Time to Vote!

[DaveTaylor]

In response to: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=366813

We, the members of this forum (Well whats left of it) should now have time to vote on who is admin and who is not, there is alot of problems within the management system now adays compared to the old and better days, now it's time we have our say :)

[Ostinato]

Like I said in the last thread, it will simply lead to people who are popular becoming management but they may have no actual knowledge or expertise, as well as maturity, to adequately run the forum.

Also, people could end up putting someone in place who would simply aspire to try and ruin the forum and bring it down.

[.saurav.]

Obviously management would pick the candidates. Dave, make a poll pls xD

[Hecktix]

If sierk chose the candidates it could work.

[DaveTaylor]

The "popular" people on the forum aren't exactly the brightest i agree, but, people say catzy, hazel etc should run it, I don't what there like, but they will haver to put themselves forward to be allowed to be voted for, they would have to prove information where they have the experience from first of course.

[Energizer]

Yeah, I think it's a good idea.

[Nixt]

I agree, although I doubt it will happen.

[dirrty]

i think it would be a good idea.

[.saurav.]

Davvve make a poll

WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE
WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE
GET RID OF MAD
KEEP MAD

Multiple selection allowed xD

[DaveTaylor]

I agree, although I doubt it will happen.
(Bold) Wouldn't surprise me, if MAD got a vote in it

Won't let me create one ¬_¬

[.saurav.]

IMO, out of everyone, Catzsy would make the best FM. She isnt biased. She doesnt argue either.

[Nixt]

IMO, out of everyone, Catzsy would make the best FM. She isnt biased. She doesnt argue either.

I agree. I think Catzsy would be a brilliant choice as she is both good at her job and also well liked amongst members which allows her to communicate with them easily.

[Hecktix]

I agree. I think Catzsy would be a brilliant choice as she is both good at her job and also well liked amongst members which allows her to communicate with them easily.

nah sod FM give her GM

CATZSY FTW!

[.saurav.]

MAD seems to think he is always right. He said he isnt here for popularity or to be liked. He is here to run a forum >.>

[dirrty]

IMO, out of everyone, Catzsy would make the best FM. She isnt biased. She doesnt argue either.
i totally agree there.

[Tash.]

IMO, out of everyone, Catzsy would make the best FM. She isnt biased. She doesnt argue either.

Completely agree with that. She's exactly the kind of person needed.

[Nixt]

MAD seems to think he is always right. He said he isnt here for popularity or to be liked. He is here to run a forum >.>

I agree. Popularity should not be a major issue, but one's ability to communicate with those who they are providing a service for (the members) should be of a high standard and often a high standard of communication between members and an individual leads to popularity. So they are one and the same and thus popularity can be important.

[Aflux]

I think it's fine as it is .

[reindeer.]

I think it's fine as it is .
lol .

[Energizer]

IMO, out of everyone, Catzsy would make the best FM. She isnt biased. She doesnt argue either.


I agree. I think Catzsy would be a brilliant choice as she is both good at her job and also well liked amongst members which allows her to communicate with them easily.


nah sod FM give her GM

CATZSY FTW!


MAD seems to think he is always right. He said he isnt here for popularity or to be liked. He is here to run a forum >.>


Completely agree with that. She's exactly the kind of person needed.

I agree.

[DaveTaylor]

catzsy it is I think :P

[Kardan]

I mean, I can't stand how the forum is being run, and that some of the people that left/got fired were much better and should be admins now, but voting for who is admin and not isn't the way around it.
If you were a hard working admin (If there's such a thing :rolleyes:) you wouldn't be happy when the forum voted for you to be fired.

But, it could work on future admin decisions, where the forum decide if they're capable of becoming an admin, if not, they remain in their current position? That could work.

[:Jamie]

IMO, out of everyone, Catzsy would make the best FM. She isnt biased. She doesnt argue either.

Agreed.

[Mr.OSH]

So person A is in control of the forum, he is smart and has great technical experience and if brilliant and running the system and keep the forum in shape.

So now we implement a "democracy" type system and person B gets put in control, he's very popular but doesn't have a clue on how to run the forum and does everything other people tell him.

Doing this would be a bad idea as it would cause the management to fall apart, its better the way it is at the moment.

[Kardan]

So person A is in control of the forum, he is smart and has great technical experience and if brilliant and running the system and keep the forum in shape.

So now we implement a "democracy" type system and person B gets put in control, he's very popular but doesn't have a clue on how to run the forum and does everything other people tell him.

Doing this would be a bad idea as it would cause the management to fall apart, its better the way it is at the moment.

Agreed, it's like the public voting David Beckham in for the new PM instead of Gordon Brown. The country would start to fall apart if the government got replaced by popular people.

[.saurav.]

So person A is in control of the forum, he is smart and has great technical experience and if brilliant and running the system and keep the forum in shape.

So now we implement a "democracy" type system and person B gets put in control, he's very popular but doesn't have a clue on how to run the forum and does everything other people tell him.

Doing this would be a bad idea as it would cause the management to fall apart, its better the way it is at the moment.

But the management decide the candidates :)
If candidate A wins. Candidate B will be promoted when Candidate A leaves.
This way Candidate B can have more experience.

[samsaBEAR]

^ i like that idea
it just all depends on whether mad will actually ever leave

[cocaine]

i somehow doubt MAD would happily give up his position.

[.saurav.]

MAD should be ashamed ... all these great staff resigning because of him.

[DiscoPat]

i somehow doubt MAD would happily give up his position.
lol:rolleyes:

[Liam!]

i agreeeee.

[nvrspk4]

Ok, I am going to release a shocker here:

I disagreee! OMGZ SHOOT HIM! ITS BCOS HEZ PART OF KORRUPT MANAGEMENTZ OMGZ!

Sorry I had to get that in there before someone else did ;) Anyway, the reason I disagree is if its by popularity, the right choice will not always be made. Now in this case, Catzsy is a great person and people would vote for her, but there might not always be a great choice. If you all have student council elections in your school, you know the popular kids who are most probably airheads get elected (in most places anyway).

Also, members can't see mod logs, reversed infractions, behind the scenes work, teamwork, response to stress, etc. etc., so they wouldn't see the essence of that staff member.

To put it in retrospect, look at where democratic elections has gotten America and Britain, and look where running a business from the top down has gotten Microsoft :P Course Habbox isn't a business, but its somewhat closer to that management structure than to a democracy.

I'm not saying that Habbox is perfect, because its not, but yeah. Anyway, these are my opinions, doesn't mean you have to agree with them, nor does it mean they are law, but I can express mine just as you can express yours (within the rules of course ;))

[Mentor]

Meh, i like Mad, he does the job and does it well. Id much rather have someone who can actualy get something done, than someone who is to scared to take any action in case someone disgrees with it or thinks its a bad idea.
No new forums would ever get added, none would ever be removed, no staff would be fired or hired, it would be totaly non-functional and pointless.

Theres always gona be some people who disagree with any desison, anything you do is gonna annoy someone somewhere. Its stupid trying to please everyone, so haveing a FM who can take the initaive and makes desions based on whats best for the forum, not whats best for there personal image or popularty, is a good choice.

[Mr.OSH]

Ok, I am going to release a shocker here:

I disagreee! OMGZ SHOOT HIM! ITS BCOS HEZ PART OF KORRUPT MANAGEMENTZ OMGZ!

Sorry I had to get that in there before someone else did ;) Anyway, the reason I disagree is if its by popularity, the right choice will not always be made. Now in this case, Catzsy is a great person and people would vote for her, but there might not always be a great choice. If you all have student council elections in your school, you know the popular kids who are most probably airheads get elected (in most places anyway).

Also, members can't see mod logs, reversed infractions, behind the scenes work, teamwork, response to stress, etc. etc., so they wouldn't see the essence of that staff member.

To put it in retrospect, look at where democratic elections has gotten America and Britain, and look where running a business from the top down has gotten Microsoft :P Course Habbox isn't a business, but its somewhat closer to that management structure than to a democracy.

I'm not saying that Habbox is perfect, because its not, but yeah. Anyway, these are my opinions, doesn't mean you have to agree with them, nor does it mean they are law, but I can express mine just as you can express yours (within the rules of course ;))

Yes, expanding on what nvrspk said, members cannot see the hard work that people put in behind the scenes of Habbox, so the public choosing would turn it into a popularity contest rather than a decision based on who is best for the job and if they deserve it.

[---MAD---]

Meh, i like Mad, he does the job and does it well. Id much rather have someone who can actualy get something done, than someone who is to scared to take any action in case someone disgrees with it or thinks its a bad idea.
No new forums would ever get added, none would ever be removed, no staff would be fired or hired, it would be totaly non-functional and pointless.

Theres always gona be some people who disagree with any desison, anything you do is gonna annoy someone somewhere. Its stupid trying to please everyone, so haveing a FM who can take the initaive and makes desions based on whats best for the forum, not whats best for there personal image or popularty, is a good choice.
Some people don't quite understand that running a community as big as Habbox is not just about making friends and becoming popular. Its much more than that. If I wanted to be popular I would have to do nothing basically, because there will always be at least one person who dislikes a decision made. This is why popularity is not whats important. Anyone who has runa big site or forum like Habbox before will understand that. Anyone who doesn't, will find it a bit harder to understand unless they start running a site/forum themself :).

I mean suuure its great to have a friend running the forum you use because you know they will do whatever you want (or at least you would imagine) or maybe they will give you job as admin just for saying hi to them every afternoon. That just wouldn't work.

You may think management is corrupt or whatever but trust me, Habbox is more liberal than many other sites I have seen as they allow you to post your opinion so much more (if its put in a sensible manner). I have seen sites where they just delete all the negative threads and ban the thread starter. Habbox doesnt do that and you can tell because this thread and many other threads like this have never been deleted nor hidden unless become totally unacceptable which in a few circumstances have done so.

[le harry]

I'm waiting for the person to quote MAD saying, hi mad admin pl0x.

[sierk1]

I think voting will give too many problems. It works better if we just promote the super moderators that have been staff the longest and work the hardest to Admin when we need a new admin.

[Ostinato]

You may think management is corrupt or whatever but trust me, Habbox is more liberal than many other sites I have seen as they allow you to post your opinion so much more (if its put in a sensible manner). I have seen sites where they just delete all the negative threads and ban the thread starter. Habbox doesnt do that and you can tell because this thread and many other threads like this have never been deleted nor hidden unless become totally unacceptable which in a few circumstances have done so.

Well I don't know what sites your specifically referring to, but I can assure you if that was the case with Habbox I personally, and I am sure along with many others, wouldn't come on Habbox at all. Therefore, you guys would ultimately lose your customers of VIP etc. and Habbox would in the long run not be able to run at all.

I think management realises that, and therefore does allow people to post their opinions, as at the end of the day if you didn't - the users would leave to a forum that would and you guys would lose out on custom, and profit.