Proposal (regarding Forum Games)

[Nixt]

Okay well, this is kind of in relation to this thread (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=368145) posted not long ago. MAD has said that he will assure the Moderation team will begin to crack down on so called "spam games", however I think that regardless of the efforts of the Moderation team the Forum Games section will still be used and abused as a place to get your post count up.
I understand in the past it has been suggested that the Forum Games section has post count disabled however from what I have gathered it may cause the Forum problems and obviously we would also be left with a very large amount of people who have lost a considerable amount of posts.
For this reason I think that the Forum Games Forum should be closed for posting and then "hidden" (I believe both are possible) and then a new Forum Games forum, where post count does not rise, be created. This way you would solve the problem of people spamming to get a higher post count and you wouldn't be left with a huge amount of annoyed people.

I have added a poll to see how many people agree. When you choose an option on the poll, please post and justify your reason, thanks!

[Liam!]

gd idea garion +Repz.

Yes, I agree.

[:Jamie]

I agree with this.

[jackass]

OI!

I made a thread exactly like all this forum games spam and I got yelled at and not listened to. So how come when others do it its all a 'good idea'? :rolleyes:

[Nixt]

OI!

I made a thread exactly like all this forum games spam and I got yelled at and not listened to. So how come when others do it its all a 'good idea'? :rolleyes:

Where is this thread?

[jackass]

Where is this thread?

Thats what I mean, most people don't even know about it. :(

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=330923

[Nick-]

If its possible and within the Forum's capabilities, I agree, despite the fact that I'll lose a few posts. ;)

[Wizzdom]

If its possible and within the Forum's capabilities, I agree, despite the fact that I'll lose a few posts. ;)

It would be hidden, therefore posts will not be lost?

[Charlie]

Thats what I mean, most people don't even know about it. :(

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=330923

Your thread says that we should just get rid if it completely and what not, and seems more like a rant, whereas this is a idea to hide it and then make a new one, which is different to yours.

I agree with Garion though, it's a good idea.

[English]

I agree. I created a thread like this a few months back stating that post count should be disabled in there because it is abused. Not only do people post stupidly in there but the amount of lame and stupid games that are suggested is ridiculous. I fully agree.

[Actor]

Good idea !!

[Energizer]

I agree tbh.

[Seren]

I only disagree because I don't really care about post counts.

[dirrty]

yh 100% agree. ppl just post in forum games to increase their post count up and its stupid tbh.

[today]

Yes, i agree.

[dannyisnotamazing]

Although I used to post in there quite a lot to bump my post I agree. {:

[---MAD---]

The problem is it might be another spam forum. I am not sure what the big deal is if people want to increase their post count, its their choice really :P.

[:Jamie]

The problem is it might be another spam forum. I am not sure what the big deal is if people want to increase their post count, its their choice really :P.

Yeh theres a thing called forum rules and forum moderators. Poll says it all. :)

[Jamie!]

sounds like an alright idea.

easiest way would be just to start modding it properly though.

[today]

The problem is it might be another spam forum. I am not sure what the big deal is if people want to increase their post count, its their choice really :P.

As we dont want spam filled forums tbh. And some people when they get large post counts fink they r ard!

[JoeyK.]

The problem is it might be another spam forum. I am not sure what the big deal is if people want to increase their post count, its their choice really :P.

The big deal is that it's against the very first of the "Forum Threads" rules, isn't it?


C1. Don't post for the sake of your post count - It's always nice to have a high post count, it may seem as though people will respect you more with a higher number beside your name, but it doesn't really mean anything on these forums. We respect each of you whether you have 1 post or 1000.


However, I don't agree with the proposal... Instead, I believe that the spam games should just be closed, or instead just moved to the spam forum. I believe that people should be able to raise their post counts playing some of the games, or at least the ones that require actual creativity / thought. I just think that the forum needs to have a bit more moderation to keep the spam games out.

If the proposal were to go through, I believe it would discourage many of the games that are actually creative / require time, as there would be less incentive to continue them.

[Nixt]

Thats what I mean, most people don't even know about it. :(

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=330923

My thread has offered a solution to the problem and has addressed issues that may arise whereas your thread was simply saying it should be closed, period.


The problem is it might be another spam forum. I am not sure what the big deal is if people want to increase their post count, its their choice really :P.

It already is another spam Forum. By changing it in the way I have suggested it will be a Forum just for games and anything off topic can be punished appropriately. The idea of Forum Games is to have fun and mess around a bit, not to get your post count up. JoeyK.'s post also addresses the second part of your post about post counts also; it's against the rules.

So far I think the poll says a lot anyway :).

[Catzsy]

Agreed, Garion in fact more inappropriate posts are made there than anywhere else in the forum in my opinion under the 'guise' of games. Starting afresh would make it easier for it to be moderated well.

[Putal]

I don't agree, I enjoy taking part in some of the games in there.

[Catzsy]

I don't agree, I enjoy taking part in some of the games in there.

Well I am shocked that you agree with the FM, again.:D Anyway, nobody is saying that there won't be games but if you were a moderator you would realise that the section as it is is quite hard to police. I have reported quite a few posts from there in the last few days, some of which were pretty inappropriate.

[Putal]

Well I am shocked that you agree with the FM, again.:D Anyway, nobody is saying that there won't be games but if you were a moderator you would realise that the section as it is is quite hard to police. I have reported quite a few posts from there in the last few days, some of which were pretty inappropriate.

There is no need to attack people like that, it’s not very nice. Everyone is entitle to their own opinion and my opinion is that the Forum Games section gets used allot and, I personally enjoy taking part in some of the games within the section.

Maybe if post count was removed from that forum like someone suggested above or remake the forum as a child forum in the spam forum and hide the original games forum.

[Nixt]

I don't agree, I enjoy taking part in some of the games in there.

You won't have any problem then! My proposal suggests that the Forum Games section should be closed and hidden from view and then a new one created - so you can still take part in, and enjoy, "some of the games in there" as they can be recreated etc :). I haven't said totally close it down, I said hide it and create a new one where post count doesn't increase ;).

[today]

Catzsy didnt "attack" you. LOLLL.

Jesus.

I'm for it.

[Nixt]

I don't agree, I enjoy taking part in some of the games in there.

Putal... can I just ask if you've ever had an account before your current account?

[Kieeran]

i didn't agree at first, but i read your post & it sounds reasonable so yeah. I agree'd

[Putal]

Putal... can I just ask if you've ever had an account before your current account?

Yeah sure and the answer is yes, I didn’t want people to know but seeing as two other people have PMd me asking if I did...

I had an account in early 2004 and used to work in HxHD when DJ-3000 owned it, I resigned and went with him to Positive-Help with most of the other HxHD staff.

[Nixt]

Yeah sure and the answer is yes, I didn’t want people to know but seeing as two other people have PMd me asking if I did...

I had an account in early 2004 and used to work in HxHD when DJ-3000 owned it, I resigned and went with him to Positive-Help with most of the other HxHD staff.

Okay I just wondered, because it seems like you have very few (if any) posts in Forum Games and so I wondered why you said you enjoyed posting in there so much. Perhaps it was on your previous accounts :).

[Concentric2]

There is no need to attack people like that, it’s not very nice. Everyone is entitle to their own opinion and my opinion is that the Forum Games section gets used allot and, I personally enjoy taking part in some of the games within the section.
Dude she didn't attack you - as you say, just as you're entitled to an opinon (which she didn't dispute), others are entitled to a different one and to argue their point.

[Neversoft]

I disagree. There is no need for a new one, all you need to do is remove the pointless games.

[le harry]

I agree with Chris. Just be stricter on the games, some of them are actually fun to part-take in. Get rid of the ones which are like "Lets count to a million".

:rolleyes:

[Catzsy]

Wel yes I agree with you Chis, in theory thats great, but the state of the games forum means that to actually go through to find the rule breaking is an enormous task so what Garion says makes sense. Start again with it moderated properly. Gets my vote. =]

[le harry]

You can tell by the thread title if it's spam or not.

It would take 10 minutes top to go through the first 2 / 3 pages and move the spam threads to where they belong.

[Catzsy]

You can tell by the thread title if it's spam or not.

It would take 10 minutes top to go through the first 2 / 3 pages and move the spam threads to where they belong.


The problem being is that a lot of the rule breaking is in the so called legitimate threads and believe me it is an onerous task. =]

[le harry]

The problem being is that a lot of the rule breaking is in the so called legitimate threads and believe me it is an onerous task. =]

Let me consult my dictionary :8

Onerous - 1.burdensome, oppressive, or troublesome; causing hardship: onerous duties.

Gotcha - okay. Well I guess so, Garion's idea is okay, you know more about the topic then me so I wont debate it with you.

[---MAD---]

If the proposal were to go through, I believe it would discourage many of the games that are actually creative / require time, as there would be less incentive to continue them.
Yeah, I agree with that.

I disagree. There is no need for a new one, all you need to do is remove the pointless games.
Yes I think I will spend some time myself with the smods and mods, cleaning some of the new threads.

The problem being is that a lot of the rule breaking is in the so called legitimate threads and believe me it is an onerous task. =]
We will try and fix it so hopefully this doesn't need to happen :).

[Neversoft]

Wel yes I agree with you Chis, in theory thats great, but the state of the games forum means that to actually go through to find the rule breaking is an enormous task so what Garion says makes sense. Start again with it moderated properly. Gets my vote. =]

I'd be happy to delete all of the pointless threads, I've got loads of spare time. :P Deleting the pointless threads would be much better than starting new, because people would complain about their post count and the fact that their thread/game is no longer there. :P

[today]

I'd be happy to delete all of the pointless threads, I've got loads of spare time. :P Deleting the pointless threads would be much better than starting new, because people would complain about their post count and the fact that their thread/game is no longer there. :P
then they need to grow up ^^

[Shawnstra]

I agree ;)

[Neversoft]

then they need to grow up ^^

Why is that?

[today]

Moaning their threads gone and post counts have gone down, big whoop...

[le harry]

Moaning their threads gone and post counts have gone down, big whoop...

It's serious stuff! :O

[DiscoPat]

Good Idea i guess

[Bef]

i thought post count was disabled in the games forum?

[N!ck]

Why not make it like the debates forum, where there is a stickied thread for "posting ideas for new games" and then only a smod or whoever can make a new thread on games that aren't pointless. The games in there atm that are pointless should be removed, although around 400 of my posts lie within forum games somewhere i'm not too bothered.

[le harry]

Wow N!CK, that's actually a great idea!

[Putal]

Why not make it like the debates forum, where there is a stickied thread for "posting ideas for new games" and then only a smod or whoever can make a new thread on games that aren't pointless. The games in there atm that are pointless should be removed, although around 400 of my posts lie within forum games somewhere i'm not too bothered.

That's a fantadtic idea.

[Catzsy]

Why not make it like the debates forum, where there is a stickied thread for "posting ideas for new games" and then only a smod or whoever can make a new thread on games that aren't pointless. The games in there atm that are pointless should be removed, although around 400 of my posts lie within forum games somewhere i'm not too bothered.

Yes that is a great idea as long as Smods have authority rather then it being higher in management as with normal stickied threads as it could lead to delays. Very innovative and sensible post +rep.

[:Jamie]

Nice idea N!ck +rep

[le harry]

N!ck I'll rep you when I can :), it really is a good idea. Have like 3 games running a month and a "Games that have ended" like the debates forum I'm guessing?

[Nixt]

I'd be happy to delete all of the pointless threads, I've got loads of spare time. :P Deleting the pointless threads would be much better than starting new, because people would complain about their post count and the fact that their thread/game is no longer there. :P

If you read my post properly, Mr. Neversoft, people wouldn't lose out on post count. The Forum would be closed for posting and then hidden and therefore anyone who has posted in any game still in that Forum will keep the post count :).


Why not make it like the debates forum, where there is a stickied thread for "posting ideas for new games" and then only a smod or whoever can make a new thread on games that aren't pointless. The games in there atm that are pointless should be removed, although around 400 of my posts lie within forum games somewhere i'm not too bothered.

That's a very good idea :) +Rep. Edit: Need to spread, sorry I will when I can xD remind me xox

[jackass]

Nick, what a great idea! :)

But don't get rid of them at a certain date, keep them going. Just normal members cannot post new ones, but they can post in them. And yeah about the stickied thread where you can post ideas for new ones, so thats like making a new thread, but going through tests, like whether its spam or not. :8

[Tristan]

OI!

I made a thread exactly like all this forum games spam and I got yelled at and not listened to. So how come when others do it its all a 'good idea'? :rolleyes:

You made a silly statement that it was annoying you. For it not to annoy you - don't look at it. That's why you got flamed.

Also like before said yours was just a rant and this thread is constructive.

[today]

Nick has brains! :]

Seems best idea so far. :]

[---MAD---]

Why not make it like the debates forum, where there is a stickied thread for "posting ideas for new games" and then only a smod or whoever can make a new thread on games that aren't pointless. The games in there atm that are pointless should be removed, although around 400 of my posts lie within forum games somewhere i'm not too bothered.
Very good idea, I agree.

[Alkaz]

I Dont think they should be closed.
Just let me moderate them.

[dannyisnotamazing]

I don't agree with the threads
"Lets count to x".

There pointless and hardly a game. :|

[joshuar]

I think that Nick's idea was the best so far :) +rep to him.

[Ashhizzle]

nahh give the mods mroe wrk, even tho i said yes :)

[Elkaa]

sounds like an alright idea.

easiest way would be just to start modding it properly though.

Since the introduction, or reminder of the rule, I have moved several threads from the Forum Games section into the Spam section. I check there regularly to see if anything needs moving. Whilst some games are, questionable, I believe most of the threads in the section, that are active at the moment, to be above board.

I do agree on swapping to another forum, though.

[nvrspk4]

Personally I think we should just turn post counts off and deal with the people who kick up a fuss. Post counts shouldn't mean that much.

However given these two options, I'd definitely say yes. I'd also say, people who have posted games in the last two weeks to one month have the ability to request their thread moved to the new forum, so PCs may be lost, but its at the request of the thread starter. Thus, games that have been going on a while that depend on the length etc (for example, one word stories) can continue.

My 2 cents ;)

[Plank]

i think n!cks idea is a good idea. make it so normal members can't make threads, but post in threads, so they have to put in a request for a new game to be created or something.

[Plank]

soz to double post.. i couldn't edit, but is anything going to be done? cos a lot of threads like these just end up going onto the next page and being forgot about.

[today]

soz to double post.. i couldn't edit, but is anything going to be done? cos a lot of threads like these just end up going onto the next page and being forgot about.
thats true, +rep.

[Youheard]

I agree but then I doubt very mainy people would use the forum.

[today]

then stuff them?

I would still.