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Breakfloor
03-06-2007, 12:42 PM
I might change to muslim. i already dont eat pork or lamb OR eggs.
so yeh, i like the religion and its pretty smart. im 13 and i hardly EVER drink.. i dont smoke and i dont do drugs. so yeh, what do you think of the religion. I know its very strict but im already prepared for that being raised in a strict area

Fonejacker
03-06-2007, 12:59 PM
welll learn more about the religeon before u "Convert"

Wootzeh
03-06-2007, 12:59 PM
If you believe in what they teach then go ahead.

chips
03-06-2007, 12:59 PM
be a muslim if you want to **REMOVED** and not doing things what are fun just because a everyday bloke said its bad. at 13 it would be a silly pointless thing to do try before you bye is what i say


live your life the way you want not how others think you should

Edited by Bomb-Head (Super Moderator): Please don't post remarks that could potentially be seen as racist, thanks :)

DiscoPat
03-06-2007, 01:00 PM
Speaking as a Muslim myself, not all of us are as strict as you think, we still follow the religion but with a few exceptions nd stuff, we are allowed to eat lamb and eggs but not anything that comes from pigs. I always make jokes or if you want "racist" jokes as some of you would call them, about my religion n stuff just because its funny not to offend it, and i dont find nothing wrong with it, thats one of the exceptions i think.. if you feel that its the religion that reprusents you the most then go for it lol :).

edit: @ chips, if you think we are like dogs then ur just ******ed..

Putal
03-06-2007, 01:02 PM
I thought you had to be from their country.

Breakfloor
03-06-2007, 01:05 PM
Thanks. with the lamb and eggs and pork. i dont eat them anyway. i was just saying that i can stop eating any food if i wanted to but yeh. i like the religion and know quite abit about it.. so yeh, DiscoPat. it says i need to spread before giving you rep so when i can i will.

N!ck
03-06-2007, 01:09 PM
Just don't be any religion? It's a lot easier.

You
03-06-2007, 01:21 PM
My dad is a muslim, well kinda, he drinks, smokes & gambles, so he is sort of a hypocrite, although he wont eat anything from pigs...

If you're up for it and you think you've got your mind set on it then why not, nobody's stopping you ;)

DiscoPat
03-06-2007, 01:23 PM
People tend to just stereotype us allot but still, its not that much of a big deal lol, and about the thing about praying 5 times a day, technically u have to pray 5 times a day but you can also do it when your like old and got nothing to do like u left school u don't work no more so you ain't got excuses, etc...

Luckyrare
03-06-2007, 01:56 PM
Well changing just because you dont eat lamb or eggs is daft. If you agree with the morals then go a head. I would learm about it first

Breakfloor
03-06-2007, 02:04 PM
im not changing for any reason god damn it. im just changing because i feel like commiting to something thats worth it.

Jamie!
03-06-2007, 02:40 PM
you like spoke to your mam or someone about it first?

Bomb-Head
03-06-2007, 03:11 PM
If you beleive in the Muslim teaching then I would say there's nothing stopping you. You would probably benefit from talking to some family members and getting their points aswell :)

@chips:

Muslim's do not 'worshop something like a dog worships its owner', they simply worship a God like most other religions..

Nixt
03-06-2007, 03:14 PM
I might change to muslim. i already dont eat pork or lamb OR eggs.
so yeh, i like the religion and its pretty smart. im 13 and i hardly EVER drink.. i dont smoke and i dont do drugs. so yeh, what do you think of the religion. I know its very strict but im already prepared for that being raised in a strict area

Sorry but I think that is a totally stupid reason to convert. Just because you don't smoke, take drugs and eat pork etc does not mean that you are almost already following their religion; there are many other parts of their religion that are very important too.
If you are aware of these, and can accept these then go ahead and convert but if you don't then I think you should research the religion properly before deciding to convert.

mat64
03-06-2007, 03:22 PM
If you believe in what they teach then go ahead.

Agreed :).

DiscoPat
03-06-2007, 03:32 PM
He didnt say he is thinking to convert because he doesnt eat pork n stuff, he said he allready is following some of the 'rules' such as not eating pork etc..

Breakfloor
03-06-2007, 03:36 PM
he gets it "/ im just saying i follow some of the rules already. my friends muslim and his dad taught me about some of it. and im just thinking of becoming a muslim. im not changing because of any reason just because i want to.

Nixt
03-06-2007, 03:40 PM
he gets it "/ im just saying i follow some of the rules already. my friends muslim and his dad taught me about some of it. and im just thinking of becoming a muslim. im not changing because of any reason just because i want to.

Well then go for it, if you already follow much of their morals etc then there is no reason why you shouldn't :).

Virgin Mary
03-06-2007, 03:42 PM
I thought you had to be from their country.
They're the second largest religion in the world, they're spread over multiple countries.

If you wanna be a Muslim then do it, but it'd be easier if you became a Christian, it's virtually the same but not as strict.

Herman
03-06-2007, 03:42 PM
being a muslim myself, i would say you should learn a little bit more about the religion before converting. it's more than just avoiding food that comes from pigs and avoiding alcoholic drinks and stuff like that.

from where i come from, every rule in the religion is taken and followed seriously. but as discopat said, there are certain people who choose to follow the religion with a few exceptions. it's your choice really, but i strongly recommend you read up and learn a little bit more.

Breakfloor
03-06-2007, 03:45 PM
Yeh but christianity is a load of **** tbh. one minute IS the son of god then he ISNT so its ****

Virgin Mary
03-06-2007, 03:52 PM
Yeh but christianity is a load of **** tbh. one minute IS the son of god then he ISNT so its ****
Muhammed just replaced Jesus in their religion, he restores and renews the old testament according to God's will. They still believe that Jesus is the Messiah though, and that he'll come down to kill all the sinners at the end of time.

Breakfloor
03-06-2007, 03:54 PM
yeh i know

DiscoPat
03-06-2007, 04:20 PM
As the new religions came and stuff, it was just God creating the new 'versions' to make it easier for people to understand but then some people stuck to the old versions of the book some to the new.. somthing along those lines lol..

shokz
03-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Just don't be any religion? It's a lot easier.#If you dont have a religion why live? Whats the point in life?

DiscoPat
03-06-2007, 04:24 PM
^^ killer question lol

Virgin Mary
03-06-2007, 04:48 PM
#If you dont have a religion why live? Whats the point in life?
Life implies the same as basic religion when you think about it: Be a good person, get married, have kids, die.

Herman
03-06-2007, 05:10 PM
As the new religions came and stuff, it was just God creating the new 'versions' to make it easier for people to understand but then some people stuck to the old versions of the book some to the new.. somthing along those lines lol..
something like that, lol. in islam, the torah (i think that's how you spell it; it's the jewishs' holy book) was once a holy book of islam, but was corrupted over time by humans. the same thing happened with the bible, which is why we have judaism and christianity, which are almost the same as islam, but with a few exceptions and changes. Allah then sent the last holy book, the Quran. till today, the words in the Quran have never been changed or corrupted.

DiscoPat
03-06-2007, 05:28 PM
yeap, the strange thing is even if god did send another we wouldnt know or believe the person lol

Jazza
03-06-2007, 05:44 PM
You didn't know it is called Islam so I think you need to learn a bit more about it before you think of converting.

chips
03-06-2007, 09:13 PM
be a muslim if you want to **REMOVED** and not doing things what are fun just because a everyday bloke said its bad. at 13 it would be a silly pointless thing to do try before you bye is what i say


live your life the way you want not how others think you should

Edited by Bomb-Head (Super Moderator): Please don't post remarks that could potentially be seen as racist, thanks :)


how is worship like a dog to its owner racist tell me that

Fonejacker
03-06-2007, 09:17 PM
how is worship like a dog to its owner racist tell me that
your compairing a religieon to a dog and it's owner... And as he said It can be viewed as being racist

Concentric2
03-06-2007, 09:20 PM
your compairing a religieon to a dog and it's owner... And as he said It can be viewed as being racist
To be honest it sounds like a pretty good analogy :rolleyes:


If you dont have a religion why live? Whats the point in life?
Why do you need a religion to have moral values and aspirations in life?

shokz
03-06-2007, 09:36 PM
Why do you need a religion to have moral values and aspirations in life?
Life is a journey to god/heaven

Bef
03-06-2007, 09:40 PM
How about reading the Koran (sp?) and then seeing if its something u want to commit to?

Concentric2
03-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Life is a journey to god/heaven
Don't say that as if it's a fact - it's an opinion.

Jazza
03-06-2007, 10:01 PM
How about reading the Koran (sp?) and then seeing if its something u want to commit to?

The Qu'ran is in Arabic and I doubt he can read that

YoManGo!
03-06-2007, 10:21 PM
Are you already circumcised?

Jazza
03-06-2007, 10:30 PM
Are you already circumcised?

Does that really matter?

RedStratocas
03-06-2007, 10:37 PM
Muslim isn't a religion, Islam is a religion.

Digital
03-06-2007, 10:42 PM
Yeh but christianity is a load of **** tbh. one minute IS the son of god then he ISNT so its ****

So the mods edit the racist Muslim comment about the dog but when you call another religion where are the mods now?


You cant just wake up one morning and want to be a Muslim.....

RedStratocas
03-06-2007, 10:46 PM
You cant just wake up one morning and want to be a Muslim.....

Apparently you can.

Digital
03-06-2007, 10:47 PM
Apparently you can.

Great sign me up :)

RedStratocas
03-06-2007, 10:49 PM
Great sign me up :)

Go for it, girlfriend!

Mentor
03-06-2007, 10:58 PM
Read the book, i you agree with it, why not join up. Although, if u do agree with it, id also suggest haveing your head examined, its slighly better than the bible in getting past the first 3 words without contracdiction, but seriosly, ive yet to see a religion with a holytext that makes a lick of sence.
In fairness though, religion and rationalty by definition dont really go together, you cant have faith about facts.

N!ck
03-06-2007, 11:11 PM
Read the book, i you agree with it, why not join up. Although, if u do agree with it, id also suggest haveing your head examined, its slighly better than the bible in getting past the first 3 words without contracdiction, but seriosly, ive yet to see a religion with a holytext that makes a lick of sence.
In fairness though, religion and rationalty by definition dont really go together, you cant have faith about facts.

Because it's a load of untrue staries written by different people and thrown together in a book. Religion is opinion imo (contradiction or what lol). Ok, so there maybe evidence that these people actually lived, but there is nothing to actually prove the "spectacular" and "imposible" things that somebody with an imagination claims happened. Flame me if you wish. I know a lot of people get a lot of pleasure out of religion, but it's all B.S. imo. You could even call football a religion. Who's to stop you? Hard core fans act in similar ways to people who swear by their religions.

hobo
03-06-2007, 11:22 PM
#If you dont have a religion why live? Whats the point in life?

nobody can answer that, and tbh if life was just a journey to heaven that would be pretty crappy.
then what would be the point of life in heaven? what would be the goal there?
you don't need to have some major aspiration in life for it to have a point, in my opinion the point of life is to live and enjoy it. not to spend it devoted to some ****** idea some ****** thought up centuries ago.



Read the book, i you agree with it, why not join up. Although, if u do agree with it, id also suggest haveing your head examined, its slighly better than the bible in getting past the first 3 words without contracdiction, but seriosly, ive yet to see a religion with a holytext that makes a lick of sence.
In fairness though, religion and rationalty by definition dont really go together, you cant have faith about facts.

Yeah i agree, religion is a pile of toss.
if you believe it, then fair enough, but i don't understand how anyone can.

Caution
03-06-2007, 11:30 PM
I think it's stupid to change cos of that, but it's your choice.

I might change to muslim. i already dont eat pork or lamb OR eggs.
so yeh, i like the religion and its pretty smart. im 13 and i hardly EVER drink.. i dont smoke and i dont do drugs. so yeh, what do you think of the religion. I know its very strict but im already prepared for that being raised in a strict area

You were 14 a few days ago, and your profile says your 15..

hobo
03-06-2007, 11:33 PM
oh & btw, at 13 hardly anyone smokes or drinks, but i bet by the time you're like 15, your standing on those fronts will be rather different. ;)

Kieeran
03-06-2007, 11:37 PM
What do i think about Muslims?
They should eat sausages. They're missing out.

Virgin Mary
03-06-2007, 11:39 PM
Religion isn't meant to make sense, it's meant to sound ridiculous and have absurdly strict rules to test your faith I think.

summer
04-06-2007, 06:16 AM
Personally, I think joining a religion isn't all that clever.

:Hazel
04-06-2007, 09:11 AM
oh & btw, at 13 hardly anyone smokes or drinks, but i bet by the time you're like 15, your standing on those fronts will be rather different. ;)

thats true, i was never going to drink...


yeh & this decision is something you shouldnt take lightly. you must research it thoroughly before converting.

Herman
04-06-2007, 09:27 AM
yeap, the strange thing is even if god did send another we wouldnt know or believe the person lol
it was written in the Quran that Muhammad is the last prophet. so there isn't another one.


The Qu'ran is in Arabic and I doubt he can read that
it's not hard to find a Quran with english translations. i have one of those, actually. it's quite hard to understand though, as it uses 'old english', with all those 'thy' 'thou 'thee' things.


What do i think about Muslims?
They should eat sausages. They're missing out.
we can eat sausages, but not those that come from pigs.

Digital
04-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Because it's a load of untrue staries written by different people and thrown together in a book. Religion is opinion imo (contradiction or what lol). Ok, so there maybe evidence that these people actually lived, but there is nothing to actually prove the "spectacular" and "imposible" things that somebody with an imagination claims happened. Flame me if you wish. I know a lot of people get a lot of pleasure out of religion, but it's all B.S. imo. You could even call football a religion. Who's to stop you? Hard core fans act in similar ways to people who swear by their religions.

So true man, I totally agree I'm not a part of any religion at all I believe the scientific creation of the Earth and man kind, It seems more true then a man sharing some bread and fish around....

shokz
04-06-2007, 03:05 PM
nobody can answer that, and tbh if life was just a journey to heaven that would be pretty crappy.
then what would be the point of life in heaven? what would be the goal there?
you don't need to have some major aspiration in life for it to have a point, in my opinion the point of life is to live and enjoy it. not to spend it devoted to some ****** idea some ****** thought up centuries ago.





the goal in heaven is to spend life with god :rolleyes:
if i guessed right at them censored words how dare you and so what if its made up centuries ago its a religion go look it up...

Bef
04-06-2007, 09:42 PM
The Qu'ran is in Arabic and I doubt he can read that
Im sure it wouldnt be too hard to get hold of a english translation.


Read the book, i you agree with it, why not join up. Although, if u do agree with it, id also suggest haveing your head examined, its slighly better than the bible in getting past the first 3 words without contracdiction, but seriosly, ive yet to see a religion with a holytext that makes a lick of sence.
In fairness though, religion and rationalty by definition dont really go together, you cant have faith about facts.

Agreed

Virgin Mary
05-06-2007, 12:14 AM
So true man, I totally agree I'm not a part of any religion at all I believe the scientific creation of the Earth and man kind, It seems more true then a man sharing some bread and fish around....
Intelligent design is, technically, a scientific reason. Creationism is just as valid as the "big bang". What religions say might not and probably won't be though.

Mentor
05-06-2007, 01:04 AM
Intelligent design is, technically, a scientific reason. Creationism is just as valid as the "big bang". What religions say might not and probably won't be though.

No, ID claimed to be a scientific reason, its not because the science is all wrong. The claim was they found irriducable complexity.. when the scientific community actuly reviewed the evedence, this turned out not to be the case, its was in fact very reducable hence fitting with evolution.
The experiment was actually done on the tail of some cell (i forget its name) although for simplicity's sake its useualy quoted as being an eye.

So unlike religions normal method, read conclusion in old book, ignore any conflicting evidence.
They used a different method, read conclusion in old book, try to find an experiment that backed it up, when unable to find evidence, make up some and pretend thats what the experiment shows.

ID/creationism are NOT science by definition.

Cypher-
05-06-2007, 10:05 AM
To be honest, Its up to you what decisions you take in life but at 13 years old I say get out there and experience everything you can. Your life is unique and far too special to not at least try everything once before you die so you can live without regrets and die without them too.

Tom H
05-06-2007, 10:51 AM
Yeh but christianity is a load of **** tbh. one minute IS the son of god then he ISNT so its ****

You could really ask yourself what is a Christian? The reason I say that is because its such a loose term in our society. We have to be a little more vague in our meaning of Christianity. I think, however, that there are two different things which are quite essential to anybody calling himself a Christian.

#1 you must believe in God and immortality.
#2 you must have some kind of belief about Christ.

RoyalAirForce.. In your case I think you're an atheist if you're saying that.


#If you dont have a religion why live? Whats the point in life?

Because you can easily be an atheist.

Personally I'm an atheist.

On the topic... I think Islam is a good religion, I just don't like the extremists of the religion.

le harry
05-06-2007, 11:19 AM
I don't follow religion much, I generally assume I'm a Christian since I go to a Christian school but I don't follow it or anything. I think that the whole God thing is made-up but that's just me :). People say you have to believe & have faith in him, I'm a seeing is believing person.

shokz
05-06-2007, 07:36 PM
I don't follow religion much, I generally assume I'm a Christian since I go to a Christian school but I don't follow it or anything. I think that the whole God thing is made-up but that's just me :). People say you have to believe & have faith in him, I'm a seeing is believing person.
lmao well just give up now god isnt going to pop in and say hello to you

go church and you iwll see him

:Liam
05-06-2007, 08:02 PM
I hate religion with a passion. I prefer living life to the full, no restrictions, its alot funner that way. I mean even anthropologically speaking religion still makes no sense to me, why seek guidenance in someone who you've never seen? What does a christian acheive by going to church every Sunday, speaking to someone who doesnt exist, worshiping someone who doesnt exist and even pretending to hear someone who exists. Christians also use terms to make it more believeable, like holy water, ceptar and holy bible. they might aswell call it magic water a wand and an old book. Dont get me started on other religions :P

Mentor
05-06-2007, 11:39 PM
lmao well just give up now god isnt going to pop in and say hello to you

go church and you iwll see him
Wait, see him? he makes public appearances now?

So what exactly does the infinite being of the day actually look like? seeing as you sound as if youve seen him.

Shawnstra
07-06-2007, 05:41 AM
It all depends. See some of the rules of your religion, and see if you are willing to commit to them.

Aces
07-06-2007, 12:35 PM
Well, firstly.. Dont think Islam is just full of stuff you cannot do..
Firstly, you need to go read the goddam Koran and learn about the religion properly.
btw, it's easy to avoid smoking & drinking when you have sisha!
( Hubble-Bubble, a sort of fruit smoking )
Though you need to be 16yr's old
Christians kind of dont commit to theyre religion, some do others dont at all.

Speci
07-06-2007, 12:45 PM
You won't like it. My brother in law is Turkish muslim he has to pray like 3 times a day, wash his feet and everything. Can't eat pork and have to fast.

If you wanna do it, good luck.

DiscoPat
07-06-2007, 03:01 PM
Try it out for like 2 weeks, and see if you can do it, if you can then fully convert. :)

shokz
07-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Wait, see him? he makes public appearances now?

So what exactly does the infinite being of the day actually look like? seeing as you sound as if youve seen him.
very funny :rolleyes:

Mentor
08-06-2007, 03:37 PM
very funny :rolleyes:
Thanks, although i wasnt really intending it that way. Answer the question? or were you just bull ******** in your last posts?

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