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edible
31-05-2007, 01:44 PM
right, my mate & i were 'debating' about music, and she started saying that the scissor sisters are indie..

so i was just curious, who do you define as indie?!

Mr.Sam
31-05-2007, 01:46 PM
indie means independent - Not mainstream.

Therefore you could class any unsigned band as indie..

Virgin Mary
31-05-2007, 01:56 PM
In popular music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_music), indie music (from independent) is any of a number of genres, scenes, subcultures and stylistic and cultural attributes, characterised by perceived independence from commercial pop music and mainstream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream) culture and an autonomous, do-it-yourself (DIY) approach.

Genres associated with indie

Alternative rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_rock), particularly indie rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_rock), indie pop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_pop), post-rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock), shoegazing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoegazing), twee pop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twee_pop), and many others
Americana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americana_%28music%29)
Dark cabaret (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_cabaret)
Down-tempo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down-tempo)
Experimental (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_music)
Folk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_music)
Garage Rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garage_Rock)
Glitch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_%28music%29)
Hip Hop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_Hop)
Industrial Music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Music)
IDM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Dance_Music)
Post-punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-punk)
Power-pop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-pop)
Punk rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock)
Metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_%28Music%29)
Shibuya-kei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibuya-kei)
Suomisaundi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomisaundi)
Trip-hop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trip-hop)
Underground Hip-hop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_hip_hop)
Yé-yé (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C3%A9-y%C3%A9)lol I think some people find it subjective, but Scissor Sisters aren't indie they're just like a disco pop band.

dannyisnotamazing
31-05-2007, 01:57 PM
I don't agree that SS are indie.

There annoying, i'll say that but they ain't indie. (:

:Hazel
31-05-2007, 01:59 PM
hard fi.

summer
31-05-2007, 02:01 PM
indie isn't meant to be a genre. indie is assigned to a band which is assigned to an independent record label, for example bloc party. bands often mistaken for being indie include coldplay and the fratellis.

indie nowadays though is normally a band (usually in the NME) who have a basic line-up of vocals, bass, guitar and drums and play simple 3-4 minute songs with short guitar solos. not too heavy to be classed as real rock music, but too 'heavy' to be classed as general pop music.

quagmire
31-05-2007, 02:06 PM
arctic monkeys are an indie band, aren't they?

maroon
31-05-2007, 02:06 PM
this new 'indie' genre is actually *Removed*

Edited by micky.blue.eyes (Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the filter.

summer
31-05-2007, 02:08 PM
arctic monkeys are an indie band, aren't they?
they're not on an independant record label, but they're classed as indie as in the new way of describing indie..

:Hazel
31-05-2007, 02:09 PM
this new 'indie' genre is actually s.hit

nah i like it, its good :]]]

maroon
31-05-2007, 02:10 PM
nah i like it, its good :]]]
it's so hyped up that it actually makes me cringe

benjamin
31-05-2007, 02:11 PM
yeah like jord said, there are two kinda types of indie, the propper one is the propper music definition for it, it all came around the brit-pop era (I did a presentation in Music last week on this, rofl) and then there is a nother say, definition arising for the 'indie' culture upcoming, so to speak.

but to vicky, the thread starter, i'd say bands like bloc party & klaxons are indie, how you're on about it.

that probably didn't make any sense but i know what i ment (:

edible
31-05-2007, 02:15 PM
i knew i was right!!

thanks everyone for like, clearing up the independent bit, although it kinda confused me, so it's just individual record labels right?!

and yeah ben, you made sense except for "how you're on about it.", that didnt.

and also, indie is hardly hyped up. i quite like it.

benjamin
31-05-2007, 02:17 PM
i knew i was right!!

thanks everyone for like, clearing up the independent bit, although it kinda confused me, so it's just individual record labels right?!

and yeah ben, you made sense except for "how you're on about it.", that didnt.

and also, indie is hardly hyped up. i quite like it.
'How you're on about it' bit was refferring to SS being indie, and what bands you'd class as indie, but maybe arn't actually.. :P

edible
31-05-2007, 02:18 PM
I didnt class them as indie, i'd class them more as dance if im honestt.

maroon
31-05-2007, 02:19 PM
and also, indie is hardly hyped up. i quite like it.
yes it is, there's no escaping from it now. also, just because you like it doesn't mean that it's not hyped up.

arouse
31-05-2007, 02:22 PM
bloc party
*VOMITTTTTTTTTTTTT*

summer
31-05-2007, 02:23 PM
it is veryvery hyped up. i love it anyway.

benjamin
31-05-2007, 02:25 PM
I didnt class them as indie, i'd class them more as dance if im honestt.
When I said that I just reffered back to your post, not saying you said they was indie, I think it was your mate or something? *Cba to check*

edible
31-05-2007, 02:32 PM
I know you didnt Ben, and yeah it was my mate.
i was just saying that i didnt say it.

It's hardly hyped up in my area, well not the whole of Liverpool, Just Waterloo/Crosby.

benjamin
31-05-2007, 02:34 PM
I know you didnt Ben, and yeah it was my mate.
i was just saying that i didnt say it.

It's hardly hyped up in my area, well not the whole of Liverpool, Just Waterloo/Crosby.
Same, in Oxford it's practicaully unheard of, lol.

edible
31-05-2007, 02:38 PM
pretty much the same.
i got called sad for listening to it. and i was like:
"yeah, thats right im sad :D"

distraction
31-05-2007, 03:10 PM
scissor sisters are pop/glam rock

summer
31-05-2007, 03:25 PM
in my school, all that any boy ever listens to is indie.

cocaine
31-05-2007, 03:28 PM
lmao, i was watching some indie music channel and it had orson on it

arouse
31-05-2007, 03:50 PM
lmao, i was watching some indie music channel and it had orson on it

and ?

RedStratocas
31-05-2007, 07:28 PM
they're not on an independant record label, but they're classed as indie as in the new way of describing indie..

Actually, they are on an independent label.


this new 'indie' genre is actually

It isn't new at all actually.

I'll clear up a few things since Im very into the whole indie scene: Indie can be seen as 2 things. One is "independent label", which technically isnt a genre, rather just an idea. Even the most mainstream-sounding artists can be indie if they are on an indie label. However, there are many bands that are considered indie, even though they are on a major label, and that usually means that they used to be on an indie label (bands such as Death Cab For Cutie, The Decemberists, Modest Mouse, etc.) Sometimes it just means they sound like they should be indie (Coldplay) . Because while it isnt a real genre, it does have an odd pattern and style, usually consisting of things that are seen as different or out of the norm.

summer
31-05-2007, 07:36 PM
Actually, they are on an independent label.

I know they're on Domino, and I always thought that was an independant label, but then I looked on their official myspace and it says they're a major label.

Lµke
31-05-2007, 07:39 PM
pretty much the same.
i got called sad for listening to it. and i was like:
"yeah, thats right im sad :D"

And let me guess, the rest of your friends love pleasure rooms? :P

RedStratocas
31-05-2007, 07:44 PM
I know they're on Domino, and I always thought that was an independant label, but then I looked on their official myspace and it says they're a major label.

Probably just a mistake. Or they could possibly redistribute outside the UK on a major label as some bands do, but I just looked and couldnt find that they do.

Jõnathan
31-05-2007, 08:14 PM
in my school, all that any boy ever listens to is indie.
You're well lucky
My school is full of CHARVARS who try to MC and they can't

cocaine
31-05-2007, 08:17 PM
and ?


orson arent indie are they? :S

summer
01-06-2007, 10:57 AM
You're well lucky
My school is full of CHARVARS who try to MC and they can't
my school was like that up until about the beginning of this year, when they all moved on from that.

Jõnathan
01-06-2007, 11:06 AM
my school was like that up until about the beginning of this year, when they all moved on from that.
Mine will NEVER have a majority population of indie-lovers.
It'll just be "MC SMALLY" and all of that nonsense.

summer
01-06-2007, 12:40 PM
Mine will NEVER have a majority population of indie-lovers.
It'll just be "MC SMALLY" and all of that nonsense.
i never thought mine would, but it started with loads of people listening to the fratellis, and then it just escalated from them.

OMGitsaROSS
01-06-2007, 12:45 PM
indie is a now a genre so stop this ******** about indepedant. It has amde itself a genre.


Fratellis are. Arctic Monkeys are. Kaiser Chiefs could be. Hard-Fi are.

vicious
01-06-2007, 12:56 PM
indie's the best one out there imo.

edible
01-06-2007, 01:05 PM
And let me guess, the rest of your friends love pleasure rooms? :P
yeahh, exactly.

and death cab & modest mouse:8

Misawa
01-06-2007, 01:29 PM
I hate indie.

RedStratocas
01-06-2007, 07:44 PM
indie is a now a genre so stop this ******** about indepedant. It has amde itself a genre.


Fratellis are. Arctic Monkeys are. Kaiser Chiefs could be. Hard-Fi are.

"Indie Rock" has formed itself a genre, but indie-everything else hasn't. There are electronic and pop bands that are indie, even though they don't have an indie sound.

distraction
01-06-2007, 08:36 PM
i think indie is more of an attitude to music than a sound.

yeah most of it is a 4/5 member set up with guitar/bass/drums/vocals and MAYBE a keyboard but there but there are some acts like dan le sac vs. the scroobius pip who don't necessarily SOUND indie but they have that kind of diy ethic.

RedStratocas
01-06-2007, 08:50 PM
i think indie is more of an attitude to music than a sound.

yeah most of it is a 4/5 member set up with guitar/bass/drums/vocals and MAYBE a keyboard but there but there are some acts like dan le sac vs. the scroobius pip who don't necessarily SOUND indie but they have that kind of diy ethic.

Pretty much. It's more an idea than anything.

beth
02-06-2007, 11:39 AM
oh the 'indie' scene is huge in birmz.
indie to me is like lightspeed champion, bright eyes.

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