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Seatherny
07-06-2007, 09:04 AM
The "Reported Reputations and Infractions" havent been looked at? And there are like 6 Super Moderators.

Also I got 2 pointless bad reps - and because Wayne. is friends with them, he didnt remove it. Unfair? That person bad repped someone else and it was pointless, her's wasnt removed either.

Also NintendoNews infractioned me 3-4 days ago for something I posted 6 months ago. A bit pointless dont you agree?
I was infractioned for calling Tash. stupid ... but she doesnt mind as she knows I am joking. He knew that but still infractioned me.


LMAO gutted tbh. Hahah you may quote me on this - yes he does call me it all the time, no it does not offend me in any way.

If she was offended by me calling her stupid, wouldnt she have reported me?

And if a reputation was not reversed, I think we should get a reason for it, instead of the post just being deleted.

Blinger1
07-06-2007, 09:05 AM
habbox is a bit stupid, you cant even upload an archive of images with scripted rooms on it.. its a folder!

Tash.
07-06-2007, 09:10 AM
The "Reported Reputations and Infractions" havent been looked at? And there are like 10 Super Moderators.

Also I got 2 pointless bad reps - and because Wayne. is friends with them, he didnt remove it. Unfair? That person bad repped someone else and it was pointless, her's wasnt removed either.

That would be me.. it was so obviously pointless & the post was just deleted/ignored?

Hecktix
07-06-2007, 09:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my pointless reputation to be removed, and for a warning to be reversed. It's pathetic.

Sorry, why employ so many Smods if they won't actually do the work they are set?

:Hazel
07-06-2007, 09:11 AM
*gives 800 infractions to get mod logs up

*remembers*

oh yeah im not a mod anymore ;) tee hee.

Nixt
07-06-2007, 09:15 AM
Well you shouldn't of been given an Infraction for posting something six months ago that should of been reversed... I also suppose that the reported Infractions and reputation should be dealt with a bit quicker but you have to remember that everyone has exams at the moment and that makes them busier than normal and therefore Habbox is not a priority.

Seatherny
07-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Well you shouldn't of been given an Infraction for posting something six months ago that should of been reversed... I also suppose that the reported Infractions and reputation should be dealt with a bit quicker but you have to remember that everyone has exams at the moment and that makes them busier than normal and therefore Habbox is not a priority.

Whenever smods are online, they just look at other threads. Not all smods have exams either. They have time to look at posts which are 6 months old, but not posts which are new? ;)

Nixt
07-06-2007, 09:21 AM
Whenever smods are online, they just look at other threads. Not all smods have exams either. They have time to look at posts which are 6 months old, but not posts which are new? ;)

hoahaohaoo yes indeed. I think the Super Moderators who don't have exams should be working extra hard to make up for those who do but I don't know the full story with how busy some of them are so I can't really comment. I do agree that it seems a bit stupid they can Infract a six month old post but not spend time looking at new reported Infractions.
I know Wayne has exams though and he hasn't been online much so that's probably why he hasn't dealt with reputation as much as normal.

Seatherny
07-06-2007, 09:24 AM
I know Wayne has exams though and he hasn't been online much so that's probably why he hasn't dealt with reputation as much as normal.

But he ignores reps which are blatantly pointless. That person bad reps me and Tash. and Wayne. just ignored it.

Someone bad repped me for "not using proper grammar".
Looking through the guys posts, HE SP33KZ LYKE DIS.




Lol @ Tash


Oh hi dere goonz! U R STUPID. Pls don't report me, I don't like infractions -cry-

Seatherny
07-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Lol @ the fact I have had 3 infractions - all of which have been reversed.
Power abuse or just bad moderators? Two was given by Super Moderators and one by ---MAD---.


Thanks Bomb-Head for looking at this thread and reversing the infraction.

CrazyColaist
07-06-2007, 10:51 AM
I'm still waiting for my pointless reputation to be removed, and for a warning to be reversed. It's pathetic.

Sorry, why employ so many Smods if they won't actually do the work they are set?
Same i got one from . for ''posting old news'' when it was called ''post if the hotels down or laggy'' How the hell is that news?

indian8132
07-06-2007, 12:16 PM
I have a bit of pointless rep yet to be deleted, posted about it a while ago, but if Wayne has got exams, I am willing to wait a bit longer :) Cant any other people with no exams do it?

womanizer
07-06-2007, 12:33 PM
I asked for a name change like a week ago

le harry
07-06-2007, 12:36 PM
These new Smods that are hired are slack, I don't think they be up to the job and be taking it not as seriously, that or taking it too seriously and infractioning like mad. Just my opinion =]

indian8132
07-06-2007, 12:38 PM
I alsoasked for a name change a while ago, taking a while..

Energizer
07-06-2007, 02:49 PM
I requested a name change on my other account like a week ago, it still hasn't been changed.

Tristan
07-06-2007, 02:54 PM
I think that we're doing fine. Although only posts of 14 days or less are allowed to be infracted, I believe...

I've recently been rushed off my feet revising for my final paper that secures my first ever and first Science GCSE. Took it today and did super, so I should be on a bit more regularly but my exams in two weeks time are really quite important too.

Just thought that I'd inform you of my life at the moment to avoid any criticism. :)

DiscoPat
07-06-2007, 02:57 PM
I agree tbh somthing needs to be done

Seatherny
07-06-2007, 03:41 PM
The thing is not all Super Moderators have exam. You would think they would hire people from different countries and different time zones? I dont understand how Super Moderators can look through posts which are 6 months old, and not look at 5 reported infractions.
And about you have exams ... well looking for posts to infract which are 6 months old takes longer than looking at 5 reported infractions.

Looking at old posts which you can infract shows your desperation.

I thought hiring more super moderators would get things done faster, but its slowed it down.

:Jamie
07-06-2007, 03:46 PM
Lol you got an infraction from a post 6 months ago?

Jazza
07-06-2007, 03:53 PM
The only s-mods that aren't lazy were fired or quit a while ago. oh and except mr.sam because he is always active

Mr.Sam
07-06-2007, 03:54 PM
Most of the super moderators (Not sure about wayne) Have been busy with examinations, It seems the infraction thread has now been Updated.

Camy
07-06-2007, 03:54 PM
And about you have exams ... well looking for posts to infract which are 6 months old takes longer than looking at 5 reported infractions.

Looking at old posts which you can infract shows your desperation.
Y r u attacking him..(so to speak)
I thought it was Nintendonews who infracted u?

Ashhizzle
07-06-2007, 03:58 PM
Pfft, their work load is just piling up tbh

Enjoy the job Mod's :)

Mr.Sam
07-06-2007, 04:02 PM
Actually we are on top of everything we do - it just seems the report infractions thread was missed.


Pfft, their work load is just piling up tbh

Enjoy the job Mod's :)

Jordie
07-06-2007, 04:03 PM
just a query
where is wayne?

Bomb-Head
07-06-2007, 04:24 PM
Pfft, their work load is just piling up tbh

Enjoy the job Mod's :)


As Sam said, our work load isn't loading up, we're doing fine :)

Jackk
07-06-2007, 04:28 PM
Like to do the name changes then?
Ive been waiting for mine over a week.

Mr.Sam
07-06-2007, 04:30 PM
That is wayne's job - he has been away 4 days - i have no idea why sorry.
I've alerted Nvrspk4 about the vip threads and hopefully he'll sort it tonight when he is online.


Like to do the name changes then?
Ive been waiting for mine over a week.

Seatherny
07-06-2007, 04:47 PM
Y r u attacking him..(so to speak)
I thought it was Nintendonews who infracted u?

I knew that would come up.
The other smods have been around, but they should look at the infractions thread.
Alright, 1 smod forgot about it, but 6?

Ostinato
07-06-2007, 05:07 PM
Wayne. is busy with exams at the moment - and to be honest they're more important than your negative rep. It's a online, unreal forum so why are you getting so worked up over losing a few imaginary reputation points? :rolleyes:

Camy
07-06-2007, 05:19 PM
Wayne. is busy with exams at the moment - and to be honest they're more important than your negative rep. It's a online, unreal forum so why are you getting so worked up over losing a few imaginary reputation points? :rolleyes:
Exactly,
Its not as if its a live or death situation.

micky.blue.eyes
07-06-2007, 05:33 PM
I'm still waiting for my pointless reputation to be removed, and for a warning to be reversed. It's pathetic.

Sorry, why employ so many Smods if they won't actually do the work they are set?


The "Reported Reputations and Infractions" havent been looked at? And there are like 6 Super Moderators.

Also I got 2 pointless bad reps - and because Wayne. is friends with them, he didnt remove it. Unfair? That person bad repped someone else and it was pointless, her's wasnt removed either.

Also NintendoNews infractioned me 3-4 days ago for something I posted 6 months ago. A bit pointless dont you agree?
I was infractioned for calling Tash. stupid ... but she doesnt mind as she knows I am joking. He knew that but still infractioned me.



If she was offended by me calling her stupid, wouldnt she have reported me?

And if a reputation was not reversed, I think we should get a reason for it, instead of the post just being deleted.

NintendoNews shouldn't have given that infraction, but we all make mistakes. I don't know the whole situation but I'm guessing the thread got bumped and he saw you broke the rule and infracted you without looking at the date and time of the post.
Reversing unfair infractions isn't our only job, we have many more things to do as you know and they have a higher priority.
I have exams for the next 2 weeks and I'm already revising so I'm quite busy,
I tend to check the reported posts first as they should be dealt with first in my opinion, I then look at the report to smod thread. I usually don't have time to check if people reported infractions after checking the reported posts and report to smods thread.


Whenever smods are online, they just look at other threads. Not all smods have exams either. They have time to look at posts which are 6 months old, but not posts which are new? ;)
That happened once and you got infracted for it, but the infraction got reversed so I don't get why you're still complaining. And it's not like we look at old posts every moment we're on line because you get infracted for 1 old post.


I alsoasked for a name change a while ago, taking a while..


I requested a name change on my other account like a week ago, it still hasn't been changed.


The thing is not all Super Moderators have exam. You would think they would hire people from different countries and different time zones? I dont understand how Super Moderators can look through posts which are 6 months old, and not look at 5 reported infractions.
And about you have exams ... well looking for posts to infract which are 6 months old takes longer than looking at 5 reported infractions.

Looking at old posts which you can infract shows your desperation.

I thought hiring more super moderators would get things done faster, but its slowed it down.
It's not slowing things down, we're just very busy.
We can't hire people from different time zones if there aren't any people who could become a super moderator. (But I'm sure you can give some examples of people who could become a super moderator and who do live in a different time zone.) Most people who live in different time zones visit the habbox.us and its forum and they mod there.


Like to do the name changes then?
Ive been waiting for mine over a week.

To all the people who are complaining about pointless rep and name changes:
It's not our job to deal with those. Wayne is very busy right now and his real life is more important than some pointless reps.

Seatherny
07-06-2007, 05:47 PM
Wayne. is busy with exams at the moment - and to be honest they're more important than your negative rep. It's a online, unreal forum so why are you getting so worked up over losing a few imaginary reputation points? :rolleyes:

I wasnt moaning about my reputation problem not being looked at, I was saying how he doesnt remove bad reps which were given out by his friends.

Also, not ALL Smods hav exams. If they do then I apologise.

timROGERS
07-06-2007, 06:25 PM
In the case of the infraction I gave you, I didn't know it was a thread from 6 months ago. I received a report about the post, and it broke the rules, so I infracted you.

Catzsy
07-06-2007, 07:19 PM
In the case of the infraction I gave you, I didn't know it was a thread from 6 months ago. I received a report about the post, and it broke the rules, so I infracted you.


Well I have made this mistake myself but the fact is that Smods should check the post is 2 weeks or less - there is no excuse really except to apologise.

I do think some of the moderating and complaint handling is getting quite harsh i.e. infracting somebody for saying pee'd off which is not filtered and is a word in its own right that isn't filtered not even on Habbo Hotel e.g. Pee peed peeing. Even the dictionary defines it as a 'nice way' of expressing the word Urine. The person was not using it as an insult he was merely saying he was peed off.

Other the other hand I saw an infraction being reversed for somebody who told somebody by way of abbreviated letters to get the **** off the forum which is clearly avoiding the filter and against the rules and if nothing else is very rude! See section 3 of the link below :S
Sierk's direction re: Swearing:
http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item2#faq_new_faq_item_swearin gandfilter


As I have said before its a good idea that new mods receive mentoring and looking after by way of supervision otherwise these things do happen.

dannyisnotamazing
07-06-2007, 07:28 PM
With infractions unfair if a moderator says it's fair. (the one who gave it) and then more than likely other moderators will say it's fair so you can't win without taking it to higher management. ><*.

The "Request your VIP features here" hasn't been updated for a few days, fair enough Wayne has exams irl and revision (I think?) but still.. there's other management online..

The whole staff list is really slacking

Catzsy
07-06-2007, 07:53 PM
[QUOTE=#Danny;3577345]With infractions unfair if a moderator says it's fair. (the one who gave it) and then more than likely other moderators will say it's fair so you can't win without taking it to higher management. ><*.

Well I can't say this was true when I was there because we all make mistakes. If one was made the Smod would pm the Smod/Mod concerned to say why they felt it should be reversed and there was usually an agreement. On the odd occasion where when an agreement couldn't be reached the FM would decide. The important thing though is the members and to make sure the infractions/warnings are fair and if necessary sort them out not who is to blame for issuing a wrong infraction. I have always thought the saying 'those who make no mistakes do no work' quite a good one.

dannyisnotamazing
07-06-2007, 07:56 PM
Well I can't say this was true when I was there because we all make mistakes. If one was made the Smod would pm the Smod/Mod concerned to say why they felt it should be reversed and there was usually an agreement. On the odd occasion where when an agreement couldn't be reached the FM would decide. The important thing though is the members and to make sure the infractions/warnings are fair and if necessary sort them out not who is to blame for issuing a wrong infraction. I have always thought the saying 'those who make no mistakes do no work' quite a good one.

Well when I got infracted for saying 'pikey' as a joke when it's been said for ages and then another moderator said it's highly innapropiete and then other smods did too and now it's a word you get infractioned for when it wasn't before. :rolleyes:

Catzsy
07-06-2007, 07:58 PM
Well when I got infracted for saying 'pikey' as a joke when it's been said for ages and then another moderator said it's highly innapropiete and then other smods did too and now it's a word you get infractioned for when it wasn't before. :rolleyes:

Yes but it was sorted and was more the exception than the rule, I think. As i said I can only comment on what happened when I was there. =]

Aflux
07-06-2007, 08:10 PM
It may be hard to believe but super moderators and Wayne. do actually have lives.

Jazza
07-06-2007, 08:51 PM
It may be hard to believe but super moderators and Wayne. do actually have lives.

lol best joke ever

Bomb-Head
07-06-2007, 08:52 PM
lol best joke ever


No really, we do ;)

Mr.Sam
07-06-2007, 08:53 PM
I was never told that!!!

No really, we do ;)

Aflux
07-06-2007, 08:54 PM
lol best joke ever
So that must be the worst?

VPSwow
07-06-2007, 08:56 PM
Wayne hasnt been on since 2nd and i have ordered VIP subforum 3 days ago and it still hasnt been sorted out.

Its waisting my subscription.... :( *** ON Wayne sort it out!!

Bomb-Head
07-06-2007, 09:01 PM
I was never told that!!!

Oops, I don't think you were meant to know !

Nick-
07-06-2007, 09:14 PM
The only s-mods that aren't lazy were fired or quit a while ago. oh and except mr.sam because he is always active
Excuse me? :S
Im online most of the time and I often cover what goes on in the mornings, having time off at the moment means I can check a lot of the issues early in the morning when most of you are off at school etc. Unfortunately as it has been said before, I do have a life outside this Forum which takes priority over this because, lets face it, its just a Forum.
Slanderous comments like that do not make it any easier to Moderate in the few times we do get time to do so in our 'schedules' and often real life aspects actually take presidence over online aspects.
Please think twice before making that sort of generalising comment because there is no way you could possibly know that it is true for every member of the Moderation team.

If you want an SMod to do something for you that should be done anyway it doesnt hurt to send them a quick and polite PM asking them to check over a thread or just review some of their infractions privately. Its entirely possible that we log off sometimes and miss out a task because we've forgotten or do not have time to deal with it at the moment. There was really no need to make this sort of thread as you can quite easily and politely PM the correct Staff member and I'm sure they will be happy to oblige to a request if it is within their power to do so.

Jordie
07-06-2007, 09:16 PM
Wayne hasnt been on since 2nd and i have ordered VIP subforum 3 days ago and it still hasnt been sorted out.

Its waisting my subscription.... :( *** ON Wayne sort it out!!


ive been waiting for my usertitle to be updated and my rep omg!
i can understand if he has exams but he didnt even say he was going to be away a few days:S lets have a riot in the hallway:)

Fonejacker
07-06-2007, 11:33 PM
Excuse me? :S
Im online most of the time and I often cover what goes on in the mornings, having time off at the moment means I can check a lot of the issues early in the morning when most of you are off at school etc. Unfortunately as it has been said before, I do have a life outside this Forum which takes priority over this because, lets face it, its just a Forum.
Slanderous comments like that do not make it any easier to Moderate in the few times we do get time to do so in our 'schedules' and often real life aspects actually take presidence over online aspects.
Please think twice before making that sort of generalising comment because there is no way you could possibly know that it is true for every member of the Moderation team.

If you want an SMod to do something for you that should be done anyway it doesnt hurt to send them a quick and polite PM asking them to check over a thread or just review some of their infractions privately. Its entirely possible that we log off sometimes and miss out a task because we've forgotten or do not have time to deal with it at the moment. There was really no need to make this sort of thread as you can quite easily and politely PM the correct Staff member and I'm sure they will be happy to oblige to a request if it is within their power to do so.

I agree not just because u helped me out, But u are on the forum alot. Rosie Dan garion and you were/are the best mods

le harry
08-06-2007, 06:11 AM
I agree with that, Micky & Nick are the only decent smods left on here I think, Oh and Mr.Sam is good as well. The rest don't have a clue what they are suppose to be do properly.

The other Smods are OKAY, but nothing more.

@xP
08-06-2007, 06:25 AM
If wayne has or still has exams i can live with bad repuatation untill then.
He could of hired someone however to take over the bad repuatation and infractions if he was away.

However exams are more important than a few bad rep and infractions we all have to be patient. Wayne wants to do his best. ;)

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 07:01 AM
I think, when a Super Moderator / Admin is going to have time off, someone else should try and do their work for them. The exams last till the end of this month. If Wayne. isnt back by then, its wasting people's subscriptions.

And Super Moderators are making too many mistakes. If I was infractioned once, then it would be fine. But I have been infractioned three times - all of which were unfair and reversed.

Is there like a agreement between smods?

Smod: Hey, I will infract as many people as I can so I get my logs up.
Smod 2: Great idea, and I will reverse them, so mine goes high too.
Both smods: YAY!!

Nick-
08-06-2007, 07:49 AM
We do not have public Moderator Logs, we dont have a published report every 2 weeks or every month stating how well we are doing. Which essentially makes moderator logs pointless to SMods because we dont see them and dont get any sense of satisfaction or job reward from knowing we have more moderator logs than another individual.
2 of the infractions that were reversed were issued by the same moderator, the way you are portraying this is that three different moderators issued 3 unjust infractions for three entirely different offences. Which makes your situation seem much worse than it really is. If anything, this should be more of a personal vendetta you have against one member rather than the entire Super Moderator and Administration team.

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 08:08 AM
Just noticed. Two by NintendoNews and one by ---MAD---
Isnt that saying something about NintendoNews?

Anyway, just trying to say, if a smod or admin is away, they should request someone else to do their job, otherwise peoples subscription is wasted and your members start thinking you are lazy.

le harry
08-06-2007, 08:56 AM
Nick, everybody loves you, stop arguing and keep it that way :P.

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 08:58 AM
Hmm, i am not flaming ALL the smods. A lot of them are great and deserve credit. Some are just crap. They dont have a clue about moderating.

NintendoNews is in year 9, so he doesnt have exams :)

le harry
08-06-2007, 08:59 AM
It's because they are new, but from the way I look at it, some just should stay Moderators as I don't think they are ready for the responsiblilty of Super Mods :).

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 09:01 AM
Doesnt really matter if they are new. They have been picked as smods because they are "capable" or doing a good job. If they are gonna make loads of mistakes, not have time to moderate and do the job, they should have either denied the offer, resign or get fired.

When I had exams, I didnt make excuses, I just stepped down. So did other smods and admins at that time.

Elkaa
08-06-2007, 09:03 AM
It's because they are new, but from the way I look at it, some just should stay Moderators as I don't think they are ready for the responsiblilty of Super Mods :).

Unless you've seen it recently, you'd probably be amazed at the amount of work that each Super Moderator puts into the job they do. Not only do they have to Moderate the entire Forum, they've got to keep this little noob Moderator on track - Which isn't easy!

On a more serious note, from what I've seen so far the Super Moderator team works really hard and I don't see any problems with how it's going. Come next week, I suspect it will be all systems as normal :)

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 09:05 AM
Last year, a super moderator was able to do all the jobs on their own. They had more responsibilies. We had to create a user note and PM the user - which takes longer than infracting users.

So if one super moderator could do it all on their own last year, why cant six super moderators do it? Their job should be easier?


In the case of the infraction I gave you, I didn't know it was a thread from 6 months ago. I received a report about the post, and it broke the rules, so I infracted you.

Then why didnt you reverse it or reply to my PM which I sent to you? That PM quoted Tash. where she said it was a joke and I said it was a 6 month old post?

le harry
08-06-2007, 09:12 AM
Unless you've seen it recently, you'd probably be amazed at the amount of work that each Super Moderator puts into the job they do. Not only do they have to Moderate the entire Forum, they've got to keep this little noob Moderator on track - Which isn't easy!

On a more serious note, from what I've seen so far the Super Moderator team works really hard and I don't see any problems with how it's going. Come next week, I suspect it will be all systems as normal :)

Normal Moderating is easy, when I was one awhile back it wasn't a challenge, so you'll do fine. Just don't get the forum to hate you, be a nice mod.

I'm not naming any names, but some of the Smods should not be in the position they are after like 2 months of normal moderation anyway, people argue that "But they have worked hard n all", the only reason they were hired is because of the rush to fill Catszy's etc spots, I'm sure there would be a much more.. organised? expierienced? team of moderators. But w/e my view.

:eusa_whis

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 09:16 AM
They only need a maximum of 2-3 super moderators. They need normal moderators and quiet a lot of them. They need to pick the very best of the moderators to be promoted to super moderator. Just because a super mod leaves/gets fired, doesnt mean they have to promote someone .. even if they are rubbish.
Suppose all the super mods resign now - does that mean they would just promote every single mod?


I think these 3 should be the only super mods:

micky.blue.eyes
Mr.Sam
Nick-

Those three are by far the best smods.

le harry
08-06-2007, 09:33 AM
Suppose all the super mods resign now - does that mean they would just promote every single mod?


Does someone have to answer that :rolleyes:

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 09:43 AM
Also, smods need to think before they act. I have been infractioned twice for something which was obviously a joke.

I just got infractioned for going "DAVE SCAMMED ME 200 DINOS :'( I DNT HAVE A LIFE. (Btw i am joking)"

Mr.Sam
08-06-2007, 09:45 AM
The post didn't say what you just quoted...
I did state
"Please do not accuse someone of scamming - even if it is a joke."
if it is a joke you still accused someone and it will put doubt in peoples mind who fail to see it as a joke.. :)


Also, smods need to think before they act. I have been infractioned twice for something which was obviously a joke.

I just got infractioned for going "DAVE SCAMMED ME 200 DINOS :'( I DNT HAVE A LIFE. (Btw i am joking)"

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 09:47 AM
But why would anyone have a doubt when its just plain obvious I dont have 200 dinos. On top of that I said "Its a joke". Annnnd it was in the spam forum.

GoldenMerc
08-06-2007, 09:48 AM
He has 150 thrones not 200 8-)
It could be taken as a joke or it might not of ;P

Catzsy
08-06-2007, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE=ksoz;3578659]Last year, a super moderator was able to do all the jobs on their own. They had more responsibilies. We had to create a user note and PM the user - which takes longer than infracting users.

So if one super moderator could do it all on their own last year, why cant six super moderators do it? Their job should be easier?



Well TBF the role has changed and Smods are now expected to do a lot of moderating as there are fewer mods. Also there is an increase in paper work -User notes are used more frequently for other things and an infraction can take as long as a pm template and user note - I did use this system. Also because of fewer mods the post reports are more and they have other duties such as checking infractions and infraction complaints. The problem doesn't lie with the people it lies with the training/supervision and possibly making some Smods without the necessary experience. This is something I have been saying for the past few months. A Mod/Smod is appointed and basically just left to get on with it so mistakes are going to occur. When I was appointed I had a great deal of help from Baving and Seacat who kept a close eye on me until they thought I was okay.

The idea in essence is quite a good one as it makes the moderation team a lot more flexible and on hand in case of spammers etc. Where this falls down in my opinion is that security could be compromised and too many inexperienced hands in the banning/caution pot without the necessary training. Also I do not think inexperienced Smods should deal with infraction complaints - they were gradually introduced to this when I was there.

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 10:40 AM
Just hire some decent good moderators.
Have 3 great super mods (the 3 I mentioned above). There will be no problems.

Its stupid hiring un-experienced and brainless super mods. (that isnt aimed at any smods in particular so i dont deserve a infraction).

le harry
08-06-2007, 11:21 AM
I think that all that has been said about Wayne and stuff has been said so you should let the thread die down. The new mods are inexpierienced, I'm sure Catzsy, Garion, Dan etc were all as well when they first joined. Although they seem to be infracting like crazy, they are just doing what they think is right :).

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 11:24 AM
I am talking about the smods, not mods. I dont care about Wayne as he has exams. It would be unfair and stupid of me to flame him.

le harry
08-06-2007, 11:28 AM
I meant Smods ^_^.

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 11:30 AM
Have a look at this then:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=362866

And I was saying they were lazy - not looking at stuff they should have been looking at.

Catzsy
08-06-2007, 11:43 AM
I think that all that has been said about Wayne and stuff has been said so you should let the thread die down. The new mods are inexpierienced, I'm sure Catzsy, Garion, Dan etc were all as well when they first joined. Although they seem to be infracting like crazy, they are just doing what they think is right :).


Well we had proved ourselves , with encouragement and training from the then management, to be capable mods when we got promoted so most of the job such as knowing the rules and issuing infractions fairly was covered although yes we still made the odd mistake. Doing what you think is right isn't what is required. What is required is knowing the rules and enforcing them but with a common sense attitude. When one isn't sure then asking because assistance is needed. I still needed assistance about torrents and VB bullitens right up to when I was let go so to speak. Sometimes I still had to do what I thought wasn't right as the rules required it. It has nothing to do with your own personal opinions and shouldn't. =]

sierk1
08-06-2007, 01:51 PM
The "Reported Reputations and Infractions" havent been looked at? And there are like 6 Super Moderators.

Also I got 2 pointless bad reps - and because Wayne. is friends with them, he didnt remove it. Unfair? That person bad repped someone else and it was pointless, her's wasnt removed either.

Also NintendoNews infractioned me 3-4 days ago for something I posted 6 months ago. A bit pointless dont you agree?
I was infractioned for calling Tash. stupid ... but she doesnt mind as she knows I am joking. He knew that but still infractioned me.



If she was offended by me calling her stupid, wouldnt she have reported me?

And if a reputation was not reversed, I think we should get a reason for it, instead of the post just being deleted.

If you think pointless rep was not removed by Wayne. that should have been removed, you can send a pm to J1MI or ---MAD--- when he is back to ask them to look into it.

I don't think infractions should be given for old posts, I thought we added that as a guide line to the mods guide, I will look into that.


habbox is a bit stupid, you cant even upload an archive of images with scripted rooms on it.. its a folder!

I don't understand this, what do you mean by uploading an archive?

Putal
08-06-2007, 01:53 PM
If you think pointless rep was not removed by Wayne. that should have been removed, you can send a pm to J1MI or ---MAD--- when he is back to ask them to look into it.

I don't think infractions should be given for old posts, I thought we added that as a guide line to the mods guide, I will look into that.



I don't understand this, what do you mean by uploading an archive?

He means they can't upload zipped folders for people to download to the forum with images in, which I think should be the case because people can put things like viruses in folders.

PenguinFluid
08-06-2007, 01:54 PM
I agree with Jurai
Viruses , keyloggers or anything could be in those folders.

Seatherny
08-06-2007, 03:00 PM
.zip and .rar files etc should never be allowed for security reasons. You will get viruses everywhere.

Eckuii
08-06-2007, 08:21 PM
I agree, there was never a problem before with less moderators, if you take the smod job then you are expected to do double as much work as a normal moderator anyway, thats why its a promotion.

is there a smod assigned to each forum or something? If not thats stupid, becase other super moderators are likely to expect the other ones to do the work, and vice versa.

The moderation team is way too strict now, you have to get like so many logs and stuff through the week, or you get fired or sommat. I remember I got fired for that reason not long back, after been in the job 3 week, which I was away for 2 due to internet problems.

Moderator Team should go back to how it was, HabboxForum Management come up with these brilliant ideas, and now everyone is complaing.
I cant believe how stupid it is that nobody has even done the "Report Reputation Problems" thread, it probably takes 30 seconds for each post, that is really pathetic.

Joltersoft
08-06-2007, 08:23 PM
wayne's got exams.

Eckuii
08-06-2007, 08:25 PM
wayne's got exams.

Im not knocking Wayne. he is the best Super Moderator atm, but hes one guy, and with all this "extra work" as the super moderators like to call it, obviously he cant carry the whole team on his back.
:S

Joltersoft
08-06-2007, 08:27 PM
Exactly, and i swear he's an administrator

Catzsy
08-06-2007, 08:38 PM
Im not knocking Wayne. he is the best Super Moderator atm, but hes one guy, and with all this "extra work" as the super moderators like to call it, obviously he cant carry the whole team on his back.
:S

Wayne hasn't been an Smod for a long time - he is AFM and does reputation, admin and thngs like that although he does help out on the forum as well.

Eckuii
08-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Wayne hasn't been an Smod for a long time - he is AFM and does reputation, admin and thngs like that although he does help out on the forum as well.

oh lol :P I havent been on the forum in a long time to be honest :P.
Well cant just any super moderator deal with reputation whilst he is away? :S I thought you could edit reputation problems when you was a super moderator, I cant remember :p

What is j1mi then? :S

Nick-
08-06-2007, 08:43 PM
J1MI was recently promoted to AFM and unfortunately SMods cant deal with reputation problems. :(

Catzsy
08-06-2007, 08:44 PM
J1M1 was recently promoted to AFM and does mostly management of the Mod team I think as well as other admin. Don't know what arrangements were made to look after Wayne's work.

le harry
09-06-2007, 03:23 AM
Well then allow more Smod's who can BE trusted to deal with reputation problems so if an unexpected problem with exams / internet problems come up you don't have the whole forum after you when you come back.

Seatherny
09-06-2007, 08:08 AM
wayne's got exams.

Well done on saying what everyone else just said :)

joshuar
09-06-2007, 11:09 AM
Well then allow more Smod's who can BE trusted to deal with reputation problems so if an unexpected problem with exams / internet problems come up you don't have the whole forum after you when you come back.

The forums permissions system doesn't give Super Moderators the approprate powers to deal with reputation problems, only Forum Administrators can, and as Wayne is away and ---MAD--- it means we are running a bit slower than normal admin wise as we are down 2 admins.

le harry
09-06-2007, 11:24 AM
Well then that's a bit silly now isn't it. ;)

Blinger1
09-06-2007, 11:31 AM
Well then that's a bit silly now isn't it. ;)
not their fault. I'm sure wayne. didnt chose to have exams on this date..?

le harry
09-06-2007, 11:33 AM
No not that, that you can't give Super Moderators certain Admin privledges.

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