I hate people who..

[Breakfloor]

ok, first of all.. what music do you like.

second. i hate people who are like "OMGZ RAP IS **** YOU CANT CALL IT MUSIC ZOMG"

can you call randomly strumming a guitar music? no you cant.

i like rock rap and RNB but when someone gets defensive over a type of music or starts attacking another is just sad.

[summer]

your point about rap is fair enough, but then you can't go on to mention the thing about strumming a guitar, because now you're just as bad!

[RedStratocas]

I agree. music is all perception, really. things about people and music that get on my nerves:

- when people say music is their life [shut up, no it's not]
- when people argue about what genre something is
- when people claim old music is better than new music

[Breakfloor]

music isnt my life but i would honestly say life would be seriously dull without it.

[bo$$]

I agree.
Im actually sick of people saying how rap is stupid and how its the downfall of the youth of today or whatnot.. and like "ohhh rap is nothing about I slapped this b----- or Im got this gun blah blah" because really its not :l
If they would actually listen to some of the rap today.. then maybe they'd see its not true

[RedStratocas]

music isnt my life but i would honestly say life would be seriously dull without it.

i dont think so. i think of it as another form of entertainment. another way to please one of our senses. dont get me wrong, i love music, but i dont think there would be a hole in my life if it never existed. for all we know, we could be missing some sort of sense that could be pleased in an artistic form, but we dont really realize it.

[alexxxxx]

haha!

i respect rap music, but don't like it that much myself. only eminem haha.

[Dan2nd]

I like a mixture of everything ;)

[today]

i listen to music pretty much nearly all the time (Y) minus like 4 hours a day (not inc sleeping ect.)

[Willz]

In my view, I think Rap's repetetive.

I like Music but only rock, metal and so on.
I hate my brothers music though, (Japanese, German etc.) he's weird.

[kerychuk]

I listen to just about everything except opra and scremo

[Hecktix]

everyman to his own.

if you like rap, cool.
I like rock.

Put up with it.

Doesnt change my opinion of you at all; nor should it change your opinion of me.

[Nightrose]

i listen to music pretty much nearly all the time (Y) minus like 4 hours a day (not inc sleeping ect.)

Yes same here
:)

[Lutrist]

Umm, I like rock music. Maybe on the odd occasion I would like an R&B song. Not often though.

[Breakfloor]

yeh. but these goths and ****s that are like ZOMG I LIKE METAL BECAUZE RAP IS **** LOL

its just dumb. like 60% of my friends like rock and metal. my best friend likes rock but none of them say **** about other music. so it just winds me up.

[Antallica]

yeh. but these goths and ****s that are like ZOMG I LIKE METAL BECAUZE RAP IS **** LOL

its just dumb. like 60% of my friends like rock and metal. my best friend likes rock but none of them say **** about other music. so it just winds me up.

Well, stop getting on pumped up about it? ignore it and say its the music i like, not you, now shush.

[hadouken!]

I agree. music is all perception, really. things about people and music that get on my nerves:

- when people say music is their life [shut up, no it's not]
- when people argue about what genre something is
- when people claim old music is better than new music

1. Agreed, it's some emo myspace thing that fills space.
2. Yes, only iTunes can decide. Exept if emo is saying their punk. then i get defensive.
3. I think if you get a good song in the past, it will always remain good. Like in 2050 people will be like BLOC PARTY I WUV Ux

[samsaBEAR]

I agree. music is all perception, really. things about people and music that get on my nerves:

- when people say music is their life [shut up, no it's not]
- when people argue about what genre something is
- when people claim old music is better than new music
saame
i hate it when people are like 'music is my life' but dont play an instrument, or get involved with anything musical

[YoManGo!]

Further, music theorists prove that true music must contain a horn section.

thus proving none of it is music and you all fail at life.

[YoManGo!]

1. Agreed, it's some emo myspace thing that fills space.
2. Yes, only iTunes can decide. Exept if emo is saying their punk. then i get defensive.
3. I think if you get a good song in the past, it will always remain good. Like in 2050 people will be like BLOC PARTY I WUV Ux

emo is punk.
it was started by a bunch of people from the DC hardcore scene. ian mackaye of minor threat (whose complete discography album has been voted the best punk album of all time) was in several emo bands. just alot of people have a distorted view that a bunch of eyeliner pop-punk bands are emo.

[Browney]

Notorious B.I.G. is a legend.

[beth]

i love music elitism. i think it's fantastic.

[YoManGo!]

without elitism we'd all be like little robots liking the same thing. or at least pretending too. bethie's right, elitism is fantastic.

[hadouken!]

saame
i hate it when people are like 'music is my life' but dont play an instrument, or get involved with anything musical

YES! i think people who are truly devoted to music wouldnt brag about the fact, but others might do for them. noticed every emo has those EXACT words on their myspace:

'people say music is their life, they dont have a clue'


emo is punk.
it was started by a bunch of people from the DC hardcore scene. ian mackaye of minor threat (whose complete discography album has been voted the best punk album of all time) was in several emo bands. just alot of people have a distorted view that a bunch of eyeliner pop-punk bands are emo.

never say that to me again, i'm serious. i do not care, as i do not believe the fact that the 2 most diverse sections that hate each other, were once united.

maybe 'pop-punk' and 'emo' were once together because they ARE both emo. pop punk is just a stupid way to avoid being a 'crowd follower' or just some emo band. they say they are punk because everyone loves my genre of music. i am correct.

if i were even related to such of an emo, i would clock myself right now. i'm not getting into this argument again, because ive had it too many times with people thinking they understand my completely correct view on emo music.

emo / pop-'punk' / scene are all the same. shoddy music with no real reason or rhyme. it is my opinion, and im not listening to yours.

i will not talk to you about this further, because i'm sick up to here with it.

[manga21]

ok, first of all.. what music do you like.

second. i hate people who are like "OMGZ RAP IS **** YOU CANT CALL IT MUSIC ZOMG"

can you call randomly strumming a guitar music? no you cant.

i like rock rap and RNB but when someone gets defensive over a type of music or starts attacking another is just sad.

Btw its a lot more then just randomly strumming a guitar.... Rap ... hmm there is some ok rap music.. But its just not as good when you put it next to rock music I am sorry to say...

Btw you go lost :D

[-mark74-]

- when people argue about what genre something is


I agree. You can argue if somebody calls avril lavigne metal but i find it annoying when people are arguing whether its punk influenced symphonic neoclassical rock or punk influenced symphonic neoclassical metal.

[hadouken!]

I agree. You can argue if somebody calls avril lavigne metal but i find it annoying when people are arguing whether its punk influenced symphonic neoclassical rock or punk influenced symphonic neoclassical metal.

Yeah, same goes to emo, if anyone says emo is punk, i'll get mad.

[Neil]

The only thing I hate about people and music is how people can listen to foreign music, I'll go round my mates and he has some Japanese heavy metal band playing, I'm like.."Get the english version" and he's like "no it sounds stupid in english" I'm just like ":S...But you can't understand what he's saying..?" it's really annoying..I can't see how you can like it if you don't know what they're talking about, may have a nice tune but you still listening to a guy screaming stuff in Japanese

[samsaBEAR]

i love music elitism. i think it's fantastic.
may i ask what music elitism is?
i think i know what it is, its just hard to put into words

[YoManGo!]

YES! i think people who are truly devoted to music wouldnt brag about the fact, but others might do for them. noticed every emo has those EXACT words on their myspace:

'people say music is their life, they dont have a clue'



never say that to me again, i'm serious. i do not care, as i do not believe the fact that the 2 most diverse sections that hate each other, were once united.

maybe 'pop-punk' and 'emo' were once together because they ARE both emo. pop punk is just a stupid way to avoid being a 'crowd follower' or just some emo band. they say they are punk because everyone loves my genre of music. i am correct.

if i were even related to such of an emo, i would clock myself right now. i'm not getting into this argument again, because ive had it too many times with people thinking they understand my completely correct view on emo music.

emo / pop-'punk' / scene are all the same. shoddy music with no real reason or rhyme. it is my opinion, and im not listening to yours.

i will not talk to you about this further, because i'm sick up to here with it.

you won't reply but i don't think i've ever heard anything so stupid as what you just said.
pop punk is a valid genre, and completely seperate from scene :s. you cannot tell me that the ramones, the buzzcocks, descendents, methadones, the queers and the lillingtons are all scene. they are simply melodic (pop) punk bands.

your view is actually completely incorrect, seen as pop-punk has been around since around 1975 and scene has only really existed since 2002. but whatevs, ignorance is bliss.

[FlyingJesus]

YES! i think people who are truly devoted to music wouldnt brag about the fact, but others might do for them. noticed every emo has those EXACT words on their myspace:

'people say music is their life, they dont have a clue'



never say that to me again, i'm serious. i do not care, as i do not believe the fact that the 2 most diverse sections that hate each other, were once united.

maybe 'pop-punk' and 'emo' were once together because they ARE both emo. pop punk is just a stupid way to avoid being a 'crowd follower' or just some emo band. they say they are punk because everyone loves my genre of music. i am correct.

if i were even related to such of an emo, i would clock myself right now. i'm not getting into this argument again, because ive had it too many times with people thinking they understand my completely correct view on emo music.

emo / pop-'punk' / scene are all the same. shoddy music with no real reason or rhyme. it is my opinion, and im not listening to yours.

i will not talk to you about this further, because i'm sick up to here with it.

So you then are one of these people who get defensive over music... well it's all good if you're actually right, but you're not. I like a lot of punk music and not so much emo (although some is good), and I think basically you're just launching an attack on the emo fashion rather than the music. If you've ever heard any emo music you can tell that it roots in punk.

Your "completely correct" view on emo music is a load of crap, sorry. And if as you said I just don't get it, do explain.

[English]

saame
i hate it when people are like 'music is my life' but dont play an instrument, or get involved with anything musical
Same here, I was actually gonna make a thread on this. It shows how stupid they are.

emo is punk.
it was started by a bunch of people from the DC hardcore scene. ian mackaye of minor threat (whose complete discography album has been voted the best punk album of all time) was in several emo bands. just alot of people have a distorted view that a bunch of eyeliner pop-punk bands are emo.
Minor Threat pretty much did start it. Then influencing bands like SOIA, Bad Brains & Black Flag. Bad Brains what homophobes haha.

[YoManGo!]

haha ennit. it's kinda funny that the whole hardcore thing was meant to be based on equality and unity and yet arguably one of the most popular bands it spawned were blatent homophobes.

[English]

haha ennit. it's kinda funny that the whole hardcore thing was meant to be based on equality and unity and yet arguably one of the most popular bands it spawned were blatent homophobes.
Yeah it's such a contradiction. But Bad Brains stayed true to their rasta roots and thus sung about it. I heard somewhere they got into a fight with another famous band from the scene(forgot their name) cos 1 or 2 of the members were gay haha. Minor Thread discography is not bad atall!

[YoManGo!]

tbh i don't care about their views on issues like that. as long as the music's good i'll buy it :)
MT discog is like my 2nd favorite album ever :D

[jackass]

ok, first of all.. what music do you like.

second. i hate people who are like "OMGZ RAP IS **** YOU CANT CALL IT MUSIC ZOMG"

can you call randomly strumming a guitar music? no you cant.

i like rock rap and RNB but when someone gets defensive over a type of music or starts attacking another is just sad.

But rap music isn't music really, it sucks also.

And stumming on a guitar while singing is music, its the original music.

[YoManGo!]

no, the original music is slapping an animal skin. don't act on history's behalf.
and what part of rap isn't music? rap is a singing style - it can go over any kind of musical backing, whether it be computer generated or done on instruments, as demonstrated by the roots.

[alexxxxx]

Pop-Punk is not emo at all. Whoever says FOB, MCR, P@tD, TBS are emo bands are either trying to stereotype people too much or are trying to be crowd followers.

I have to go on last fm to find out that some idiots class Yellowcard as emo. I don't think any yellowcard song really has any emo lyrics, or sounds emo.

Emo is a style of music, but MCR is not emo, and IS punk-pop, like blink 182. Some emo bands are like 'first to last' and halifax and even those are slightly leaning towards the pop-punk style. Well, in my opinion.

[YoManGo!]

good pop-punk is positive and uplifting 95% of the time anyway.
hurrah for latterman, teenage bottlerocket and new found glory!

[alexxxxx]

good pop-punk is positive and uplifting 95% of the time anyway.
hurrah for latterman, teenage bottlerocket and new found glory!

exactly haha.

[hadouken!]

So you then are one of these people who get defensive over music... well it's all good if you're actually right, but you're not. I like a lot of punk music and not so much emo (although some is good), and I think basically you're just launching an attack on the emo fashion rather than the music. If you've ever heard any emo music you can tell that it roots in punk.

Your "completely correct" view on emo music is a load of crap, sorry. And if as you said I just don't get it, do explain.

No, emo stole everything punk. That's why it's all so relatively similar in some ways. I hate the fasion and music so dont accuse me of being a stereotype or whatever, punk started what 40 years ago, when did emo start? 2?

So do not tell me that emo were there first.

[FlyingJesus]

But rap music isn't music really, it sucks also.

And stumming on a guitar while singing is music, its the original music.

Wait, what? How is rap not music? If you're gonna spout something about how it's "talentless", post a video of you spitting out a Tung Twista song to perfection and I'll perhaps rethink my point.

Also as Spud said, guitars are nothing like the "original music", and neither is singing. In fact, guitars only came into being in like the 15th century or something.

[samsaBEAR]

;3657321']Pop-Punk is not emo at all. Whoever says FOB, MCR, P@tD, TBS are emo bands are either trying to stereotype people too much or are trying to be crowd followers.

I have to go on last fm to find out that some idiots class Yellowcard as emo. I don't think any yellowcard song really has any emo lyrics, or sounds emo.

Emo is a style of music, but MCR is not emo, and IS punk-pop, like blink 182. Some emo bands are like 'first to last' and halifax and even those are slightly leaning towards the pop-punk style. Well, in my opinion.
i wouldnt say MCR are pop-punk, but no way are they emo
i suppose they could fit into the pop-emo, coz even tho they arent emo, they are popular, and every new band seems to to be labelled emo, so its spawned the pop-emo.

[English]

But rap music isn't music really, it sucks also.

And stumming on a guitar while singing is music, its the original music.
Fool. Ignorant fool.

Edited by Youheard (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude.

[jackass]

Fool. Ignorant fool.

Its my own opinion, so don't call me a fool - over music, especially.

[English]

Its my own opinion, so don't call me a fool - over music, especially.
You can't have an opinion which says rap isn't music. Not only is it stupid but it's ignorant. Once again proves the fact you are a stupid little child.

[FlyingJesus]

Its my own opinion, so don't call me a fool - over music, especially.

It's not opinion, you stated two would-be facts: that rap isn't really music, and that guitars with singing is the original music. Both are wrong, therefore you are indeed a fool.

[English]

;3657321']
Emo is a style of music, but MCR is not emo, and IS punk-pop, like blink 182. Some emo bands are like 'first to last' and halifax and even those are slightly leaning towards the pop-punk style. Well, in my opinion.
I wouldn't call MCR pop punk. I'd probably call them pop-post-hardcore if anything.

[jackass]

You can't have an opinion which says rap isn't music. Not only is it stupid but it's ignorant. Once again proves the fact you are a stupid little child.

Getting stressed in another thread over music, AGAIN?

Yes, I was supposed to put 'in my opinion' at the end of the sentence. And how the hell does that make me a 'Stupid little child' firstly, i'm not stupid. Secondly, its music. And last of all, how am I a child? I would like you too explain that too me please.


It's not opinion, you stated two would-be facts: that rap isn't really music, and that guitars with singing is the original music. Both are wrong, therefore you are indeed a fool.

Aha, no i'm not the fool.

[CJW93]

I like hiphop rap rnb grime indie

[summer]

But rap music isn't music really, it sucks also.

And stumming on a guitar while singing is music, its the original music.
everything you said was false.

[English]

Getting stressed in another thread over music, AGAIN?

Yes, I was supposed to put 'in my opinion' at the end of the sentence. And how the hell does that make me a 'Stupid little child' firstly, i'm not stupid. Secondly, its music. And last of all, how am I a child? I would like you too explain that too me please.

Stressed? Nope I just like ripping it out of you because you are so stupid. You are a stupid little child seeing as you can't even use punctuation properly. You are also stupid for the comment you made which everyone else agrees was a stupid comment by you. However you will keep using your rubbish arguments to attempt to back yourself up but you just fail.

Edited by Youheard (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude.

[alexxxxx]

I wouldn't call MCR pop punk. I'd probably call them pop-post-hardcore if anything.

hmm, maybe we could give MCR a slight exception, because their older stuff is less pop-punk. Yeah, you're probably right on this one.

[jackass]

Stressed? Nope I just like ripping it out of you because you are so stupid. You are a stupid little child seeing as you can't even use punctuation properly. You are also stupid for the comment you made which everyone else agrees was a stupid comment by you. However you will keep using your rubbish arguments to attempt to back yourself up but you just fail.

Aha, no.

Beleive it or not, I have a life outside this computer, which i'm probaly just as, or by the looks of your posts, even more intelligent, so don't bother calling me stupid - it just doesn't work. Also, are you so ignorant you don't pay attention to what most posts say? As I said previously, how am I a 'stupid little child', you have failed to explain that yet. I'm not stupid, nor a child.

And yes, the comment was pretty stupid, because I didn't put the text 'in my opinion', which I should of done and which I have already said. Stop being ignorant.

Oh, and aha - I don't fail.

[Jõnathan]

This thread may be closed soon due to excessive arguments...

[hadouken!]

i wouldnt say MCR are pop-punk, but no way are they emo
i suppose they could fit into the pop-emo, coz even tho they arent emo, they are popular, and every new band seems to to be labelled emo, so its spawned the pop-emo.

MCR are known more than not by the kiddies as emo. You all listen to them, so you realise they aren't emo. But if you say name 4 emo bands what would it be?

Panic
MCR
BFMV
BMTH

I know some are screamo etc, and i understand dont worry, but others dont. Look outside the box and see that MCR are stereotyped as emo, which means they must have a couple of emo qualities if they are so widely recognised as emo.

I don't want to argue with you guys, but my mind isn't changing about emo, I seriously hate everything about it, I know a lot of emos are nice people, but I just can't like anything that is keeping that group going.

[YoManGo!]

MCR are known more than not by the kiddies as emo. You all listen to them, so you realise they aren't emo. But if you say name 4 emo bands what would it be?

Panic
MCR
BFMV
BMTH

I know some are screamo etc, and i understand dont worry, but others dont. Look outside the box and see that MCR are stereotyped as emo, which means they must have a couple of emo qualities if they are so widely recognised as emo.

I don't want to argue with you guys, but my mind isn't changing about emo, I seriously hate everything about it, I know a lot of emos are nice people, but I just can't like anything that is keeping that group going.

lol, none of them are screamo.
and no, seriously - listen to rites of spring. they invented emo, and sound nothing like mcr.

[Ichigo]

The hell're you on?


Though the band disapproved of the term, they are credited with being one of the first, and arguably the definitive "emo" band.

Rites of Spring didn't 'invent' it. They were just one of the first to be recognised to be doing something different. The ability to give an emotional performance on stage was not a rare one, so I'm sure a lot of other bands had the same act going for them. It'd be very naive to be giving Rites of Spring all the credit.

[FlyingJesus]

Aha, no i'm not the fool.

You clearly are, as I showed in my previous post. Also, saying that you're more intelligent than Craig.. just no. Please, do explain how rap is so rubbish. Even if it is just opinion (as you keep saying, without giving an actual answer) I'm curious to know.

[Virgin Mary]

How isn't rap music? It's rhythmic delivery of what is basically a poem.

[YoManGo!]

The hell're you on?



Rites of Spring didn't 'invent' it. They were just one of the first to be recognised to be doing something different. The ability to give an emotional performance on stage was not a rare one, so I'm sure a lot of other bands had the same act going for them. It'd be very naive to be giving Rites of Spring all the credit.

"Emo" itself isn't short for "emotional," and Rites of Spring were the first band to play hardcore punk that style, so yuh, they did invent it. Although I suppose it would be wiser to say that Dischord Records invented it through its hard work pressing the albums, but if you're looking for a band to credit you can't miss out RoS.

[Ichigo]

I'm aware of the beginnings of emo, thanks.

The idea that one band out of millions did something first is ridiculous, though. They may've been the frst to get recognised for such a new style but there's no way they started off the entire thing.

Especially since the emo band Gray Matter were formed one year before Rites of Spring. Gray Matter were also part of the handful pioneering the emo scene in Washington DC.

[YoManGo!]

As do I, thanks. It's like saying that argueably punk itself actually started in the 50s when garage bands got a leeetle more aggressive. Gray Matter were more of a forerunner of a term that was blueprinted by Rites of Spring.

[English]

Aha, no.

Beleive it or not, I have a life outside this computer, which i'm probaly just as, or by the looks of your posts, even more intelligent, so don't bother calling me stupid - it just doesn't work. Also, are you so ignorant you don't pay attention to what most posts say? As I said previously, how am I a 'stupid little child', you have failed to explain that yet. I'm not stupid, nor a child.

And yes, the comment was pretty stupid, because I didn't put the text 'in my opinion', which I should of done and which I have already said. Stop being ignorant.

Oh, and aha - I don't fail.
You can't even spell believe correctly so how am I meant to believe you are more intelligent than me? Are you going to get an A* in any of your GCSEs? Probably not, though you'll make it up, and I did. You are a stupid little child because I enjoy calling you that name because it seems to wind you up. Even if you did put 'in my opinion' after it then it'd still be a false and stupid statement to say. Everyone is saying how wrong you are but you can't admit it. People like you make me laugh. Enjoy Habbo;)

[Ichigo]

As do I, thanks. It's like saying that argueably punk itself actually started in the 50s when garage bands got a leeetle more aggressive. Gray Matter were more of a forerunner of a term that was blueprinted by Rites of Spring.

It's understandable to say that they made the genre famous, leading to more bands pitching in. I can agree with that, but to say they invented it is another thing altogether.

[hadouken!]

How isn't rap music? It's rhythmic delivery of what is basically a poem.

PERFECT. You do not need a melody to have music do you. A lot of Salsa dance music is just percussion, but it's still music.

[samsaBEAR]

thats what i always think rap/hip-hop is basically, just poetry with a beat

[hadouken!]

yeah, and its so technologically superb. its original, fresh and exiting

[beth]

Its my own opinion, so don't call me a fool - over music, especially.
why not "over music" are you like the wikipedia of music or something?
sorry, i will never question your judgement again. ESPECIALLY over music.

ahaha, "i pity the fool."

[shiver]

But rap music isn't music really, it sucks also.

And stumming on a guitar while singing is music, its the original music.
what a moronic post

[YoManGo!]

It's understandable to say that they made the genre famous, leading to more bands pitching in. I can agree with that, but to say they invented it is another thing altogether.

Hmm, well in my eyes and from my own understanding I'd say it's credible to state that they invented the genre - coining the term and sparking everything in place. The outlets were there for the genre but before RoS noone had really chanelled them into what the genre became later with Revolution Summer and the whole DC movement.