Metal.

[blackmetal1988]

Post your favourite metal bands here..

[clarissa !!]

i dont like any metal bands.

[Zuay]

Slayer, Gojira.

[chilloutrich]

disturbed, killswitch engage, soil, 36 crazyfists, bullet for my valentine, children of bodom, lamb of god, evanescence, nickelback, rage against the machine, shadows fall, trivium.


tata for now.:rolleyes:

[samsaBEAR]

you live in kent. high five. i do to
but yeh, im not a fan of metal. metal is too repitive for me, long songs, with more than half taken by high-pitched, very fast guitar solos that all sound the same.

[Seren]

disturbed.

[YoManGo!]

disturbed, killswitch engage, soil, 36 crazyfists, bullet for my valentine, children of bodom, lamb of god, evanescence, nickelback, rage against the machine, shadows fall, trivium.


tata for now.:rolleyes:

you realise most those aren't metal... right? nickelback? evanescence? RATM?

Pantera, Korpiklaani, Slayer, Mastodon, Megadeth. I don't like metal much.

[Neil]

disturbed, killswitch engage, soil, 36 crazyfists, bullet for my valentine, children of bodom, lamb of god, evanescence, nickelback, rage against the machine, shadows fall, trivium.


tata for now.:rolleyes:

Lol you said Nickelback xD

Chimaira, SlipKnoT, Disturbed, Trivium, Dope (I think it's nu-metal xD), Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Mudvayne, Wednesday 13, Marilyn Manson, Soil, Trapt, Metallica, Deftones, some is probably rock but I don't care xD

[-mark74-]

Metallica,Megadeth,Judas Priest,Pantera,Motorhead,Slayer,Dio,Testament,
Kreator.


disturbed, killswitch engage, soil, 36 crazyfists, bullet for my valentine, children of bodom, lamb of god, evanescence, nickelback, rage against the machine, shadows fall, trivium.

They aint metal especially nickelback..



Post your favourite metal bands here..


Put more effort into your thread.. Name your favorite to try and start a discussion..

[Ezzie.]

Disturbed/Metallica/bit of Trivium/Lordi!/S club 7/Iron Maiden , etc

[Concentric2]

Iron Maiden! :eusa_danc

[chilloutrich]

you realise most those aren't metal... right? nickelback? evanescence? RATM?

Pantera, Korpiklaani, Slayer, Mastodon, Megadeth. I don't like metal much.

dude, dont tell me whats metal and what isnt. all those bands have metal in them, and yes nickelback are metal to all u cool dudes that say they arent:) tararr

[Jõnathan]

Disturbed/Metallica/bit of Trivium/Lordi!/S club 7/Iron Maiden , etc
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AT S CLUB 7

I don't really like any metal bands to be honest. I don't know if you could count 30 Seconds To Mars or 36 Crazyfists as metal.
Maybe 36 Crazyfists but I dunno

[cocaine]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AT S CLUB 7

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL MAYBE HE WAS JOKING!

lmao, Lostprophets are classed as "metal"

it says so on my itunes, and i have bought the album..

[samsaBEAR]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AT S CLUB 7

I don't really like any metal bands to be honest. I don't know if you could count 30 Seconds To Mars or 36 Crazyfists as metal.
Maybe 36 Crazyfists but I dunno
i doubt 30 seconds to mars counts as metal :p

[English]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL MAYBE HE WAS JOKING!

lmao, Lostprophets are classed as "metal"

it says so on my itunes, and i have bought the album..
Just because itunes says that doesn't mean they are metal -_-

When I'm in the mood for it, I listen to loads of metal. Mainly metalcore/hardcore/screamo(isn't exactly metal, but pretty much)

[Ezzie.]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL MAYBE HE WAS JOKING!

lmao, Lostprophets are classed as "metal"

it says so on my itunes, and i have bought the album..

I was being deadly serious :O:P

[Misawa]

Yeah, never follow music websites's definition of genres. For example, AOL the other day said "Grunge is back" and then listed McFly, Avril lavigne and Fallout Boy.

[Ezzie.]

Yeah, never follow music websites's definition of genres. For example, AOL the other day said "Grunge is back" and then listed McFly, Avril lavigne and Fallout Boy.

You're kidding :P that's just.. eurgh..

I hope music gets revived, Hendrix rises from the grave, led zepp reform, dire straits release some new songs!

Because quite frankly i'm sick of "indie" and "pop/rock" eurgh.. bunch of ponses.

Roll on classic rockkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[English]

You're kidding :P that's just.. eurgh..

I hope music gets revived, Hendrix rises from the grave, led zepp reform, dire straits release some new songs!

Because quite frankly i'm sick of "indie" and "pop/rock" eurgh.. bunch of ponses.

Roll on classic rockkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Stop living in the past.

[Misawa]

You're kidding :P that's just.. eurgh..

I hope music gets revived, Hendrix rises from the grave, led zepp reform, dire straits release some new songs!

Because quite frankly i'm sick of "indie" and "pop/rock" eurgh.. bunch of ponses.

Roll on classic rockkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


I agree "indie" which is meant to be independant and unknown is for some reason the label of modern light rock bands who are internationally famous. And as for pop-rock, EUGH.

I am to be honest, not a fan of classic rock too much. I prefer modern heavy rock like Disturbed, Three Days Grace, and of course, the greatest band in the world, Breaking Benjamin.

[samsaBEAR]

i give up on genres since i saw the cooper temple clause classified as post-hardcore, when they're about as hardcore as a knited jumper.

what i dont get with indie, is if its meant to be indiependant and all that, a lot really does sound the same. dont get me wrong, i may not be the world's greatest lover of indie, but i dont hate it, it just strikes me as odd

[English]

I am to be honest, not a fan of classic rock too much. I prefer modern heavy rock like Disturbed, Three Days Grace, and of course, the greatest band in the world, Breaking Benjamin.
Heavy rock? Since when are any of those heavy?

i give up on genres since i saw the cooper temple clause classified as post-hardcore, when they're about as hardcore as a knited jumper.

The thing is, with genres it's not what itunes(piece of crap) or whatever you use brands it as, it's what the artists/band actually are.

[Misawa]

Heavy rock? Since when are any of those heavy?

The thing is, with genres it's not what itunes(piece of crap) or whatever you use brands it as, it's what the artists/band actually are.

Whoa, do you even know what heavy rock is? You're saying that DISTURBED, THREE DAYS GRACE and BREAKING BENJAMIN are not heavy rock bands... wow, I think you need a music lesson.

[English]

Whoa, do you even know what heavy rock is? You're saying that DISTURBED, THREE DAYS GRACE and BREAKING BENJAMIN are not heavy rock bands... wow, I think you need a music lesson.
You need a music lesson you stupid fool. Disturbed - They are alternative metal. Hardly "heavy rock". Second of all Breaking Benjamin are alternative rock. And Three Days Grace are alternative rock/post-grunge. Not "heavy rock" as you stupidly described them.

[samsaBEAR]

Heavy rock? Since when are any of those heavy?

The thing is, with genres it's not what itunes(piece of crap) or whatever you use brands it as, it's what the artists/band actually are.
it wasnt a program it was a site, FoxyTunes Planet or something like that


Whoa, do you even know what heavy rock is? You're saying that DISTURBED, THREE DAYS GRACE and BREAKING BENJAMIN are not heavy rock bands... wow, I think you need a music lesson.
lol, if there's someone other than spud on here that knows his music, its craig.

[Misawa]

You need a music lesson you stupid fool. Disturbed - They are alternative metal. Hardly "heavy rock". Second of all Breaking Benjamin are alternative rock. And Three Days Grace are alternative rock/post-grunge. Not "heavy rock" as you stupidly described them.

ACTUALLY, Disturbed PUBLICALLY CLASSED THEMSELVES as heavy rock, and said that they do not fall into the metal genre. Breaking Benjamin are predominantly heavy rock as well as post-grunge and alternative and Three Days Grace are the same.

So thanks for your wrong information, pal. But I know music, and I know those three particular bands better than most. Hell, I personally know Ben Burnley.

[English]

ACTUALLY, Disturbed PUBLICALLY CLASSED THEMSELVES as heavy rock, and said that they do not fall into the metal genre. Breaking Benjamin are predominantly heavy rock as well as post-grunge and alternative and Three Days Grace are the same.

So thanks for your wrong information, pal. But I know music, and I know those three particular bands better than most. Hell, I personally know Ben Burnley.
They aren't heavy rock though:S They are alternative, not heavy and not even "rock" sorta music, it's alternative. BB and TDG are post grunge/alternative. Not one bit heavy, they're crap but they're not heavy.

So take YOUR false information elsewhere, you "know" Ben Burnley but you don't know music genres. Fool -_-

Just looking through your music list on your profile, let me guess next you're going to call Staind "heavy rock" then?

[Ezzie.]

Disturbed are defenitely heavy rock..

and I can live in the past all I like ;) give me on band that can match queen/rolling stones/led zeppelin/genesis/guns n roses/jimi hendrix please.

[chilloutrich]

You need a music lesson you stupid fool. Disturbed - They are alternative metal. Hardly "heavy rock". Second of all Breaking Benjamin are alternative rock. And Three Days Grace are alternative rock/post-grunge. Not "heavy rock" as you stupidly described them.

disturbed are nu-metal mate, im biggest fan lol

[Zuay]

Slayer rock.
heavy metal.

[cocaine]

Just because itunes says that doesn't mean they are metal -_-


yes but when the genre comes from the actual CD that they made..

[English]

yes but when the genre comes from the actual CD that they made..
Nah that means nothing, often is wrong or itunes ***** it up. Lostprophets are definately not metal.

[mangle]

KsE , Slayer , Slipknot? , 36 Crazyfists etc

[Crono]

Abigail Williams, Beneath The Massacre, Cradle Of Filth, Severed Savior, etc.

[RedStratocas]

My favorite metal bands are Coldplay, The Unicorns, Justin Timberlake, The Shins, and Green Day


I agree "indie" which is meant to be independant and unknown is for some reason the label of modern light rock bands who are internationally famous. And as for pop-rock, EUGH.

Independent means independent label. It has nothing to do with how well known you are or what you sound like. Arctic Monkeys had the fastest selling debut album in UK history last year but they're still indie because they're on Domino which is an independently owned label. Indie bands are seen as "unknown" because they have much less marketing and in general have a non radio-friendly style.

Classic Rock is super overrated.

[cocaine]

Nah that means nothing, often is wrong or itunes ***** it up. Lostprophets are definately not metal.

i know theyre not metal :P

they're anything but it.


My favorite metal bands are Coldplay, The Unicorns, Justin Timberlake, The Shins, and Green Day

green day?

as much as i love their music they're not really metal..

[RedStratocas]

i know theyre not metal :P

they're anything but it.



green day?

as much as i love their music they're not really metal..

lol @ you missing the fact i just called Justin Timberlake heavy metal and went to Green Day. yeah, i was making a joke, i was just testing people's reactions.


what i dont get with indie, is if its meant to be indiependant and all that, a lot really does sound the same. dont get me wrong, i may not be the world's greatest lover of indie, but i dont hate it, it just strikes me as odd

The same reason every genre sounds the same. You're just hearing what's on the radio; Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand etc. These are just indie bands that have a much more accessible and radio-friendly style and are much more commonly known, but certainly do not speak for the entire indie genre. Listen to rap on the radio, it sounds all the same. But anyone can tell you that what's on the radio really isnt what the whole genre is like.

[Ezzie.]

Wouldn't agree that classic rock is over-rated, the beatles/led zeppelin/jimi hendrix founded so much music for the bands playing now

[RedStratocas]

Wouldn't agree that classic rock is over-rated, the beatles/led zeppelin/jimi hendrix founded so much music for the bands playing now

True, but seriously... it's old. And thats pretty much the reason that it is influential. They were just at the start of this whole music revolution. There wasen't much to turn to.

And The Beatles alone had almost as many songs as everything from the 90's put together on the Rolling Stone "500 Greatest Songs" list, classic rock wasen't that great.

[Ezzie.]

True, but seriously... it's old. And thats pretty much the reason that it is influential. They were just at the start of this whole music revolution. There wasen't much to turn to.

And The Beatles alone had almost as many songs as everything from the 90's put together on the Rolling Stone "500 Greatest Songs" list, classic rock wasen't that great.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one :P

[-mark74-]

And The Beatles alone had almost as many songs as everything from the 90's put together on the Rolling Stone "500 Greatest Songs" list, classic rock wasen't that great.

Rolling Stone is garbage.

I mean they put cobain #12 on the 100 greatest guitarists. While eddie van halen was down at 70, randy rhoads at 85 and kim thayil at 100.

I think there picking random guitarists and sorting them in random order.:S

As for classic rock over rated, thats your opinion, and i'm fine with that but alot of classic rock bands have more talent than most of today's bands.

[RedStratocas]

Rolling Stone is garbage.

I mean they put cobain #12 on the 100 greatest guitarists. While eddie van halen was down at 70, randy rhoads at 85 and kim thayil at 100.

I think there picking random guitarists and sorting them in random order.:S

As for classic rock over rated, thats your opinion, and i'm fine with that but alot of classic rock bands have more talent than most of today's bands.

Disagree. Today's bands are just as talented as older bands, many of the best and most creative bands are making music as we speak. They're just not on the radio and being played and being recognized.

[-mark74-]

Disagree. Today's bands are just as talented as older bands, many of the best and most creative bands are making music as we speak. They're just not on the radio and being played and being recognized.

Well, the mainstream ones then. :P

[FlyingJesus]

give me on band that can match queen/rolling stones/led zeppelin/genesis/guns n roses/jimi hendrix please.

Bon Jovi.

Discussion over :P

[Ezzie.]

Bon Jovi.

Discussion over :P

Hush :P I was including Bon jovi in that genre ;) Bed of roses- just wow..

[YoManGo!]

You're kidding :P that's just.. eurgh..

I hope music gets revived, Hendrix rises from the grave, led zepp reform, dire straits release some new songs!

Because quite frankly i'm sick of "indie" and "pop/rock" eurgh.. bunch of ponses.

Roll on classic rockkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


dire straits?
it actually doesn't get any more lame than that.

scratch below the surface and you'll find music that's just as good and better as anything released 30 or 40 years ago. most of the "classic rock" bands only really became extremely popular after they split up, anyway. the top 40 is designed for young audiences and therefore tends to suck.

[cocaine]

lol @ you missing the fact i just called Justin Timberlake heavy metal and went to Green Day. yeah, i was making a joke, i was just testing people's reactions.


pls do not lol @ me

:'(

and ye, heavy metal..

[samsaBEAR]

lol @ you missing the fact i just called Justin Timberlake heavy metal and went to Green Day. yeah, i was making a joke, i was just testing people's reactions.



The same reason every genre sounds the same. You're just hearing what's on the radio; Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand etc. These are just indie bands that have a much more accessible and radio-friendly style and are much more commonly known, but certainly do not speak for the entire indie genre. Listen to rap on the radio, it sounds all the same. But anyone can tell you that what's on the radio really isnt what the whole genre is like.
yeh, i read the above about indie labels, and that's how it makes a band indie.
it makes sense now :]
i retract my previous statements

[Ezzie.]

dire straits?
it actually doesn't get any more lame than that.

scratch below the surface and you'll find music that's just as good and better as anything released 30 or 40 years ago. most of the "classic rock" bands only really became extremely popular after they split up, anyway. the top 40 is designed for young audiences and therefore tends to suck.

You clearly fail if you say dire straits is lame, I admit: some of the bands out are quite good, but there's no "wow" bands like queen or led zeppelin out anymore

[English]

You clearly fail if you say dire straits is lame, I admit: some of the bands out are quite good, but there's no "wow" bands like queen or led zeppelin out anymore
It depends what genre you listen to. There are plenty of bands that are huge and "wow" in their genre, just like those repetitive bands you keep mentioning were big in their genre of rock(now classic rock), so get over it. Get over the past!

[Ezzie.]

It depends what genre you listen to. There are plenty of bands that are huge and "wow" in their genre, just like those repetitive bands you keep mentioning were big in their genre of rock(now classic rock), so get over it. Get over the past!

Repetitive bands? lol..:rolleyes:

Can you name me some bands that've changed music recently? And aren't just clones of another band?

[RedStratocas]

You clearly fail if you say dire straits is lame, I admit: some of the bands out are quite good, but there's no "wow" bands like queen or led zeppelin out anymore

Radiohead is coming out with an album later this year, and they've toped numerous "Greatest album" lists from different sources. There are plenty of "wow" bands still around. What makes a band "wow" anyway?

[English]

Repetitive bands? lol..:rolleyes:

Can you name me some bands that've changed music recently? And aren't just clones of another band?

Radiohead just to name a band that has influenced a lot of bands and isn't a "clone".

[Neil]

Repetitive bands? lol..:rolleyes:

Can you name me some bands that've changed music recently? And aren't just clones of another band?


Deftones, they've inspired tons of new bands

Classic rock is classic rock for a reason, it's the past, yea some people enjoy it, I still occassionaly like to hear the odd Queen song but when that stuff came out it may of been great but now it's just classic, to a large amount of bands I've seen about music is more about who is the best at the intrument they play, Jimi Hendrix WAS good but now he's gone, he's not the best, it's just too many people think music JUST has to be based on what the song is about, meaning is a good thing about the song because then it's just not random stupidity but music is changing and meaning isn't a huge part of it anymore, some bands may still include meaning into the songs they write but half of the time they think of something, make it sound good and play it

[Ezzie.]

Radiohead is coming out with an album later this year, and they've toped numerous "Greatest album" lists from different sources. There are plenty of "wow" bands still around. What makes a band "wow" anyway?

They're a good band- but hmm.. I guess it's like a defining feature in the band? Hard to put into words, I suppose a great band- ie great musicians and a great sound:

Led zeppelin for example:
Robert plant- fantastic vocalist
Jimmy Page- one of the greatest guitarists (top 10 of 100 of all time i think.)
John Paul Jones: Very good bassist and also provided other instruments into the songs too
Bonzo: Incredibly drummer- #2 of all time - I'd say #1 but bah :P

There's a fair few of modern bands I like and would listen too but I don't really see any as "wow that's incredible" with the exception of foo fighters/aerosmith/white stripes/the stones (if i'm classing them as still alive- i'm sure they're doing voodoo to keep themselves alive :P)

Also neil you was telling me hendrix was a crap guitarist yesterday and that you could probably do better than him so hmm :rolleyes:

[RedStratocas]

Radiohead just to name a band that has influenced a lot of bands and isn't a "clone".

Indeed, and here are more; Beck, The Postal Service, even Gym Class Heroes. Ive never heard anything quite like any of them. Those are just big names as well, there's an entire scene of these types of musicians.

[English]

They're a good band- but hmm.. I guess it's like a defining feature in the band? Hard to put into words, I suppose a great band- ie great musicians and a great sound:

Led zeppelin for example:
Robert plant- fantastic vocalist
Jimmy Page- one of the greatest guitarists (top 10 of 100 of all time i think.)
John Paul Jones: Very good bassist and also provided other instruments into the songs too
Bonzo: Incredibly drummer- #2 of all time - I'd say #1 but bah :P

There's a fair few of modern bands I like and would listen too but I don't really see any as "wow that's incredible" with the exception of foo fighters/aerosmith/white stripes/the stones (if i'm classing them as still alive- i'm sure they're doing voodoo to keep themselves alive :P)

Also neil you was telling me hendrix was a crap guitarist yesterday and that you could probably do better than him so hmm :rolleyes:

So if we're gonna go onto great musician(s) making up a band to be incredible/influencing then lets do it that way.

Slipknot - Incredible drummer, fast and good technique.
Blink 182 - Also an incredible drummer, one of the best technique's around.
Green Day - All round good, may have "sold out" but early stuff was incredible.

I'll come up with more tomorrow, I'm off now.

[Ezzie.]

Indeed, and here are more; Beck, The Postal Service, even Gym Class Heroes. Ive never heard anything quite like any of them. Those are just big names as well, there's an entire scene of these types of musicians.

Gym class heroes are growing on me and i'm hating myself because of it :(:P


So if we're gonna go onto great musician(s) making up a band to be incredible/influencing then lets do it that way.

Slipknot - Incredible drummer, fast and good technique.
Blink 182 - Also an incredible drummer, one of the best technique's around.
Green Day - All round good, may have "sold out" but early stuff was incredible.

I'll come up with more tomorrow, I'm off now.

I sort of agree with you there.. you're only giving like an "incredible drummer" though.. there's not a good combination kind of thing? I like greenday/bit of slipknot and blink 182, wouldn't rate them incredibly high though- I prefer corey's stone sour stuff compared to slipknots

[Neil]

So if we're gonna go onto great musician(s) making up a band to be incredible/influencing then lets do it that way.

Slipknot - Incredible drummer, fast and good technique.
Blink 182 - Also an incredible drummer, one of the best technique's around.
Green Day - All round good, may have "sold out" but early stuff was incredible.

I'll come up with more tomorrow, I'm off now.

Don't argue using drummers, Ezzie finds Joey's solos boring :rolleyes:

Greendays older stuff was amazing, American Idiot was ok but got boring fast, Jesus of Suberbia was crap too xD but a lot of the older stuff was great

[RedStratocas]

They're a good band- but hmm.. I guess it's like a defining feature in the band? Hard to put into words, I suppose a great band- ie great musicians and a great sound:

Led zeppelin for example:
Robert plant- fantastic vocalist
Jimmy Page- one of the greatest guitarists (top 10 of 100 of all time i think.)
John Paul Jones: Very good bassist and also provided other instruments into the songs too
Bonzo: Incredibly drummer- #2 of all time - I'd say #1 but bah :P

There's a fair few of modern bands I like and would listen too but I don't really see any as "wow that's incredible" with the exception of foo fighters/aerosmith/white stripes/the stones (if i'm classing them as still alive- i'm sure they're doing voodoo to keep themselves alive :P)

Also neil you was telling me hendrix was a crap guitarist yesterday and that you could probably do better than him so hmm :rolleyes:


Well if youre going to go by that crappy Rolling Stone list, Radiohead actually have 2 guitarists on it. Jonny Greenwood being the main one (watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKCwDJ7ZUc) and show me where you've heard something like it). He's even a composer in residence at the BBC and recently won the Listener's Award at the British Composer Awards for his 18-minute piece "Popcorn Superhet Receiver"

[Ezzie.]

Well if youre going to go by that crappy Rolling Stone list, Radiohead actually have 2 guitarists on it. Jonny Greenwood being the main one (watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKCwDJ7ZUc) and show me where you've heard something like it). He's even a composer in residence at the BBC and recently won the Listener's Award at the British Composer Awards for his 18-minute piece "Popcorn Superhet Receiver"

Nah, not singularily by the rolling stones list, looking at quite a few and also on personal opinions too: that solo's good yeah, he reminds me of Jeff Beck for some reason..

that rolling stones top 100 was pretty shocking, wasn't cobain at like number 15 or something? :P

Jeff Beck solo- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE8I5seKJjM

Dunno why greenwood reminds me of beck but bah.

[RedStratocas]

Nah, not singularily by the rolling stones list, looking at quite a few and also on personal opinions too: that solo's good yeah, he reminds me of Jeff Beck for some reason..

that rolling stones top 100 was pretty shocking, wasn't cobain at like number 15 or something? :P

Jeff Beck solo- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE8I5seKJjM

Dunno why greenwood reminds me of beck but bah.


I know, Jesus. I think they're high when they do their lists. Their albums list wasen't bad though.

[Neil]

Also neil you was telling me hendrix was a crap guitarist yesterday and that you could probably do better than him so hmm :rolleyes:


Ok, that was today and I never said I could do better than him? :S

[Ezzie.]

Ok, that was today and I never said I could do better than him? :S

you said something on the lines of "i couldve done that by just picking up a guitar and strumming" >_>

He's a fantastic guitarist man..:P

[FlyingJesus]

that rolling stones top 100 was pretty shocking, wasn't cobain at like number 15 or something? :P

I hope for music's sake that that's a joke.. seriously I'm crap at guitar but I'm better than Cobain. He confessed that he only knew 3 chords or something.

[RedStratocas]

I hope for music's sake that that's a joke.. seriously I'm crap at guitar but I'm better than Cobain. He confessed that he only knew 3 chords or something.

Nah, he actual was a pretty decent guitarist, there's some demos and live tapes of him warming up and he really is pretty good, he just doesn't play like that in their actual songs. He claimed he couldnt write.

[English]

Gym class heroes are growing on me and i'm hating myself because of it :(:P



I sort of agree with you there.. you're only giving like an "incredible drummer" though.. there's not a good combination kind of thing? I like greenday/bit of slipknot and blink 182, wouldn't rate them incredibly high though- I prefer corey's stone sour stuff compared to slipknots
Well I was in a rush and only thought of decent drummers that came to mind. In my opinion Slipknot has some rather talented members on each of the instruments, not just Joey(although he is reknowned) there are also members like Mick Thompson who plays the guitar really well. Slipknot really did change metal and brought this nu-metal scene into metal and many bands were influenced.
Rage Against The Machine - They had some great musicians especially on guitar from Tom Morello. Influenced a lot of bands and also did something that most bands haven't and didn't do at the time. They changed a lot of music and influenced plenty of bands. Another band that are fairly recent and have impacted music.
RHCP - I can't ******* stand this band. However many people do like their music, quite a different style of music it is aswell with those funky beats(But man are they are a pile of *****). Despite me not liking the band, they have a good balance of musicians allover. Their bassist(Flea) is world reknowned for his style of bass mainly as he is great at slapping. Their drummer is also very good and has quite a different style as he includes a lot of funk into this 'funk-rock' band. And the vocalist Anthony Keidis, he has a very distinct voice but also is very dynamic in the way he can change the tone and beat of his voice for their very different songs/albums.

I have just named 3 bands and given a fairly good description, all of which have impacted music and THEIR genre of music they play. Although I didn't describe them, Blink 182, Green Day and Radiohead are other clear and fine examples of bands that have not only influenced many bands but changed the whole genre they play in and set the standards high. In response to Ezzie and how "classic rock bands gave so much more" well sure they did, but most musicians have moved on. Most bands today won't be influenced by musicians from these classic rock bands. That's because this classic rock isn't around much and people are having much more defined music genres in the way that they play. You can call those classic rock bands great and sure they influenced many people, but don't deny that those bands I have listed have influenced many people aswell as also bringing a new standard to their music genre.

[Ezzie.]

Rage against and the chillies rock? They've influenced so much, more so on rage against's part.

but are you now comparing blink 182 to say jimi hendrix or led zepp?
:s

[:Hazel]

i don't like any metal tbh.

[English]

but are you now comparing blink 182 to say jimi hendrix or led zepp?
:s
No, I was saying that Blink 182 have done as much to their genre than that of what Hendrix & Led Zepp did to their genre.

[Ezzie.]

No, I was saying that Blink 182 have done as much to their genre than that of what Hendrix & Led Zepp did to their genre.

Kind of.. :S blink 182 did alot for their genre I guess, but hendrix/led zepp did so much for their genre - so much more than blink 182 man.. Hendrix has inspired so many guitarists it's unbelievable.

Hendrix also changed peoples views on rock, bought blues into the lime light and was the greatest guitarist (in mine and many others opinions)

So how can you say blink 182 did so much compared to hendrix? :S

[FlyingJesus]

Kind of.. :S blink 182 did alot for their genre I guess, but hendrix/led zepp did so much for their genre - so much more than blink 182 man.. Hendrix has inspired so many guitarists it's unbelievable.

Hendrix also changed peoples views on rock, bought blues into the lime light and was the greatest guitarist (in mine and many others opinions)

So how can you say blink 182 did so much compared to hendrix? :S


To be fair, nearly every pop-punk band since Blink have been a Blink ripoff.

By the way, does this have anything to do with metal?

[samsaBEAR]

Kind of.. :S blink 182 did alot for their genre I guess, but hendrix/led zepp did so much for their genre - so much more than blink 182 man.. Hendrix has inspired so many guitarists it's unbelievable.

Hendrix also changed peoples views on rock, bought blues into the lime light and was the greatest guitarist (in mine and many others opinions)

So how can you say blink 182 did so much compared to hendrix? :S

yeh, and blink have inspired countless numbers of bands.

[Ezzie.]

To be fair, nearly every pop-punk band since Blink have been a Blink ripoff.

By the way, does this have anything to do with metal?

And how many hendrix rip offs/covers have there been? :P


And hmm.. nothing much really :O

My favourite metal bands would probably be..

Disturbed
A FEW of slipknots songs
Korn
Mettalica
Dragonforce (yes crucify me meh.)

Probably a few more but forgot. :eusa_whis



yeh, and blink have inspired countless numbers of bands.


Change the word to ripped off blink 182 and yeah that's true, been so many bands inspired by hendrixes style of play/out of the box kinda music, same with the beatles.

This is going off topic though ;D

[Neversoft]

Classic Rock is super overrated.

Was that a joke too? :rolleyes_

[Ezzie.]

Was that a joke too? :rolleyes_

Nearly cried when he said that :( rofl

[Neversoft]

Nearly cried when he said that :( rofl

Lol. :P Not many people on this forum actually listen to Classic Rock. I don't understand how it can be 'overrated'. Also, when did this 'overrated' nonsense come about anyway!? I've never heard of the saying 'overrated' anywhere but this forum. It drives me insane. -.-

[Ezzie.]

Lol. :P Not many people on this forum actually listen to Classic Rock. I don't understand how it can be 'overrated'. Also, when did this 'overrated' nonsense come about anyway!? I've never heard of the saying 'overrated' anywhere but this forum. It drives me insane. -.-

Don't get why not many people like classic rock :( guess they're into hip hop..yo..

>_>

And meh, I was told that Hendrix was overrated once, felt like hitting him :P

[FlyingJesus]

PROUD AND SO GLORIOUS
STANDING THE FOUR OF US
OUR SWORDS WILL SHINE BRIGHT IN THE SKY
WHEN UNITED WE COME
TO THE LAND OF THE SUN
WITH THE HEART OF A DRAGON WE RIDE

[-mark74-]

Lol. :P Not many people on this forum actually listen to Classic Rock. I don't understand how it can be 'overrated'. Also, when did this 'overrated' nonsense come about anyway!? I've never heard of the saying 'overrated' anywhere but this forum. It drives me insane. -.-

"Overrated" is just an opinion basically. Its overused.

Edit - Opps, off topic again..

[RedStratocas]

Was that a joke too? :rolleyes_

It is. It really is. Everyone's always talking about how "oh, music isnt the way it used to be; old music was so much better" but I've rarely heard someone say "classic rock sucks". For some reason you can smack talk all of today's music but god forbid someone says Led Zeppelin wasen't that great. I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. Yes, we get it, when everyone was high, drunk, getting in fights with other band members and making the lamest music video ever, it was much more fun. But get with the times. Music changes, it doesnt make it worse.

[YoManGo!]

It is. It really is. Everyone's always talking about how "oh, music isnt the way it used to be; old music was so much better" but I've rarely heard someone say "classic rock sucks". For some reason you can smack talk all of today's music but god forbid someone says Led Zeppelin wasen't that great. I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. Yes, we get it, when everyone was high, drunk, getting in fights with other band members and making the lamest music video ever, it was much more fun. But get with the times. Music changes, it doesnt make it worse.

don't forget those scandelous sex stories involving underage girls.

[Ezzie.]

Oh the blasphemers!

You shall be burned at the stake when the sun rises tomorrow >:(

[FlyingJesus]

don't forget those scandelous sex stories involving underage girls.

Mmmmm....

Whoa sorry drifted off there for a second.

[Ezzie.]

Mmmmm....

Whoa sorry drifted off there for a second.

Dude whats with the chick behind you man?

doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

[summer]

i don't rly listen to metal. the hardest stuff i listen to is alexisonfire.

[FlyingJesus]

No man, the chicks go in front. That chick behind you, she ain't no chick.

[beth]

i dont listen to metal really, i'm not quite sure on the definition of metal.
but lets see according to my winamp.
36 crazyfists, alexisonfire, the bled <3, ffaf & underoath.
well if any of those are actually metal. i like them all :D

oh & i aslo think classic rock is overrated. i can't stand any of it.

[Neversoft]

It is. It really is. Everyone's always talking about how "oh, music isnt the way it used to be; old music was so much better" but I've rarely heard someone say "classic rock sucks". For some reason you can smack talk all of today's music but god forbid someone says Led Zeppelin wasen't that great. I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. Yes, we get it, when everyone was high, drunk, getting in fights with other band members and making the lamest music video ever, it was much more fun. But get with the times. Music changes, it doesnt make it worse.

Lol, sorry are you telling me to get with the times? I'll do and like whatever music I want. =/ Just because it's old, doesn't mean you can't like it anymore. Jeez, my nan is old but I still like her. Also, all I said in my post was 'Was that a joke too?' Who said anything muisc changes or making it worse? :rolleyes: Oh and by the way, some of the music videos back then were amazing and alot better than they are now.

[Ezzie.]

No man, the chicks go in front. That chick behind you, she ain't no chick.

o.O serious? Thought I felt a jab in my behind :(

And neversoft I wholeheartedly agree

[summer]

iTunes tells me that the 'metal' music in my library is- Feeder, System of a Down, Tool and Underoath.

I know Feeder definitely aren't, but I don't properly know what metal actually is so uhh..

[samsaBEAR]

It is. It really is. Everyone's always talking about how "oh, music isnt the way it used to be; old music was so much better" but I've rarely heard someone say "classic rock sucks". For some reason you can smack talk all of today's music but god forbid someone says Led Zeppelin wasen't that great. I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. Yes, we get it, when everyone was high, drunk, getting in fights with other band members and making the lamest music video ever, it was much more fun. But get with the times. Music changes, it doesnt make it worse.
i agree
sure, you have to have some appriciation for classic rock, without those bands, music wouldn't have been such the big thing it is today. however, i belive nowadays, music is a lot more dynamic, it has a lot more going for it.

[English]

Don't get why not many people like classic rock :( guess they're into hip hop..yo..

>_>

And meh, I was told that Hendrix was overrated once, felt like hitting him :P

What's wrong with Hip Hop? And you are being incredibly biased. Just because you like Led Zepp/Hendrix it means they must have done more for their genre, get over yourself!

Lol, sorry are you telling me to get with the times? I'll do and like whatever music I want. =/ Just because it's old, doesn't mean you can't like it anymore. Jeez, my nan is old but I still like her. Also, all I said in my post was 'Was that a joke too?' Who said anything muisc changes or making it worse? :rolleyes: Oh and by the way, some of the music videos back then were amazing and alot better than they are now.
Probably about 90-95% of music videos are better now purely based on technology changes and how much a band/artist spends on music videos.

[Ezzie.]

What's wrong with Hip Hop? And you are being incredibly biased. Just because you like Led Zepp/Hendrix it means they must have done more for their genre, get over yourself!


Because Zepp/Hendrix/Beatles have done more for their genre than any other band? :rolleyes:

[beth]

It is. It really is. Everyone's always talking about how "oh, music isnt the way it used to be; old music was so much better" but I've rarely heard someone say "classic rock sucks". For some reason you can smack talk all of today's music but god forbid someone says Led Zeppelin wasen't that great. I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. Yes, we get it, when everyone was high, drunk, getting in fights with other band members and making the lamest music video ever, it was much more fun. But get with the times. Music changes, it doesnt make it worse.
tbh, i think sam summed it up.

[English]

Because Zepp/Hendrix/Beatles have done more for their genre than any other band? :rolleyes:
What have Zepp done to their genre that Blink 182 haven't to theirs? Hell, atleast the genres I'm talking about are still alive.

[Ezzie.]

What have Zepp done to their genre that Blink 182 haven't to theirs? Hell, atleast the genres I'm talking about are still alive.

Well considering led zepp disbanded because of bonzo's death- if bonzo was still here they'd still be rocking now most likely.


Also:

"Led Zeppelin IV is the fourth best-selling album in history, having sold more than 22 million copies, and four other albums by the band – Physical Graffiti, Led Zeppelin II, Houses of the Holy and Led Zeppelin - also rank among the all-time top 100"

http://www.rockhall.com/inductee/led-zeppelin

They've had such an impact on music, album sales, inspired many people, (not too sure if the whole of the band has) but jimmy page is in the music hall of fame.

So meh..

By the way i'm not disrespecting blink-182- they're a great band, I just don't think you can compare the two to be honest.

[English]

Yeah but Classic Rock/that type of rock isn't alive. It's just rated highly upon people who are living in the past/barely listen to new music "because it doesn't compare".
And also, what is wrong with Hip Hop? I'm pretty sure you made a sarcastic comment about it.

[Ezzie.]

Yeah but Classic Rock/that type of rock isn't alive. It's just rated highly upon people who are living in the past/barely listen to new music "because it doesn't compare".
And also, what is wrong with Hip Hop? I'm pretty sure you made a sarcastic comment about it.

Classic rock is still alive sort of: White stripes/Rolling stones (they'll die in about 100 years)/aerosmith etc (sorry very tired so can't give good examples)

Music just seems to be bland.. everyone's copying each other kind of, still a few good bands out there, just seems like music needs a kick in the right direction: more original bands etc: sort of why I like enter shikari: Rave/Rock/Metal kind of thing: Not too keen on the songs but I like their originality.

Also hip-hop is ok... I prefer old school rap/hip hop like run-dmc and all, 50 cent/eminem/eurgh.. *jumps off cliff* :P

[RedStratocas]

Lol, sorry are you telling me to get with the times? I'll do and like whatever music I want. =/ Just because it's old, doesn't mean you can't like it anymore. Jeez, my nan is old but I still like her. Also, all I said in my post was 'Was that a joke too?' Who said anything muisc changes or making it worse? :rolleyes: Oh and by the way, some of the music videos back then were amazing and alot better than they are now.

I was talking to people who say "music then was better than it is now"-- and if you are one of those people, yes, you do need to get with the times. Im not telling you what to listen to, that was my point in the first place actually.

[Tash.]

Yeah but Classic Rock/that type of rock isn't alive. It's just rated highly upon people who are living in the past/barely listen to new music "because it doesn't compare".
And also, what is wrong with Hip Hop? I'm pretty sure you made a sarcastic comment about it.

I'm sorry but I just don't agree with that at all.. I enjoy what is classified as "classic rock" and will rate it highly for it's impact upon music. But if you were to take a look at my music taste you'd notice that I love the new music scenes going on right now, and I would easily say that some of the music being created is to the standard of some of the older music people have listed. So for you to say that basically people who enjoy and rate "classic rock" highly are outdated is a bit wrong.

[Ezzie.]

I was talking to people who say "music then was better than it is now"-- and if you are one of those people, yes, you do need to get with the times. Im not telling you what to listen to, that was my point in the first place actually.

Thus classic music listeners should only listen to music within the past 10 years right?:rolleyes:

Logic fails.

Just because it's older and possibly better :O than modern music doesn't mean you can just disregard it as it's "old"

[English]

Classic rock is still alive sort of: White stripes/Rolling stones (they'll die in about 100 years)/aerosmith etc (sorry very tired so can't give good examples)

Music just seems to be bland.. everyone's copying each other kind of, still a few good bands out there, just seems like music needs a kick in the right direction: more original bands etc: sort of why I like enter shikari: Rave/Rock/Metal kind of thing: Not too keen on the songs but I like their originality.

Also hip-hop is ok... I prefer old school rap/hip hop like run-dmc and all, 50 cent/eminem/eurgh.. *jumps off cliff* :P

I fail to see how White Stripes are part of this 'Classic Rock' scene? That thought just makes me laugh infact. I also fail to see how Rolling Stones are "alive" in their scene. I'm not sure whether they are still composing music but if they are then it shows how "reknowned" they are for their newer music. Hell you can rate Rolling Stones highly for their style of music, but it's all the past songs (Sympathy for the devil was a tune) and if they are still creating music then they really do fail to grab much attention from it. I must agree Enter Shikari are original and it's very experimental, but just because a lot of bands/artists fit in the same genre doesn't make them any less original. Queen, Led Zepp, Status Quo and bands like that all fall under the genre of 'classic rock' but that doesn't mean each band isn't original.

I'm sorry but I just don't agree with that at all.. I enjoy what is classified as "classic rock" and will rate it highly for it's impact upon music. But if you were to take a look at my music taste you'd notice that I love the new music scenes going on right now, and I would easily say that some of the music being created is to the standard of some of the older music people have listed. So for you to say that basically people who enjoy and rate "classic rock" highly are outdated is a bit wrong.
I was actually targeting what I said to people, unlike yourself, say how new music is rubbish and how "it'll never compare to classic rock music"

[Ezzie.]

I fail to see how White Stripes are part of this 'Classic Rock' scene? That thought just makes me laugh infact. I also fail to see how Rolling Stones are "alive" in their scene. I'm not sure whether they are still composing music but if they are then it shows how "reknowned" they are for their newer music. Hell you can rate Rolling Stones highly for their style of music, but it's all the past songs (Sympathy for the devil was a tune) and if they are still creating music then they really do fail to grab much attention from it. I must agree Enter Shikari are original and it's very experimental, but just because a lot of bands/artists fit in the same genre doesn't make them any less original. Queen, Led Zepp, Status Quo and bands like that all fall under the genre of 'classic rock' but that doesn't mean each band isn't original.


I was talking about the white stripes as in carrying on the sort of "classic rock" genre but with a fresh style..

The stones are still touring you know? Just because they don't release a new single every week doesn't mean they've retired :rolleyes:

Also where did I ever say Queen Status Quo Led zepp weren't all different from another? Your argument is really flawed :S

[samsaBEAR]

how can you have a modern style classic rock.
i thought classic rock was a term to describe rock bands of old, not an actual genre

[-mark74-]

i thought classic rock was a term to describe rock bands of old, not an actual genre

Yeah, You cant say led zep or pink floyd or whoever didn't influenece any classic rock bands because it's just a label for 60's\70's rock bands.

[RedStratocas]

Thus classic music listeners should only listen to music within the past 10 years right?:rolleyes:

Logic fails.

Just because it's older and possibly better :O than modern music doesn't mean you can just disregard it as it's "old"


Grrrr, dude. Are you listening to what Im saying? Trust me, Im really trying to be nice and fair with all this stuff. My point is that no one should be ttell what they should be listening to. Listen to caveman music from 2000 BC for all I care, but please, never say that music as a whole has gotten better or worse.

The music industry, yes, you can argue has changed. The 90's and the internet changed a lot of things, and ever since file sharing has exploded, the music industry has returned to a pre-Beatles mindset where bands are judged almost solely by singles. Which does lead to repetitiveness on the radio, because they go with what works.

But if you dig a little deeper, you'll see that right now we have some of the most diverse and creative music ever. The only thing that has changed, or "gotten worse", is the top layer.

[YoManGo!]

classic rock is gay.

[chilloutrich]

classic rock is gay.

anyone could say that about punk?

[YoManGo!]

feel free to do so, if that's your opinion. why are you so scared to just come out and say it?

[samsaBEAR]

feel free to do so, if that's your opinion. why are you so scared to just come out and say it?
coz then you'll launch a essay length reply concerning how punk is not gay, and how the person should stick his opinion up his bottom. but ya know, in more detail and bigger words.
no one likes getting bored out of their mind :p

[YoManGo!]

classic rock is still gay.

[chilloutrich]

coz then you'll launch a essay length reply concerning how punk is not gay, and how the person should stick his opinion up his bottom. but ya know, in more detail and bigger words.
no one likes getting bored out of their mind :p

LEGEND, answered it for me. in otherwords....ur really cool and are the music bible. compliments all round :) LOVE U LOADS YOMANGO! xxxxx

[YoManGo!]

im taken, sorry.
plus the above statement shows that chilloutrich is gay.

[chilloutrich]

im taken, sorry.
plus the above statement shows that chilloutrich is gay.

haha dude i wana be just like u.

[YoManGo!]

classic rock is still gay

[samsaBEAR]

haha dude i wana be just like u.
you need to grow the eyebrows first

[YoManGo!]

sam <3s my eyebrows

[chilloutrich]

you need to grow the eyebrows first

lol wah ya mean???

classic rock is ace jus to annoy yomango:):)

[YoManGo!]

are you suggesting it is in some way paradoxial to think someone can be gay and ace? are you some kind of dirty homophobe? go rot.

[samsaBEAR]

if you wanna be like old willy o'er there, then you need the eyebrows
think charlie from fightstar/busted
just cooler, and not as sold out

[YoManGo!]

busted > fightstar.
classic rock is gay

[chilloutrich]

are you suggesting it is in some way paradoxial to think someone can be gay and ace? are you some kind of dirty homophobe? go rot.

i give up with you. not worth the bother:)

[samsaBEAR]

busted owned coz you can understand what they're singing about
idk about yous, but i cannot understand what he sings in fightstar, its all mumbling

[Ezzie.]

Grrrr, dude. Are you listening to what Im saying? Trust me, Im really trying to be nice and fair with all this stuff. My point is that no one should be ttell what they should be listening to. Listen to caveman music from 2000 BC for all I care, but please, never say that music as a whole has gotten better or worse.

The music industry, yes, you can argue has changed. The 90's and the internet changed a lot of things, and ever since file sharing has exploded, the music industry has returned to a pre-Beatles mindset where bands are judged almost solely by singles. Which does lead to repetitiveness on the radio, because they go with what works.

But if you dig a little deeper, you'll see that right now we have some of the most diverse and creative music ever. The only thing that has changed, or "gotten worse", is the top layer.

Yeah I agree with you man, must've got mixed up in previous posts- my apologies, I agree- the music industry has got worse (imo) just many clones on mtv/radio= heck even kerrang has started showing pop rock/pop every other song :rolleyes:

There are some incredibly diverse bands out there- foo fighters/enter shikari *shudders*/stone sour (slipknot+softy touchy music=win)/evanescence/I suppose Green Day... though i'm getting sick of them :P/ Also Finnish rock sounds awesome in a few bands.

Could go on but too tired:eusa_wall

[YoManGo!]

i give up with you. not worth the bother:)

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Edited by Nick- (Forum Super Moderator): Please be considerate of other users views.

[YoManGo!]

Yeah I agree with you man, must've got mixed up in previous posts- my apologies, I agree- the music industry has got worse (imo) just many clones on mtv/radio= heck even kerrang has started showing pop rock/pop every other song :rolleyes:

There are some incredibly diverse bands out there- foo fighters/enter shikari *shudders*/stone sour (slipknot+softy touchy music=win)/evanescence/I suppose Green Day... though i'm getting sick of them :P/ Also Finnish rock sounds awesome in a few bands.

Could go on but too tired:eusa_wall


kerrang has nearly always made its money out of pop/rock. for example they regard marilyn manson to be a "god" and rhcp to be "the most important band on the planet." both are radio-friendly poppy rocky alternativey stuff. plus, i havent read kerrang in 4 years. i only ever bought 2 copies then they had the "rasmus" on the cover so i didnt bother getting it. another example of a poprock band.

Edited by Nick- (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not double post.

[samsaBEAR]

rasmus are a one-hit wonder

[Ezzie.]

kerrang has nearly always made its money out of pop/rock. for example they regard marilyn manson to be a "god" and rhcp to be "the most important band on the planet." both are radio-friendly poppy rocky alternativey stuff. plus, i havent read kerrang in 4 years. i only ever bought 2 copies then they had the "rasmus" on the cover so i didnt bother getting it. another example of a poprock band.

Rasmus=finnish rock?

and marilyn manson is good- his new song is just eurgh..
chilli peppers are a very good band but not the greatest :S

Where are you getting this from? 3 years back there used to be marilyn manson/rage against/janes addiction/the stones/acdc and all constantly- proper rock (well marilyn manson is but isn't but alas.)

[RedStratocas]

Rasmus=finnish rock?

and marilyn manson is good- his new song is just eurgh..
chilli peppers are a very good band but not the greatest :S

Where are you getting this from? 3 years back there used to be marilyn manson/rage against/janes addiction/the stones/acdc and all constantly- proper rock (well marilyn manson is but isn't but alas.)


Actually Rage Against The Machine broke up in 2000. Recently got back together.

[samsaBEAR]

i thought that was just for one concert? or are they thinking of producing a new album?

[Ezzie.]

Actually Rage Against The Machine broke up in 2000. Recently got back together.

Same as what samsa said /\

I thought it was just for the concert, if they're proper coming back together then awesome!

[Antallica]

Actually Rage Against The Machine broke up in 2000. Recently got back together.

Yer, thats what i was thinking.

[English]

I was talking about the white stripes as in carrying on the sort of "classic rock" genre but with a fresh style..

The stones are still touring you know? Just because they don't release a new single every week doesn't mean they've retired :rolleyes:

Also where did I ever say Queen Status Quo Led zepp weren't all different from another? Your argument is really flawed :S

I actually did say I wasn't sure whether they were around or not, once again you fail to properly read our arguments properly(RedStratocas also pointed out you have a problem to read properly) and you have just once again done it. White Stripes aren't classic rock, hell they aren't even "carrying on the classic rock genre with a fresh style" cos not only would it not be classic rock because of the date, but if it had a fresh style it wouldn't be classic rock. Thus making this argument "flawed" as you liked to say about mine. I did say I was unsure if the Rolling Stones were still around making music. I didn't say they weren't at any stage or say they were "retired" like you seem to have made up me saying. However, it does show the RS are definately losing it if they aren't receiving enough publicity from their tour because I for one didn't know they were on tour and I know about most artists who tour cos I regularly vist aloud.com so I know who's touring. About originality, you said:
Music just seems to be bland.. everyone's copying each other kind of, still a few good bands out there, just seems like music needs a kick in the right direction: more original bands etc
Well surely you are calling most "classic rock" bands bland. Because a lot of them copied eachother in the sense of style & genre. Big guitar solos, that whiney singing and the rock lifestyle. So you are saying everyones copying eachother - meaning that they are bland - as you stated. I will enjoy your "argument" back which probably has mis-read about half of it so I then need to re-state it.

how can you have a modern style classic rock.
i thought classic rock was a term to describe rock bands of old, not an actual genre
Exactly, he just talks so much crap.

[Seren]

i thought that was just for one concert? or are they thinking of producing a new album?
I think I read somewhere in the K! mag that they were thinking of making another album, i can't really remember though.

[RedStratocas]

i thought that was just for one concert? or are they thinking of producing a new album?


Same as what samsa said /\

I thought it was just for the concert, if they're proper coming back together then awesome!


They're going on a short tour with the Wu Tang Clan. They aren't quite to new album mode quite yet, but I wouldnt be surprised if they did, and I wouldnt be surprised if they didn't

[Ezzie.]

I actually did say I wasn't sure whether they were around or not, once again you fail to properly read our arguments properly(RedStratocas also pointed out you have a problem to read properly) and you have just once again done it. White Stripes aren't classic rock, hell they aren't even "carrying on the classic rock genre with a fresh style" cos not only would it not be classic rock because of the date, but if it had a fresh style it wouldn't be classic rock.

You're not thinking out of the box.. look up stupidity in the dictionary :)

If you'd had actually read what I said I was saying that the white stripes were in the style of classic rock but with a fresher sound to it, seriously..



Thus making this argument "flawed" as you liked to say about mine. I did say I was unsure if the Rolling Stones were still around making music. I didn't say they weren't at any stage or say they were "retired" like you seem to have made up me saying. However, it does show the RS are definately losing it if they aren't receiving enough publicity from their tour because I for one didn't know they were on tour and I know about most artists who tour cos I regularly vist aloud.com so I know who's touring.Rolling stones aren't currently on tour I don't believe, were a few months back- have to have breaks you see? ;) About originality, you



Well surely you are calling most "classic rock" bands bland. Because a lot of them copied eachother in the sense of style & genre. Big guitar solos, that whiney singing and the rock lifestyle. So you are saying everyones copying eachother - meaning that they are bland - as you stated. I will enjoy your "argument" back which probably has mis-read about half of it so I then need to re-state it.

"big guitar solos"-most had their own style actually, maybe a few were copying each other, but they weren't the "highly acclaimed sorts"

Whiney Singing? Sorry not every singer is like Axl rose- Freddy Mercury? Robert Plant (whiney to some)?

Also, if you're so worried about me getting the wrong end of the stick perhaps you should learn to write properly instead of giving jumbled up meanings :)


Exactly, he just talks so much crap.As do you my friend, you also result to petty insults- which is a common trait of someone who's trying to cover up their lack of knowledge ;)


They're going on a short tour with the Wu Tang Clan. They aren't quite to new album mode quite yet, but I wouldnt be surprised if they did, and I wouldnt be surprised if they didn't

Well you could never say they have a lack of material in this day and age :p

[YoManGo!]

Rasmus=finnish rock?



finnish rock = rock made by finnish people? yes, i do believe that the rasmus would fit that demographic. shock horror!

unless you mean the finnish pagan metal scene of bands like sonata arctica and korpiklaani - bands who have taken the traditional finnish folk sound and shoved in some heavy metal for good measure. i love korpiklaani.

[News-Reporter]

greenday and mcr

[Ezzie.]

unless you mean the finnish pagan metal scene of bands like sonata arctica and korpiklaani - bands who have taken the traditional finnish folk sound and shoved in some heavy metal for good measure. i love korpiklaani.

Basically what I meant /\

Have you seen/heard viking rock? (think it's called that)

Pretty hilarious :P

[YoManGo!]

yes. as i just said "i love korpiklaani".

[Ezzie.]

yes. as i just said "i love korpiklaani".

I'm clueless on those sort of bands so :P

[Neversoft]

Probably about 90-95% of music videos are better now purely based on technology changes and how much a band/artist spends on music videos.

Your opinion. Just because a video costs alot, doesn't make it good. I think that older videos are much better.


I was talking to people who say "music then was better than it is now"-- and if you are one of those people, yes, you do need to get with the times. Im not telling you what to listen to, that was my point in the first place actually.

So you're basically saying if you like somthing old, you're insane. I really despise you, I hope you know that. ¬.¬

[benjamin]

disturbed, killswitch engage, soil, 36 crazyfists, bullet for my valentine, children of bodom, lamb of god, evanescence, nickelback, rage against the machine, shadows fall, trivium.


tata for now.:rolleyes:
evanescence? nickelback?

LOLLL ok.

i only like 36 crazyfists really.

[YoManGo!]

new music > old music
how can you relate yourself or actively be apart of a band that split up 20 years ago?

[English]

Your opinion. Just because a video costs alot, doesn't make it good. I think that older videos are much better.

Sure it's an opinion, but it's the technology change that is meaning most of the new videos actually are better than the older ones. That's like saying even though it's my opinion old crappy computers that were made like 20 years ago are better than new model computers.

new music > old music
how can you relate yourself or actively be apart of a band that split up 20 years ago?
Agreed, although 90s rap is where it's at!

[YoManGo!]

Agreed, although 90s rap is where it's at!

The 90s were definately good times for rap. Gangsta rap has never, ever been the same since Pac and Biggie died, and I doubt it ever will be. Ohhh it's all so good! But there's still so many amazing things happening in hip-hop at the moment.

[English]

The 90s were definately good times for rap. Gangsta rap has never, ever been the same since Pac and Biggie died, and I doubt it ever will be. Ohhh it's all so good! But there's still so many amazing things happening in hip-hop at the moment.
Yeah I don't think Gangsta rap will be in the game since the death of them 2, however I'm still hoping for something and despite most people hating him(I actually really like him), 50 Cent & The Game's current "beef" is a start. There's not half as much violence, though there is violence, but some of the lyrics coming from these 2 is absolutely sick. The hip hop scene at the moment is great, what you liking about it?

[summer]

Yeah I don't think Gangsta rap will be in the game since the death of them 2, however I'm still hoping for something and despite most people hating him(I actually really like him), 50 Cent & The Game's current "beef" is a start. There's not half as much violence, though there is violence, but some of the lyrics coming from these 2 is absolutely sick. The hip hop scene at the moment is great, what you liking about it?

I don't really like the beef lyrics between them 2. It used to be alright (The Game's "Ghost Unit" album is EXCELLENT!) but The Game's new album would of been so much better if he hadn't felt the need to namedrop all the time. As for 50, he's got a new album out soon. High hopes for that one :]

[RedStratocas]

So you're basically saying if you like somthing old, you're insane. I really despise you, I hope you know that. ¬.¬

I dont think you're quite understand what I'm saying, or you're just not seeing what I wrote. I never, ever, ever, ever, ever said if you like old music, you're insane. If you could point out where I said that, I would apologize. But looky:


Im not telling you what to listen to


My point is that no one should be ttell what they should be listening to. Listen to caveman music from 2000 BC for all I care

(the second one was badly worded, but you can make out what I meant.

All I said was:


never say that music as a whole has gotten better or worse.

Because it hasn't. Music changes. Listen to you want, if all you listen to is old music, good for you, have a cookie. But you don't need to go around people listening to new music of today telling them about the good old days. Because no one wants to hear it. The past is gone, get over it, there's some new stuff around, and much of it is just as creative as anything anyone else has ever produced.

[Neversoft]

Sure it's an opinion, but it's the technology change that is meaning most of the new videos actually are better than the older ones. That's like saying even though it's my opinion old crappy computers that were made like 20 years ago are better than new model computers.

Agreed, although 90s rap is where it's at!

Sorry but technology can't make much difference at all. It's what people like that counts. Just because the new videos have new technology, it doesn't make them any better than the rest.


Listen to you want, if all you listen to is old music, good for you, have a cookie. But you don't need to go around people listening to new music of today telling them about the good old days. Because no one wants to hear it. The past is gone, get over it, there's some new stuff around, and much of it is just as creative as anything anyone else has ever produced.

When the hell was I 'going around telling people about the good old days'?
Oh and by the way, I never said that you said if you like old music, you're insane either. I said you're 'basically saying'. IMPLYING.

[RedStratocas]

When the hell was I 'going around telling people about the good old days'?
Oh and by the way, I never said that you said if you like old music, you're insane either. I said you're 'basically saying'. IMPLYING.

I never said YOU were. see?


I was talking to people who say "music then was better than it is now"

So if you're not one of those people, it doesn't apply to you.

And when was I implying anything of that sort?

[YoManGo!]

classic rock is gay.

[Neversoft]

I never said YOU were. see?


But you don't need to go around people listening to new music of today telling them about the good old days.

You never said I was, eh?

[RedStratocas]

You never said I was, eh?

I still wasn't talking specifically about you. It's like if I say "you shouldn't eat dog poop", I dont mean YOU specifically, I mean everyone.

[Neversoft]

Ahh whatever. You win, classic rock sucks. I cba argueing anymore. It'll never end.

In reply to below:
I understand, but It seems like you have been implying that classic rock isnt as good as rock these days because it's old, by saying get with the times, etc.

[RedStratocas]

Ahh whatever. You win, classic rock sucks. I cba argueing anymore. It'll never end.

Gaaaahhhh, seriously, are you not listening to what I said? I said classic rock is no better than music today, and I've been saying music today is pretty damn awesome, so that's not an insult in any way.

[Antallica]

classic rock is gay.

Name me bands which are classic rock then?

[mangle]

I like classic rock!
I also like modern rock , prefer modern to classic but I still like some o' the old stuff :]

[Antallica]

Led zeppelin rule
Jimi hendrix rules.

But i like loads of rock.
METAL
Thrash metal
heavy metal.
LOADS. ;]

[VistaBoy]

Well i like rammstein i think there metal.

[FlyingJesus]

I'd just like to note (a few days late, sorry I've been away) that White Stripes are not in any way classic rock or a modern update of it. They are rock, simple as that. In fact, White Stripes' music is a pretty clear indication of how modern rock can be just as good if not better than classic rock.

It also seems that classic rock fanboys seem to have an irrational fear or hatred of hiphop/rap except for "old stuff like Run DMC", because as everyone knows, it's cool to like Run DMC but not anyone recent, and of course gangster rap is off-limits because it's OMGZ TALENTLESS N U USE A COMPUTER!!!!

[Ezzie.]

I'd just like to note (a few days late, sorry I've been away) that White Stripes are not in any way classic rock or a modern update of it. They are rock, simple as that. In fact, White Stripes' music is a pretty clear indication of how modern rock can be just as good if not better than classic rock.

It also seems that classic rock fanboys seem to have an irrational fear or hatred of hiphop/rap except for "old stuff like Run DMC", because as everyone knows, it's cool to like Run DMC but not anyone recent, and of course gangster rap is off-limits because it's OMGZ TALENTLESS N U USE A COMPUTER!!!!

What I was trying to say about the white stripes is (or is it just me) do they have the same "sound" (not copying) of classic rock bands like led zepp? Mainly the vocals..

Run dmc rock.. gangster rap just ****** me off :P

[English]

I'd just like to note (a few days late, sorry I've been away) that White Stripes are not in any way classic rock or a modern update of it. They are rock, simple as that. In fact, White Stripes' music is a pretty clear indication of how modern rock can be just as good if not better than classic rock.

It also seems that classic rock fanboys seem to have an irrational fear or hatred of hiphop/rap except for "old stuff like Run DMC", because as everyone knows, it's cool to like Run DMC but not anyone recent, and of course gangster rap is off-limits because it's OMGZ TALENTLESS N U USE A COMPUTER!!!!
Exactly, my thoughts in 1! ******* well said.

What I was trying to say about the white stripes is (or is it just me) do they have the same "sound" (not copying) of classic rock bands like led zepp? Mainly the vocals..

Run dmc rock.. gangster rap just ****** me off :P

I personally don't see how White Stripes sound like any classic rock bands and I don't think Jack from the White Stripes sounds like any of the classic rock bands, his voice is rather distinct and unlike those of classic rock bands. How come gangster rap ****** you off then? Please do use artist(s) examples!

[FlyingJesus]

(Most) gangster rap flows a lot better than "old school" hiphop, and I find it to be much more powerful too - and for me that's great, because I like power music.

Classic rock - intricate musical style, solos etc., singer with wide range of notes
White Stripes - back to basics simplistic band, singer who is very much different to anyone else

[Ezzie.]

I think Jack's voice must be what makes me link classic rock together- sounds very robert plant style- also he has a good range of vocals too..
hmm. guess it's just me then ^_^

[RedStratocas]

The White Stripes did have an old blues-ish style on White Blood Cells, but since then they've added twists and heavier aspects making them much more distinct.

[Ezzie.]

The White Stripes did have an old blues-ish style on White Blood Cells, but since then they've added twists and heavier aspects making them much more distinct.

Cheers man, pretty much nailed it- I like their new stuff though- great sound to it- especially the latest one

[YoManGo!]

gangsta rap > run-dmc
run-dmc are a bitttt boring.

[English]

gangsta rap > run-dmc
run-dmc are a bitttt boring.
Run DMC have a similar sound throughout most songs and get a bit repetitive imo.

[Foobar]

I hate Metal :(

[YoManGo!]

Run DMC have a similar sound throughout most songs and get a bit repetitive imo.

im with you.
some of their stuff is quality, though. just only in short bursts.

[manga21]

i dont like any metal bands.

You are a such a loner, you have so much time to kill.. Notice how he says post your favourite metal band is not weather you like it or not you feel well hard with a big post count or something?

[samsaBEAR]

she cans till say whether she likes them or not
also btw, you're not saying you're favourite metal band either,

notice how he says post your favourite metal band
bit hypocritical dont ya think
do you feel well hard with a big post count or something?
i have already replied in this topic btw, so cross that comeback out

[manga21]

she cans till say whether she likes them or not
also btw, you're not saying you're favourite metal band either,

bit hypocritical dont ya think
do you feel well hard with a big post count or something?
i have already replied in this topic btw, so cross that comeback out

Ahh its you I dont like you :) When you totally made a big arguement on a thread I posted

Yeah well I felt like been a grumpy **** thats all :)

Btw My favoruite metal bands are cathedral there you go ? Also Probot so there you fool :D

[Ezzie.]

You're an arrogant git.

[clarissa !!]

You are a such a loner, you have so much time to kill.. Notice how he says post your favourite metal band is not weather you like it or not you feel well hard with a big post count or something?
wth? i say i dont like any metal bands therefore im a loner?

[YoManGo!]

the kids who like metal tend to be loners.

[Jõnathan]

the kids who like metal tend to be loners.
The kid at my school who likes death metal and has tourette's is alright.
Although my school has emo wannabes.

[samsaBEAR]

the kids who like metal tend to be loners.
or they mingle with the other metal likers like in my school

[manga21]

the kids who like metal tend to be loners.

Realllyyy? Hmmm ohhh yeahh! So true...

[RedStratocas]

Do Queens Of The Stone Age count as metal?

[manga21]

Do Queens Of The Stone Age count as metal?

They do have a sort of metaly sound, I dont know I couldnt really say I would say more hard rock

[samsaBEAR]

Do Queens Of The Stone Age count as metal?
i wouldnt think so, just rock/hard rock like manga said

[YoManGo!]

The kid at my school who likes death metal and has tourette's is alright.
Although my school has emo wannabes.

i dont mind the people who listen to the full on heavy stuff about burning churches, ******* dead people and ************. its the annoying trivium kinda stuff i dont like. they mention the word "fire" in like 15 songs, apparently.

[English]

i dont mind the people who listen to the full on heavy stuff about burning churches, ******* dead people and ************. its the annoying trivium kinda stuff i dont like. they mention the word "fire" in like 15 songs, apparently.
the old trivium wasn't even THAT bad, but they totally sold out and are complete metallica wannabes. I personally don't give Trivium the time of day anymore(I only used to listen to Ember to inferno and Ascendancy) and I've lost most of my taste for most metal music, apart from hardcore.

[RedStratocas]

i lol @ grindcore.

[FlyingJesus]

Norther pls

[YoManGo!]

www.myspace.com/corpsewalking
best grindcore everzz. no joke.
its my friends band :)

[Antallica]

Atm.

Dragonforce.

[-mark74-]

bump.. :rolleyes:

[omgitslily]

hmm metal bands that i like..
bfmv, sikth, otep, arch enemy, agony scene, bmth.

i don't listen to it that much tbf. ooo talking about it has made me want to listen to it though. i think i shall. aha

[Energizer]

i dont like any metal bands.
what she said.