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GoldenMerc
15-06-2007, 08:35 AM
Well i was thinking,People are getting alot of rep and people hate getting infractions ect.... but maybe every time you get a infraction you lose a certain ammount of rep points?

le harry
15-06-2007, 08:39 AM
Sounds like an okay idea, depending on the severity of the infractions.

GoldenMerc
15-06-2007, 08:40 AM
like a infraction not a warning,Maybe 1 point infraction = -10?

le harry
15-06-2007, 08:42 AM
I know, but there is difference on infractions. Like Accusing of scamming.. then posting a bad image or something, I'm not familiar with the infraction system. But a bit more then 10 - maybe 30 or something.

Yoshimitsui
15-06-2007, 09:14 AM
It sounds like an ok idea wether it is possible without it being done manually or not i don't know. But something like 5 each infraction good be better!

Seatherny
15-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Sounds okay.

Catzsy
15-06-2007, 09:21 AM
Well I think an infraction/warning is quite enough. Why should they be penalised twice? :S

GoldenMerc
15-06-2007, 09:21 AM
I think it would have to be manually though because theirs not a plugin on vBulletin.org that i can see...

Catzsy
15-06-2007, 09:27 AM
I think it would have to be manually though because theirs not a plugin on vBulletin.org that i can see...

Do you realise how much extra admin that would cause? Why do you think people should be given extra penalties?

Yoshimitsui
15-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Becuase some people on the forum are mad about their rep and belive it's wat makes them look beter on the forum. If they start to loose it, could encourage less rule breaking?

:Jamie
15-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Infraction is enough.

Catzsy
15-06-2007, 09:37 AM
Becuase some people on the forum are mad about their rep and belive it's wat makes them look beter on the forum. If they start to loose it, could encourage less rule breaking?

No I don't think so at all and it would cause a lot of extra work for the Admins. What encourages less rule breaking is fair consistent moderation but there will always be the hardcore who are quite happy to break the rules and also happy pay the consequences.

Because people are mad about rep does not mean you should crack a nut with a sledgehammer which is what it sounds like to me.

Yoshimitsui
15-06-2007, 09:43 AM
I see what you mean! But i wouldant suggest, doing it manually.

But what others think i don't know!

Lµke
15-06-2007, 10:15 AM
I agree with Catzsy on this one, it would cause a very large ammount of administration, and it wouldnt fall on forum moderators, it would have to be forwarded via PM then edited by a administrator with user editing permissions.

Theres no point to it, and if you ask forum super moderators on average how many infractions they give out per day, or even per month, that number is likely to be in double digits atleast.

Nixt
15-06-2007, 10:18 AM
I personally think this could go either way. I think if the idea were to be implemented then certain members would have fun getting as many Infractions as possible in order to get a negative amount of reputation. I think, on top of the fact it's too much work for the Administration team, it's a bad idea as it also attracts rule breaking as well as stops it.

le harry
15-06-2007, 10:44 AM
Half the people in the forum don't even care about infractions though - they arn't visible, they have no point & have no concequences to them.

Catzsy
15-06-2007, 10:49 AM
Half the people in the forum don't even care about infractions though - they arn't visible, they have no point & have no concequences to them.


Cause they do - cautions, Temp bans and Perm Bans. If you are arguing that members should be penalised rep instead of infractions well that is a different discussion entirely.

le harry
15-06-2007, 10:52 AM
I just think that there should be more severity in rule breaking. Infractions just arn't enough, but that's only my opinion. I just never see anybody complaining they got an infraction.

Putal
15-06-2007, 10:54 AM
I don’t think you can do automatically, an admin would have to do it manually and I think that admins are already up to their neck with jobs.

It is a good idea though.

:Liam
15-06-2007, 11:00 AM
I dont think this would be a good idea because it would annoy people who buy reputation.

le harry
15-06-2007, 11:16 AM
So? If they cant abide by the rules then they deserve to be punished.

Shawnstra
17-06-2007, 08:39 AM
I think this should be implemented. If someone does something wrong, obviously he is less reputable, which should be reflected in the reputation system. The infraction system is mainly used by admins to give bans, and isn't really useful to punish a rule breaker.

Hecktix
17-06-2007, 08:47 AM
Bloody hell this is an ONLINE FORUM.

Get over it for crying out loud.

This is a poor idea because:

A) Too much work for admin.

B) Why, as Catzsy said should members be penalised TWICE?

C) Those of you saying infractions dont matter, get a certain amount, get banned. So yeah infractions do matter to people.

Stop being so stupid and trying to put pathetic ideas into management's heads, wasting their time, when they could be doing something more useful.

nvrspk4
18-06-2007, 03:42 AM
I do agree that it would be a good idea. I see no problem with being penalised twice, because they're not really being, additionally some people don't care about infractions.

You know the saying, "Don't do the crime..."

However since there is no way to automate it, I don't think it can be done. The admin oversight is just too much.

Mentor
18-06-2007, 05:11 AM
Seems totaly pointless to me, if people are willing to risk getting banned there hardly gona give a crap about there rep points "/

ps: It would be a **** easy mod to write, just open up the file containing the add warning system , add in to the sql query the table for rep points, and then set the valud to - 10 of its current value or somthing like that. Then your done. Possibly add a second query to leave a not in the infraction history system if u want to as well. It only gets complex if you wana do it properly (no hard coded) so it can be edited and altered via the acp.

@xP
18-06-2007, 07:06 AM
Infraction is enough.

agreed, like catzy said we already get warned/infractioned.
Plus infractions expire.
When the infraction expires will you get your rep back, i very much doubt it.

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