryan Giggs over on purpose so I have to say the referee got it spot on.
It's all over now, Man Utd have won the league, Chelsea have won the FA Cup. End of, tommorow's a different day, different sports to talk about!

I still think we should of had the goal but I do regret making this thread :P

I was v.angry.

[Jordie]

Penalty at least imo, essien with a tackle from behind. And surely Joe Cole should have been booked for that late two footed tackle?


he has to challenge for the ball i see no reason to give a penalty in that situation, if essien didnt make some sort of challenge giggs would have scored..

[Ahhlex]

I still think we should of had the goal but I do regret making this thread :P

I was v.angry.
I don't blame you, something I think we've all done at some time to be honest. Anyway at least it's put up a good firey debate.:P

[Browney]

he has to challenge for the ball i see no reason to give a penalty in that situation, if essien didnt make some sort of challenge giggs would have scored..

But you can see now that Essien is nowhere near the ball when he lunges. He got lucky to not be penalised. But on the other hand Giggs sliding into Cech isn't very angelic.

[Eckuii]

well when Giggs goes for the ball (And this is coming from a Leeds fan), Essien is making a "Tackle" (If thats what you want to call it) on Giggs. More like a kick up the a*** which should of been a penalty, he didnt get any of the ball.
Essien's tackle then put more momentium into Giggs who went sliding into the keeper and the ball did clearly go over the line :s.
They didnt give a freekick and they just let play resume, they shouldnt of played the advantage (If thats what the ref meant to do) becuase there was no advantage to be played when Cech had the ball :S.
I thought that the advantage was when a team was attacking and get fouled and then carry on attacking. :s (Obviously I may be wrong).

I think it should of been a goal but at the time the ref has to make a big decision in an FA Cup Final, maybe the wrong or the right one.

Video Ref's need to come into English football now, I dont see why the 4th offical cant be the most important man. He could look at the video's on the Ref's request and see from each angle what decision should be given, and then tell the Ref by them stupid microphone or w.e things they have.

Another thing, wasnt the atmosphere in the ground rubbish? :s maybe because there was only 50,000 fans put together. The rest was MP's and people that really dont care about football :S.
stupid idea giving them the tickets.

[Wizzdom]

Well done the blues, unlucky Paul :D

[Jamie!]

Another thing, wasnt the atmosphere in the ground rubbish? :s maybe because there was only 50,000 fans put together. The rest was MP's and people that really dont care about football :S.
stupid idea giving them the tickets.

you've just pointed out one of the things i really hate about football nowadays.. most of the crowd being sponsors/corparate guests at the big games.

40,000 out of the 90,000 there yesterday were corparate guests, and then they wonder why the FA cup isn't the same for fans as it was 10years ago :rolleyes:.

was reading the paper today about the champions league final, and liverpool/ac milan have only got allocated 17,000 tickets each. and out of those 17,000 liverpool have recieved, only 11,000 will be given to the fans, and the other 6,000 will be given to sponsors etc. it also said that 15,000 seats will not be used in the stadium on wednesday because they are been used as space to erect advertising hoardings.. whats the point??

[Jordie]

But you can see now that Essien is nowhere near the ball when he lunges. He got lucky to not be penalised. But on the other hand Giggs sliding into Cech isn't very angelic.


overall though its a very hard decision to give especially in a game like that

[Brody]

the game was crap imo the ball went overtheline but i can understand why the linesman didnt give it as alan smith was in the way of his view

[Simmzay]

Since when is forcing someone over the line considered a goal? That Andy Gray is a real idiot I must say.

[Jordie]

Since when is forcing someone over the line considered a goal? That Andy Gray is a real idiot I must say.


i hate that lawrence bloke off bbc, he chats total rubbish:@

[reindeer.]

I'd have sent Cole off for that two footer.

[Browney]

Since when is forcing someone over the line considered a goal? That Andy Gray is a real idiot I must say.

Like I said, If it wasn't for Essien tripping Giggs, Giggs would've reached the ball and got the goal. But Giggs got tripped and crashed into Cech. I don't think he planned to dive into a goalie while sliding on his ****.

[ownedpls]

p.chech, tht ball was over the line.
Exactly I saw that on slowed down replay!

[Simmzay]

Like I said, If it wasn't for Essien tripping Giggs, Giggs would've reached the ball and got the goal. But Giggs got tripped and crashed into Cech. I don't think he planned to dive into a goalie while sliding on his ****.
It doesn't matter. I'm only referring to the incident of the goalkeeper being forced over, if nothing was called beforehand then technically there's nothing to worry about. I never said Giggs was in fault - just that it wasn't a goal.